I am of two minds on the coming election.....

[PredFan]

I think dems are betting on election fraud using the mail-in ballots

Maybe they have no choice

If Joe and Jill refuse to bow out they cant make him quit

Could be, but the cheating they will have to do is going to be a lot more obvious now. It will result in far more votes than actual voters.

 

[Mac-7]

Could be, but the cheating they will have to do is going to be a lot more obvious now. It will result in far more votes than actual voters.

Dont underestimate democrats willingness and ability to cheat

They will give it everything they have

 

[CrusaderFrank]

......and I can't decide for sure which scenario will play out.

On the one hand, the Democrats (and the RINOs) simply cannot allow Trump to win. Too much is at stake; the exposure of their corruption, Epstien's list, reversal of their policies on the border and illegals, losing the chance to pack the SCOTUS, and exposure and end of their money laundering scheme in the Ukraine. They have to cheat again and they are going to have to cheat big. That's not a huge problem since they got away with it before they simply have to squash dissent like they did before. The January 6th kangaroo trials should squash all attempts from Trump supporters to do more than complain. Seems to me like a solid plan. it would allow things to go on as they have been.

It answers the question of why they haven't replaced Joe biden as the nominee. It doesn't matter how senile and incompetent he is. It also prevents Trump from going to not going to jail and having the time to appeal that ridiculous NY court case. they remain in power, trump goes to jail, and they pack the court, eliminate the 2A and much of the 1st A. Win-win for them.

On the other hand, they could do nothing and allow trump to win the election. Then they can foment massive rioting and unrest, the remaining Democrats will obstruct everything, the media will promote unrest and violence to the point where by the time the mid-terms come around, the people will just want it all to stop. The democrats will blame trump and promise to bring everything back to "normal" as soon as we give them power. The rioting won't stop up to the 2028 election and they will tell Americans that they will stop it. it's all trumps fault. The advantage of this will be that they will say "In order for this to stop, yu must give us the White House so we have can put laws into place that will quell the rioting, and that will give them the power to remove most of our Constitutional rights. Another win-win.

It also answers the question of why they haven't gotten rid of Biden on the 2024 ticket. It will not only give them the power to pack the SCOTUS, but the excuses to eliminate much of our constitutional rights. This scenario does allow Trump to avoid prison temporarily but they will end up with much more power at the end of it than from the first scenario. The left is already talking about resistance. Already talking about ways to thwart Trump's plans for his 2nd term. That makes this scenario seem much more likely.

6 more months to find out.

The WEF is trapped like Hitler in the bunker, they're losing all over the world

In fact, most of the WEFers are actually building bunkers

 

[Godboy]

Don't be silly. The Dems will not pull a MAGA j6 stupidity.

You guys rioted in 2016 when he won, retard.

Tens of Thousands Protest Trump Election Victory, 124 Arrested

Protests across the country the day after the election.

abcnews.go.com

 

[PredFan]

Recent events favor my 2nd scenario, in which the left gives up this coming election in order to cause as much chaos as possible. When Trump wins, you will see riots and chaos from the left that will be unprecedented in American History. Their goal will be to conduct 4 years of chaos, blame it all on Trump, and tell America that if we elect them, it will stop.

This will benefit them in two ways, 1, they will win complete control of the government, and 2. will remove most of our constitutional rights so that we can never challenge them again.

I don't think that they can even cheat enough to overcome a Trump win.

 

[JWBooth]

Recent events favor my 2nd scenario, in which the left gives up this coming election in order to cause as much chaos as possible. When Trump wins, you will see riots and chaos from the left that will be unprecedented in American History. Their goal will be to conduct 4 years of chaos, blame it all on Trump, and tell America that if we elect them, it will stop.

This will benefit them in two ways, 1, they will win complete control of the government, and 2. will remove most of our constitutional rights so that we can never challenge them again.

I don't think that they can even cheat enough to overcome a Trump win.

I hope they do.

 

[PredFan]

Update here:

10-01-2024 It seems more and more that my latter theory is more likely. Biden and by proxy Harris are going to at the very least lose Georgia and North Carolina due to the lackluster response to the hurricane. One would think that especially in two states that are considered swing states, they would concentrate their relief, but Biden/Harris says, "Yeah, we can't do anything more".

The powers that be in the liberal elite behind the scenes, is OK with losing this election. Then they can plan utter chaos and blame it on Trump with the goal of offering themselves as a cure for the violence that of course, they created. I also believe that behind the scenes, they believe that the economy is so far ruined that even Trump can't fix it in only 4 years. This way they won't have to take any blame for the chaos and suffering that they are causing and can swoop in in 4 years claiming to be the ones to save the country.

Have I abandoned the other theory that they are simply going to cheat again? Not entirely because at this point they claim that the race is close so Trump losing wouldn't be so far fetched in the minds of the gullible, despite the massive cheating it might take to ensure that she wins.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The blue did not cheat before.

The fed is making a massive effort in GA and NC.

You need to deal in reality, pred fan.

 

[Pellinore]

Update here:

10-01-2024 It seems more and more that my latter theory is more likely. Biden and by proxy Harris are going to at the very least lose Georgia and North Carolina due to the lackluster response to the hurricane. One would think that especially in two states that are considered swing states, they would concentrate their relief, but Biden/Harris says, "Yeah, we can't do anything more".

