Impeachment Inquiry: No Lawyer Or "Due Process" for Trump?

It's like how they passed health care, in dark rooms with even darker deals under the table as they had to bribe members of their own party to vote for it.
And followed procedures and laws to do so. The naive Obama did not figure the republican babymen would spit in his face, when he offered up to them their own ideas. So he said, fuck you, I won, we will pass it anyway.
 
If they didn’t have anything to hide they would allow all witnesses.

If Trump didn't have anything to hide he wouldn't be blocking so many witnesses and the release of so many documents.

Oh right- you think Hunter Biden knows about Trump's actions in Ukraine- but Rudolf Giuliani doesn't.
 
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It was just explained to me that for next weeks Fake Hearing (trial) in the House, as they interview Never Trumpers and others, I get NO LAWYER & NO DUE PROCESS. It is a Pelosi, Schiff, Scam against the Republican Party and me. This Witch Hunt should not be allowed to proceed!

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Donald Trump and his allies have been objecting to the rules of the House Impeachment process from Day 1.
I think it's time to focus their ire towards the authors of those rules, if that makes them feel better. They should pound their anger out in a major press conference, with the list of rules on a large board that they object to.
The problem is, they would have to direct there complaints at Republican legislation that set the rules.
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Trump might label this an attack on “due process,” but his fight isn’t with Speaker Nancy Pelosi or Schiff, it’s with the Republican-led investigative committees who instituted this precedent during their investigations of President Bill Clinton’s administration in 1997 and 1998. That practice was extended in the 112th, 113th, 114th and 115th congresses.
For all Trump’s griping about lawyers, the House impeachment inquiry isn’t a trial at all. But the reason he won’t have a lawyer representing his interests in the hearings is because Republicans made a point to continue the procedure during the Benghazi investigation. During that investigation, Republican committee members approved rules specifically stipulating that “counsel … for agencies under investigation may not attend.”
We’ve seen this pattern of Trump and Republicans objecting to rules they created consistently throughout the impeachment investigation.
In recent weeks, House Republicans have extended a lot of energy and rhetoric railing against “closed-door depositions.” Yet, according to a report released by congressional investigative experts at Co-Equal, a group intended to help Congress remain a check on the executive branch, House Republicans conducted depositions of more than 140 administration officials during their impeachment inquiry of Clinton. While the Trump administration has tried to obstruct the current impeachment investigation by blocking witnesses from appearing for depositions, during the Benghazi inquiry alone, House Republicans took testimony from more than 60 career employees who served under President Barack Obama.

Opinion | Trump has the GOP to blame for the impeachment rules he hates so much
One would think, that Trump and his allies, would brush up the rules, how they actually apply to Trump and basically learning about the entire process of Presidential Impeachment.
Maybe, they should all read the Constitution about impeachment and accept the fact it is 100% Constitutionally a legal process.

I think a lot of the points you posted got lost-

Trump might label this an attack on “due process,” but his fight isn’t with Speaker Nancy Pelosi or Schiff, it’s with the Republican-led investigative committees who instituted this precedent during their investigations of President Bill Clinton’s administration in 1997 and 1998. That practice was extended in the 112th, 113th, 114th and 115th congresses.
For all Trump’s griping about lawyers, the House impeachment inquiry isn’t a trial at all. But the reason he won’t have a lawyer representing his interests in the hearings is because Republicans made a point to continue the procedure during the Benghazi investigation. During that investigation, Republican committee members approved rules specifically stipulating that “counsel … for agencies under investigation may not attend.”


Essentially the GOP complaint is that the Democrats are following the GOP instituted rules.
I can see why Trump finds that so unfair to himself.
 
Yeah, let’s talk transparency!

Yep, that's the point. The man who ordered his entire administration preemptively, before anyone could ask a question, to take the Fifth, is whining about "transparency".

Also, since when are the would-be defendant and his legal representatives allowed to trail the police while they are investigating the crime, or interfere with witnesses before charges have been filed?

