I was wrong about Covid 19, and you probably was too.

[Asclepias]

1. Trump is the President and its his responsibility to protect the country from dangerous crises like this. He failed to act early which is why the United States is stuck in this mess. New York State and more particular New York City is suffering because of the population density there, its unofficial title as capital of the world where so much of the planets travel and trade goes through.

2. I have praised Russia in other threads, but Japan is an ally, democracy, diversified market economy, first world country with a large population, like the United States. It is many similarities to the United States and maintains accurate counts in its medical field. It also is very exposed to China given that China is its largest trading partner. So I thought Japan was the best example with which to compare the United States to show how Donald Trump has failed the country.

#1) I disagree he failed to act.

#2) So is South Korea. The cases in the US % wise are very few and far between.

1.) He should have shut the international borders back in February. He only shut down direct transport from China. Just shutting down travel from one country does virtually nothing in those globalized market place.

2.) Japan is the better comparison. Japan only has 9 cases per 1 million in population. The United States now has 98 cases per one million in population. The United States had a chance to be Japan. But Trump failed to act!

#1) He was getting mixed messages. He didn't want to happen in terms what is happening now. Economy in an upheaval, unemployment rising to 20% and kids not in schools. It is easy to be the Monday Morning QB but this was a very difficult decision. He did shut down travel but the virus was already here.

#2) Japan is much smaller than US and it is not all Trump. We are a Republic not an Empire. Trump was vilified and called a racist for closing travel to and from China if you recall.

Stop making excuses for the incompetent fuck up. Thats part of leadership. You use your experts and your judgement. All his experts were telling him the exact same thing early in Jan officially. He decided it was a hoax then isnt even leader enough to accept the responsibility of fucking up.

ALL OF HIS EXPERTS? Except those that disagreed, whom you called "idiots". LOL.

I called Drumpf and his supporters idiots. I didnt call the intelligence community idiots.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Read the link and do your part to stop the hysteria-

Not sure what point you're trying to make with your link. H1N1 is not even the same type of virus as Covid-19.

 

[Asclepias]

Read the link and do your part to stop the hysteria-

Not sure what point you're trying to make with your link. H1N1 is not even the same type of virus as Covid-19.

Drumptards specialize in false equivalence.

 

[Meathead]

I put this in Politics because if I put it in health, few will see it. As well as politics of this virus was clouding my mind in the same way it has clouded all of our minds.
As mentioned before, my son is a Respiratory Care Specialist at one of the nations leading Children's hospitals and my daughter is a Respiratory Therapist at a large metropolitan hospital/trauma center. When I say they are on the front lines of this, I mean they are on the front lines.
Up until Friday, I was not that concerned about getting it, or my wife or the two of them. Like most, I was comfortable in the knowledge that it is primarily a concern for the very old/folks with underlying illness.
That is no longer the case.
This weekend, all over the country hospitals are getting much younger patients that require life saving care - and they have no other illness. And the numbers you are seeing reported are not representative of the actual numbers. It is higher.
Like many, I scoffed at all of these restrictions the government was laying out. 4 states with "stay at home" orders. I thought this was over reacting.
Until I got a call from both my kids. Especially my daughter, upset and for the first time afraid and scared. "It is really bad here Dad, we are getting more and more and they are getting younger".
A 32 year old, who 48 hours earlier was at work, feeling a little funny. Last night he was on life support and fighting for his life. Add more to that. Kids also.

The situation is evolving. And it is changing in not a good way.
Take it serious folks. Don't wait until it effects you or someone you know. Change what you are doing now.
Thank God our government took this more seriously than we did.... I guess they knew more than us.




On a good note. The malaria drug is showing promise. Yesterday a 66 year old at the hospital was in critical condition on a breathing machine. He has received 2 malaria shots, is now off the machine and sitting up and talking. It isn't working for everyone, but it is clearly having positive results on some.

Yes, it's no joke, but everything this far became predictable a couple of weeks ago.

Still, it is not a biblical catastrophe and will pass.

 

[CWayne]

At least you can admit you were wrong. Takes intelligence to be able to do that.

