If possible, should we peacefully split the country?

[Batcat]

1. resurrect the Trump agenda (or most of it) without Trump and I might even vote (R) again

2. nobody rigged the election on November 3, 2020, and nobody's rigging them now, either - stop repeating the Big Lie and making excuses for losing

1. Trump was often obnoxious and many people felt he didn’t act “Presidential.” However he was willing to work to keep our nation great and wasn‘t running around the world apologizing for the fact we were in first place. He was a nationalist (or perhaps internationalist) rather than a Globalist planning for a New World Government.

Trump is an internationalist, not a globalist

Like all previous presidents, Trump isn’t a globalist. Like them he is an internationalist, committed to cooperating with other nations to achieve common goals based on mutual interests.

www.foxnews.com

***snip***

What Trump is not is a globalist who thinks that a country should sacrifice its own interests to advance fanciful principles advanced by a globalist elite composed of the academics and CEOs who attend Davos conferences and who have little regard for their fellow countrymen.

2. Often when Trump said something he was ridiculed but later proved right. For example remember Trump’s allegation that he was.being “wiiretapped.”

BREAKING: CNN Admits Trump Was Right About Wiretapping

After slandering Trump over wiretap claims, CNN is forced to admit the truth.

www.christiannewsalerts.com

Of course there are numerous other examples.

Media Now Admits Trump Was Right About Pretty Much Everything in 2020

redstate.com

Trump is likely right abut election rigging too. Don’t be surprised if one day the media admits that fact.

 

[Faun]

1. Trump was often obnoxious and many people felt he didn’t act “Presidential.” However he was willing to work to keep our nation great and wasn‘t running around the world apologizing for the fact we were in first place. He was a nationalist (or perhaps internationalist) rather than a Globalist planning for a New World Government.

Trump is an internationalist, not a globalist

Like all previous presidents, Trump isn’t a globalist. Like them he is an internationalist, committed to cooperating with other nations to achieve common goals based on mutual interests.

www.foxnews.com

***snip***

What Trump is not is a globalist who thinks that a country should sacrifice its own interests to advance fanciful principles advanced by a globalist elite composed of the academics and CEOs who attend Davos conferences and who have little regard for their fellow countrymen.

2. Often when Trump said something he was ridiculed but later proved right. For example remember Trump’s allegation that he was.being “wiiretapped.”

BREAKING: CNN Admits Trump Was Right About Wiretapping

After slandering Trump over wiretap claims, CNN is forced to admit the truth.

www.christiannewsalerts.com

Of course there are numerous other examples.

Media Now Admits Trump Was Right About Pretty Much Everything in 2020

redstate.com

Trump is likely right abut election rigging too. Don’t be surprised if one day the media admits that fact.

False. Trump wasn't wiretapped in Trump Towers as he claimed nor was he wiretapped at all. So no, CNN never admitted that.

 

[Batcat]

False. Trump wasn't wiretapped in Trump Towers as he claimed nor was he wiretapped at all. So no, CNN never admitted that.

Exclusive: US government wiretapped former Trump campaign chairman | CNN Politics

US investigators wiretapped former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort under secret court orders before and after the election, sources tell CNN.

www.cnn.com

Obama White House Wiretapped Trump, Then Lied About It: CNN | Stock News & Stock Market Analysis - IBD

Wiretapping: The U.S. government under President Obama wiretapped former Trump campaign Chair Paul Manafort in New York's Trump Tower under "secret court orders before and after the election," CNN reported,... Read More

www.investors.com

 

[Faun]

Exclusive: US government wiretapped former Trump campaign chairman | CNN Politics

US investigators wiretapped former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort under secret court orders before and after the election, sources tell CNN.

www.cnn.com

You do know that Paul Manafort is not Donald Trump, right?

 

[Batcat]

You do know that Paul Manafort is not Donald Trump, right?

The basic concept remains. Trump’s campaign was being spied on.

Obama White House Wiretapped Trump, Then Lied About It: CNN | Stock News & Stock Market Analysis - IBD

Wiretapping: The U.S. government under President Obama wiretapped former Trump campaign Chair Paul Manafort in New York's Trump Tower under "secret court orders before and after the election," CNN reported,... Read More

www.investors.com

***snip***

If CNN's report proves true, those who lied will no doubt say, "We didn't wiretap Trump; we wiretapped Manafort." But that cutesy, specious logic comes up short, both legally and ethically. In tapping Manafort, they knew they were getting Trump's many intimate conversations with him. That's how they could go to FISA and say it wasn't about Trump, but about Manafort. It was in fact a roundabout way of getting Trump in trouble, possibly even impeached.

