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I think the COVID-19 lockdown is killing more people than it is saving. Here are my many reasons for thinking such a thing. Updated for March 26, 2021

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Here in Pittsburgh, the public schools are still closed.

In Michigan, they arrested a restaurant owner for opening his restaurant.

Fred. I hate to break this to you. But so far is only a fraction of the damage done by libturds and locking us up

In 3 to 5 yrs the full damage will be known and I tell you it won't be pretty.

The rise in drug use and getting hooked skyrocketed, this damage will take yrs to show.

Adolescent depression.....................OMG what these libturds did to their own children because of TDS.

Business and financial well being lost

One of the greatest tragedies in history was libturd driven Covid

But the violence we will be seeing over time will be breath taking

My biggest problem will be keeping my armchair in great shape watching all this in laughter.......laughing at the libturds
 

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It is true that last year during the early stages of this mess, the virus spread more quickly in environments where people abided by those idiotic “shelter in place” and stay at home orders issued by these Democrat governors.
 

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It is true that last year during the early stages of this mess, the virus spread more quickly in environments where people abided by those idiotic “shelter in place” and stay at home orders issued by these Democrat governors.
No. There was no coordinated message coming from the White House. In fact, if you remember, from January 22 to March 13, 2020, everything was tweets, golfing, and pep rallies...nothing wrong.
"Just one person coming from China. It's under control"...LOL. Until it wasn't.
 

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No. There was no coordinated message coming from the White House. In fact, if you remember, from January 22 to March 13, 2020, everything was tweets, golfing, and pep rallies...nothing wrong.
"Just one person coming from China. It's under control"...LOL. Until it wasn't.
The messaging from the white house wasn’t the issue. Governors issuing stay at home or shelter in place orders and closing down businesses was the issue. The president had nothing to do with that.
 

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I think the COVID-19 lockdown is killing more people than it is saving. Here are my many reasons for thinking such a thing. Updated for March 26, 2021.

By Daniel Alman (aka Dan from Squirrel Hill)


March 26, 2021


I think the COVIOD-19 lockdown is killing more people than it is saving.


I’m going to start out by posting the CDC’s estimated survival rates, by age, for people who contract COVID-19:





Source: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)


0 to 19: 99.997%


20 to 49: 99.98%


50 to 69: 99.5%


70+: 94.6%


For most age groups, the survival rate is quite high. In my opinion, this does not justify a lockdown of the general population.


Now let’s take a look at my many reasons for thinking that the lockdown is killing more people than it is saving:


This study claims that the lockdown is destroying 10 times as many Quality Adjusted Life Years as it is saving:


https://macdonaldlaurier.ca/files/pdf/20201209_Rethinking_lockdowns_Joffe_COMMENTARY_FWeb.pdf


The National Cancer Institute estimates that there could be 10,000 additional breast and colorectal deaths over the next decade as a result of missed screenings and delayed diagnoses


Source: Cancer screenings down nationwide during the COVID-19 pandemic


Cancer surgeries and organ transplants are being put off for coronavirus


Source: Op-Ed: Cancer surgeries and organ transplants are being put off for coronavirus


Higher rates of unemployment correlate very strongly with higher rates of suicide and drug overdoses


Source: How Shutting Down The Economy Could Kill Tens Of Thousands


A report by the United Nations cites the predicted harm that will happen to tens of millions of children in low income countries as a result of the COVID-19 global wide shutdown.


Examples of this harm to children include increases in malnutrition, loss of education, increased rates of teen pregnancy, reduced access to health care, reduced rates of vaccination, increased rates of infectious disease, increased rates of water borne illness, and increased rates of death:


Source: https://unsdg.un.org/sites/default/files/2020-04/160420_Covid_Children_Policy_Brief.pdf


Anxiety from reactions to Covid-19 will destroy at least seven times more years of life than can be saved by lockdowns


Source: Anxiety From Reactions to Covid-19 Will Destroy At Least Seven Times More Years of Life Than Can Be Saved by Lockdowns – Just Facts


Childhood vaccine rates for preventable diseases like measles and whooping cough have fallen during the COVID-19 pandemic, raising the possibility of an additional health crisis.


