I want to know why "pro-choicers" are ghosting my thread about 60 million abortions

[Care4all]

What I find intriguing is that the "pro-choice" people have given me all the usual arguments, but they have no explained why they aren't looking for alternatives to abortion so that so many unborn children don't have to die.

Because you did promise, through Bill Clinton, that abortion would be "rare".

And when I think of the word "rare" I think of a number, maybe less than 1000 abortions per year. That would be "rare". I would not like there to be 1000 abortions per year, but I could live with it.

But we have had 60 million abortions since 1973, which averages to more than 1,000,000 abortions per year.

You have allowed Planned Parenthood to set up clinics where, if a woman goes in to seek advice about whether or not to get an abortion, the clinic worker will "sell" the woman on having an abortion in the same way a car salesman will "sell" a person coming in on buying a new car.

There really should be a neutral involved, don't you think, you can give the woman ALL her options, with no preference shown towards abortion. That would be reasonable, wouldn't it?

But the "pro-choice" movement has OPPOSED any sort of reasonable compromise where women can review their options. The "pro-choice" movement has acted on the notion that a woman should only be presented the option of having an abortion, with other options disfavored.

So really, "pro-choicers" why don't you want women to have a REAL choice?

from president clinton in the 90's till now, we have reduced yearly abortions by 50%, they will likely rise again when you stop having places like planned parenthood, for cheap doctor's appointments and the prescription for birth control pills....

 

[Bo Didleysquat]

All I am seeking is an explanation.

Why was it necessary to kill 60 million people?

Clinton said abortion should be "rare".

But "pro-choicers" have not fulfilled the promise that abortion would be "rare".

Why?

What are conservatives doing to reduce the need for abortions?

Opposing insurance paid birth control
Cutting Medicaid
Reducing childcare payouts
Opposing SNAP

your ignorance knows no bounds,,,

We do it to kids abroad with economic sanctions. Empires always bring it all home in the end.

 

[MeBelle]

Nor I. Ironically, the OP supports fat donnie who's paid for at least 8 abortions for his mistresses.

Wowza!

Got a link for this?

tia

 

[MeBelle]

What are conservatives doing to reduce the need for abortions?

Opposing insurance paid birth control
Cutting Medicaid
Reducing childcare payouts
Opposing SNAP

Your post fails any type of truth.

Shamefully ....

 

[MeBelle]

from president clinton in the 90's till now, we have reduced yearly abortions by 50%, they will likely rise again when you stop having places like planned parenthood, for cheap doctor's appointments and the prescription for birth control pills....

Why do we need PP when ALL of the Obamacare insurance policies REQUIRE FREE BC?

 

[Care4all]

from president clinton in the 90's till now, we have reduced yearly abortions by 50%, they will likely rise again when you stop having places like planned parenthood, for cheap doctor's appointments and the prescription for birth control pills....

Why do we need PP when ALL of the Obamacare insurance policies REQUIRE FREE BC?

Because from my understanding, most Republican governed states refused the Obama care MEDICAID gap, so the working poor in this low income gap, do not get healthcare in Republican governor and legislature states who refused.

And those who did qualify, have no gynecologists that have practices in their areas, other than planned parenthood centers.... with little means to travel out of their neighborhoods to find a Gyno.

 

[progressive hunter]

from president clinton in the 90's till now, we have reduced yearly abortions by 50%, they will likely rise again when you stop having places like planned parenthood, for cheap doctor's appointments and the prescription for birth control pills....

Why do we need PP when ALL of the Obamacare insurance policies REQUIRE FREE BC?

Because from my understanding, most Republican governed states refused the Obama care MEDICAID gap, so the working poor in this low income gap, do not get healthcare in Republican governor and legislature states.

And those who did qualify, have no gynecologists that have practices in their areas, other than planned parenthood centers.... with little means to travel out of their neighborhoods to find a Gyno.

they could always pay for it themselves and dont need to go elsewhere or depend on others for their perosonal reasons,,,

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Can someone please play with Blackrook before his fit goes full-blown hissy?