So, we won't be seeing any intelligence from you then. Good to know.

I'm going to do what I always do and take this OP with a grain of salt and wait to see some real facts.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

#1) I disagree he failed to act.

#2) So is South Korea. The cases in the US % wise are very few and far between.

1.) He should have shut the international borders back in February. He only shut down direct transport from China. Just shutting down travel from one country does virtually nothing in those globalized market place.

2.) Japan is the better comparison. Japan only has 9 cases per 1 million in population. The United States now has 98 cases per one million in population. The United States had a chance to be Japan. But Trump failed to act!

#1) He was getting mixed messages. He didn't want to happen in terms what is happening now. Economy in an upheaval, unemployment rising to 20% and kids not in schools. It is easy to be the Monday Morning QB but this was a very difficult decision. He did shut down travel but the virus was already here.

#2) Japan is much smaller than US and it is not all Trump. We are a Republic not an Empire. Trump was vilified and called a racist for closing travel to and from China if you recall.

#1) Trump is President and when he fails to do the job, you need to let him go.

#2) Japan is 5 times the size of New York State in terms of population, but only has 1,086 cases compared to New York States 22,000+! Massive failure.

#1) People will decide in November

#2) Ever been to NY...people are literally on top of one another. Not the size but the density is what counts. I am not shocked NY got it so bad.

I'm assuming with your statement #2 you've never been to Japan? I've been to both cities and Tokoyo is way more crowded than NY.

Where is Tokoyo?

 

[Asclepias]

At least you can admit you were wrong. Takes intelligence to be able to do that.

So, we won't be seeing any intelligence from you then. Good to know.

I'm going to do what I always do and take this OP with a grain of salt and wait to see some real facts.

You see intelligence from me every post. Not my fault or concern you lack the intellect to see it.

I didnt ask you what you were going to do. Matter of fact I dont even know who you are.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

#1) I disagree he failed to act.

#2) So is South Korea. The cases in the US % wise are very few and far between.

1.) He should have shut the international borders back in February. He only shut down direct transport from China. Just shutting down travel from one country does virtually nothing in those globalized market place.

2.) Japan is the better comparison. Japan only has 9 cases per 1 million in population. The United States now has 98 cases per one million in population. The United States had a chance to be Japan. But Trump failed to act!

#1) He was getting mixed messages. He didn't want to happen in terms what is happening now. Economy in an upheaval, unemployment rising to 20% and kids not in schools. It is easy to be the Monday Morning QB but this was a very difficult decision. He did shut down travel but the virus was already here.

#2) Japan is much smaller than US and it is not all Trump. We are a Republic not an Empire. Trump was vilified and called a racist for closing travel to and from China if you recall.

Stop making excuses for the incompetent fuck up. Thats part of leadership. You use your experts and your judgement. All his experts were telling him the exact same thing early in Jan officially. He decided it was a hoax then isnt even leader enough to accept the responsibility of fucking up.

ALL OF HIS EXPERTS? Except those that disagreed, whom you called "idiots". LOL.

I called Drumpf and his supporters idiots. I didnt call the intelligence community idiots.

You called the guy who wrote that article an idiot. Prove he is a Trump supporter

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

I'm going to do what I always do and take this OP with a grain of salt and wait to see some real facts.

Yours isn't a very thoughtful response either. Where do you plan on receiving these 'real facts' from? Upside your head? Osmosis?

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Yes, it's no joke, but everything this far became predictable a couple of weeks ago.

Still, it is not a biblical catastrophe and will pass.

Ah, but that is the thing isn't it?
It doesn't have to be one or the other.
It doesn't have to be "team A or team B".... dividing us one again.
It isn't the black plague. But.... it isn't the common cold either.
It doesn't have to be something to argue about. It can be something we instead cooperate together and beat.

 

[CWayne]

I'm going to do what I always do and take this OP with a grain of salt and wait to see some real facts.

Yours isn't a very thoughtful response either. Where do you plan on receiving these 'real facts' from? Upside your head? Osmosis?