In New York City… the number of vaccine doses administered from March 23 to May 9 fell 63 percent compared with the same period last year.


In children older than 2 years, it fell 91 percent…


… Doctors offices have been closed…


… The numbers in New York match a national trend…


… from mid-March to mid-April, doctors in the federally funded Vaccines for Children program for the uninsured ordered about 2.5 million fewer doses of all routine non-influenza vaccines and 250,000 fewer doses of measles-containing vaccines compared to the same period in 2019…


Source: Childhood vaccine rates plummet amid coronavirus pandemic, risking new health crisis


Polio and measles could surge after disruption of vaccine programs. A new study of 129 countries found that the interruption of inoculation efforts could put 80 million babies at risk of getting deadly, preventable diseases.


Source: Polio and Measles Could Surge After Disruption of Vaccine Programs


Why most Covid-19 deaths won’t be from the virus


Source: Why most Covid-19 deaths won’t be from the virus


The global lockdown was put into place based on the bogus, false, and extremely inaccurate Imperial College model.


Sweden did not have a lockdown.


Experts, who cited the Imperial College model, predicted that Sweden would have 40,000 COVID-19 deaths by May 1.


The actual number was 2,769.


The same bogus Imperial College model was used to implement the lockdowns for the rest of the world.


Sources: How Sweden suppressed infection rates without a lockdown


Imperial College Model Applied to Sweden Yields Preposterous Results


Nobel Prize-winning scientist: “the damage done by lockdown will exceed any saving of lives by a huge factor”


Source: Nobel Prize-winning scientist shares COVID-19 data showing strict lockdowns were an overreaction


This is a scientific paper called “Full lockdown policies in Western Europe countries have no evident impacts on the COVID-19 epidemic.”


Source: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.24.20078717v1.full.pdf


Do lockdowns save many lives? In most places, the data say no.


Source: https://www.wsj.com/articles/do-loc...data-say-no-11587930911?mod=opinion_lead_pos5


U.S. medical testing, cancer screenings plunge during coronavirus outbreak – data firm analysis


Source: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...rus-outbreak-data-firm-analysis-idUSKCN22A0DY


Some medical experts fear more people are dying from untreated emergencies than from the coronavirus


Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/25/health/coronavirus-heart-stroke.html


How the COVID-19 lockdown will take its own toll on health


Source: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ill-take-its-own-toll-on-health-idUSKBN21L20C


A study of hospitalized COVID-19 patients in New York showed that 66% of them were people who stayed home


Source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisett...ople-staying-at-home-not-traveling-or-working


End all restrictions, they were unnecessary, Hebrew University researchers say


Source: https://www.timesofisrael.com/end-a...nnecessary-hebrew-university-researchers-say/


A scientific paper states:


Background: The pandemic caused by COVID-19 has forced governments to implement strict social mitigation strategies to reduce the morbidity and mortality from acute infections. These strategies however carry a significant risk for mental health which can lead to increased short-term and long-term mortality and is currently not included in modelling the impact of the pandemic. Methods: We used years of life lost (YLL) as the main outcome measure as applied to Switzerland as an exemplar. We focused on suicide, depression, alcohol use disorder, childhood trauma due to domestic violence, changes in marital status and social isolation as these are known to increase YLL in the context of imposed restriction in social contact and freedom of movement. We stipulated a minimum duration of mitigation of 3 months based on current public health plans. Results: The study projects that the average person would suffer 0.205 YLL due to psychosocial consequence of COVID-19 mitigation measures. However, this loss would be entirely borne by 2.1% of the population, who will suffer an average 9.79 YLL. Conclusions: The results presented here are likely to underestimate the true impact of the mitigation strategies on YLL. However, they highlight the need for public health models to expand their scope in order to provide better estimates of the risks and benefits of mitigation.


