Implications of Abolishing Fossil Fuels

[justoffal]

The future is coming for all you crankshaft cranks and piston promoters.
Progress can only be held back for so long.

How did you get to work today? OH...that's right you're a lefty....you don't work. Sorry.....

JO

 

[justoffal]

They’re total retards that know nothing about energy and generation. Solar and wind simply cannot generate significant power on demand. If it ain’t windy, or it’s dark out, you get nothing. Then these morons say they can just build batteries for those times. Of course the amount of batteries would be insane, plus batteries are made of chemicals and by processes that aren’t green.

They also keep repeating this fantasy that investing in “research” is going to magically produce some new green energy technology that will give us abundant energy. It’s nothing but a money pit, there is no easy way to produce such energy. The only real hope we have is nuclear fusion but that is extremely expensive and probably a hundred years away until it would be feasible.

Please list any specialized education you have to make you able to say all that. Where did you gain the knowledge you seem to think you have?

Because I work in the industry.

Most people who work in the industry are not qualified to make the pronouncements you just did. Just because you worked in a refinery doesn't make you an engineer with special knowledge that makes you credible when you say there will never be any viable sources of energy other than what we use now. If you are just repeating what Alex Jones told you, own up to it.

No moron, I work with experts and I also study it on my own. I’ve never listened to an Alex Jones show so have no idea WTF you are babbling about. So, sit tight unemployed in your home with your toilet paper rolls and let the real men continue to provide essential services.

Then you shouldn't have a problem listing your expertise. Exactly how do you study on your own other than listening to right wing radio or reading the latest rant on facebook?
You're right. I am unemployed. I worked really hard to be able to retire, and I'm finally able to enjoy what i earned. I don't think you can tell me much about being a real man that I didn't already know when you were riding your bicycle.

Not much of a socialist are ya? What right to you have to be retired when there are Mexican immigrants who need food, housing and medical? Get your duplicitous ass back to work you lazy muthaFxxker!

 

[Weatherman2020]

Mar162020
Implications of Abolishing Fossil Fuels
Radicalized Joe Biden isn’t the only one. Many Democrats want to dramatically limit if not completely abolish the fossil fuels that make things go. Do they understand what they are attempting to impose? CFACT’s Paul Driessen has written an excellent piece on the implications of ridding the world of fossil fuels.

Wind and solar — inefficient, expensive, and unreliable techniques — would not merely have to generate as much electricity as fossil fuels do now. They would have to generate three times as much, because the plan calls for eliminating fossil fuels even for transportation, heating water, et cetera. Lefties want to get rid of nuclear and hydroelectric too.

The number of wind turbines and solar panels required would be surreal. There is no room for them in the cities where leftist policies originate. Rural communities will not want to be buried in them. Imposing them by force will further destabilize the country politically.

Acquiring the raw materials to create many thousands of turbines and millions of solar panels won’t be easy, especially since lefties don’t approve of mining.

Then there is the efficiency factor. Driessen observes that “it takes 79 solar workers to produce the same amount of electricity as one coal worker or two natural gas workers.” The drain on the economy would be massive. This illustration gives only a hint:

At the 8¢ per kWh in 2019, Virginia’s Inova Fairfax Women’s and Children’s Hospital pays about $1.6 million annually for electricity (based on typical hospital costs per square foot). At California’s (15¢ per kWh), or Germany’s business rate (22¢), Inova would have to shell out an extra $1.4-2.8 million a year for electricity. That would mean employee layoffs, higher medical bills, reduced patient care, more deaths.

That reflects the higher price of electricity in California and Germany due to ecomoonbattery. With no fossil fuel use at all, energy costs would go far higher.

Green lunacy is already causing real hardship in Europe:

In 2017, German families and businesses were pummeled by 172,000 localized blackouts. Last year, some 350,000 German families had their electricity cut off because they couldn’t pay their power bills. In Britain, millions of elderly people have to choose between heating and eating decent food; many spend their days in libraries to keep warm; and more than 3,000 die every year because they cannot heat their homes properly, making them more likely to succumb to respiratory, heart, flu or other diseases.

