If I Shake my Fist at the Sky

[ding]

It proves you're an idiot.

Is that the best argument you've got to defend God?

​

I’m pretty sure the creator of existence can take care of himself. A better question is what does your assault on God say about you.

It says that I'm sick and fucking tired of seeing our society and our politics being so profoundly warped by the naive and the stubborn who still believe that it is their duty to push The God of Abraham, as defined in The Torah, The New Testament and/or The Qur'an as deeply in to our politics and our society as is possible.

Really? I haven’t seen that. Maybe you’re just overly sensitive. Are you on a JW mailing list or something? Are Mormons waiting to ambush you when you leave your house? Are you being chased by Evangelicals who are trying to give you a baptizing?

How about the simple fact that every politician in America MUST close every address or engagement with "... and God bless The United States of America." or they lose.

America is slowly but surely crawling out from under the influence of The Bible and this is a good thing. It's just taking a painfully long Time for me.

Time is precious.

This is why, when I find myself shouting something from a rooftop, it's usually trying to encourage people to bury The God of Abraham, as defined in The Torah, The New Testament and The Qur'an with the dusty Arabs who wrote those ancient tales, and to pursue instead a relationship with The God of (insert your name here).

I see SO much potential for our species! We just need to shake loose of the influence of those ancient, patriarchal tales.

Maybe you should start a church.

You seem to have a lot of passion for your religion.

If you are arguing against someone else’s religious beliefs, you might be a religious nut job.

 

[ding]

You might be wondering "Why the fuck did that go so badly for me?" Sometime in the future.

And yet here we are, five years after my challenge to The God of Abraham, and I remain one of the luckiest little bastards that I know.

Either The God of Abraham is completely impotent or He doesn't exist or the ancient Arab tales that describe Him screwed the pooch regarding how much He gives a shit about the people who worship him. A whole lotta Bahamians worship this God....

What? Was He pissed off about how their tourism industry is raping the planet and more than willing to sacrifice them for Mar-a-lago and West Palm Beach?

Give me a friggin' break!​

What do you mean "ancient Arab?"

The Arabs didn't migrate from North Africa to the middle east until the 3rd century AD, Islam didn't arrive until the 6th century.

I find it amusing that you wage war against something you claim doesn't exist.

If you TRULY didn't believe, you would ignore it.

What I believe is that those three story books originated in The Middle East. Those three ancient stories that still dominate religious practice AND conflict all across our shrinking world are a cancer to our further development as a free society.

I preach against The God of Abraham, as defined in The Torah, The New Testament and The Qur'an because I believe that the fewer people worshiping Him under ANY pretense or religion, the better for planet earth.

Between the Muslims wanting to kill those choosing not to convert and the Christians wanting to push their religious agenda in politics at the cost of freedom, enough is enough.

The Time to bury The God of Abraham and the ancient Arabs with Abraham and the ancient Arabs is upon us.

`​

This will not go well for you. God ingrained Karma into this world he created.

He has all the time in the world to make it happen, too.

Bring it.


Piss on The God of Abraham and the fucked up influence those three ancient books maintain on 21st Century Life.

I think Karl Marx May have said the exact same thing, Joey.

 

[presonorek]

Is that the best argument you've got to defend God?

​

I’m pretty sure the creator of existence can take care of himself. A better question is what does your assault on God say about you.

It says that I'm sick and fucking tired of seeing our society and our politics being so profoundly warped by the naive and the stubborn who still believe that it is their duty to push The God of Abraham, as defined in The Torah, The New Testament and/or The Qur'an as deeply in to our politics and our society as is possible.

Really? I haven’t seen that. Maybe you’re just overly sensitive. Are you on a JW mailing list or something? Are Mormons waiting to ambush you when you leave your house? Are you being chased by Evangelicals who are trying to give you a baptizing?

How about the simple fact that every politician in America MUST close every address or engagement with "... and God bless The United States of America." or they lose.

America is slowly but surely crawling out from under the influence of The Bible and this is a good thing. It's just taking a painfully long Time for me.

Time is precious.

This is why, when I find myself shouting something from a rooftop, it's usually trying to encourage people to bury The God of Abraham, as defined in The Torah, The New Testament and The Qur'an with the dusty Arabs who wrote those ancient tales, and to pursue instead a relationship with The God of (insert your name here).

I see SO much potential for our species! We just need to shake loose of the influence of those ancient, patriarchal tales.

