How To Stop The Virus

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From Epoch Times...


"Yet there is a relatively simple way to halt the spread of the coronavirus fairly rapidly—or at least on a pace we can control. The solution to the coronavirus problem is to test everyone, and then for people who are infected to self-isolate."


"This solution was demonstrated on a small scale in study reported a few days ago in The Guardian. Researchers at the University of Padua tested all 3,300 residents of the Italian town of Vò and separated those carrying the virus—both symptomatic and asymptomatic—from those who were virus free. Transmission stopped "immediately.

But...Can we actually tess 350,000,000?

"Could we test all 329,425,643 men, women, and children in the United States? It sounds like a tall order, but it’s not much different than taking the census, and the only bodily fluid needed is a small amount of nasal mucus (yes: snot). Because of economies of scale, the per unit cost of 300 million tests will likely be less than a dime, but even if, taking administrative costs and the usual inefficiencies into account, the total cost of each test turns out to be $20, the $6.5 billion price tag for Universal Coronavirus Testing will still be $600 million less than we’ll be spending this year alone on the census."
 
This actually makes a ton of sense, whatever the practicality is or isn't. I've been telling people about this town in Italy that demonstrated up to half of people actually carrying the virus may show no symptoms at all themselves, which makes them free to roam around being silent carriers, and nobody knows it. That town eradicated CV by testing literally everybody and then isolating the silent carriers, thus starving the virus of new fields to populate.

Iceland's testing found the same thing.

This is why the health experts keep emphasizing, testing, testing, and more testing. As long as we, or Italy, or anybody else, is only testing those with symptoms, we're missing these silent carriers and failing to stop the spread.
 
From Epoch Times...


"Yet there is a relatively simple way to halt the spread of the coronavirus fairly rapidly—or at least on a pace we can control. The solution to the coronavirus problem is to test everyone, and then for people who are infected to self-isolate."


"This solution was demonstrated on a small scale in study reported a few days ago in The Guardian. Researchers at the University of Padua tested all 3,300 residents of the Italian town of Vò and separated those carrying the virus—both symptomatic and asymptomatic—from those who were virus free. Transmission stopped "immediately.

But...Can we actually tess 350,000,000?

"Could we test all 329,425,643 men, women, and children in the United States? It sounds like a tall order, but it’s not much different than taking the census, and the only bodily fluid needed is a small amount of nasal mucus (yes: snot). Because of economies of scale, the per unit cost of 300 million tests will likely be less than a dime, but even if, taking administrative costs and the usual inefficiencies into account, the total cost of each test turns out to be $20, the $6.5 billion price tag for Universal Coronavirus Testing will still be $600 million less than we’ll be spending this year alone on the census."

We can try testing but it is harder than you think with rural people and those that are undocumented or out of status in this country.

Ideally the right move is to test everyone but to do it is nearly impossible...
 
From Epoch Times...


"Yet there is a relatively simple way to halt the spread of the coronavirus fairly rapidly—or at least on a pace we can control. The solution to the coronavirus problem is to test everyone, and then for people who are infected to self-isolate."


"This solution was demonstrated on a small scale in study reported a few days ago in The Guardian. Researchers at the University of Padua tested all 3,300 residents of the Italian town of Vò and separated those carrying the virus—both symptomatic and asymptomatic—from those who were virus free. Transmission stopped "immediately.

But...Can we actually tess 350,000,000?

"Could we test all 329,425,643 men, women, and children in the United States? It sounds like a tall order, but it’s not much different than taking the census, and the only bodily fluid needed is a small amount of nasal mucus (yes: snot). Because of economies of scale, the per unit cost of 300 million tests will likely be less than a dime, but even if, taking administrative costs and the usual inefficiencies into account, the total cost of each test turns out to be $20, the $6.5 billion price tag for Universal Coronavirus Testing will still be $600 million less than we’ll be spending this year alone on the census."
I heard Germany is looking into that. Those who’ve recovered are immune and get a golden ticket to move about the cabin freely.
 
This actually makes a ton of sense, whatever the practicality is or isn't. I've been telling people about this town in Italy that demonstrated up to half of people actually carrying the virus may show no symptoms at all themselves, which makes them free to roam around being silent carriers, and nobody knows it. That town eradicated CV by testing literally everybody and then isolating the silent carriers, thus starving the virus of new fields to populate.

