How to lie about climate change predictions

In 30 years the same people pushing the global warming agenda will be the ones saying they knew all along that it was BS.
The most recent prediction i heard was that the Earth was going to be destroyed by man made global warming in 100 years. The zelots realized that their 10 year or 12 predictions(AOC) doesnt happen, so the moved the goal posts to 100 years, that way the predictors wont be around to be blamed for the lies..
 
The best way to lie about climate change is to use statistics, and only statistics ... here we find the 40-year time period that best demonstrates our claim and say these 40 years were all that was ... instead of looking at all available data because all available data disputes the claim ... this is called restricting your sample pool to drive up probabilities, just like the Monty Hall Puzzler ...

Weather isn't climate

The only difference is weather uses dt and climatology uses ∆t ... otherwise everything is pretty much exactly the same ... for Newton's 2nd Law of Motion we'd use F = m(dv/dt) for the weather forecast and F = m (∆v/∆t) for climate models ... and ∆t can be any real number and there's a surprising amount of real numbers ... so we can pick and choose which one serves our best interest ... anyone who doesn't know what dt is will be easily fooled ...
 


FEBRUARY 7, 2006

Russian scientist predicts 'mini Ice Age'​


A Russian astronomer has predicted that Earth will experience a "mini Ice Age" in the middle of this century, caused by low solar activity.

Khabibullo Abdusamatov of the Pulkovo Astronomic Observatory in St. Petersburg said Monday that temperatures will begin falling six or seven years from now, when global warming caused by increased solar activity in the 20th century reaches its peak, RIA Novosti reported.
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OK, maximum benefit of the doubt, he said that temperatures would begin falling in 2013.

"The warmest years globally have all occurred since 2005, with the top ten being 2016, 2020, 2019, 2015, 2017, 2018, 2014, 2010, 2013 and 2005 (tied), respectively.Feb 14, 2020"

So including 2013, the warmest years we have had on record since 2013 are 2016, 2020, 2019, 2015, 2017, 2018, and 2014. So eight of the ten warmest years on record, including 2013, have happened since that scientist predicted that 2013 would be the beginning of a great cool down. So much for that scientist.
 
The best way to lie about climate change is to use statistics, and only statistics ... here we find the 40-year time period that best demonstrates our claim and say these 40 years were all that was ... instead of looking at all available data because all available data disputes the claim ... this is called restricting your sample pool to drive up probabilities, just like the Monty Hall Puzzler ...

Weather isn't climate

The only difference is weather uses dt and climatology uses ∆t ... otherwise everything is pretty much exactly the same ... for Newton's 2nd Law of Motion we'd use F = m(dv/dt) for the weather forecast and F = m (∆v/∆t) for climate models ... and ∆t can be any real number and there's a surprising amount of real numbers ... so we can pick and choose which one serves our best interest ... anyone who doesn't know what dt is will be easily fooled ...
Glaciers are an excellent measure of warming and cooling. In the Little Ice Age in Europe, the glaciers added mass and volume. Since the industrial revolution, they have been retreating, loosing mass and volume.

"An international research team including scientists from ETH Zurich has shown that almost all the world's glaciers are becoming thinner and losing mass' and that these changes are picking up pace. The team's analysis is the most comprehensive and accurate of its kind to date.

Glaciers are a sensitive indicator of climate change -- and one that can be easily observed. Regardless of altitude or latitude, glaciers have been melting at a high rate since the mid-20th century. Until now, however, the full extent of ice loss has only been partially measured and understood. Now an international research team led by ETH Zurich and the University of Toulouse has authored a comprehensive study on global glacier retreat, which was published online in Nature on 28 April. This is the first study to include all the world's glaciers -- around 220,000 in total -- excluding the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets. The study's spatial and temporal resolution is unprecedented -- and shows how rapidly glaciers have lost thickness and mass over the past two decades"
 
Glaciers are an excellent measure of warming and cooling. In the Little Ice Age in Europe, the glaciers added mass and volume. Since the industrial revolution, they have been retreating, loosing mass and volume.

"An international research team including scientists from ETH Zurich has shown that almost all the world's glaciers are becoming thinner and losing mass' and that these changes are picking up pace. The team's analysis is the most comprehensive and accurate of its kind to date.

