If you oppose the Confederate flag you oppose the American flag too

President Lincoln was too kind to the south he should have let General Sherman continue even after the south was whipped and utterly defeated

"I would make this war as severe as possible, and show no symptoms of tiring till the South begs for mercy."

"My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom."


William Tecumseh Sherman

A true tyrant and war criminal.
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And the leaders of the confederacy's purpose was to deny freedom to slaves and to break up the union to preserve slavery.
The Union fought for the freedom of slaves and the preservation of the Union.
Who was the tyrants and who were the criminals of history.

The poor confederate soldiers were the pawns of idiots like you
 
President Lincoln was too kind to the south he should have let General Sherman continue even after the south was whipped and utterly defeated

"I would make this war as severe as possible, and show no symptoms of tiring till the South begs for mercy."

"My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom."


William Tecumseh Sherman

A true tyrant and war criminal.
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And the leaders of the confederacy's purpose was to deny freedom to slaves and to break up the union to preserve slavery.
The Union fought for the freedom of slaves and the preservation of the Union.
Who was the tyrants and who were the criminals of history.

The poor confederate soldiers were the pawns of idiots like you

Remind us again when the war started and how many years after that the tyrant Lincoln issued the emancipation proclamation which by the way was a clear violation of the 4th Amendment. Also the tyrants Lincoln and Sherman purposely targeted civilian populations which was against the laws of war even then.
 
And the leaders of the confederacy's purpose was to deny freedom to slaves and to break up the union to preserve slavery.
The Union fought for the freedom of slaves and the preservation of the Union.
Who was the tyrants and who were the criminals of history.

The poor confederate soldiers were the pawns of idiots like you

How can they deny something that hadn't been offered? Again, you seem to be under some misconception that the United States had freed the slaves and the South was rebelling against that... Wasn't the case. The US and the SCOTUS both upheld the institution of slavery, it had not been outlawed, it was not illegal to own slaves, and slaves were legitimately owned property according to YOUR government and Congress.

The states were fighting on the basis of governmental philosophy. Slavery was part of that, but it was not the overarching issue. And it wasn't because Southerners were racist against blacks and Northerners weren't... that had nothing to do with anything. Following the Civil War, over the next 40 years, blacks were slaughtered by the hundreds and thousands across the North, where they had gone to find work. What, did all the 'racist southerners' move to Milwaukee?

But now... the Modern Liberal has convinced themselves of this bizarre alternate history! They've made Lincoln into Martin Luther King Jr. and the Civil War is akin to Civil Rights. The North was on the side of the slaves and freedom for all men.. .racial equality! And the abhorrent South was full of racists and bigots who wanted to keep the black man down. You quite simply don't know what the fuck you're talking about and you display an enormous ignorance of history.
 
No, the traitors had created a state of war regardless of the fact that the so-call confederacy was never a legal or legitimate entity.

Well no one was ever tried or convicted of treason....



There were plenty of Radical Republicans who wanted to, and they had a solid argument. The traitorous 'confederate' scum benefited from the magnanimity of Lincoln.

Apparently they DIDN'T have a solid argument, nor did they have a majority in Congress... Soooooo..... ? :dunno:
 
The confederacy was NOT a legally or legitimately separate, independent nation. Never, loser wannabe.

Then Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation was a completely unconstitutional act .....


No it was not.

Of course it was. Where does the Constitution give the president authority to liberate anyone of their property?



Article II, Section 2

WRONG! (Unless the CSA is an enemy of state we are at war with)

Article II, Section 2

The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.

He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein other- wise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments. The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the End of their next Session.

There's the text, bucko... It gives him power as Commander in Chief... power to make treaties and nominate/appoint Ambassadors, Judges, etc... fill vacancies.... not seeing anything about confiscating property owned by citizens there.

You want to give her another go, or are you willing to admit that the president has no such authority under the Constitution?
 
Let's face it. Southerners fought against Northern aggression and for their freedom. They were patriotic Americans sick of seeing their country going the wrong way. That's why people typically fly the Stars and Bars.
But we got over that and healed and the descendents of those Confederates went on to serve the American army and win our wars.
But those who want to censor, who want to denigrate the struggle of our Southern ancestors, who want to demonize others for holding opinions contrary to theirs are no better than jihhadis and communists, who want to ban anything contrary to their religion. They are the hater dupes of the public world.

^Holy lack of knowledge Batman.

The Rebel Flag stood for STATE POWER over COUNTRY POWER. Basically, state over federal. I know a lot of you don't know the term state in the bills actually meant state.

State Power over Federal was for a reason. Dictators that liked to use Communism or Socialism as their style ran Federally.

Once America saw the divide of small brains justifying slavery, we knew something should be done, (CIVIL WAR). Even after the Civil War, we did not change the law. States SHOULD hold power over Federal.

Federal>State>Citizens is the learning zone here.

But after Citizens United, the very same entities own all politicians. It doesn't matter if you are State or Federal.

The People Matter. Not the Corporate driven politicians.
 