Maybe you should start a church.

You seem to have a lot of passion for your religion.

If you are arguing against someone else’s religious beliefs, you might be a religious nut job.

He may not talk about this stuff in real life. Most atheists don't.

 

[ding]

I’m pretty sure the creator of existence can take care of himself. A better question is what does your assault on God say about you.

It says that I'm sick and fucking tired of seeing our society and our politics being so profoundly warped by the naive and the stubborn who still believe that it is their duty to push The God of Abraham, as defined in The Torah, The New Testament and/or The Qur'an as deeply in to our politics and our society as is possible.

Really? I haven’t seen that. Maybe you’re just overly sensitive. Are you on a JW mailing list or something? Are Mormons waiting to ambush you when you leave your house? Are you being chased by Evangelicals who are trying to give you a baptizing?

How about the simple fact that every politician in America MUST close every address or engagement with "... and God bless The United States of America." or they lose.

America is slowly but surely crawling out from under the influence of The Bible and this is a good thing. It's just taking a painfully long Time for me.

Time is precious.

This is why, when I find myself shouting something from a rooftop, it's usually trying to encourage people to bury The God of Abraham, as defined in The Torah, The New Testament and The Qur'an with the dusty Arabs who wrote those ancient tales, and to pursue instead a relationship with The God of (insert your name here).

I see SO much potential for our species! We just need to shake loose of the influence of those ancient, patriarchal tales.

Maybe you should start a church.

You seem to have a lot of passion for your religion.

If you are arguing against someone else’s religious beliefs, you might be a religious nut job.

He may not talk about this stuff in real life. Most atheists don't.

Is this pretend life?

 

[Taz]

Whose words? Your invisible friend?

The writer of Hebrews, Paul.

No proof Paul wrote anything. And where does a brown Arab guy get a name like Paul, that’s dumb.

Nonsense, there is a great deal of proof that Paul wrote everything. In fact the evidence points to Paul creating the Christian religion from a variety of sources, some Gnostic, some tradition myth, some Greek, some Sumerian. Paul took the tales and crafted a cohesive religion much like Joseph Smith and Jim Jones did. Paul became a very powerful man - until the Romans became irritated.....

Carbon dating disagrees with you.

 

[presonorek]

It says that I'm sick and fucking tired of seeing our society and our politics being so profoundly warped by the naive and the stubborn who still believe that it is their duty to push The God of Abraham, as defined in The Torah, The New Testament and/or The Qur'an as deeply in to our politics and our society as is possible.

Really? I haven’t seen that. Maybe you’re just overly sensitive. Are you on a JW mailing list or something? Are Mormons waiting to ambush you when you leave your house? Are you being chased by Evangelicals who are trying to give you a baptizing?

How about the simple fact that every politician in America MUST close every address or engagement with "... and God bless The United States of America." or they lose.

America is slowly but surely crawling out from under the influence of The Bible and this is a good thing. It's just taking a painfully long Time for me.

Time is precious.

This is why, when I find myself shouting something from a rooftop, it's usually trying to encourage people to bury The God of Abraham, as defined in The Torah, The New Testament and The Qur'an with the dusty Arabs who wrote those ancient tales, and to pursue instead a relationship with The God of (insert your name here).

I see SO much potential for our species! We just need to shake loose of the influence of those ancient, patriarchal tales.

Maybe you should start a church.

You seem to have a lot of passion for your religion.

If you are arguing against someone else’s religious beliefs, you might be a religious nut job.

He may not talk about this stuff in real life. Most atheists don't.

Is this pretend life?

Yes. My real name isn't vasuderatorrent. His real name isn't Avg-Joe. Your real name isn't ding.

Not only Yes but duh.

But just because this is pretend life doesn't mean you can scream troll and pretend to win an argument.

Nevermind. I guess you can. Enjoy!

 

[ding]

Really? I haven’t seen that. Maybe you’re just overly sensitive. Are you on a JW mailing list or something? Are Mormons waiting to ambush you when you leave your house? Are you being chased by Evangelicals who are trying to give you a baptizing?

How about the simple fact that every politician in America MUST close every address or engagement with "... and God bless The United States of America." or they lose.

America is slowly but surely crawling out from under the influence of The Bible and this is a good thing. It's just taking a painfully long Time for me.

Time is precious.

This is why, when I find myself shouting something from a rooftop, it's usually trying to encourage people to bury The God of Abraham, as defined in The Torah, The New Testament and The Qur'an with the dusty Arabs who wrote those ancient tales, and to pursue instead a relationship with The God of (insert your name here).