Iceland's testing found the same thing.

This is why the health experts keep emphasizing, testing, testing, and more testing. As long as we, or Italy, or anybody else, is only testing those with symptoms, we're missing these silent carriers and failing to stop the spread.

You are correct we are missing the asymptomatic carriers aka Typhoid Marry population.

This is the true hidden danger no one is truly understanding and for once if we want to slow or stop this spread we must test everyone but alas it will be nearly impossible seeing some of the population will refuse out of fear of their Status being known or out of ignorance...
 
From Epoch Times...


"Yet there is a relatively simple way to halt the spread of the coronavirus fairly rapidly—or at least on a pace we can control. The solution to the coronavirus problem is to test everyone, and then for people who are infected to self-isolate."


"This solution was demonstrated on a small scale in study reported a few days ago in The Guardian. Researchers at the University of Padua tested all 3,300 residents of the Italian town of Vò and separated those carrying the virus—both symptomatic and asymptomatic—from those who were virus free. Transmission stopped "immediately.

But...Can we actually tess 350,000,000?

"Could we test all 329,425,643 men, women, and children in the United States? It sounds like a tall order, but it’s not much different than taking the census, and the only bodily fluid needed is a small amount of nasal mucus (yes: snot). Because of economies of scale, the per unit cost of 300 million tests will likely be less than a dime, but even if, taking administrative costs and the usual inefficiencies into account, the total cost of each test turns out to be $20, the $6.5 billion price tag for Universal Coronavirus Testing will still be $600 million less than we’ll be spending this year alone on the census."
I heard Germany is looking into that. Those who’ve recovered are immune and get a golden ticket to move about the cabin freely.
Also, with the advent of treatments like Hydrooxychloroquine (sp?) Those who test positive should be able to get a doctor to prescribe the appropriate drugs.
 
From Epoch Times...


"Yet there is a relatively simple way to halt the spread of the coronavirus fairly rapidly—or at least on a pace we can control. The solution to the coronavirus problem is to test everyone, and then for people who are infected to self-isolate."


"This solution was demonstrated on a small scale in study reported a few days ago in The Guardian. Researchers at the University of Padua tested all 3,300 residents of the Italian town of Vò and separated those carrying the virus—both symptomatic and asymptomatic—from those who were virus free. Transmission stopped "immediately.

But...Can we actually tess 350,000,000?

"Could we test all 329,425,643 men, women, and children in the United States? It sounds like a tall order, but it’s not much different than taking the census, and the only bodily fluid needed is a small amount of nasal mucus (yes: snot). Because of economies of scale, the per unit cost of 300 million tests will likely be less than a dime, but even if, taking administrative costs and the usual inefficiencies into account, the total cost of each test turns out to be $20, the $6.5 billion price tag for Universal Coronavirus Testing will still be $600 million less than we’ll be spending this year alone on the census."

We can try testing but it is harder than you think with rural people and those that are undocumented or out of status in this country.

Ideally the right move is to test everyone but to do it is nearly impossible...
Self tests can be deployed in rural areas. I live in a rural area and there is a local medical clinic. I don't think it's as hard as it seems. That being said, we know that the areas with the highest population density have the most cases. It might be easier to start there with these self testing kits. Also, self testing precludes the need for medical professionals to constantly change PPE.
 
From Epoch Times...


"Yet there is a relatively simple way to halt the spread of the coronavirus fairly rapidly—or at least on a pace we can control. The solution to the coronavirus problem is to test everyone, and then for people who are infected to self-isolate."


"This solution was demonstrated on a small scale in study reported a few days ago in The Guardian. Researchers at the University of Padua tested all 3,300 residents of the Italian town of Vò and separated those carrying the virus—both symptomatic and asymptomatic—from those who were virus free. Transmission stopped "immediately.

But...Can we actually tess 350,000,000?

"Could we test all 329,425,643 men, women, and children in the United States? It sounds like a tall order, but it’s not much different than taking the census, and the only bodily fluid needed is a small amount of nasal mucus (yes: snot). Because of economies of scale, the per unit cost of 300 million tests will likely be less than a dime, but even if, taking administrative costs and the usual inefficiencies into account, the total cost of each test turns out to be $20, the $6.5 billion price tag for Universal Coronavirus Testing will still be $600 million less than we’ll be spending this year alone on the census."