The powers that be in the liberal elite behind the scenes, is OK with losing this election. Then they can plan utter chaos and blame it on Trump with the goal of offering themselves as a cure for the violence that of course, they created. I also believe that behind the scenes, they believe that the economy is so far ruined that even Trump can't fix it in only 4 years. This way they won't have to take any blame for the chaos and suffering that they are causing and can swoop in in 4 years claiming to be the ones to save the country.

Have I abandoned the other theory that they are simply going to cheat again? Not entirely because at this point they claim that the race is close so Trump losing wouldn't be so far fetched in the minds of the gullible, despite the massive cheating it might take to ensure that she wins.

Have you considered the possibility that Harris might simply win? Without cheating, I mean.

If that happens, do you think there will be a widespread movement to accuse the Democrats of cheating, even though they didn't?

What do you think the effect of that movement might be?

 

[PredFan]

Have you considered the possibility that Harris might simply win? Without cheating, I mean.

Yes, but I see nothing that indicates that possibility.

If that happens, do you think there will be a widespread movement to accuse the Democrats of cheating, even though they didn't?

You're asking the question assuming that they didn't.

What do you think the effect of that movement might be?

The only effect will be that everyone will know without a doubt that our elections are rigged.

My opinion on cheating could change, if there weren't' so many indicators that she's a bad candidate.

 

[PredFan]

The blue did not cheat before.

All evidence to the contrary.

The fed is making a massive effort in GA and NC.

Not according to the people there. Neither Biden or Harris nave even bothered to show up.

You need to deal in reality, pred fan.

How ironic.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

PredFan ignores that the election last time was clean: his opinion does not match reality.

Kamala smacked Donald in the debate: PredFan's opinion does not match reality.

 

[hadit]

PredFan ignores that the election last time was clean: his opinion does not match reality.

Yes, TRUMP! made sure of that.

 

[Sparker]

The Democrats are now the more corporate party. Before they issue marching orders, the bosses will calculate how much rioting they can afford.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

^^^ idiotic remark

 

[PredFan]

PredFan ignores that the election last time was clean: his opinion does not match reality.

Kamala smacked Donald in the debate: PredFan's opinion does not match reality.

Let me correct that for you:

"PredFan ignores my opinion that the election was clean: his opinion does not match my reality."

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Let me correct that for you:

"PredFan ignores my opinion that the election was clean: his opinion does not match my reality."

PredFan's opinion contradicts facts and reality, thus it does not matter.

 

[surada]

......and I can't decide for sure which scenario will play out.

On the one hand, the Democrats (and the RINOs) simply cannot allow Trump to win. Too much is at stake; the exposure of their corruption, Epstien's list, reversal of their policies on the border and illegals, losing the chance to pack the SCOTUS, and exposure and end of their money laundering scheme in the Ukraine. They have to cheat again and they are going to have to cheat big. That's not a huge problem since they got away with it before they simply have to squash dissent like they did before. The January 6th kangaroo trials should squash all attempts from Trump supporters to do more than complain. Seems to me like a solid plan. it would allow things to go on as they have been.

It answers the question of why they haven't replaced Joe biden as the nominee. It doesn't matter how senile and incompetent he is. It also prevents Trump from going to not going to jail and having the time to appeal that ridiculous NY court case. they remain in power, trump goes to jail, and they pack the court, eliminate the 2A and much of the 1st A. Win-win for them.

On the other hand, they could do nothing and allow trump to win the election. Then they can foment massive rioting and unrest, the remaining Democrats will obstruct everything, the media will promote unrest and violence to the point where by the time the mid-terms come around, the people will just want it all to stop. The democrats will blame trump and promise to bring everything back to "normal" as soon as we give them power. The rioting won't stop up to the 2028 election and they will tell Americans that they will stop it. it's all trumps fault. The advantage of this will be that they will say "In order for this to stop, yu must give us the White House so we have can put laws into place that will quell the rioting, and that will give them the power to remove most of our Constitutional rights. Another win-win.

It also answers the question of why they haven't gotten rid of Biden on the 2024 ticket. It will not only give them the power to pack the SCOTUS, but the excuses to eliminate much of our constitutional rights. This scenario does allow Trump to avoid prison temporarily but they will end up with much more power at the end of it than from the first scenario. The left is already talking about resistance. Already talking about ways to thwart Trump's plans for his 2nd term. That makes this scenario seem much more likely.

6 more months to find out.

What money laundering scheme? Did you just make that up? The only money laundering scheme that has evidence (that I know of) is at Trump Casinos. He paid a whopper of a fine when he got caught.

 

[surada]

Some left wing nut organization sent me a questionnaire and asked for a donation, they included a free bumper sticker with a donkey on it and it said "RESIST!". I think if Trump wins, they are planning to raise hell.

Probably not. The protests a few years ago was about police brutality. Remember? Trump encouraged it just as he's doing now.

The whole stolen election garbage is in Trump's head. In 2016 he claimed 3-5 million illegals voted.

Don't you hate his attempts to manipulate people? He says he loves the uneducated.

Hitler had the same strategy. He shut down 90% of the newspapers, purged the government of Socialists, Communists, Jews and Democrats and went after anyone with an education like clergy, professors, lawyers etc.

 

[jwoodie]

Let me correct that for you:

"PredFan ignores my opinion that the election was clean: his opinion does not match my reality."

Why bother replying to these trolls?