I see SO much potential for our species! We just need to shake loose of the influence of those ancient, patriarchal tales.

Maybe you should start a church.

You seem to have a lot of passion for your religion.

If you are arguing against someone else’s religious beliefs, you might be a religious nut job.

He may not talk about this stuff in real life. Most atheists don't.

Is this pretend life?

Yes. My real name isn't vasuderatorrent. His real name isn't Avg-Joe. Your real name isn't ding.

Not only Yes but duh.

But just because this is pretend life doesn't mean you can scream troll and pretend to win an argument.

Nevermind. I guess you can. Enjoy!

Of course you are pretending. No one here believes you were a Christian who lost faith.

You’re just a troll seeking to subordinate religion. Probably even communist leaning too. Amirite?

 

[presonorek]

How about the simple fact that every politician in America MUST close every address or engagement with "... and God bless The United States of America." or they lose.

America is slowly but surely crawling out from under the influence of The Bible and this is a good thing. It's just taking a painfully long Time for me.

Time is precious.

This is why, when I find myself shouting something from a rooftop, it's usually trying to encourage people to bury The God of Abraham, as defined in The Torah, The New Testament and The Qur'an with the dusty Arabs who wrote those ancient tales, and to pursue instead a relationship with The God of (insert your name here).

I see SO much potential for our species! We just need to shake loose of the influence of those ancient, patriarchal tales.

Maybe you should start a church.

You seem to have a lot of passion for your religion.

If you are arguing against someone else’s religious beliefs, you might be a religious nut job.

He may not talk about this stuff in real life. Most atheists don't.

Is this pretend life?

Yes. My real name isn't vasuderatorrent. His real name isn't Avg-Joe. Your real name isn't ding.

Not only Yes but duh.

But just because this is pretend life doesn't mean you can scream troll and pretend to win an argument.

Nevermind. I guess you can. Enjoy!

Of course you are pretending. No one here believes you were a Christian who lost faith.

You’re just a troll seeking to subordinate religion. Probably even communist leaning too. Amirite?

Not even close. If I could create a religious theocracy of any persuasion then I would. That makes me an extreme right wing radical. That would be far from communism. I would only subordinate the religion(s) that aren't part of the theocracy. Until the time that that theocratic view is imposed on me then I will have my own opinion which you may not like.

The definition of a troll is someone with an opinion that differs from the person calling him/her a troll. I am only a troll if you disagree with my opinion. So yes. I probably am a troll.

 

[ding]

Maybe you should start a church.

You seem to have a lot of passion for your religion.

If you are arguing against someone else’s religious beliefs, you might be a religious nut job.

He may not talk about this stuff in real life. Most atheists don't.

Is this pretend life?

Yes. My real name isn't vasuderatorrent. His real name isn't Avg-Joe. Your real name isn't ding.

Not only Yes but duh.

But just because this is pretend life doesn't mean you can scream troll and pretend to win an argument.

Nevermind. I guess you can. Enjoy!

Of course you are pretending. No one here believes you were a Christian who lost faith.

You’re just a troll seeking to subordinate religion. Probably even communist leaning too. Amirite?

Not even close. If I could create a religious theocracy of any persuasion then I would. That makes me an extreme right wing radical. That would be far from communism. I would only subordinate the religion(s) that aren't part of the theocracy. Until the time that that theocratic view is imposed on me then I will have my own opinion which you may not like.

The definition of a troll is someone with an opinion that differs from the person calling him/her a troll. I am only a troll if you disagree with my opinion. So yes. I probably am a troll.

Wrong. Communism forced their religious beliefs on everyone. That makes you exactly like them.

 

[presonorek]

He may not talk about this stuff in real life. Most atheists don't.

Is this pretend life?

Yes. My real name isn't vasuderatorrent. His real name isn't Avg-Joe. Your real name isn't ding.

Not only Yes but duh.

But just because this is pretend life doesn't mean you can scream troll and pretend to win an argument.

Nevermind. I guess you can. Enjoy!

Of course you are pretending. No one here believes you were a Christian who lost faith.

You’re just a troll seeking to subordinate religion. Probably even communist leaning too. Amirite?

Not even close. If I could create a religious theocracy of any persuasion then I would. That makes me an extreme right wing radical. That would be far from communism. I would only subordinate the religion(s) that aren't part of the theocracy. Until the time that that theocratic view is imposed on me then I will have my own opinion which you may not like.

