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I honestly want to know. Why do some of you intelligent, thoughtful and logical people support Biden?

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Nothing is certain in life, except eventual death. Taking the standard precautions has kept my family and I virus free so far, coming up on two years since the initial outbreak.

And I have no problem with that. I got the vaccine, but I would never insist that others do the same. I don't know their medical conditions, I am not a licensed physician to make recommendations, I don't know their religious values. I took the vaccine based on my situation, my doctors recommendations, and my cousin who is a retired research doctor and knows everything about stuff like this.

I know what I did, but it's not my business what others do. That's on them.
 

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I truly would like to understand your thinking.
I have no argument with you regarding Trump being a braggart. A loud mouth. All those adjectives you come up with. But in my 60 years of working with bosses, the few that accomplished anything, i.e. got things done were like Trump! And Trump in 3 years because COVID devoured almost all of 2020 news, lives, etc. got things done!
Attached is a list of things Obama wanted and Biden wanted and some are happening now.
So I'm asking those few of you that look beyond the peccadilloes of Trump. Beyond his bragging, etc. and tell me how has Biden with 47 years of political experiences helped the country?
1) Look at today's gas prices: A year ago nationally $2.152... Today nationally $3.321 a $1.169 increase on 54%!

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Why? look at the attached chart: Obama stopped for all purposes signing and Trump was increasing!
And these are just two charts showing the affect of Obama/Biden on our economy after Trump had done something that hadn't been done for 62 years by other presidents!
The United States Was Energy Independent in 2019 for the First Time Since 1957
So gas prices affect EVERYONE here but the attached sheet shows MORE ways Obama now Biden want to shut down our economy!
Why would any president want companies to go bankrupt? Obama did.
Why would any president want 500,000 people let go from 1,400 companies that pay $100 billion a year in taxes?
Why would any president want 34 million barrels of oil per month floating on the open ocean?
Truly those of you that I mentioned earlier that have some intelligence. Can't you look beyond the petty foibles of Trump and see HE GOT THINGS done in just 3 years! And by the way... some of you that are vaccinated... it was Trump's Operation Warp speed that got the FDA going to start in late 2020 vaccinations. Totally done by Trump!
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No such thing as an intelligent & logical Xiden supporter. Sure some might be intelligent, but said intelligence is countered by their lack of self-awareness, emotions, dependencies and convoluted heads.
 

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The OP said that "Drumpf got things done."

So I'd like to know, what did he get done?

You ask often knowing the information has been provided and you can find it easily. So one has to ask, are you dumb, spineless, ignorant and/or dishonest?

My money says they all fit.
 

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No such thing as an intelligent & logical Xiden supporter. Sure some might be intelligent, but said intelligence is countered by their lack of self-awareness, emotions, dependencies and convoluted heads.

In other words logic. Democrats never had common sense and never will. It's a gift that can't be taught in college.
 

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I truly would like to understand your thinking. ...

I concur with poster Bodecea's contention, Joseph Biden was elected because the majority of USA' voters and their Electoral College electors understood Donald Trump was the presidential alternative.​

The majority of those voters may be honest, and/or intelligent, and/or thoughtful and logical people; but what's certain is they, the majority chose Biden rather than Trump.​

Gas prices seem to be your primary concern. I wonder to what extent you're less concerned regarding other political issues? You contend higher gas prices are entirely due to Democratic policies in general and specifically to Biden's policies while he's been president?​

What gas prices were during different parties' control of the White House and the Congressional chambers is inconsequential unless you can explain causes, effects, and consider the validity of global warming's threat to our nation and the entire world.​

Respectfully, Supposn​

 

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I concur with poster Bodecea's contention, Joseph Biden was elected because the majority of USA' voters and their Electoral College electors understood Donald Trump was the presidential alternative.​

The majority of those voters may be honest, and/or intelligent, and/or thoughtful and logical people; but what's certain is they, the majority chose Biden rather than Trump.​

Gas prices seem to be your primary concern. I wonder to what extent you're less concerned regarding other political issues? You contend higher gas prices are entirely due to Democratic policies in general and specifically to Biden's policies while he's been president?​

What gas prices were during different parties' control of the White House and the Congressional chambers is inconsequential unless you can explain causes, effects, and consider the validity of global warming's threat to our nation and the entire world.​

Respectfully, Supposn​


Fuel prices are controlled by the commodities market. It should be no surprise that when we went from a pro-energy President to an anti-energy President the market would respond accordingly. After all, in the commodities market, fuel is big bucks where you can make a lot, or you can lose a lot.

He and Whorris avoided the question if they would discontinue fracking in the US if elected. If they answered to make their environmentalist friends happy, it would piss off everybody else. If they gave answers that favored most people, it would piss off their environmental friends, so they gave virtually no answer at all.

When they got in they didn't just walk the walk. One of Dementia's first priorities was to close down the Keystone. He then signed an EO banning all new oil exploration and drilling on public lands. When our largest gasoline pipeline was hacked by Russians, he made the statement it's a private industry matter and not a federal one.

The commodities market reacted as expected. Fuel is at the minimum of 30% higher and maximum at 60% higher depending on where you go. Now that talk is out about him closing down the Canadian pipeline to Michigan, it's responding once again. If he actually does close it down, look for $4.00 per gallon very soon.
 
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I concur with poster Bodecea's contention, Joseph Biden was elected because the majority of USA' voters and their Electoral College electors understood Donald Trump was the presidential alternative.​

The majority of those voters may be honest, and/or intelligent, and/or thoughtful and logical people; but what's certain is they, the majority chose Biden rather than Trump.​

Gas prices seem to be your primary concern. I wonder to what extent you're less concerned regarding other political issues? You contend higher gas prices are entirely due to Democratic policies in general and specifically to Biden's policies while he's been president?​

What gas prices were during different parties' control of the White House and the Congressional chambers is inconsequential unless you can explain causes, effects, and consider the validity of global warming's threat to our nation and the entire world.​

Respectfully, Supposn​

Well the fact is that Hillary got the most votes in 2016 but lost the electoral college votes.
The fact is Biden got the most electoral college votes some called "swing states" to win 2020.
Those key states ALSO had a large number of voter fraud votes.
These are the 10 worse states for voter fraud per the below link.
Note the "swing states" Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisc, Arizona were states that voted electoral college are in the 10 worse voter fraud states. FACTS!
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