Across Europe, 11 million jobs are “at risk” because of an EU “green deal” that many say is suicidal.

Meanwhile, China and India merrily construct ever more power plants fueled by coal and gas as they prepare to overtake the West economically. If CO2 were a problem, it would not be solved if Europe and the USA emitted none of it at all.

Nonetheless, progressives are committed to pursuing the green agenda, not despite but because of the authoritarianism that will be required to impose it.

Click through; the whole piece is worth reading.

On a tip from R F.

All links highlighted....progressive , leftarded morons and especially cultist of the church watermelon an made global warming retards should absolutely voluntarily lead by example ...swear off all fossil fuels ,shit made with fossil fuels ...

Nobody is advocating the complete change to new energy sources until they are developed to the point where they are more efficient. and sustainable. Quit whining about such childish fears.

Liar. California just ordered all cars to be EV and new homes to not use natural gas, while at the same time shutting off the power to millions.

 

[BULLDOG]

Mar162020
Implications of Abolishing Fossil Fuels
Radicalized Joe Biden isn’t the only one. Many Democrats want to dramatically limit if not completely abolish the fossil fuels that make things go. Do they understand what they are attempting to impose? CFACT’s Paul Driessen has written an excellent piece on the implications of ridding the world of fossil fuels.

Wind and solar — inefficient, expensive, and unreliable techniques — would not merely have to generate as much electricity as fossil fuels do now. They would have to generate three times as much, because the plan calls for eliminating fossil fuels even for transportation, heating water, et cetera. Lefties want to get rid of nuclear and hydroelectric too.

The number of wind turbines and solar panels required would be surreal. There is no room for them in the cities where leftist policies originate. Rural communities will not want to be buried in them. Imposing them by force will further destabilize the country politically.

Acquiring the raw materials to create many thousands of turbines and millions of solar panels won’t be easy, especially since lefties don’t approve of mining.

Then there is the efficiency factor. Driessen observes that “it takes 79 solar workers to produce the same amount of electricity as one coal worker or two natural gas workers.” The drain on the economy would be massive. This illustration gives only a hint:

At the 8¢ per kWh in 2019, Virginia’s Inova Fairfax Women’s and Children’s Hospital pays about $1.6 million annually for electricity (based on typical hospital costs per square foot). At California’s (15¢ per kWh), or Germany’s business rate (22¢), Inova would have to shell out an extra $1.4-2.8 million a year for electricity. That would mean employee layoffs, higher medical bills, reduced patient care, more deaths.

That reflects the higher price of electricity in California and Germany due to ecomoonbattery. With no fossil fuel use at all, energy costs would go far higher.

Green lunacy is already causing real hardship in Europe:

In 2017, German families and businesses were pummeled by 172,000 localized blackouts. Last year, some 350,000 German families had their electricity cut off because they couldn’t pay their power bills. In Britain, millions of elderly people have to choose between heating and eating decent food; many spend their days in libraries to keep warm; and more than 3,000 die every year because they cannot heat their homes properly, making them more likely to succumb to respiratory, heart, flu or other diseases.

Across Europe, 11 million jobs are “at risk” because of an EU “green deal” that many say is suicidal.

Meanwhile, China and India merrily construct ever more power plants fueled by coal and gas as they prepare to overtake the West economically. If CO2 were a problem, it would not be solved if Europe and the USA emitted none of it at all.

Nonetheless, progressives are committed to pursuing the green agenda, not despite but because of the authoritarianism that will be required to impose it.

Click through; the whole piece is worth reading.

On a tip from R F.

All links highlighted....progressive , leftarded morons and especially cultist of the church watermelon an made global warming retards should absolutely voluntarily lead by example ...swear off all fossil fuels ,shit made with fossil fuels ...