The definition of a troll is someone with an opinion that differs from the person calling him/her a troll. I am only a troll if you disagree with my opinion. So yes. I probably am a troll.

Wrong. Communism forced their religious beliefs on everyone. That makes you exactly like them.

Oh. So you are not referencing Marxist Communism? Religion is forbidden in the Marxist Communist model. I thought everyone knew this.

 

[presonorek]

He may not talk about this stuff in real life. Most atheists don't.

Is this pretend life?

Yes. My real name isn't vasuderatorrent. His real name isn't Avg-Joe. Your real name isn't ding.

Not only Yes but duh.

But just because this is pretend life doesn't mean you can scream troll and pretend to win an argument.

Nevermind. I guess you can. Enjoy!

Of course you are pretending. No one here believes you were a Christian who lost faith.

You’re just a troll seeking to subordinate religion. Probably even communist leaning too. Amirite?

Not even close. If I could create a religious theocracy of any persuasion then I would. That makes me an extreme right wing radical. That would be far from communism. I would only subordinate the religion(s) that aren't part of the theocracy. Until the time that that theocratic view is imposed on me then I will have my own opinion which you may not like.

The definition of a troll is someone with an opinion that differs from the person calling him/her a troll. I am only a troll if you disagree with my opinion. So yes. I probably am a troll.

Wrong. Communism forced their religious beliefs on everyone. That makes you exactly like them.

If it was up to me then Spanish would be the official language of the United States and a brand new Spanish-based form of Islam would be the official religion of the United States. Practitioners of all other religions or those choosing "none" would be exterminated.

 

[presonorek]

He may not talk about this stuff in real life. Most atheists don't.

Is this pretend life?

Yes. My real name isn't vasuderatorrent. His real name isn't Avg-Joe. Your real name isn't ding.

Not only Yes but duh.

But just because this is pretend life doesn't mean you can scream troll and pretend to win an argument.

Nevermind. I guess you can. Enjoy!

Of course you are pretending. No one here believes you were a Christian who lost faith.

You’re just a troll seeking to subordinate religion. Probably even communist leaning too. Amirite?

Not even close. If I could create a religious theocracy of any persuasion then I would. That makes me an extreme right wing radical. That would be far from communism. I would only subordinate the religion(s) that aren't part of the theocracy. Until the time that that theocratic view is imposed on me then I will have my own opinion which you may not like.

The definition of a troll is someone with an opinion that differs from the person calling him/her a troll. I am only a troll if you disagree with my opinion. So yes. I probably am a troll.

Wrong. Communism forced their religious beliefs on everyone. That makes you exactly like them.

I think people should be happy and not saddled down with endless arguments over imaginary sky daddies. Just pick one and commit already. Geez. Kill those who don't like the selection and let's move forward together to do stuff. Multiculturalism is an obstacle that hinders progress. Let's all get happy and productive already.

 

[ding]

Is this pretend life?

Yes. My real name isn't vasuderatorrent. His real name isn't Avg-Joe. Your real name isn't ding.

Not only Yes but duh.

But just because this is pretend life doesn't mean you can scream troll and pretend to win an argument.

Nevermind. I guess you can. Enjoy!

Of course you are pretending. No one here believes you were a Christian who lost faith.

You’re just a troll seeking to subordinate religion. Probably even communist leaning too. Amirite?

Not even close. If I could create a religious theocracy of any persuasion then I would. That makes me an extreme right wing radical. That would be far from communism. I would only subordinate the religion(s) that aren't part of the theocracy. Until the time that that theocratic view is imposed on me then I will have my own opinion which you may not like.

The definition of a troll is someone with an opinion that differs from the person calling him/her a troll. I am only a troll if you disagree with my opinion. So yes. I probably am a troll.

Wrong. Communism forced their religious beliefs on everyone. That makes you exactly like them.

I think people should be happy and not saddled down with endless arguments over imaginary sky daddies. Just pick one and commit already. Geez. Kill those who don't like the selection and let's move forward together to do stuff. Multiculturalism is an obstacle that hinders progress. Let's all get happy and productive already.

But you are the one arguing about it. How many threads have you created on it in the last thirty days? Ten?

 

[ding]

Is this pretend life?

Yes. My real name isn't vasuderatorrent. His real name isn't Avg-Joe. Your real name isn't ding.