We can try testing but it is harder than you think with rural people and those that are undocumented or out of status in this country.

Ideally the right move is to test everyone but to do it is nearly impossible...
Self tests can be deployed in rural areas. I live in a rural area and there is a local medical clinic. I don't think it's as hard as it seems. That being said, we know that the areas with the highest population density have the most cases. It might be easier to start there with these self testing kits. Also, self testing precludes the need for medical professionals to constantly change PPE.

I am not against the idea but how do you get those that are illegally here or out of status to comply?
 
This actually makes a ton of sense, whatever the practicality is or isn't. I've been telling people about this town in Italy that demonstrated up to half of people actually carrying the virus may show no symptoms at all themselves, which makes them free to roam around being silent carriers, and nobody knows it. That town eradicated CV by testing literally everybody and then isolating the silent carriers, thus starving the virus of new fields to populate.

Iceland's testing found the same thing.

This is why the health experts keep emphasizing, testing, testing, and more testing. As long as we, or Italy, or anybody else, is only testing those with symptoms, we're missing these silent carriers and failing to stop the spread.
Yes, right now when one goes out to shopping, etc. there is no way of knowing if you are encountering infected people that could be carriers. With testing we'd at least have some sense that MOST people encountered in public are virus free. I also think that testing should be adequate enough to provide multiple tests because of the incubation period of the virus.
 
From Epoch Times...


"Yet there is a relatively simple way to halt the spread of the coronavirus fairly rapidly—or at least on a pace we can control. The solution to the coronavirus problem is to test everyone, and then for people who are infected to self-isolate."


"This solution was demonstrated on a small scale in study reported a few days ago in The Guardian. Researchers at the University of Padua tested all 3,300 residents of the Italian town of Vò and separated those carrying the virus—both symptomatic and asymptomatic—from those who were virus free. Transmission stopped "immediately.

But...Can we actually tess 350,000,000?

"Could we test all 329,425,643 men, women, and children in the United States? It sounds like a tall order, but it’s not much different than taking the census, and the only bodily fluid needed is a small amount of nasal mucus (yes: snot). Because of economies of scale, the per unit cost of 300 million tests will likely be less than a dime, but even if, taking administrative costs and the usual inefficiencies into account, the total cost of each test turns out to be $20, the $6.5 billion price tag for Universal Coronavirus Testing will still be $600 million less than we’ll be spending this year alone on the census."

We can try testing but it is harder than you think with rural people and those that are undocumented or out of status in this country.

Ideally the right move is to test everyone but to do it is nearly impossible...
Self tests can be deployed in rural areas. I live in a rural area and there is a local medical clinic. I don't think it's as hard as it seems. That being said, we know that the areas with the highest population density have the most cases. It might be easier to start there with these self testing kits. Also, self testing precludes the need for medical professionals to constantly change PPE.

I am not against the idea but how do you get those that are illegally here or out of status to comply?
Provide blind tests. Give them a number. But then, who knows if an illegal will even give a shit? Best advice. stay away from sanctuary cities.
 
From Epoch Times...


"Yet there is a relatively simple way to halt the spread of the coronavirus fairly rapidly—or at least on a pace we can control. The solution to the coronavirus problem is to test everyone, and then for people who are infected to self-isolate."


"This solution was demonstrated on a small scale in study reported a few days ago in The Guardian. Researchers at the University of Padua tested all 3,300 residents of the Italian town of Vò and separated those carrying the virus—both symptomatic and asymptomatic—from those who were virus free. Transmission stopped "immediately.

But...Can we actually tess 350,000,000?

"Could we test all 329,425,643 men, women, and children in the United States? It sounds like a tall order, but it’s not much different than taking the census, and the only bodily fluid needed is a small amount of nasal mucus (yes: snot). Because of economies of scale, the per unit cost of 300 million tests will likely be less than a dime, but even if, taking administrative costs and the usual inefficiencies into account, the total cost of each test turns out to be $20, the $6.5 billion price tag for Universal Coronavirus Testing will still be $600 million less than we’ll be spending this year alone on the census."

We can try testing but it is harder than you think with rural people and those that are undocumented or out of status in this country.

