How many of you ...

dblack

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... are going to vote for Democrats or Republicans in the next election?

When will we learn?
 
Learn what? That voting for a third party candidate that only draws votes from one party is like voting for the other? I think we know that already. There is no possible candidate that could draw equally enough from both parties to make a difference. Disgruntled democrats want someone more populist and disgruntled republicans want someone more fascist.
 
If you want to break the power of the parties, support public financing of elections. As long as money is considered speech, getting a third party going is just wishful thinking.
 
If you want to break the power of the parties, support public financing of elections. As long as money is considered speech, getting a third party going is just wishful thinking.

LOL... Now there's a belly laff!
 
If you want to break the power of the parties, support public financing of elections. As long as money is considered speech, getting a third party going is just wishful thinking.
actually, you would want to support revoking those laws in each state the places the parties in charge of who can run for office. This country was founded on free and fair elections, with the founders envisioning citizen service......AS it stands, when a very popular independant begins to threaten the monopoly, the parties raise the threshold for entry into the debates.

It is wrong and it needs to stop.
 
... are going to vote for Democrats or Republicans in the next election?

When will we learn?

What I ultimately learned as a naive college student who supported Perot, was that I assisted syphoning votes away from Bush and helped put Clinton in office. I won't make that mistake again...Hillary would be much worse than Bill.
 
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I think that the next winner of the multi-state power ball lottery should be given three choices...$300 million cash, an annuity, or President of the United States.

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If you want to break the power of the parties, support public financing of elections. As long as money is considered speech, getting a third party going is just wishful thinking.
actually, you would want to support revoking those laws in each state the places the parties in charge of who can run for office. This country was founded on free and fair elections, with the founders envisioning citizen service......AS it stands, when a very popular independant begins to threaten the monopoly, the parties raise the threshold for entry into the debates.

It is wrong and it needs to stop.

If any third party could actually gather enough grassroots support to be relevant, they could easily force their way into the debates.

The problem isn't the parties, it's the people who follow them.
 
If you want to break the power of the parties, support public financing of elections. As long as money is considered speech, getting a third party going is just wishful thinking.
actually, you would want to support revoking those laws in each state the places the parties in charge of who can run for office. This country was founded on free and fair elections, with the founders envisioning citizen service......AS it stands, when a very popular independant begins to threaten the monopoly, the parties raise the threshold for entry into the debates.

It is wrong and it needs to stop.

If any third party could actually gather enough grassroots support to be relevant, they could easily force their way into the debates.

The problem isn't the parties, it's the people who follow them.
Tell Me why it is then that an independent need 60k registrations compared to the GOP's 600? Or the Dems 600? And that is just in PA...other states have similar restrictions.

In Florida, the GOP set the standard at 1% of the registered voters to get into the televised debates...when independants were hititng that, they upped it to 7 pecent...now its at 15...

As long as the parties can make the rules, we will have ONLY the two parties to vote for.
 
If you want to break the power of the parties, support public financing of elections. As long as money is considered speech, getting a third party going is just wishful thinking.
actually, you would want to support revoking those laws in each state the places the parties in charge of who can run for office. This country was founded on free and fair elections, with the founders envisioning citizen service......AS it stands, when a very popular independant begins to threaten the monopoly, the parties raise the threshold for entry into the debates.

It is wrong and it needs to stop.

If any third party could actually gather enough grassroots support to be relevant, they could easily force their way into the debates.

The problem isn't the parties, it's the people who follow them.
Tell Me why it is then that an independent need 60k registrations compared to the GOP's 600? Or the Dems 600? And that is just in PA...other states have similar restrictions.

In Florida, the GOP set the standard at 1% of the registered voters to get into the televised debates...when independants were hititng that, they upped it to 7 pecent...now its at 15...

As long as the parties can make the rules, we will have ONLY the two parties to vote for.

I'm not sure what you're talking about in terms of PA. What are you referring to when you quote these numbers?

Televised debates are run by the people who pay for them. If that's the party, then they get to call the shots.

But there's no reason that a third party couldn't organize their own debates, and with enough support they could force the D and R candidates to join in.
 
... are going to vote for Democrats or Republicans in the next election?

When will we learn?

No worries, the Libertopians infected most parties available. You can go several different ways.
 
If you want to break the power of the parties, support public financing of elections. As long as money is considered speech, getting a third party going is just wishful thinking.
actually, you would want to support revoking those laws in each state the places the parties in charge of who can run for office. This country was founded on free and fair elections, with the founders envisioning citizen service......AS it stands, when a very popular independant begins to threaten the monopoly, the parties raise the threshold for entry into the debates.

It is wrong and it needs to stop.

If any third party could actually gather enough grassroots support to be relevant, they could easily force their way into the debates.

The problem isn't the parties, it's the people who follow them.

The two party system has done it can to discourage the participation of an actual third party..
 
If both parties live up to recent history and try to out-leftist each other in their nominations then no matter whether you vote D or R you get a liberal. You can't win. So voting for a third party candidate is no more of a waste than voting for the "mainstream".

But to just stay home is chicken.
 
If both parties live up to recent history and try to out-leftist each other in their nominations then no matter whether you vote D or R you get a liberal. You can't win. So voting for a third party candidate is no more of a waste than voting for the "mainstream".

But to just stay home is chicken.

Pfft.............they are both right wing.
 

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