Source: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.17.20069716v3


In the U.S., the lockdown caused 1.4 million health care workers to be laid off:


Source: https://thehill.com/policy/healthca...ecimated-by-coronavirus-loses-14-million-jobs


Take the Shutdown Skeptics Seriously


Americans should carefully consider the potential costs of prolonged shutdowns lest they cause more deaths or harm to the vulnerable than they spare…


… minimizing the number of COVID-19 deaths today or a month from now or six months from now may or may not minimize the human costs of the pandemic when the full spectrum of human consequences is considered…


… the warnings of thoughtful shutdown skeptics warrant careful study…


Source: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/05/take-shutdown-skeptics-seriously/611419/


Cyril H. Wecht, one of the country’s most well regarded doctors, made this excellent argument against the lockdown


Source: https://www.post-gazette.com/opinio...nd-the-COVID-19-hysteria/stories/202005140031


Stanford University doctor: ‘You are mistaken’ if you think coronavirus lockdowns provide safety”


Source: https://www.theblaze.com/news/stanford-university-doctor-mistaken-coronavirus-lockdowns


Relapses are through the roof, overdoses are through the roof: How the pandemic is upping substance abuse


… They can’t go to a 12-step based meeting…


… People are self-medicating due to the quarantine. And they’re drinking more, and abusing more, and relapses are through the roof right now.


Source: https://thefederalist.com/2020/05/1...f-how-the-pandemic-is-upping-substance-abuse/


Neil Ferguson’s Imperial model “could go down in history as the most devastating software mistake of all time, in terms of economic costs and lives lost”


Source: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technol...ial-model-could-devastating-software-mistake/


Rise in female genital mutilation in Somalia linked to coronavirus shutdown


Somali girls out of school and stuck at home have been subject to a “massive rise” in female genital mutilation…


“It’s a lifetime torture for girls. The pain continues … until the girl goes to the grave. It impacts her education, ambition … everything.”


… the UNFPA has warned that globally 2 million more girls could be cut over the next decade because of how the global pandemic has disrupted efforts to end the practice.


Source: https://web.archive.org/web/2020051....com/nation/2020/05/19/coronavirus-update-us/


More than 500 doctors signed this letter, which is says, “In medical terms, the shutdown was a mass casualty incident.”


Source:

Dr. Mike deBoisblanc, head of the trauma department at John Muir Medical Center in Walnut Creek, California, said, “… we’ve seen a year’s worth of suicide attempts in the last four weeks…”


Source: https://abc7news.com/suicide-covid-19-coronavirus-rates-during-pandemic-death-by/6201962/


Rampant unemployment, isolation and an uncertain future – could lead to 75,000 deaths from drug or alcohol abuse and suicide


Source: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-deaths-suicides-drugs-alcohol-pandemic-75000/


In the U.S., the first nine weeks of the lockdown caused 38 million people to lose their jobs


Source: https://thefederalist.com/2020/05/2...nemployment-last-week-38-million-since-march/


The fatality rate of COVID-19 “would probably be 0.13 percent for people outside nursing homes”


Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/heal...1f9870-9d08-11ea-ad09-8da7ec214672_story.html


A scientific study said, “Home outbreaks were the dominant category (254 of 318 outbreaks; 79.9%)”


Source: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.04.20053058v1.full.pdf


New England Journal of Medicine: “We know that wearing a mask outside health care facilities offers little, if any, protection from infection”


Source: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2006372


Knut Wittkowski, former head of Biostatistics, Epidemiology, and Research Design at The Rockefeller University’s Center for Clinical and Translational Science, said the lockdown “most likely made the situation worse”


Source: https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/05/15/we-could-open-up-again-and-forget-the-whole-thing/


Denmark, Finland say they saw no increase in coronavirus after schools re-opened


Source: https://justthenews.com/world/europ...-increase-coronavirus-after-schools-re-opened