Glaciers are a sensitive indicator of climate change -- and one that can be easily observed. Regardless of altitude or latitude, glaciers have been melting at a high rate since the mid-20th century. Until now, however, the full extent of ice loss has only been partially measured and understood. Now an international research team led by ETH Zurich and the University of Toulouse has authored a comprehensive study on global glacier retreat, which was published online in Nature on 28 April. This is the first study to include all the world's glaciers -- around 220,000 in total -- excluding the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets. The study's spatial and temporal resolution is unprecedented -- and shows how rapidly glaciers have lost thickness and mass over the past two decades"
Glaciers have been growing and receding before time was recorded, how can there be any "REAL" scientific evidence if you dont have that data? Oh yeah, it is just a consensus.


 
Glaciers are an excellent measure of warming and cooling. In the Little Ice Age in Europe, the glaciers added mass and volume. Since the industrial revolution, they have been retreating, loosing mass and volume.

"An international research team including scientists from ETH Zurich has shown that almost all the world's glaciers are becoming thinner and losing mass' and that these changes are picking up pace. The team's analysis is the most comprehensive and accurate of its kind to date.

Glaciers are a sensitive indicator of climate change -- and one that can be easily observed. Regardless of altitude or latitude, glaciers have been melting at a high rate since the mid-20th century. Until now, however, the full extent of ice loss has only been partially measured and understood. Now an international research team led by ETH Zurich and the University of Toulouse has authored a comprehensive study on global glacier retreat, which was published online in Nature on 28 April. This is the first study to include all the world's glaciers -- around 220,000 in total -- excluding the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets. The study's spatial and temporal resolution is unprecedented -- and shows how rapidly glaciers have lost thickness and mass over the past two decades"

Thank you for such an obvious lie ... the study only looked back to year 2000 ...

"To their surprise, the researchers also identified areas where melt rates slowed between 2000 and 2019, such as on Greenland's east coast and in Iceland and Scandinavia. They attribute this divergent pattern to a weather anomaly in the North Atlantic that caused higher precipitation and lower temperatures between 2010 and 2019, thereby slowing ice loss. The researchers also discovered that the phenomenon known as the Karakoram anomaly is disappearing. Prior to 2010, glaciers in the Karakoram mountain range were stable -- and in some cases, even growing. However, the researchers' analysis revealed that Karakoram glaciers are now losing mass as well."

Another way to lie is to ignore any data that doesn't conform to your hypothesis ... give up, Old Rocks, you've neither the education nor the wits to discuss this matter ...
 
Thank you for such an obvious lie ... the study only looked back to year 2000 ...

"To their surprise, the researchers also identified areas where melt rates slowed between 2000 and 2019, such as on Greenland's east coast and in Iceland and Scandinavia. They attribute this divergent pattern to a weather anomaly in the North Atlantic that caused higher precipitation and lower temperatures between 2010 and 2019, thereby slowing ice loss. The researchers also discovered that the phenomenon known as the Karakoram anomaly is disappearing. Prior to 2010, glaciers in the Karakoram mountain range were stable -- and in some cases, even growing. However, the researchers' analysis revealed that Karakoram glaciers are now losing mass as well."

Another way to lie is to ignore any data that doesn't conform to your hypothesis ... give up, Old Rocks, you've neither the education nor the wits to discuss this matter ...
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Thank you for such an obvious lie ... the study only looked back to year 2000 ...

"To their surprise, the researchers also identified areas where melt rates slowed between 2000 and 2019, such as on Greenland's east coast and in Iceland and Scandinavia. They attribute this divergent pattern to a weather anomaly in the North Atlantic that caused higher precipitation and lower temperatures between 2010 and 2019, thereby slowing ice loss. The researchers also discovered that the phenomenon known as the Karakoram anomaly is disappearing. Prior to 2010, glaciers in the Karakoram mountain range were stable -- and in some cases, even growing. However, the researchers' analysis revealed that Karakoram glaciers are now losing mass as well."

Another way to lie is to ignore any data that doesn't conform to your hypothesis ... give up, Old Rocks, you've neither the education nor the wits to discuss this matter ...