Not from you, or anyone on this website. cdc.gov is usually a good bet, but not always. They do play a bit of politics.

There are a number of legitimate sources for information regarding the covid-19. None of them are here, none of them are in the media.

However, feel free to believe whatever anyone who comes along tells you.

 

[Asclepias]

1.) He should have shut the international borders back in February. He only shut down direct transport from China. Just shutting down travel from one country does virtually nothing in those globalized market place.

2.) Japan is the better comparison. Japan only has 9 cases per 1 million in population. The United States now has 98 cases per one million in population. The United States had a chance to be Japan. But Trump failed to act!

#1) He was getting mixed messages. He didn't want to happen in terms what is happening now. Economy in an upheaval, unemployment rising to 20% and kids not in schools. It is easy to be the Monday Morning QB but this was a very difficult decision. He did shut down travel but the virus was already here.

#2) Japan is much smaller than US and it is not all Trump. We are a Republic not an Empire. Trump was vilified and called a racist for closing travel to and from China if you recall.

Stop making excuses for the incompetent fuck up. Thats part of leadership. You use your experts and your judgement. All his experts were telling him the exact same thing early in Jan officially. He decided it was a hoax then isnt even leader enough to accept the responsibility of fucking up.

ALL OF HIS EXPERTS? Except those that disagreed, whom you called "idiots". LOL.

I called Drumpf and his supporters idiots. I didnt call the intelligence community idiots.

You called the guy who wrote that article an idiot. Prove he is a Trump supporter

I dont have to prove he is a Drumpf supporter. Not all idiots are Drumpf supportes but all Drumpf supporters are idiots. You should take a course on statistics.

 

[mamooth]

On a good note. The malaria drug is showing promise.

I've taken up the habit of drinking 2 pints of tonic water a day, which is about all I can stand. And it's available in stores.

Why? Because tonic water contains a significant amount of quinine. Maybe it's a waste, but it doesn't hurt anything, and it doesn't cost much. And I've got no shortage of gin either.

 

[Asclepias]

1.) He should have shut the international borders back in February. He only shut down direct transport from China. Just shutting down travel from one country does virtually nothing in those globalized market place.

2.) Japan is the better comparison. Japan only has 9 cases per 1 million in population. The United States now has 98 cases per one million in population. The United States had a chance to be Japan. But Trump failed to act!

#1) He was getting mixed messages. He didn't want to happen in terms what is happening now. Economy in an upheaval, unemployment rising to 20% and kids not in schools. It is easy to be the Monday Morning QB but this was a very difficult decision. He did shut down travel but the virus was already here.

#2) Japan is much smaller than US and it is not all Trump. We are a Republic not an Empire. Trump was vilified and called a racist for closing travel to and from China if you recall.

#1) Trump is President and when he fails to do the job, you need to let him go.

#2) Japan is 5 times the size of New York State in terms of population, but only has 1,086 cases compared to New York States 22,000+! Massive failure.

#1) People will decide in November

#2) Ever been to NY...people are literally on top of one another. Not the size but the density is what counts. I am not shocked NY got it so bad.

I'm assuming with your statement #2 you've never been to Japan? I've been to both cities and Tokoyo is way more crowded than NY.

Where is Tokoyo?

Google it.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

The "flu" has always affected the young, the old, those with weak immune systems and sometimes others.
Why everyone is so shocked and acting hysterically is beyond comprehension.

Covid 19 IS NOT THE FLU.
It isn't a Flu virus.
It isn't even alive. It is essentially a "zombie". That is, it is not alive and requires a live host in order to animate.
Which is why it can stay in a state of contagious on a dry surface much longer than living cells. Living viruses require moisture and water to stay alive, if they die - they are no longer contagious.
Covid 19 is still contagious after hours and hours on many surfaces because it is NOT alive.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

#1) He was getting mixed messages. He didn't want to happen in terms what is happening now. Economy in an upheaval, unemployment rising to 20% and kids not in schools. It is easy to be the Monday Morning QB but this was a very difficult decision. He did shut down travel but the virus was already here.