Kanchan Soni, who lived in India, died because the lockdown prevented her from getting dialysis


Source: https://www.newindianexpress.com/ci...is-patient-denied-treatment-dies-2130804.html


Chewing gum, wire-cutters, and superglue: the alarming rise of DIY Dentistry under coronavirus


Source: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/health-...utters-superglue-alarming-rise-diy-dentistry/


A scientific paper on the lockdown states, “In high burden settings, HIV, TB and malaria related deaths over 5 years may be increased by up to 10%, 20% and 36%, respectively”


Source: https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/mrc-gida/2020-05-01-COVID19-Report-19.pdf


Polio and measles could surge after disruption of vaccine programs. A new study of 129 countries found that the interruption of inoculation efforts could put 80 million babies at risk of getting deadly, preventable diseases.


Source: Polio and Measles Could Surge After Disruption of Vaccine Programs


World Health Organization: “If you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with COVID-19”


Source: https://abcnews.go.com/Health/cdc-offer-conflicting-advice-masks-expert-tells-us/story?id=70958380


Reopening schools in Denmark did not worsen outbreak, data shows


Source: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-denmark-reopening-idUSKBN2341N7


One month later: top Israeli mathematician predicted COVID-19 peaks after 40 days with or without economic lockdowns – and he was right!


Source: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...aks-40-days-without-economic-lockdowns-right/


Dr. Kelly Fradin: “I’m a pediatrician and I think we should reopen schools, even with the risk of coronavirus outbreaks”


Source: https://www.insider.com/pediatrician-reopen-schools-even-if-it-leads-coronavirus-outbreaks-2020-6


This video shows Dr. Anthony Fauci removing his mask when he thought he was no longer being filmed




Slowing the coronavirus is speeding the spread of other diseases. Many mass immunization efforts worldwide were halted this spring to prevent spread of the virus at crowded inoculation sites. The consequences have been alarming… cargo flights with vaccine supplies were halted… Now, diphtheria is appearing in Pakistan, Bangladesh and Nepal. Cholera is in South Sudan, Cameroon, Mozambique, Yemen and Bangladesh. A mutated strain of poliovirus has been reported in more than 30 countries. And measles is flaring around the globe, including in Bangladesh, Brazil, Cambodia, Central African Republic, Iraq, Kazakhstan, Nepal, Nigeria and Uzbekistan.


Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/14/health/coronavirus-vaccines-measles.html


Norway health chief: lockdown was not needed to tame Covid


Source: https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/norway-health-chief-lockdown-was-not-needed-to-tame-covid


Antibody tests point to lower death rate for the coronavirus than first thought


Mounting evidence suggests the coronavirus is more common and less deadly than it first appeared.


Source: https://www.npr.org/sections/health...h-rate-for-the-coronavirus-than-first-thought


Coronavirus pandemic could push 122 million to brink of starvation: Oxfam


Source: https://globalnews.ca/news/7155931/coronavirus-starvation-oxfam/


Dr. Dan Wohlgelernter said, “What we needed to do was not lock down all of society. Not shut down schools. Not shut down all businesses. You needed to protect the elderly. Particularly the elderly in the nursing homes. It’s a small segment of our population. We could have allowed the rest of the population to continue with their lives, take adequate precautions but not be completely shut down. The cost of the shut down in terms of the physical, emotional, and psychological health of people is enormous. We’ve only seen the tip of the iceberg of people who have been shut-in. Who’ve lost their businesses. Who are facing depression. Who are facing issues of mental health because of the consequences. This should never happen again. If we ever face this situation again we need to learn the lessons from the mistakes and policies that were implemented.”