Accelerated global glacier mass loss in the early twenty-first century​

Nature volume 592, pages726–731 (2021)Cite this article

Abstract​

Glaciers distinct from the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets are shrinking rapidly, altering regional hydrology1, raising global sea level2 and elevating natural hazards3. Yet, owing to the scarcity of constrained mass loss observations, glacier evolution during the satellite era is known only partially, as a geographic and temporal patchwork4,5. Here we reveal the accelerated, albeit contrasting, patterns of glacier mass loss during the early twenty-first century. Using largely untapped satellite archives, we chart surface elevation changes at a high spatiotemporal resolution over all of Earth’s glaciers. We extensively validate our estimates against independent, high-precision measurements and present a globally complete and consistent estimate of glacier mass change. We show that during 2000–2019, glaciers lost a mass of 267 ± 16 gigatonnes per year, equivalent to 21 ± 3 per cent of the observed sea-level rise6. We identify a mass loss acceleration of 48 ± 16 gigatonnes per year per decade, explaining 6 to 19 per cent of the observed acceleration of sea-level rise. Particularly, thinning rates of glaciers outside ice sheet peripheries doubled over the past two decades. Glaciers currently lose more mass, and at similar or larger acceleration rates, than the Greenland or Antarctic ice sheets taken separately7,8,9. By uncovering the patterns of mass change in many regions, we find contrasting glacier fluctuations that agree with the decadal variability in precipitation and temperature. These include a North Atlantic anomaly of decelerated mass loss, a strongly accelerated loss from northwestern American glaciers, and the apparent end of the Karakoram anomaly of mass gain10. We anticipate our highly resolved estimates to advance the understanding of drivers that govern the distribution of glacier change, and to extend our capabilities of predicting these changes at all scales. Predictions robustly benchmarked against observations are critically needed to design adaptive policies for the local- and regional-scale management of water resources and cryospheric risks, as well as for the global-scale mitigation of sea-level rise.
 
Thank you for such an obvious lie ... the study only looked back to year 2000 ...

"To their surprise, the researchers also identified areas where melt rates slowed between 2000 and 2019, such as on Greenland's east coast and in Iceland and Scandinavia. They attribute this divergent pattern to a weather anomaly in the North Atlantic that caused higher precipitation and lower temperatures between 2010 and 2019, thereby slowing ice loss. The researchers also discovered that the phenomenon known as the Karakoram anomaly is disappearing. Prior to 2010, glaciers in the Karakoram mountain range were stable -- and in some cases, even growing. However, the researchers' analysis revealed that Karakoram glaciers are now losing mass as well."

Another way to lie is to ignore any data that doesn't conform to your hypothesis ... give up, Old Rocks, you've neither the education nor the wits to discuss this matter ...
  • Glacier melt across the world has accelerated over the past two decades, according to a new study.
  • It found that meltwater accounted for 21% of global sea level rise over the same period.
  • Glaciers are losing more mass than the Greenland or Antarctic ice sheets with annual rates of glacier thinning 'nearly doubled' from 2000 to 2019.
  • Around 10% of the world’s land surface is currently covered by glaciers, which store around 70% of the Earth’s freshwater.
  • Authors of the study warn that melting glaciers are a significant contributor to rising sea levels.
Glacier melt across the world has accelerated over the past two decades, a new study finds, with the resulting meltwater accounting for 21% of global sea level rise over the same period.
The paper, published in Nature, is the first to analyse the rate of melting from almost every glacier on the planet – around 200,000 in total, excluding the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets – to show how they have lost mass and thickness between 2000 and 2019.

Have you read?​

 

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  • Glacier melt across the world has accelerated over the past two decades, according to a new study.
  • It found that meltwater accounted for 21% of global sea level rise over the same period.
  • Glaciers are losing more mass than the Greenland or Antarctic ice sheets with annual rates of glacier thinning 'nearly doubled' from 2000 to 2019.
  • Around 10% of the world’s land surface is currently covered by glaciers, which store around 70% of the Earth’s freshwater.
  • Authors of the study warn that melting glaciers are a significant contributor to rising sea levels.
Glacier melt across the world has accelerated over the past two decades, a new study finds, with the resulting meltwater accounting for 21% of global sea level rise over the same period.
The paper, published in Nature, is the first to analyse the rate of melting from almost every glacier on the planet – around 200,000 in total, excluding the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets – to show how they have lost mass and thickness between 2000 and 2019.

Have you read?​

Even when shown that your climate religion is full of holes, you still cant realize how you are being duped into giving up more of your money to progressive lefties, because they tell you, " I can save the planet". You really are a typical Joe Biden Voter.