No!

No one plays with me and tell me I am pretty, so I refuse!

Why the lack of response?

Did you PM multiple moderators and discuss it with them in private or are you just needing the loving words from us deplorables?

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Why the lack of response?

Why should we? You never listen. It's all been said a million times.

Listen to what..............Why late term abortions or abortions at the time of birth should be allowed...........

LOL

I don't think so...........Perhaps you say that is CHOICE..........and perhaps we may CALL YOU A MURDERER..

Why should I listen to those who argue about allowing abortion even at birth..........hmmmm...

You people use the same twisted, inaccurate argument over and over. "Abortion" at birth is an oxymoron. You obviously have no clue what you're talking about. I have looked into it and read actual doctors' explanations of the bill. It is for babies born with fatal deformities who can only live a matter of hours at most and are suffering. If it were your baby, you would rather it be in agony/fear for it's short existence. Doctors SAVE lives; they are not going to kill a viable birth.

Ummm, most do but you have some quacks that enjoy killing...

 

[Care4all]

from president clinton in the 90's till now, we have reduced yearly abortions by 50%, they will likely rise again when you stop having places like planned parenthood, for cheap doctor's appointments and the prescription for birth control pills....

Why do we need PP when ALL of the Obamacare insurance policies REQUIRE FREE BC?

Because from my understanding, most Republican governed states refused the Obama care MEDICAID gap, so the working poor in this low income gap, do not get healthcare in Republican governor and legislature states.

And those who did qualify, have no gynecologists that have practices in their areas, other than planned parenthood centers.... with little means to travel out of their neighborhoods to find a Gyno.

they could always pay for it themselves and dont need to go elsewhere or depend on others for their perosonal reasons,,,

And there you have it..... every one that has healthcare insurance, including those on Obama care, except the poorest in Republican governed states who refused the Medicaid gap coverage....

Gynecologist do not set up doctor's practices in poor neighborhoods... while in a place like Ocala Florida, every other strip center shopping places are strip centers of doctors, every specialist doctor you can imagine..... !!!!

And a Gyno is expensive, even for the middle class!!!!

 

[progressive hunter]

from president clinton in the 90's till now, we have reduced yearly abortions by 50%, they will likely rise again when you stop having places like planned parenthood, for cheap doctor's appointments and the prescription for birth control pills....

Why do we need PP when ALL of the Obamacare insurance policies REQUIRE FREE BC?

Because from my understanding, most Republican governed states refused the Obama care MEDICAID gap, so the working poor in this low income gap, do not get healthcare in Republican governor and legislature states.

And those who did qualify, have no gynecologists that have practices in their areas, other than planned parenthood centers.... with little means to travel out of their neighborhoods to find a Gyno.

they could always pay for it themselves and dont need to go elsewhere or depend on others for their perosonal reasons,,,

And there you have it..... every one that has healthcare insurance, including those on Obama care, except the poorest in Republican governed states who refused the Medicaid gap coverage....

Gynecologist do not set up doctor's practices in poor neighborhoods... while in a place like Ocala Florida, every other strip center shopping places are strip centers of doctors, every specialist doctor you can imagine..... !!!!

And a Gyno is expensive, even for the middle class!!!!

now they have one of two goals ahead of them,,,work harder and pay for it themselves or sit back and wait for others to take care of them,,,

 

[OldLady]

Clinton said abortion should be "safe, legal, and RARE."

Democrats at the convention applauded that line.

But how is 60 million abortions consistent with RARE?

Even Dragon Lady refuses to explain why it was necessary to abort so many millions of babies.

Keep wondering while you support every attempt to gut and stop Planned Parenthood by yanking all the funding you can. Real headscratcher, that is.

 

[eagle1462010]

Why the lack of response?

Why should we? You never listen. It's all been said a million times.

Listen to what..............Why late term abortions or abortions at the time of birth should be allowed...........

LOL

I don't think so...........Perhaps you say that is CHOICE..........and perhaps we may CALL YOU A MURDERER..