#2) Japan is much smaller than US and it is not all Trump. We are a Republic not an Empire. Trump was vilified and called a racist for closing travel to and from China if you recall.

Stop making excuses for the incompetent fuck up. Thats part of leadership. You use your experts and your judgement. All his experts were telling him the exact same thing early in Jan officially. He decided it was a hoax then isnt even leader enough to accept the responsibility of fucking up.

ALL OF HIS EXPERTS? Except those that disagreed, whom you called "idiots". LOL.

I called Drumpf and his supporters idiots. I didnt call the intelligence community idiots.

You called the guy who wrote that article an idiot. Prove he is a Trump supporter

I dont have to prove he is a Drumpf supporter. Not all idiots are Drumpf supportes but all Drumpf supporters are idiots. You should take a course on statistics.

Only Fascists deal in absolutes. You should study the Holocaust or do you deny it happened?

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

I'm going to do what I always do and take this OP with a grain of salt and wait to see some real facts.

Yours isn't a very thoughtful response either. Where do you plan on receiving these 'real facts' from? Upside your head? Osmosis?

Not from you, or anyone on this website. cdc.gov is usually a good bet, but not always. They do play a bit of politics.

There are a number of legitimate sources for information regarding the covid-19. None of them are here, none of them are in the media.

However, feel free to believe whatever anyone who comes along tells you.

I listen to my wife, who has a medical degree and works in a hospital lab dealing with... (wait for it) Viruses. And people working in the medical industry is where anyone should be getting their 'real facts' about Covid-19 from, IMO. Have questions? Call your doctor.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

#1) He was getting mixed messages. He didn't want to happen in terms what is happening now. Economy in an upheaval, unemployment rising to 20% and kids not in schools. It is easy to be the Monday Morning QB but this was a very difficult decision. He did shut down travel but the virus was already here.

#2) Japan is much smaller than US and it is not all Trump. We are a Republic not an Empire. Trump was vilified and called a racist for closing travel to and from China if you recall.

#1) Trump is President and when he fails to do the job, you need to let him go.

#2) Japan is 5 times the size of New York State in terms of population, but only has 1,086 cases compared to New York States 22,000+! Massive failure.

#1) People will decide in November

#2) Ever been to NY...people are literally on top of one another. Not the size but the density is what counts. I am not shocked NY got it so bad.

I'm assuming with your statement #2 you've never been to Japan? I've been to both cities and Tokoyo is way more crowded than NY.

Where is Tokoyo?

Google it.

I can only find Tokyo?

 

[Asclepias]

Stop making excuses for the incompetent fuck up. Thats part of leadership. You use your experts and your judgement. All his experts were telling him the exact same thing early in Jan officially. He decided it was a hoax then isnt even leader enough to accept the responsibility of fucking up.

ALL OF HIS EXPERTS? Except those that disagreed, whom you called "idiots". LOL.

I called Drumpf and his supporters idiots. I didnt call the intelligence community idiots.

You called the guy who wrote that article an idiot. Prove he is a Trump supporter

I dont have to prove he is a Drumpf supporter. Not all idiots are Drumpf supportes but all Drumpf supporters are idiots. You should take a course on statistics.

Only Fascists deal in absolutes. You should study the Holocaust or do you deny it happened?

Which Holocaust are you talking about? The one that the Germans did in Africa prior to the one in Germany? Why would I deny either happened? When I was training to be a CNA I took care of two people that were victims of the one in Germany. The one in Africa has been thoroughly documented though many do not know about it.

 

[Asclepias]

#1) Trump is President and when he fails to do the job, you need to let him go.

#2) Japan is 5 times the size of New York State in terms of population, but only has 1,086 cases compared to New York States 22,000+! Massive failure.

#1) People will decide in November

#2) Ever been to NY...people are literally on top of one another. Not the size but the density is what counts. I am not shocked NY got it so bad.

I'm assuming with your statement #2 you've never been to Japan? I've been to both cities and Tokoyo is way more crowded than NY.

Where is Tokoyo?

Google it.

I can only find Tokyo?

Not my fault you cant spell.