So with dry season upon the desert of California with fires lit by progressives, that is man made global warming, yet now with earlier than expected winter snow fall, this will be weather as usual?

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Accelerated global glacier mass loss in the early twenty-first century​

Nature volume 592, pages726–731 (2021)Cite this article

Abstract​

Glaciers distinct from the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets are shrinking rapidly, altering regional hydrology1, raising global sea level2 and elevating natural hazards3. Yet, owing to the scarcity of constrained mass loss observations, glacier evolution during the satellite era is known only partially, as a geographic and temporal patchwork4,5. Here we reveal the accelerated, albeit contrasting, patterns of glacier mass loss during the early twenty-first century. Using largely untapped satellite archives, we chart surface elevation changes at a high spatiotemporal resolution over all of Earth’s glaciers. We extensively validate our estimates against independent, high-precision measurements and present a globally complete and consistent estimate of glacier mass change. We show that during 2000–2019, glaciers lost a mass of 267 ± 16 gigatonnes per year, equivalent to 21 ± 3 per cent of the observed sea-level rise6. We identify a mass loss acceleration of 48 ± 16 gigatonnes per year per decade, explaining 6 to 19 per cent of the observed acceleration of sea-level rise. Particularly, thinning rates of glaciers outside ice sheet peripheries doubled over the past two decades. Glaciers currently lose more mass, and at similar or larger acceleration rates, than the Greenland or Antarctic ice sheets taken separately7,8,9. By uncovering the patterns of mass change in many regions, we find contrasting glacier fluctuations that agree with the decadal variability in precipitation and temperature. These include a North Atlantic anomaly of decelerated mass loss, a strongly accelerated loss from northwestern American glaciers, and the apparent end of the Karakoram anomaly of mass gain10. We anticipate our highly resolved estimates to advance the understanding of drivers that govern the distribution of glacier change, and to extend our capabilities of predicting these changes at all scales. Predictions robustly benchmarked against observations are critically needed to design adaptive policies for the local- and regional-scale management of water resources and cryospheric risks, as well as for the global-scale mitigation of sea-level rise.

  • Glacier melt across the world has accelerated over the past two decades, according to a new study.
  • It found that meltwater accounted for 21% of global sea level rise over the same period.
  • Glaciers are losing more mass than the Greenland or Antarctic ice sheets with annual rates of glacier thinning 'nearly doubled' from 2000 to 2019.
  • Around 10% of the world’s land surface is currently covered by glaciers, which store around 70% of the Earth’s freshwater.
  • Authors of the study warn that melting glaciers are a significant contributor to rising sea levels.
Glacier melt across the world has accelerated over the past two decades, a new study finds, with the resulting meltwater accounting for 21% of global sea level rise over the same period.
The paper, published in Nature, is the first to analyse the rate of melting from almost every glacier on the planet – around 200,000 in total, excluding the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets – to show how they have lost mass and thickness between 2000 and 2019.

Have you read?​


Oh ... I'm impressed ... now you've gone back to 1980 ... still a lie of omission ... what were glaciers doing in the 16th Century, or the 18th Century? ... you say they're shrinking but compared to what? ... glaciers have been growing, and sea levels dropping, over the past 10,000 years, the evidence is obvious in southern California (evidence in Oregon has been washed away by successive tsunamis) ... the Crater Glacier right there near Portland, OR has been growing since 1980 ...

Did you correct for ENSO, solar cycle, Arctic oscillation? ... what number are you using for sensitivity, emissivity? ... c'mon, goddam liar ...

21% of sea level rise due to meltwater ... ha ha ha ha ha ... what about the other 79% of sea level rise? ... and which is the more important contributor ... ha ha ha ha ha ... c'mon ya filthy liar ... speak up and answer the questions ...
 
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Nobody cares about climate change for 15 years now.

When the turn of the century came, Al Gore led the charge of a billion kOOk predictions that all train wrecked. The people tuned out...then came the idiot kid in Europe that devastated the climate change industry. More tuned out. Now in 2021, the public knows the aim of these people is to tank the economy with bs green schemes.....shrink the middle class and grow the underclass.

Talking about "lies" is ghey....like it is going to matter :abgg2q.jpg:. Nothing that has ever been posted in here by a climate crusader has ever impacted the public perception. They just don't care.
 

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