As the CNN report said, "The government snooping continued into early this year, including a period when Manafort was known to talk to President Trump."

And the wiretaps were used to feed the ongoing investigation of Robert Mueller of the Trump campaign's alleged ties to Russian interference in the 2016 election.

This, by the way, puts a new gloss on why President Obama did nothing at all when first presented with evidence in the summer of 2016 that the Russians might be hacking our election. It was a way to take down the Democrats' biggest threat, the unpredictable Donald Trump.

 

[Faun]

The basic concept remains. Trump’s campaign was being spied on.

Obama White House Wiretapped Trump, Then Lied About It: CNN | Stock News & Stock Market Analysis - IBD

Wiretapping: The U.S. government under President Obama wiretapped former Trump campaign Chair Paul Manafort in New York's Trump Tower under "secret court orders before and after the election," CNN reported,... Read More

www.investors.com

***snip***

If CNN's report proves true, those who lied will no doubt say, "We didn't wiretap Trump; we wiretapped Manafort." But that cutesy, specious logic comes up short, both legally and ethically. In tapping Manafort, they knew they were getting Trump's many intimate conversations with him. That's how they could go to FISA and say it wasn't about Trump, but about Manafort. It was in fact a roundabout way of getting Trump in trouble, possibly even impeached.

As the CNN report said, "The government snooping continued into early this year, including a period when Manafort was known to talk to President Trump."

And the wiretaps were used to feed the ongoing investigation of Robert Mueller of the Trump campaign's alleged ties to Russian interference in the 2016 election.

This, by the way, puts a new gloss on why President Obama did nothing at all when first presented with evidence in the summer of 2016 that the Russians might be hacking our election. It was a way to take down the Democrats' biggest threat, the unpredictable Donald Trump.

Still false. a) Trump claimed he was spied on and he wasn't; and b) Manafort was not part of Trump's campaign when Manafort was spied on.

Strike two.

 

[SweetSue92]

The Supreme Court decision on vaccine mandates will determine if the USA has anything worth preserving.

If the govt can mandate what medications you inject into your body, it's all over. And then, let it split. Those who are in for the BioMedical Authoritarian State can have it--all the vaccines, passports, and ID checks their little hearts desire.

The rest of us will strike out for freedom.

 

[Kondor3]

1. Trump was often obnoxious and many people felt he didn’t act “Presidential.” However he was willing to work to keep our nation great and wasn‘t running around the world apologizing for the fact we were in first place. He was a nationalist (or perhaps internationalist) rather than a Globalist planning for a New World Government.

Trump is an internationalist, not a globalist

Like all previous presidents, Trump isn’t a globalist. Like them he is an internationalist, committed to cooperating with other nations to achieve common goals based on mutual interests.

www.foxnews.com

***snip***

What Trump is not is a globalist who thinks that a country should sacrifice its own interests to advance fanciful principles advanced by a globalist elite composed of the academics and CEOs who attend Davos conferences and who have little regard for their fellow countrymen.

2. Often when Trump said something he was ridiculed but later proved right. For example remember Trump’s allegation that he was.being “wiiretapped.”

BREAKING: CNN Admits Trump Was Right About Wiretapping

After slandering Trump over wiretap claims, CNN is forced to admit the truth.

www.christiannewsalerts.com

Of course there are numerous other examples.

Media Now Admits Trump Was Right About Pretty Much Everything in 2020

redstate.com

Trump is likely right abut election rigging too. Don’t be surprised if one day the media admits that fact.

Trump was (and is) an ignorant, arrogant, narcissistic autocrat, and both intellectually and morally unfit for the high office into which he stumbled.

This wasn't a matter of 'personality'... this was a matter of underlying Character... fitness to lead men and nations... and he failed the Character test.

Character is every bit as important as agenda and execution... he was not a Public Servant... the public existed to serve him... and that is anathema.

 

[surada]

Exclusive: US government wiretapped former Trump campaign chairman | CNN Politics

US investigators wiretapped former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort under secret court orders before and after the election, sources tell CNN.

www.cnn.com

Obama White House Wiretapped Trump, Then Lied About It: CNN | Stock News & Stock Market Analysis - IBD

Wiretapping: The U.S. government under President Obama wiretapped former Trump campaign Chair Paul Manafort in New York's Trump Tower under "secret court orders before and after the election," CNN reported,... Read More

www.investors.com

The US has monitored communication in and out of Soviet/Russian embassies worldwide for more than 60 years. The only reason this came up is because Trump's people kept calling the Russian embaassy asking for a back channel.

 

[Clipper]

Sure we have disagreements in our party. It's really the constitutionalists vs the establishment. It's not like your party where everybody marches in lockstep except for perhaps a DINO like Manchin.