Source: https://theohiostar.com/2020/07/01/...and-the-demonization-of-hcq-doctors-tell-all/


People are more likely to contract COVID-19 at home, study finds


Source: https://www.yahoo.com/news/people-more-likely-contract-covid-122611396.html


No known case of teacher catching coronavirus from pupils, says scientist. There has been no recorded case of a teacher catching the coronavirus from a pupil anywhere in the world, according to one of the government’s leading scientific advisers. Mark Woolhouse, a leading epidemiologist and member of the government’s Sage committee, told The Times that it may have been a mistake to close schools in March given the limited role children play in spreading the virus.


Source: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...onavirus-from-pupils-says-scientist-3zk5g2x6z


Coronavirus lockdown ‘made no difference to number of deaths’, study claims


Source: https://www.the-sun.com/news/1190721/coronavirus-lockdown-no-difference/


Stop stealing our children’s youth in the name of their grandparents. Every person I know in his 70s says kids should go back to school. Behind ensuring Americans have food, ensuring our children are well educated is a very close second in societal priorities.


Source: https://thefederalist.com/2020/07/1...rens-youth-in-the-name-of-their-grandparents/


Citing educational risks, scientific panel urges that schools reopen


Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/15/health/coronavirus-schools-reopening.html


Stanford doctor Scott Atlas says the science shows kids should go back to school


Source: https://thefederalist.com/2020/07/1...-science-shows-kids-should-go-back-to-school/


German study finds no evidence coronavirus spreads in schools


Source: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...inds-no-evidence-coronavirus-spreads-schools/


As of September 2020, Sweden, which never had a lockdown, or a mask mandate, had a lower total, cumulative per capita COVID-19 death rate than the U.S.


Sources: https://web.archive.org/web/20200907000001/https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/


https://reason.com/2020/09/11/the-c...sweden-which-now-has-fewer-deaths-per-capita/


https://fortune.com/2020/07/29/no-point-in-wearing-mask-sweden-covid/


https://unherd.com/2020/07/swedens-anders-tegnell-judge-me-in-a-year/


The chief effect of school closures is to hurt students. In St. Paul, Minnesota, where schools have been mostly closed since March, 40 percent of the students are failing this quarter—double the normal rate. In the Dallas public schools, which closed in March and reopened late this fall, recent tests revealed that half of the students have regressed in mathematics since last year, and that’s probably typical of the “learning loss” that will have long-lasting effects on students around the world. Economists at the World Bank estimate that the spring closures will ultimately reduce the affected students’ lifetime earnings by 5 percent—a loss totaling $10 trillion worldwide. Extrapolating from the well-established effects of education and income on life expectancy, another team of researchers calculates that the springtime school closures in the United States will shorten students’ lives by a cumulative total of more than five million years—more years of life than were lost to the pandemic in the spring.


Source: https://www.city-journal.org/bidens-covid-advisors-ignore-high-costs-of-lockdowns


Jay Bhattacharya, Stanford doctor, calls lockdowns the “biggest public health mistake we’ve ever made”


https://www.newsweek.com/stanford-d...-public-health-mistake-weve-ever-made-1574540


Doctors indicate startling rise in child suicide, psychiatric admissions from lockdown


https://elizabethjohnston.org/docto...ric-admissions-amid-ongoing-pandemic-measures


The lockdown made it harder for victims of domestic violence to seek help.


https://www.city-journal.org/lockdowns-and-domestic-violence


Pew Research: Lockdowns prompting devastating levels of ‘psychological distress’ among young people


https://fee.org/articles/pew-resear...of-psychological-distress-among-young-people/


There’s no proof that lockdowns save lives, but plenty of evidence that they end them.


https://www.city-journal.org/death-and-lockdowns


A scientific paper states:


We estimate the size of the COVID-19-relatedunemployment shock to be between 2 and 5 times larger than the typical unemployment shock, depending on race and gender, resulting in a significant increase in mortality rates and drop in life expectancy. We also predict that the shock will disproportionately affect African-Americans and women, over a short horizon, while the effects for white men will unfold over longer horizons. These figures translate in more than 0.8 million additional deaths over the next 15 years.