Ideally the right move is to test everyone but to do it is nearly impossible...
Self tests can be deployed in rural areas. I live in a rural area and there is a local medical clinic. I don't think it's as hard as it seems. That being said, we know that the areas with the highest population density have the most cases. It might be easier to start there with these self testing kits. Also, self testing precludes the need for medical professionals to constantly change PPE.

I am not against the idea but how do you get those that are illegally here or out of status to comply?
Provide blind tests. Give them a number. But then, who knows if an illegal will even give a shit? Best advice. stay away from sanctuary cities.

I live in Texas, so that is impossible...

I commute to Houston daily and deal with Clinics and influx of patients and staff that are from around the world and every social class.

So it is impossible not to interact with them or avoid hot zones.

Again, I agree testing should be done but if we do not do it to everyone then millions will go on being possible carriers.
 
From Epoch Times...


"Yet there is a relatively simple way to halt the spread of the coronavirus fairly rapidly—or at least on a pace we can control. The solution to the coronavirus problem is to test everyone, and then for people who are infected to self-isolate."


"This solution was demonstrated on a small scale in study reported a few days ago in The Guardian. Researchers at the University of Padua tested all 3,300 residents of the Italian town of Vò and separated those carrying the virus—both symptomatic and asymptomatic—from those who were virus free. Transmission stopped "immediately.

But...Can we actually tess 350,000,000?

"Could we test all 329,425,643 men, women, and children in the United States? It sounds like a tall order, but it’s not much different than taking the census, and the only bodily fluid needed is a small amount of nasal mucus (yes: snot). Because of economies of scale, the per unit cost of 300 million tests will likely be less than a dime, but even if, taking administrative costs and the usual inefficiencies into account, the total cost of each test turns out to be $20, the $6.5 billion price tag for Universal Coronavirus Testing will still be $600 million less than we’ll be spending this year alone on the census."
I heard Germany is looking into that. Those who’ve recovered are immune and get a golden ticket to move about the cabin freely.
Also the ones that get it and recover can carry the virus however, as one doctor I heard said, the virus in a body that has fought it off is much less virulent and can contribute to 'herd immunity' in the population. Look, this stuff has been known for years there have been studies that kids basically playing in dirt develop strong immune systems and, in fact, the yearly flu shot is supposed to do just that, strengthen one's immune system to that particular virus. We just don't have that covid shot yet.

Sorry to prattle on but, one also has to consider that we do not have an adequate population of data to make a reliable statistical analysis of the total population and how many actually have the virus. The ONLY data we have are those that have been diagnosed versus those who have died from it. There is not enough data to make a reliable statistical analysis.
 
This actually makes a ton of sense, whatever the practicality is or isn't. I've been telling people about this town in Italy that demonstrated up to half of people actually carrying the virus may show no symptoms at all themselves, which makes them free to roam around being silent carriers, and nobody knows it. That town eradicated CV by testing literally everybody and then isolating the silent carriers, thus starving the virus of new fields to populate.

Iceland's testing found the same thing.

This is why the health experts keep emphasizing, testing, testing, and more testing. As long as we, or Italy, or anybody else, is only testing those with symptoms, we're missing these silent carriers and failing to stop the spread.
Good points. Also, we really don't know the infection to death ratio. We only know the ratio of cases diagnosed (those that present symptoms) and those that succumb. Also, as I said in another post, carriers that have fought off the virus can act as immune boosters as in 'herd immunity.'
 
From Epoch Times...


"Yet there is a relatively simple way to halt the spread of the coronavirus fairly rapidly—or at least on a pace we can control. The solution to the coronavirus problem is to test everyone, and then for people who are infected to self-isolate."


"This solution was demonstrated on a small scale in study reported a few days ago in The Guardian. Researchers at the University of Padua tested all 3,300 residents of the Italian town of Vò and separated those carrying the virus—both symptomatic and asymptomatic—from those who were virus free. Transmission stopped "immediately.

But...Can we actually tess 350,000,000?

"Could we test all 329,425,643 men, women, and children in the United States? It sounds like a tall order, but it’s not much different than taking the census, and the only bodily fluid needed is a small amount of nasal mucus (yes: snot). Because of economies of scale, the per unit cost of 300 million tests will likely be less than a dime, but even if, taking administrative costs and the usual inefficiencies into account, the total cost of each test turns out to be $20, the $6.5 billion price tag for Universal Coronavirus Testing will still be $600 million less than we’ll be spending this year alone on the census."