Ludicrous. Also of note, our fine Trumpletons swallow. Again. And again. And again... Amazing.
YOU are sooooo wrong-Trump exposed the transcript-why does not schiff let the whistle blower, the start of all this to be questioned-is it collusion by Schiff and Eric C? LOOK at those facts, whiner.

Sorry little snowflake. The facts are not your friend.

The only reason you know about Trump's secret call is because of the whistleblower.
Trump had labeled his call 'secret' and had it stored in a secret vault and never intended for you to ever know about his secret attempt to pressure the Ukraine to publicly announce an investigation into his political rival.

Trump only released the summary of the call after they realized they were not going to be able to keep the whistleblower report secret as they tried to do.

But I am all for having the whistleblower testify- even though it would be illegal to reveal his or her identity- right after Trump testifies under oath.

Trump has nothing to hide- right?
 
Why is everyone treating the investigation like it is a trial? The Trial is in the Senate, later. If Articles of Impeachment are even voted on.
What's taking them so long anyway? Let's get this show on the road.

Everyone isn't. Silly goose.

I've tried to clarify several times elsewere on the board that the constitution divides impeachment and trial between the House and the Senate. House impeachment is an indictment, not a trial. The special treatment that Trump is demanding happens in the Senate trial. Not the House. No defendant participates in an indictment the way that President Trump is suggesting.

Really, it just demonstrates how little our elected representativs actually understand the document they swear to uphold.

The Republicans know it- they are just lying to protect their Orange Messiah.

All of them are so terrified that Trump will smear them like he does to everyone who dares show the slightest wavering of undying support for him.

It is very, very cult like.
 
Trump had labeled his call 'secret' and had it stored in a secret vault and never intended for you to ever know about his secret attempt to pressure the Ukraine to publicly announce an investigation into his political rival.
Which,of course, was his lawyers' idea, as they knew he had committed a high crime.
 
Trump had labeled his call 'secret' and had it stored in a secret vault and never intended for you to ever know about his secret attempt to pressure the Ukraine to publicly announce an investigation into his political rival.
Which,of course, was his lawyers' idea, as they knew he had committed a high crime.

I find it amusing that the gullible Trumper claim Trump is transparent because he so graciously released the summary of his conversation.

The summary that Trump went to great lengths to keep secret. His administration fought to keep the whistleblowers report secret and had the summary securely stored away- even officials like Bill Taylor- the acting Ambassador to Ukraine hadn't been given access to it.

Each person who has testified before Congress Trump has tried to prevent testifying. Dozens of others are not testifying because of Trump's 'transparency'. Thousands of documents are being concealed- because of Trump's 'transparency'.

The Republicans whine about the Democrats preventing them from calling their witnesses- but the person who is preventing the real witnesses from testifying is Donald Trump.
 
LOL the faggots are now 'Posting Last!!!' against each other in a dead thread, seeing who can post the last most increasingly stupid inanities. lol lol lol
 
Yeah, let’s talk transparency!

Yep, that's the point. The man who ordered his entire administration preemptively, before anyone could ask a question, to take the Fifth, is whining about "transparency".

Also, since when are the would-be defendant and his legal representatives allowed to trail the police while they are investigating the crime, or interfere with witnesses before charges have been filed?

Ludicrous. Also of note, our fine Trumpletons swallow. Again. And again. And again... Amazing.
YOU are sooooo wrong-Trump exposed the transcript-why does not schiff let the whistle blower, the start of all this to be questioned-is it collusion by Schiff and Eric C? LOOK at those facts, whiner.

Sorry little snowflake. The facts are not your friend.

The only reason you know about Trump's secret call is because of the whistleblower.
Trump had labeled his call 'secret' and had it stored in a secret vault and never intended for you to ever know about his secret attempt to pressure the Ukraine to publicly announce an investigation into his political rival.

Trump only released the summary of the call after they realized they were not going to be able to keep the whistleblower report secret as they tried to do.

But I am all for having the whistleblower testify- even though it would be illegal to reveal his or her identity- right after Trump testifies under oath.

