If both parties worked for real Americans wouldn't issues such as immigration be easy to solve?

[sartre play]

Who are real Americans? I was born here, my parents born here, my grandparents born here. in what way does that make me a better person than any other American?

 

[woodwork201]

There are 2 routes to ending "illegal" immigration- think Prohibition- same damn thing

We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal and have certain unalineable rights endowed by their Creator, among these are, the right to Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness-

There are no caveats in that founding principle, which is also a life philosophy that very few "Americans" share, which proves the Public Education System is a sham-

First, end the restrictions (like was done for Prohibition), voila! no longer illegal!
Or, secondly,rely on FREE (unencumbered) Markets, not centrally controlled which restricts consumer and producer participation- FREE markets will solve ALL of our problems- of course then the political class would have to really think to find issues it could use as a tool to divide voters into 1 of 2 classes- tool or enemy-

That's about the most idiotic post I've seen here and I've seen some idiotic posts. If you allow anyone into the country then we have no country. All the things that bring people here would not exist. If the world thought as you do, there'd be exactly two states of humanity: the wealthy elite and the extremely poor workers.

The pursuit of life, liberty, and happiness does not include the pursuit of other people's earnings. It means that they have the right to liberty and, as our Founders did, they have to earn it and, in most cases, fight for it.

If all these people you want to let into the United States are such great additions to our country then why aren't they great additions to their own shit-hole countries?

 

[woodwork201]

The DOi / our founding documents are not international documents...they do not reach to the citizens of foreign nations and they certainly were not written for criminal trespassers from foreign nations.
Do you really think our framers intended to fuck over Americans and help foreign criminals?

And now you have the answer to your opening post in this thread. The left, including the Republican Branch, want to destroy this nation in pursuit of corporate wealth. You can't negotiate when your adversary comes to the table with the sword of destruction.

 

[woodwork201]

Your opinion says a lot about you and nothing about me- and I don't care what you tell your wife- I care about ALL men being treated with respect, which obviously you don't

What about open borders shows respect? It doesn't show respect for those who worked hard to build a nation. It doesn't show respect when we take people in and put them on welfare. It doesn't show respect when you tell black and brown people that they are incapable of achieving what white people can achieve so take this handout and shut up.

It's not respectful to allow children to be drug thousands of miles across deserts and molested, raped, and enslaved. It's not respectful to women to set them up to be raped, enslaved, and beaten and murdered. If this is respect, is it respectful if the local drug kingpins in your town come over and rape your wife and your mother? Because that's what is happening to those coming across the border into the US.

Law and order are the first tools of respect. That sets the expectation that we respect the rights of others or pay the consequences. When people come here in defiance of the law, come here to protest against the very people who are feeding them, to come here to work to turn our nation into the shit-hole nation from which they came, they are not showing respect.

 

[woodwork201]

I assume there is some sort of bullshit legislation in place that shields piece of shit employers from prosecution in such cases...I also assume Mexicrats advocated for such legislation.

Here's the applicable law:

8 U.S. Code § 1324a - Unlawful employment of aliens

www.law.cornell.edu

You'll notice that about 80% of the text in that law is about the exceptions and loopholes to the law. It's nearly impossible to meet the requirements for prosecution. That was by design.

 

[woodwork201]

I think the short answer is yes, you can put these folks in jail....the point is however, the people most vocal about wanting to see brown people thrown in cages don't keep that same energy for employers.....maybe because those employers may end up being their boss, neighbor, friend or them

You're absolutely right. The people that want most to see brown people in cages by which we all know that you mean Joe Biden and his mentor Barack Obama (we know this because they are the ones who put the most brown people in cages, putting more brown people in cages than anyone in the US since 1865) definitely do not want to enforce laws against hiring illegal immigrants.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Who are real Americans? I was born here, my parents born here, my grandparents born here. in what way does that make me a better person than any other American?

We have 20-40 million here illegally and millions more here born to illegal parents on stolen citizenships and without consent from We The People. “Real“ Americans have legal roots.
This is simple shit for children.

 

[badbob85037]

I blame the Democrats

Me too' THEY ARE TRAITORS AND HAVE SINSE 2016

 

[Resnic]

Democrats in particular act as if the immigration issue is one very complex in nature....but is it really?
Don't the parties 'sell' the issues they have no interest in solving as difficult and complex?

Immigration isn't the issue, it's illegals that are the problem.

And illegals aren't that hard either, it's just going to take time. Finish the wall and hell make it a public works project where they pay out of work Americans to help build it that would employ them for years to get back on their feet, stop importing illegals, border patrol is to send any illegals back instead of keeping them, let the world know we welcome immigrants that go through the immigration process and anyone who doesn't isn't welcome until they do, start making employers report illegals and face sever fines if they don't, start calling them illegals again like they are, and make sure Americans know it's for the good of the country.

 

[evenflow1969]

Democrats in particular act as if the immigration issue is one very complex in nature....but is it really?
Don't the parties 'sell' the issues they have no interest in solving as difficult and complex?

Lol, no because no one has solved them since the beginning of time. Way back in ancient Rome they had the same problems. We have thousands upon thousands of miles of borders. You will never catch them all. Just the way it is. You will never eliminate rape, you will never eliminate murder. I laugh at y'all talking about the twelve thousand under the bridge. It captivated you , you were all worried about those twelve thousand. Mean while we knew exactly where those fuckers were. We sent all our resources there to accommodate your panic porn. Why did they all show up there? Who was behind it? Do you know what you should be worried about? I will tell you! I am worried about what came across the border while we were all looking at that bridge. In a different place.

 

[woodwork201]

Me too' THEY ARE TRAITORS AND HAVE SINSE 2016

Democrats have been traitors since April 12, 1861.

 

[woodwork201]

Immigration isn't the issue, it's illegals that are the problem.

And illegals aren't that hard either, it's just going to take time. Finish the wall and hell make it a public works project where they pay out of work Americans to help build it that would employ them for years to get back on their feet, stop importing illegals, border patrol is to send any illegals back instead of keeping them, let the world know we welcome immigrants that go through the immigration process and anyone who doesn't isn't welcome until they do, start making employers report illegals and face sever fines if they don't, start calling them illegals again like they are, and make sure Americans know it's for the good of the country.

They say we can't just round up and deport 11 million (they pretend the number isn't 33 million or more) illegal aliens and deport them. And then they brag about how many people they were able to extract from Kabul in such a short time. It's amazing what they could do if they'd just put their hearts in it. Rounding up and deporting 33 million criminal aliens starts with deporting the first criminal alien. Let's just get started and see what we can do.