Nobody is advocating the complete change to new energy sources until they are developed to the point where they are more efficient. and sustainable. Quit whining about such childish fears.

Liar. California just ordered all cars to be EV and new homes to not use natural gas, while at the same time shutting off the power to millions.

Let me get this straight. You think, as of right now, all cars in California have to be Electric? How does that work? Can I use my car to visit California from out of state? I think you're confused.

 

[JoeBlow]

How is anyone going to fill their e-car with electricity without fossil fuels? Can't be done.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

How is anyone going to fill their e-car with electricity without fossil fuels? Can't be done.

Slowly.........

 

[BULLDOG]

How is anyone going to fill their e-car with electricity without fossil fuels? Can't be done.

Yes, it can be done, but for now, fossil fuels will probably supply much of the electricity used to charge an electric vehicle. As more renewable sources come online, that amount will be reduced. You don't think we should wait until we are able to completely rely on renewable sources for all our energy needs before we start utilizing electric cars do you? That would be just dumb.

 

[JoeBlow]

How is anyone going to fill their e-car with electricity without fossil fuels? Can't be done.

Yes, it can be done, but for now, fossil fuels will probably supply much of the electricity used to charge an electric vehicle. As more renewable sources come online, that amount will be reduced. You don't think we should wait until we are able to completely rely on renewable sources for all our energy needs before we start utilizing electric cars do you? That would be just dumb.

State’s Grid Operator Asks Electric Customers Across California to Conserve Power Today as Heat Wave Increases Energy Demand Across the West

"Don’t charge electric vehicles during this critical period."

It's only going to get worse.

 

[elektra]

Implications of Abolishing Fossil Fuels

Wind and solar — inefficient, expensive, and unreliable techniques — would not merely have to generate as much electricity as fossil fuels do now. They would have to generate three times as much, because the plan calls for eliminating fossil fuels even for transportation, heating water, et cetera. Lefties want to get rid of nuclear and hydroelectric too.

The number of wind turbines and solar panels required would be surreal. There is no room for them in the cities where leftist policies originate. Rural communities will not want to be buried in them. Imposing them by force will further destabilize the country politically.

Abolishing Fossil Fuels would cause the immediate shutdown of all Wind Turbines. Without Oil to lubricate, or fossil fuels to provide power during no wind, we will not be able to operate Wind Turbines at all.

Solar power. Without fossil fuels we will not be able to manufacture and replacement solar panels. As they fail on an industrial level, we will continually produce less power until we can not survive.

Solar CSP, will cease to operate.

Without fossil fuels, wind and solar die quickly.

 

[BULLDOG]

Abolishing Fossil Fuels would cause the immediate shutdown of all Wind Turbines. Without Oil to lubricate, or fossil fuels to provide power during no wind, we will not be able to operate Wind Turbines at all.

Solar power. Without fossil fuels we will not be able to manufacture and replacement solar panels. As they fail on an industrial level, we will continually produce less power until we can not survive.

Solar CSP, will cease to operate.

Without fossil fuels, wind and solar die quickly.

You think fossil fuel will be completely eliminated before we have a suitable replacements available. Only a total idiot would think that might happen.

 

[elektra]

You think fossil fuel will be completely eliminated before we have a suitable replacements available. Only a total idiot would think that might happen.

I did not state that nor imply that. Only an idiot would read my statement and think otherwise.

You will not eliminate the use of fossil fuels nor will you come up with a replacement. Your dream that someday, fossil fuels will not be used, is pure fantasy.

 

[BULLDOG]

I did not state that nor imply that. Only an idiot would read my statement and think otherwise.

You will not eliminate the use of fossil fuels nor will you come up with a replacement. Your dream that someday, fossil fuels will not be used, is pure fantasy.

Industrial leaders seem to disagree with you.

 

[elektra]

Industrial leaders seem to disagree with you.