The Rebel Flag stood for STATE POWER over COUNTRY POWER.

No it didn't, idiot.

The flag that is currently under attack was one of several battle flags used by various confederate armies. It literally stood for "this is OUR side, as opposed to THEIR side!"

Now... I don't know if you've ever read the 10th Amendment or even care about the 10th Amendment, but it IS part of our Constitution. The division of power goes like this... The Feds have enumerated (listed) powers in Article I Sec. 8... all remaining power is left to the states and people respectively... that means, states foremost, then the people in general. We didn't repeal the 10th Amendment. So if the 10th remains intact and Article 1 Section 8 remains intact... there is no debate over division of power... thus your claim falls short of credibility.
 
Let's face it. Southerners fought against Northern aggression and for their freedom. They were patriotic Americans sick of seeing their country going the wrong way. That's why people typically fly the Stars and Bars.
But we got over that and healed and the descendents of those Confederates went on to serve the American army and win our wars.
But those who want to censor, who want to denigrate the struggle of our Southern ancestors, who want to demonize others for holding opinions contrary to theirs are no better than jihhadis and communists, who want to ban anything contrary to their religion. They are the hater dupes of the public world.
You are right my brother.
 
Once America saw the divide of small brains justifying slavery, we knew something should be done, (CIVIL WAR).

BULLSHIT! Now you're rewriting history to make it sound like the North unleashed the Civil War on the South to defeat slavery!

You are totally insane! Or REALLY REALLY stupid!

The only people you can blame for justifying slavery is the SCOTUS, Congress and presidents of the United States of America. They condoned and upheld slavery for 85 years! They ruled slaves were property! The CSA didn't even exist!
 
Liberal sheep are easily led by the Ministry of Truth
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Once America saw the divide of small brains justifying slavery, we knew something should be done, (CIVIL WAR).

BULLSHIT! Now you're rewriting history to make it sound like the North unleashed the Civil War on the South to defeat slavery!

You are totally insane! Or REALLY REALLY stupid!

The only people you can blame for justifying slavery is the SCOTUS, Congress and presidents of the United States of America. They condoned and upheld slavery for 85 years! They ruled slaves were property! The CSA didn't even exist!
 
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BULLSHIT! Now you're rewriting history to make it sound like the North unleashed the Civil War on the South to defeat slavery! "

Cant fix those Fox News brains who haven't spent an hour of their life not working and learning history.
 
Once America saw the divide of small brains justifying slavery, we knew something should be done, (CIVIL WAR).

BULLSHIT! Now you're rewriting history to make it sound like the North unleashed the Civil War on the South to defeat slavery!

You are totally insane! Or REALLY REALLY stupid!

The only people you can blame for justifying slavery is the SCOTUS, Congress and presidents of the United States of America. They condoned and upheld slavery for 85 years! They ruled slaves were property! The CSA didn't even exist!

I'll let you read about history on your own time. You catching up seems to be either false facts from bias parties or blatant ignorance of American History.
 
The divisions between North and South date back to the 1787 Constitutional Convention. The Civil War was not over slavery but more about northern power brokers and industrialist seizing southern wealth.
 
The confederacy was NOT a legally or legitimately separate, independent nation. Never, loser wannabe.

Then Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation was a completely unconstitutional act .....


No it was not.

Of course it was. Where does the Constitution give the president authority to liberate anyone of their property?



Article II, Section 2

WRONG!



Right. A state of war existed regardless of the fact that the so-called confederacy was never a separate nation.
 
The divisions between North and South date back to the 1787 Constitutional Convention. The Civil War was not over slavery but more about northern power brokers and industrialist seizing southern wealth.

"North/South" doesn't matter post Civil War.

If you think it does, I'll be happy to listen to your perspective on which states and perspectives.

I'm guessing you will play me Hank Williams JR, "if the south would have won"
 
The divisions between North and South date back to the 1787 Constitutional Convention. The Civil War was not over slavery but more about northern power brokers and industrialist seizing southern wealth.


Why are people like you so afraid to recognize the obvious truth that slavery lay at the heart of every issue contributing to the war?
 
Then Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation was a completely unconstitutional act .....


No it was not.

Of course it was. Where does the Constitution give the president authority to liberate anyone of their property?



Article II, Section 2

WRONG!



Right. A state of war existed regardless of the fact that the so-called confederacy was never a separate nation.


Right Wingers are FULL of emotion. They are like High School girls.

Every time something strange happens they scream, "WAR!" They never spend time to research what that war costs or if it was even necessary.
 
The divisions between North and South date back to the 1787 Constitutional Convention. The Civil War was not over slavery but more about northern power brokers and industrialist seizing southern wealth.


Why are people like you so afraid to recognize the obvious truth that slavery lay at the heart of every issue contributing to the war?

We Americans never want to admit our flaws.

To admit a flaw would be less than a Pre-Historic Alpha Male dinosaur.

We should, "Roar" beat our chest and use drama to solidify our points..
 

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