Why should I listen to those who argue about allowing abortion even at birth..........hmmmm...

Who on here has done that, other than right wingers claiming such.

And HELLO, the 1% of abortions for most women who end up having late term abortions are mothers who wanted their child and of both parents wanting their , husbands and wives who wanted their child, where a medical situation deems the abortion is medically necessary.

You are being dishonest in your position on abortions with comments like above, just like most right wing pro lifers and that's why most people prefer not to discuss it with you or the op or the rest of you so called prolifers.

The ills of people spouting off nonsense like yours HURTS the goal or quest of reducing abortions...making it a political toy, hurts the cause, period.

AND our yearly abortions have been reduced from our peak in 1990 of 1.6 million, by 50%, to 800k, because many single women have chosen to be single mothers, which has increased greatly in numbers.

We are heading in the right direction...

Making abortion safe, available, but rare...

Coming out of the mother's will... to bear a child, married or not.

That should make prolifers happy.

Until right wingers get the bill for child welfare assistance....

And you are hiding your accountability for SPREADING YOUR LEGS.........

If you don't want to have a baby then use protection, or the guy should use a rubber..............If not .......oh well........YOU ARE ACCOUNTABLE for THAT BABY...........

Now I never said I was against the early abortions........LEGALLY..even though I disagree with it...........I've gone the path of MANY STATES that after the 3rd Trimester it shouldn't be allowed.......by that point the baby is well into development...........and at that point I consider it taking a life......

Unless you are in danger of losing the mother...........that child should have the right to be born and NOT HAVE HIS OR HER LIFE TAKEN.......Because at that point I CONSIDER LIFE TO HAVE BEGUN.

The main argument here is WHEN DOES LIFE BEGIN...........Many Dems say it doesn't begin til it's out........which I DISAGREE WITH.

You have SEX.............protect yourself...............or BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR PUTTING IT IN OR SPREADING THOSE LEGS.

Meanwhile of course- now the anti-abortion folks want to force children who have been raped to go through an entire pregnancy and force them to risk their life and health.
Instead of giving them the morning after pill.

Because many Republicans say that life begins the moment the embryo implants- and that if forcing a child to go through pregnancy and risking her life might- might- result in a living baby- it will be worth it.

Utter Garbage post...........Utter Garbage...

Which part of late term abortions don't you understand....and which States are saying someone Raped can't get an abortion................LOL

Is this your disinformation campaign..........It's Garbage......move along.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Why the lack of response?

You’re not pro-life.

You’re pro-birth.

Deal with it.

 

[mamooth]

What I find intriguing is that the "pro-choice" people have given me all the usual arguments, but they have no explained why they aren't looking for alternatives to abortion so that so many unborn children don't have to die.

As we're the ones pushing birth control and education, your claim there looks delusional and dishonest.

Because you did promise, through Bill Clinton, that abortion would be "rare".

I have no problem with abortion being common. I only want it in "rare" in the same sense that I want tooth extraction to be rare. After all, oral surgery is a lot more dangerous to a woman than early-term abortion is. Any sort of medical procedure with even a slight risk is better off avoided.

You have allowed Planned Parenthood to set up clinics where, if a woman goes in to seek advice about whether or not to get an abortion, the clinic worker will "sell" the woman on having an abortion in the same way a car salesman will "sell" a person coming in on buying a new car.

As I keep pointing out, you seem to enjoy these sick demonization fantasies, because they give you a reason to hate.

There really should be a neutral involved,

Your opinion seems to be that women need someone to tell them they don't have to have an abortion, because that thought would never enter their pretty little heads unless they were lectured on it.

Our opinion is that women aren't morons, so they don't need to be given mandatory state propaganda lectures.

That would be reasonable, wouldn't it?

As you've decided who gets the mandatory counseling sessions, I claim the same right. Every time you make a decision, you'll be required to attend mandatory lectures about all of your options first.

What? You won't accept that idea? Then you're a hypocrite, and nobody should care about your hypocritical babbling.