We can try testing but it is harder than you think with rural people and those that are undocumented or out of status in this country.

Ideally the right move is to test everyone but to do it is nearly impossible...
Self tests can be deployed in rural areas. I live in a rural area and there is a local medical clinic. I don't think it's as hard as it seems. That being said, we know that the areas with the highest population density have the most cases. It might be easier to start there with these self testing kits. Also, self testing precludes the need for medical professionals to constantly change PPE.

I am not against the idea but how do you get those that are illegally here or out of status to comply?
Provide blind tests. Give them a number. But then, who knows if an illegal will even give a shit? Best advice. stay away from sanctuary cities.

I live in Texas, so that is impossible...

I commute to Houston daily and deal with Clinics and influx of patients and staff that are from around the world and every social class.

So it is impossible not to interact with them or avoid hot zones.

Again, I agree testing should be done but if we do not do it to everyone then millions will go on being possible carriers.
I hear ya. I would carry hand sanitizer and try to stop myself from touching my own face. Also beware of closed spaces with multiple individuals. One doctor said a 15 to 20 minute exposure in a closed area with other people can promote aerial transmission. Other than that, the way most transmission is accomplished is hand-to-face. It is very hard to limit one's hand to face movements but, I think, worth a try.
 
From Epoch Times...


"Yet there is a relatively simple way to halt the spread of the coronavirus fairly rapidly—or at least on a pace we can control. The solution to the coronavirus problem is to test everyone, and then for people who are infected to self-isolate."


"This solution was demonstrated on a small scale in study reported a few days ago in The Guardian. Researchers at the University of Padua tested all 3,300 residents of the Italian town of Vò and separated those carrying the virus—both symptomatic and asymptomatic—from those who were virus free. Transmission stopped "immediately.

But...Can we actually tess 350,000,000?

"Could we test all 329,425,643 men, women, and children in the United States? It sounds like a tall order, but it’s not much different than taking the census, and the only bodily fluid needed is a small amount of nasal mucus (yes: snot). Because of economies of scale, the per unit cost of 300 million tests will likely be less than a dime, but even if, taking administrative costs and the usual inefficiencies into account, the total cost of each test turns out to be $20, the $6.5 billion price tag for Universal Coronavirus Testing will still be $600 million less than we’ll be spending this year alone on the census."

We can try testing but it is harder than you think with rural people and those that are undocumented or out of status in this country.

Ideally the right move is to test everyone but to do it is nearly impossible...
Self tests can be deployed in rural areas. I live in a rural area and there is a local medical clinic. I don't think it's as hard as it seems. That being said, we know that the areas with the highest population density have the most cases. It might be easier to start there with these self testing kits. Also, self testing precludes the need for medical professionals to constantly change PPE.

I am not against the idea but how do you get those that are illegally here or out of status to comply?
Provide blind tests. Give them a number. But then, who knows if an illegal will even give a shit? Best advice. stay away from sanctuary cities.

I live in Texas, so that is impossible...

I commute to Houston daily and deal with Clinics and influx of patients and staff that are from around the world and every social class.

So it is impossible not to interact with them or avoid hot zones.

Again, I agree testing should be done but if we do not do it to everyone then millions will go on being possible carriers.
I hear ya. I would carry hand sanitizer and try to stop myself from touching my own face. Also beware of closed spaces with multiple individuals. One doctor said a 15 to 20 minute exposure in a closed area with other people can promote aerial transmission. Other than that, the way most transmission is accomplished is hand-to-face. It is very hard to limit one's hand to face movements but, I think, worth a try. The doctor advised to become a "hand-wash Nazi"....LOL
 
This actually makes a ton of sense, whatever the practicality is or isn't. I've been telling people about this town in Italy that demonstrated up to half of people actually carrying the virus may show no symptoms at all themselves, which makes them free to roam around being silent carriers, and nobody knows it. That town eradicated CV by testing literally everybody and then isolating the silent carriers, thus starving the virus of new fields to populate.

Iceland's testing found the same thing.