So don't worry about us. We'll be fine. In your country you can make whites a minority like you're trying to do here. If you get the west side of the country, open your borders and let as many third worlders in that you can afford to support. No more gasoline, natural gas, propane, diesel or any other fossil fuel in your country. All electric powered by hundreds of square miles of solar panels and windmills. You'll be living in utopia.

You label yourself a "constitutionalists"? Try reading it because the Constitution recognized the 3 branches of government & the right of the House to do investigations, like the one now in which Trump & his fascist goons like Jordan are attacking endlessly. And the Constitution doesn't a filthy deranged psychopathic scumbag like Trump the right to engage in a coup just because he got his ass beat in the election.

Try readng the Constitution & abiding by it.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You label yourself a "constitutionalists"? Try reading it because the Constitution recognized the 3 branches of government & the right of the House to do investigations, like the one now in which Trump & his fascist goons like Jordan are attacking endlessly. And the Constitution doesn't a filthy deranged psychopathic scumbag like Trump the right to engage in a coup just because he got his ass beat in the election.

Try readng the Constitution & abiding by it.

We do, it's you leftists that hate the document so much. As far as Congress goes, our founders never imagined people would be so political as to use their authority to conduct witch hunts like this and Russia collusion just because they fear a political opponent so much. They never imagined the Communists taking over and conducting impeachments with no impeachable offenses. Nor a President that would use our federal agencies to hassle and conduct searches of people's homes for a personal matter like his daughters stolen diary. This isn't American, this is Nazism.

 

[Faun]

We do, it's you leftists that hate the document so much. As far as Congress goes, our founders never imagined people would be so political as to use their authority to conduct witch hunts like this and Russia collusion just because they fear a political opponent so much. They never imagined the Communists taking over and conducting impeachments with no impeachable offenses. Nor a President that would use our federal agencies to hassle and conduct searches of people's homes for a personal matter like his daughters stolen diary. This isn't American, this is Nazism.

LOL

Shitstain, it was your peeps who tried to unconstitutionally get the loser of the last presidential election sworn in as president.

Sell stupid elsewhere.

 

[Clipper]

We do, it's you leftists that hate the document so much. As far as Congress goes, our founders never imagined people would be so political as to use their authority to conduct witch hunts like this and Russia collusion just because they fear a political opponent so much. They never imagined the Communists taking over and conducting impeachments with no impeachable offenses. Nor a President that would use our federal agencies to hassle and conduct searches of people's homes for a personal matter like his daughters stolen diary. This isn't American, this is Nazism.

You Bozos are scared shitless of this commission because deep down you know your boy & his crew was in on planning 1/6 so who do you think you're bullshitting?

That coward you worship is so desperate he's going to the SCOTUS begging not to have ro release documents. The conman isn't even paying his own legal fees. The RNC is.

Sane people fear Trump because he's a lunatic.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You Bozos are scared shitless of this commission because deep down you know your boy & his crew was in on planning 1/6 so who do you think you're bullshitting?

That coward you worship is so desperate he's going to the SCOTUS begging not to have ro release documents. The conman isn't even paying his own legal fees. The RNC is.

Sane people fear Trump because he's a lunatic.

Stupid statement. First of all this was already investigated by the FBI. Their conclusion is that this was not a planned attack by anybody. Secondly they are not looking for anything related to 1/6, they are only looking for reasons to dig into Trump's personal files to try and destroy him because Trump is the biggest threat to communism that ever existed.

 

[Clipper]

Stupid statement. First of all this was already investigated by the FBI. Their conclusion is that this was not a planned attack by anybody. Secondly they are not looking for anything related to 1/6, they are only looking for reasons to dig into Trump's personal files to try and destroy him because Trump is the biggest threat to communism that ever existed.

Biden has already taken the position that EP doesn't apply so they're not "Trump files".

Try to keep up.

These lawsuitss & appeals are nothing but stall tactics by your boy & his goon squad.

 

[skye]

Just what the title asks. If a house divided cannot stand, should the house divide into two or more houses that can stand while we can still seperate peacefully?

Since I believe I am required a link...here it is...

Is America Doomed to Split Apart?

townhall.com

More and more I'm beginning to think that - that to split its going to be one solution to save the traditional America we all love and respect.

I don't know how is all going to turn out....but the way it's going now....with the millions of illegal savages replacing everyday Americans .... with all the perversions and corruptions from the communist Left.....and on and on...

Split or not split?

Do split please.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Biden has already taken the position that EP doesn't apply so they're not "Trump files".

Try to keep up.

These lawsuitss & appeals are nothing but stall tactics by your boy & his goon squad.

Good, and I hope they keep doing it against these anti-Americans.