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I don't like liars.

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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1Kf_0mEoYU]Ben Swann and the Media's NDAA Problem - YouTube[/ame]
 
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we are all everything with limitless potential to infinite evil or good thus we are all liars to some extent.
 

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I like the end of that where he states that the media won't call him on it.

Hell no, they are not going to call him on it, because if the section still stands they may find themselves held indefinitely. Can you blame them?

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it is a little annoying how vehemently and with such conviction that politicians lie though its like their whole job i get the impression... to lie convincingly
 

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I have news for you.

Even if the media did announce it, liberals wouldn't care and still vote for him.

There is nothing obama can do that will lose their support.

Lie about a video
cover up murders
cover up the fact that help was refused
Execute a citizen w/o a trial
wast trillions then laugh about 23 million people being unemployed
$4/gal for gas
lost AAA credit rating
went to another war
on and on
 

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I do. I hate both Obama and Mitt. Neither one is worthy of being president. However... One liar does not make another liar better. The fact that I don't like Obama because he's a liar does not suddenly make Willard a better person or candidate. OR vice versa.

There are other factors other than Honesty. Competence for example. Obama isn't competent, Romney is.

Case closed.
 

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host of Fox knews "reality" check...Reality Check with FOX19's Ben Swann from WXIX Cincinnati - FOX19.com-Cincinnati News, Weather & Sports

And honestly, I don't like a few things that weren't done in the first four years, but a lot did get done, and political capital is pricey stuff. He did address these issues recently during his appearance on the Daily Show with Jon Stewart:

Barack Obama Pt. 2 - The Daily Show with Jon Stewart - 10/18/12 - Video Clip | Comedy Central

You say that you do not like a few things that were not done in the first four years. Can you tell me what you mean by that?

I would have been more impressed if you had said that you did not like a few things that were done.

Things that weren't done... well, we are not completely socialist... yet. We haven't invaded Isreal... yet. Abortion is not required for any pregnant woman who already has one child... yet.

Is there anything that he did do that you do not like?

The topic of this thread is one we should all be concerned about. The ability of a President to incarcerate political opponents... er, "enemies" is one we should all be wary of. And yes, I was opposed to the Patriot Act from the moment the proposal came out. I used to say, "I understand that President Bush says he won't use these abilities against American citizens, but someday we may have someone like Hilary Clinton or Nancy Pelosi in the oval office". The same goes for this section of the NDAA. Did President Obama mean it when he said he would not use it against American citizens? Maybe he won't... but someday a President whether conservative or liberal will and then we have a problem.

Oh and President Obama had an American citizen killed without a trial. I understand that he was a member of Al-Qaeda. As an American citizen he deserved a trial... but Anwar al-Awlaki is as dead as a door knob today. He probably deserved to die but he did in fact deserve a trial first. To me, it is scary to think that we have allowed a President to target an American citizen in that way.

Immie
 
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Then you must hate Mitt Romney.
I do. I hate both Obama and Mitt. Neither one is worthy of being president. However... One liar does not make another liar better. The fact that I don't like Obama because he's a liar does not suddenly make Willard a better person or candidate. OR vice versa.

There are other factors other than Honesty. Competence for example. Obama isn't competent, Romney is.

Case closed.
Competence doesn't mean much to me if I can't trust them to act with honesty and integrity. I understand that you don't feel that way. Ok.
 

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host of Fox knews "reality" check...Reality Check with FOX19's Ben Swann from WXIX Cincinnati - FOX19.com-Cincinnati News, Weather & Sports

And honestly, I don't like a few things that weren't done in the first four years, but a lot did get done, and political capital is pricey stuff. He did address these issues recently during his appearance on the Daily Show with Jon Stewart:

Barack Obama Pt. 2 - The Daily Show with Jon Stewart - 10/18/12 - Video Clip | Comedy Central

You say that you do not like a few things that were not done in the first four years. Can you tell me what you mean by that?

I would have been more impressed if you had said that you did not like a few things that were done.

Things that weren't done... well, we are not completely socialist... yet. We haven't invaded Isreal... yet. Abortion is not required for any pregnant woman who already has one child... yet.

Is there anything that he did do that you do not like?

The topic of this thread is one we should all be concerned about. The ability of a President to incarcerate political opponents... er, "enemies" is one we should all be wary of. And yes, I was opposed to the Patriot Act from the moment the proposal came out. I used to say, "I understand that President Bush says he won't use these abilities against American citizens, but someday we may have someone like Hilary Clinton or Nancy Pelosi in the oval office". The same goes for this section of the NDAA. Did President Obama mean it when he said he would not use it against American citizens? Maybe he won't... but someday a President whether conservative or liberal will and then we have a problem.

Oh and President Obama had an American citizen killed without a trial. I understand that he was a member of Al-Qaeda. As an American citizen he deserved a trial... but Anwar al-Awlaki is as dead as a door knob today. He probably deserved to die but he did in fact deserve a trial first. To me, it is scary to think that we have allowed a President to target an American citizen in that way.

Immie

Maybe you should have watched the video in the link :dunno:

meanwhile, there are several straw men looking for a corn field. You created them, and you're responsible for their well-being,
 

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host of Fox knews "reality" check...Reality Check with FOX19's Ben Swann from WXIX Cincinnati - FOX19.com-Cincinnati News, Weather & Sports

And honestly, I don't like a few things that weren't done in the first four years, but a lot did get done, and political capital is pricey stuff. He did address these issues recently during his appearance on the Daily Show with Jon Stewart:

Barack Obama Pt. 2 - The Daily Show with Jon Stewart - 10/18/12 - Video Clip | Comedy Central

You say that you do not like a few things that were not done in the first four years. Can you tell me what you mean by that?

I would have been more impressed if you had said that you did not like a few things that were done.

Things that weren't done... well, we are not completely socialist... yet. We haven't invaded Isreal... yet. Abortion is not required for any pregnant woman who already has one child... yet.

Is there anything that he did do that you do not like?

The topic of this thread is one we should all be concerned about. The ability of a President to incarcerate political opponents... er, "enemies" is one we should all be wary of. And yes, I was opposed to the Patriot Act from the moment the proposal came out. I used to say, "I understand that President Bush says he won't use these abilities against American citizens, but someday we may have someone like Hilary Clinton or Nancy Pelosi in the oval office". The same goes for this section of the NDAA. Did President Obama mean it when he said he would not use it against American citizens? Maybe he won't... but someday a President whether conservative or liberal will and then we have a problem.

Oh and President Obama had an American citizen killed without a trial. I understand that he was a member of Al-Qaeda. As an American citizen he deserved a trial... but Anwar al-Awlaki is as dead as a door knob today. He probably deserved to die but he did in fact deserve a trial first. To me, it is scary to think that we have allowed a President to target an American citizen in that way.

Immie

Maybe you should have watched the video in the link :dunno:

meanwhile, there are several straw men looking for a corn field. You created them, and you're responsible for their well-being,

I notice you won't answer the question. I will take it as a no, there is nothing that he did that you do not adore.

Immie
 

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