Invisibleflash
Diamond Member
Ignorant kids...humans can't live sustainably unless there is a 95% die off.
Do you know what sustainable living is kids? Back in the day the people cut down trees to make houses. They burned trees for heat and to cook. They hunted animals for food. They didn't make much impact upon nature.
In 2019 what would happen if we cut down the trees for our houses, burnt the trees to cook and for heat and hunted animals for all our food?
Our society has been built on fossil fuels. Before we had crude oil we used whale oil. Whale oil eventually started to run out and then crude oil was discovered. Without fossil fuels our population could never have grown as it did. So if fossil fuels are suddenly ripped out, the population that was artificially built on fossil fuels must decline.
Wind and sun are not always on demand. Sometimes in the Rustbelt the sun does not come out for a week. The theory on Peak Oil summed up what will happen to humans once the fossil fuels are taken away...a massive die-off.
Sure, fossil fuels will run down on their own. But that is unavoidable. We are sifting the crude out of sand and cracking / fracking rocks to find gas...so the writing is on the proverbial wall.
Petrochemicals make up a big use of crude oil. Asphalt on the road, roofing, lubricating oils, motor oil, tires, plastics, synthetic, clothes, farming, dyes, pharmaceuticals, detergents, chemicals such as sulfuric acid, guitar strings, wood varnish, hand cream. CD's, DVD's, crayons, pillows, packing material, toilet seats, cell phones, heart valves...the list is almost endless...all crude oil based. Our fertilizer is made as a byproduct of natural gas.
They tried to replace crude based printing ink with soy ink. Result...the ink goes rancid and the printing has a rancid smell to it. Are we going to make soy tires...soy roofs...soy roads?
I don't think anyone believes a dirtier earth is better. Sure we can 'try' to clean things up. But the delusional thinking the kids have can only be accomplished by massive die off.
Do you know what sustainable living is kids? Back in the day the people cut down trees to make houses. They burned trees for heat and to cook. They hunted animals for food. They didn't make much impact upon nature.
In 2019 what would happen if we cut down the trees for our houses, burnt the trees to cook and for heat and hunted animals for all our food?
Our society has been built on fossil fuels. Before we had crude oil we used whale oil. Whale oil eventually started to run out and then crude oil was discovered. Without fossil fuels our population could never have grown as it did. So if fossil fuels are suddenly ripped out, the population that was artificially built on fossil fuels must decline.
Wind and sun are not always on demand. Sometimes in the Rustbelt the sun does not come out for a week. The theory on Peak Oil summed up what will happen to humans once the fossil fuels are taken away...a massive die-off.
Sure, fossil fuels will run down on their own. But that is unavoidable. We are sifting the crude out of sand and cracking / fracking rocks to find gas...so the writing is on the proverbial wall.
Petrochemicals make up a big use of crude oil. Asphalt on the road, roofing, lubricating oils, motor oil, tires, plastics, synthetic, clothes, farming, dyes, pharmaceuticals, detergents, chemicals such as sulfuric acid, guitar strings, wood varnish, hand cream. CD's, DVD's, crayons, pillows, packing material, toilet seats, cell phones, heart valves...the list is almost endless...all crude oil based. Our fertilizer is made as a byproduct of natural gas.
They tried to replace crude based printing ink with soy ink. Result...the ink goes rancid and the printing has a rancid smell to it. Are we going to make soy tires...soy roofs...soy roads?
I don't think anyone believes a dirtier earth is better. Sure we can 'try' to clean things up. But the delusional thinking the kids have can only be accomplished by massive die off.
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