Trump has nothing to hide- right?
First, the whistleblower did not even hear the call and now won't be allowed to testify-some threat.
Next, the call was put in the vault because of frequent leaks they were having-not to hide anything.
Next, it is not ILLEGAL to reveal his identity, only to penalize him job wise-boy do you have bad info!
And why have the innocent man testify before the accuser says anything to testify??? Is that fair, bonehead??
Your lack of knowledge is disgusting-YOU ARE BANNED!
 
Yeah, let’s talk transparency!

Yep, that's the point. The man who ordered his entire administration preemptively, before anyone could ask a question, to take the Fifth, is whining about "transparency".

Also, since when are the would-be defendant and his legal representatives allowed to trail the police while they are investigating the crime, or interfere with witnesses before charges have been filed?

Ludicrous. Also of note, our fine Trumpletons swallow. Again. And again. And again... Amazing.
YOU are sooooo wrong-Trump exposed the transcript-why does not schiff let the whistle blower, the start of all this to be questioned-is it collusion by Schiff and Eric C? LOOK at those facts, whiner.

Sorry little snowflake. The facts are not your friend.

The only reason you know about Trump's secret call is because of the whistleblower.
Trump had labeled his call 'secret' and had it stored in a secret vault and never intended for you to ever know about his secret attempt to pressure the Ukraine to publicly announce an investigation into his political rival.

Trump only released the summary of the call after they realized they were not going to be able to keep the whistleblower report secret as they tried to do.

But I am all for having the whistleblower testify- even though it would be illegal to reveal his or her identity- right after Trump testifies under oath.

Trump has nothing to hide- right?
First, the whistleblower did not even hear the call and now won't be allowed to testify-some threat.
Next, the call was put in the vault because of frequent leaks they were having-not to hide anything.
Next, it is not ILLEGAL to reveal his identity, only to penalize him job wise-boy do you have bad info!
And why have the innocent man testify before the accuser says anything to testify??? Is that fair, bonehead??
Your lack of knowledge is disgusting-YOU ARE BANNED!

First of all- are you denying that the only reason why Trump took the summary out of the top secret vault, and removed the secret status from the document is because the Whistleblower report was going to reveal his secret call? If it wasn't for the whistleblower you would never have heard about Trump's secret attempt to get a foreign government to investigate his political rival.

Second- It is illegal to penalize him- and your Orange Messiah has already threatened him- calling him a traitor and a spy- and reminding us what we used to do to spies.

Third- I don't know of any innocent man, but certainly Trump can chose to testify to 'clear his name'- but instead Trump not only has not chosen to testify- Trump has blocked the testimony of every witness he can- and blocked the release of every document he can.

Fourth- I find it amusing that you think you can 'ban' me.

If I am banned- how come I am still posting here showing what an idiot your Orange Messiah is- and how he desperately is trying to prevent Americans from knowing what he did?
 
If they didn’t have anything to hide they would allow all witnesses.
Trump is welcome to come and testify.
Testify to what? His transcript is already out there and been verified by others on the call. All we’ve heard is they don’t like his policy whiners.

You are absolutely right- Trump has nothing to fear from testifying- why do you think he not only is not offering to clear this all up- but is actively trying to prevent anyone from testifying who could testify that Trump did nothing wrong?
 
If they didn’t have anything to hide they would allow all witnesses.
Trump is welcome to come and testify.
Schiff won't let him bring a lawyer-or ask questions

Oh I think that Schiff would have no problem with Trump having a lawyer there if it meant a chance to get Trump under oath.

Does anyone really argue that Trump would not end up committing perjury if he is ever put under oath and required to answer questions?

The man is pathologically incapable of not lying.
 
LOL the faggots are now 'Posting Last!!!' against each other in a dead thread, seeing who can post the last most increasingly stupid inanities. lol lol lol

Meanwhile the desperate Trump Tweenkies are doing what they always do when they feel their Orange Messiah is threatened- just respond with insults and lies.
 

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