Not only Yes but duh.

But just because this is pretend life doesn't mean you can scream troll and pretend to win an argument.

Nevermind. I guess you can. Enjoy!

Of course you are pretending. No one here believes you were a Christian who lost faith.

You’re just a troll seeking to subordinate religion. Probably even communist leaning too. Amirite?

Not even close. If I could create a religious theocracy of any persuasion then I would. That makes me an extreme right wing radical. That would be far from communism. I would only subordinate the religion(s) that aren't part of the theocracy. Until the time that that theocratic view is imposed on me then I will have my own opinion which you may not like.

The definition of a troll is someone with an opinion that differs from the person calling him/her a troll. I am only a troll if you disagree with my opinion. So yes. I probably am a troll.

Wrong. Communism forced their religious beliefs on everyone. That makes you exactly like them.

If it was up to me then Spanish would be the official language of the United States and a brand new Spanish-based form of Islam would be the official religion of the United States. Practitioners of all other religions or those choosing "none" would be exterminated.

At least you aren’t being a pussy about it like RWS. Good for you.

 

[ding]

Is this pretend life?

Yes. My real name isn't vasuderatorrent. His real name isn't Avg-Joe. Your real name isn't ding.

Not only Yes but duh.

But just because this is pretend life doesn't mean you can scream troll and pretend to win an argument.

Nevermind. I guess you can. Enjoy!

Of course you are pretending. No one here believes you were a Christian who lost faith.

You’re just a troll seeking to subordinate religion. Probably even communist leaning too. Amirite?

Not even close. If I could create a religious theocracy of any persuasion then I would. That makes me an extreme right wing radical. That would be far from communism. I would only subordinate the religion(s) that aren't part of the theocracy. Until the time that that theocratic view is imposed on me then I will have my own opinion which you may not like.

The definition of a troll is someone with an opinion that differs from the person calling him/her a troll. I am only a troll if you disagree with my opinion. So yes. I probably am a troll.

Wrong. Communism forced their religious beliefs on everyone. That makes you exactly like them.

I think people should be happy and not saddled down with endless arguments over imaginary sky daddies. Just pick one and commit already. Geez. Kill those who don't like the selection and let's move forward together to do stuff. Multiculturalism is an obstacle that hinders progress. Let's all get happy and productive already.

I think people should be honest.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

If I shake my fist at the sky and declare to God that I am impressed with neither his presence nor his proofs to date, and I challenge the aforementioned God to kill me now or forever be regarded and described by me as fictitious, does that prove anything?

 

[Uncensored2008]

Whose words? Your invisible friend?

The writer of Hebrews, Paul.

No proof Paul wrote anything. And where does a brown Arab guy get a name like Paul, that’s dumb.

Nonsense, there is a great deal of proof that Paul wrote everything. In fact the evidence points to Paul creating the Christian religion from a variety of sources, some Gnostic, some tradition myth, some Greek, some Sumerian. Paul took the tales and crafted a cohesive religion much like Joseph Smith and Jim Jones did. Paul became a very powerful man - until the Romans became irritated.....

Carbon dating disagrees with you.

Carbon dating of what?

The Dead Sea Scrolls? Try again...

Carbon dating the Dead Sea Scrolls - Wikipedia

 

[Uncensored2008]

If it was up to me then Spanish would be the official language of the United States and a brand new Spanish-based form of Islam would be the official religion of the United States. Practitioners of all other religions or those choosing "none" would be exterminated.

You must be a democrat....

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

And so you will force your beliefs on them at the point of a sword and declare yourself perfect

Haha...what the fuck is this whiny nonsense?

 

[Taz]

Whose words? Your invisible friend?

The writer of Hebrews, Paul.

No proof Paul wrote anything. And where does a brown Arab guy get a name like Paul, that’s dumb.

Nonsense, there is a great deal of proof that Paul wrote everything. In fact the evidence points to Paul creating the Christian religion from a variety of sources, some Gnostic, some tradition myth, some Greek, some Sumerian. Paul took the tales and crafted a cohesive religion much like Joseph Smith and Jim Jones did. Paul became a very powerful man - until the Romans became irritated.....

Carbon dating disagrees with you.

Carbon dating of what?

The Dead Sea Scrolls? Try again...

Carbon dating the Dead Sea Scrolls - Wikipedia

Your link shows that the carbon dating of these pieces (or whatever this link is talking about) is not confined to when the authors would have lived.