Bullshit

 

[asaratis]

Bullshit

The notion that wind and solar will ever make a significant dent in the need for fossil fuels is total bullshit. Not only that, but a sustained attempt to do so it will pollute the earth like no other negative result of our existence.

 

[elektra]

The notion that wind and solar will ever make a significant dent in the need for fossil fuels is total bullshit. Not only that, but a sustained attempt to do so it will pollute the earth like no other

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wind and solar increase the demand for fossil fuels

 

[Stann]

Mar162020
Implications of Abolishing Fossil Fuels
Radicalized Joe Biden isn’t the only one. Many Democrats want to dramatically limit if not completely abolish the fossil fuels that make things go. Do they understand what they are attempting to impose? CFACT’s Paul Driessen has written an excellent piece on the implications of ridding the world of fossil fuels.

Wind and solar — inefficient, expensive, and unreliable techniques — would not merely have to generate as much electricity as fossil fuels do now. They would have to generate three times as much, because the plan calls for eliminating fossil fuels even for transportation, heating water, et cetera. Lefties want to get rid of nuclear and hydroelectric too.

The number of wind turbines and solar panels required would be surreal. There is no room for them in the cities where leftist policies originate. Rural communities will not want to be buried in them. Imposing them by force will further destabilize the country politically.

Acquiring the raw materials to create many thousands of turbines and millions of solar panels won’t be easy, especially since lefties don’t approve of mining.

Then there is the efficiency factor. Driessen observes that “it takes 79 solar workers to produce the same amount of electricity as one coal worker or two natural gas workers.” The drain on the economy would be massive. This illustration gives only a hint:

At the 8¢ per kWh in 2019, Virginia’s Inova Fairfax Women’s and Children’s Hospital pays about $1.6 million annually for electricity (based on typical hospital costs per square foot). At California’s (15¢ per kWh), or Germany’s business rate (22¢), Inova would have to shell out an extra $1.4-2.8 million a year for electricity. That would mean employee layoffs, higher medical bills, reduced patient care, more deaths.

That reflects the higher price of electricity in California and Germany due to ecomoonbattery. With no fossil fuel use at all, energy costs would go far higher.

Green lunacy is already causing real hardship in Europe:

In 2017, German families and businesses were pummeled by 172,000 localized blackouts. Last year, some 350,000 German families had their electricity cut off because they couldn’t pay their power bills. In Britain, millions of elderly people have to choose between heating and eating decent food; many spend their days in libraries to keep warm; and more than 3,000 die every year because they cannot heat their homes properly, making them more likely to succumb to respiratory, heart, flu or other diseases.

Across Europe, 11 million jobs are “at risk” because of an EU “green deal” that many say is suicidal.

Meanwhile, China and India merrily construct ever more power plants fueled by coal and gas as they prepare to overtake the West economically. If CO2 were a problem, it would not be solved if Europe and the USA emitted none of it at all.

Nonetheless, progressives are committed to pursuing the green agenda, not despite but because of the authoritarianism that will be required to impose it.

Click through; the whole piece is worth reading.

On a tip from R F.

All links highlighted....progressive , leftarded morons and especially cultist of the church watermelon an made global warming retards should absolutely voluntarily lead by example ...swear off all fossil fuels ,shit made with fossil fuels ...

Fossil fuels will never be abolished, they have their place, which thank God is coming less and less in society. The transition is gradual and will continue until we find the right balance and are no longer adversely affecting the planet. Future generations require that we do not use up all the fossil fuels. They should be kept in reserve.

 

[asaratis]

Fossil fuels will never be abolished, they have their place, which thank God is coming less and less in society. The transition is gradual and will continue until we find the right balance and are no longer adversely affecting the planet. Future generations require that we do not use up all the fossil fuels. They should be kept in reserve.

Good luck getting China and India to go along with that.