This is why the health experts keep emphasizing, testing, testing, and more testing. As long as we, or Italy, or anybody else, is only testing those with symptoms, we're missing these silent carriers and failing to stop the spread.
Good points. Also, we really don't know the infection to death ratio. We only know the ratio of cases diagnosed (those that present symptoms) and those that succumb. Also, as I said in another post, carriers that have fought off the virus can act as immune boosters as in 'herd immunity.'

That sounds like you're saying antibodies are contagious. I don't think it works that way. There's no such thing as 'herd immunity'.
 
From Epoch Times...


"Yet there is a relatively simple way to halt the spread of the coronavirus fairly rapidly—or at least on a pace we can control. The solution to the coronavirus problem is to test everyone, and then for people who are infected to self-isolate."


"This solution was demonstrated on a small scale in study reported a few days ago in The Guardian. Researchers at the University of Padua tested all 3,300 residents of the Italian town of Vò and separated those carrying the virus—both symptomatic and asymptomatic—from those who were virus free. Transmission stopped "immediately.

But...Can we actually tess 350,000,000?

"Could we test all 329,425,643 men, women, and children in the United States? It sounds like a tall order, but it’s not much different than taking the census, and the only bodily fluid needed is a small amount of nasal mucus (yes: snot). Because of economies of scale, the per unit cost of 300 million tests will likely be less than a dime, but even if, taking administrative costs and the usual inefficiencies into account, the total cost of each test turns out to be $20, the $6.5 billion price tag for Universal Coronavirus Testing will still be $600 million less than we’ll be spending this year alone on the census."

We can try testing but it is harder than you think with rural people and those that are undocumented or out of status in this country.

Ideally the right move is to test everyone but to do it is nearly impossible...
Self tests can be deployed in rural areas. I live in a rural area and there is a local medical clinic. I don't think it's as hard as it seems. That being said, we know that the areas with the highest population density have the most cases. It might be easier to start there with these self testing kits. Also, self testing precludes the need for medical professionals to constantly change PPE.

I am not against the idea but how do you get those that are illegally here or out of status to comply?
Provide blind tests. Give them a number. But then, who knows if an illegal will even give a shit? Best advice. stay away from sanctuary cities.

I live in Texas, so that is impossible...

I commute to Houston daily and deal with Clinics and influx of patients and staff that are from around the world and every social class.

So it is impossible not to interact with them or avoid hot zones.

Again, I agree testing should be done but if we do not do it to everyone then millions will go on being possible carriers.
I hear ya. I would carry hand sanitizer and try to stop myself from touching my own face. Also beware of closed spaces with multiple individuals. One doctor said a 15 to 20 minute exposure in a closed area with other people can promote aerial transmission. Other than that, the way most transmission is accomplished is hand-to-face. It is very hard to limit one's hand to face movements but, I think, worth a try.

What people forget when dealing with the transmission of this virus that just talking or breathing could transmit it because of vapor that come out when we talk or breath.

So this virus is insanely contagious and if you have health issues could be deadly as can be...
 
From Epoch Times...


"Yet there is a relatively simple way to halt the spread of the coronavirus fairly rapidly—or at least on a pace we can control. The solution to the coronavirus problem is to test everyone, and then for people who are infected to self-isolate."


"This solution was demonstrated on a small scale in study reported a few days ago in The Guardian. Researchers at the University of Padua tested all 3,300 residents of the Italian town of Vò and separated those carrying the virus—both symptomatic and asymptomatic—from those who were virus free. Transmission stopped "immediately.

But...Can we actually tess 350,000,000?

"Could we test all 329,425,643 men, women, and children in the United States? It sounds like a tall order, but it’s not much different than taking the census, and the only bodily fluid needed is a small amount of nasal mucus (yes: snot). Because of economies of scale, the per unit cost of 300 million tests will likely be less than a dime, but even if, taking administrative costs and the usual inefficiencies into account, the total cost of each test turns out to be $20, the $6.5 billion price tag for Universal Coronavirus Testing will still be $600 million less than we’ll be spending this year alone on the census."

We can try testing but it is harder than you think with rural people and those that are undocumented or out of status in this country.

Ideally the right move is to test everyone but to do it is nearly impossible...

What procedure involves literally everyone?

The census. Which is done this year.

Equip census interviewers with CV test kits, add that to their duties. Done.
 

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