https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w28304/w28304.pdf


Lockdowns do not control the Coronavirus: The evidence


https://www.aier.org/article/lockdowns-do-not-control-the-coronavirus-the-evidence/


The data shows lockdowns end more lives than they save


https://nypost.com/2021/03/22/the-data-shows-lockdowns-end-more-lives-than-they-save/


Child suicides are rising during lockdown


https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-02-child-suicides-lockdown.html


Escalating suicide rates among school children during COVID-19 pandemic and lockdown period: An alarming psychosocial issue


https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0253717620982514


Child suicides rising during lockdown


https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20210210/child-suicides-rising-during-lockdown


Suicide among children during Covid-19 pandemic: An alarming social issue


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7500342/


Surge of student suicides pushes Las Vegas schools to reopen.


https://web.archive.org/web/2021020...tics/student-suicides-nevada-coronavirus.html


Global rise in childhood mental health issues amid lockdown.


https://abcnews.go.com/Lifestyle/wi...nternational-epidemic-childhood-pain-76409892
TWO choices, try and stop the virus & mutations OR let it run free until it has killed or wounded how ever many it can and burned its self out. That's really all the info you need to decide your choice.
 

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TWO choices, try and stop the virus & mutations OR let it run free until it has killed or wounded how ever many it can and burned its self out. That's really all the info you need to decide your choice.
For a virus that kills approximately 1% of those it infects, and most of those are on death's door anyway? Are you serious? LET 'ER RIP!!!
 

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The messaging from the white house wasn’t the issue. Governors issuing stay at home or shelter in place orders and closing down businesses was the issue. The president had nothing to do with that.
They issued those orders because,

1) From January to March, no guidance was given from the White House on down to federal agencies. Essentially no action was taken. The President was more interested in golfing, tweeting, and holding his pep rallies than he was doing his job. The virus spread like wildfire. Like it or not, leadership in a crisis like this comes from the top down. And the guy at the top...wasn't interested.
2) Therefore, governors (Republican and Democrat), mayors, and business leaders were forced to make difficult decisions in the absence of guidance.

Pretty simple.
 

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For a virus that kills approximately 1% of those it infects, and most of those are on death's door anyway? Are you serious? LET 'ER RIP!!!
Typical 'Conservative'. And the rate of death is about 1.,6%. That figures out to about 5 million dead Americans. So you want to kill five million Americans. Putin loves you. The states that have done the least lockdowns, masking, and vaccinations have the highest per capita rate of death now. But maybe that is all to the good, since most dying now refused the opportunity to get vaccinated. Darwin. Few Trumpanzees in the future.
 

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The messaging from the white house wasn’t the issue. Governors issuing stay at home or shelter in place orders and closing down businesses was the issue. The president had nothing to do with that.
The message from the White House is the very important issue. The bastard could have prevented most of the deaths by not disbanding the measures against pandemics put in place by Presidents Bush and Obama. Then he could have reacted as a sane person and immediately taken the proper measures. He instead told lies he knew were lies, and as a result we have now lost more Americans to Covid than we lost in the Civil War.
 

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Typical 'Conservative'. And the rate of death is about 1.,6%. That figures out to about 5 million dead Americans. So you want to kill five million Americans. Putin loves you. The states that have done the least lockdowns, masking, and vaccinations have the highest per capita rate of death now. But maybe that is all to the good, since most dying now refused the opportunity to get vaccinated. Darwin. Few Trumpanzees in the future.

Okay. If you say so, champ.
 

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The message from the White House is the very important issue. The bastard could have prevented most of the deaths by not disbanding the measures against pandemics put in place by Presidents Bush and Obama. Then he could have reacted as a sane person and immediately taken the proper measures. He instead told lies he knew were lies, and as a result we have now lost more Americans to Covid than we lost in the Civil War.
Nonsense. Changing the name of an organization isn’t disbanding it. Messaging from the White House doesn’t prevent the spread of a virus.
 

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