 

[Colin norris]

Mar162020
Implications of Abolishing Fossil Fuels
Radicalized Joe Biden isn’t the only one. Many Democrats want to dramatically limit if not completely abolish the fossil fuels that make things go. Do they understand what they are attempting to impose? CFACT’s Paul Driessen has written an excellent piece on the implications of ridding the world of fossil fuels.

Wind and solar — inefficient, expensive, and unreliable techniques — would not merely have to generate as much electricity as fossil fuels do now. They would have to generate three times as much, because the plan calls for eliminating fossil fuels even for transportation, heating water, et cetera. Lefties want to get rid of nuclear and hydroelectric too.

The number of wind turbines and solar panels required would be surreal. There is no room for them in the cities where leftist policies originate. Rural communities will not want to be buried in them. Imposing them by force will further destabilize the country politically.

Acquiring the raw materials to create many thousands of turbines and millions of solar panels won’t be easy, especially since lefties don’t approve of mining.

Then there is the efficiency factor. Driessen observes that “it takes 79 solar workers to produce the same amount of electricity as one coal worker or two natural gas workers.” The drain on the economy would be massive. This illustration gives only a hint:

At the 8¢ per kWh in 2019, Virginia’s Inova Fairfax Women’s and Children’s Hospital pays about $1.6 million annually for electricity (based on typical hospital costs per square foot). At California’s (15¢ per kWh), or Germany’s business rate (22¢), Inova would have to shell out an extra $1.4-2.8 million a year for electricity. That would mean employee layoffs, higher medical bills, reduced patient care, more deaths.

That reflects the higher price of electricity in California and Germany due to ecomoonbattery. With no fossil fuel use at all, energy costs would go far higher.

Green lunacy is already causing real hardship in Europe:

In 2017, German families and businesses were pummeled by 172,000 localized blackouts. Last year, some 350,000 German families had their electricity cut off because they couldn’t pay their power bills. In Britain, millions of elderly people have to choose between heating and eating decent food; many spend their days in libraries to keep warm; and more than 3,000 die every year because they cannot heat their homes properly, making them more likely to succumb to respiratory, heart, flu or other diseases.

Across Europe, 11 million jobs are “at risk” because of an EU “green deal” that many say is suicidal.

Meanwhile, China and India merrily construct ever more power plants fueled by coal and gas as they prepare to overtake the West economically. If CO2 were a problem, it would not be solved if Europe and the USA emitted none of it at all.

Nonetheless, progressives are committed to pursuing the green agenda, not despite but because of the authoritarianism that will be required to impose it.

Click through; the whole piece is worth reading.

On a tip from R F.

All links highlighted....progressive , leftarded morons and especially cultist of the church watermelon an made global warming retards should absolutely voluntarily lead by example ...swear off all fossil fuels ,shit made with fossil fuels ...

Well plagairised.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Nobody is advocating the complete change to new energy sources until they are developed to the point where they are more efficient. and sustainable. Quit whining about such childish fears.

California Governor (not for much longer) Gavin Newsom has issued an executive order to the effect that all automobiles sold and registered in this state after 2035 must be electric.

I do not believe that anyone with better than a room-temperature IQ sincerely believes that the technology will be ready by then, for electric cars to take over from internal combustion engine cars, nor that our electrical grid will be anywhere close to adequate by then to support such an increase in electric vehicles.

Fortunately, we're about to throw this dumbass out of office, and replace him with someone who hopefully will not be nearly so much of a dumbass.

 

[BULLDOG]

California Governor (not for much longer) Gavin Newsom has issued an executive order to the effect that all automobiles sold and registered in this state after 2035 must be electric.

I do not believe that anyone with better than a room-temperature IQ sincerely believes that the technology will be ready by then, for electric cars to take over from internal combustion engine cars, nor that our electrical grid will be anywhere close to adequate by then to support such an increase in electric vehicles.

Fortunately, we're about to throw this dumbass out of office, and replace him with someone who hopefully will not be nearly so much of a dumbass.

You are certainly free to believe anything you want.