Due to WWI, they ignored the Spanish Flu and, hell, we exported the damned thing to the rest of the world. It wasn't until the end of WWI for the US that they could do anything about it. And then they started to isolate it first region then area and then by the person until they got a handle on it. And masks in an area that was being isolated was Mandatory punishable by either fines or arrest. One person was actually shot to death over refusing to wear a mask. Mask were provided by the Red Cross. They wrote the book on how to handle a modern day Pandemic and that book was passed down from President to President. The Spanish Flu wasn't imported to the US, it originated in the US and was allowed to manifest into a full blown pandemic. They invented social distancing and mandatory masks. Entire Companies were shut down until ALL workers could be cleared. As they cleared the workers, the company was allowed to put them back to work. The Spanish Flu wasn't the Flu at all. It was Influenza. And if you don't think that it can raise it's ugly head again, you would be right only because we have enough people that are vaccinated each year against it. Obama only needed to get the ball rolling. The mechanisms were already in place. Rump fired the people that were supposed to run it. The sad part is, Pence was part of the ending of the H1N1 as Governor at the time as were all other Governors. The ONLY reason it wasn't as bad was that it was handled using the methods and procedures passed down from Administration to Administration. And the fact that a vaccine was discovered. Covid has followed the Spanish Flue and H1N1 to the letter. MF Rump allowed the genie out of the bottle so that we went through much of what the original America went through with the Spanish Flu. But now that we have the Vaccine, we are going to go by way of the H1N1 which was never allowed to become a Pandemic. But it has cost more than 500,000 lives to get to this point. If the Spanish Flu had been handled as badly, the death rate would have been in the tens of millions.
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How is America doing?
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Due to WWI, they ignored the Spanish Flu and, hell, we exported the damned thing to the rest of the world. It wasn't until the end of WWI for the US that they could do anything about it. And then they started to isolate it first region then area and then by the person until they got a handle on it. And masks in an area that was being isolated was Mandatory punishable by either fines or arrest. One person was actually shot to death over refusing to wear a mask. Mask were provided by the Red Cross. They wrote the book on how to handle a modern day Pandemic and that book was passed down from President to President. The Spanish Flu wasn't imported to the US, it originated in the US and was allowed to manifest into a full blown pandemic. They invented social distancing and mandatory masks. Entire Companies were shut down until ALL workers could be cleared. As they cleared the workers, the company was allowed to put them back to work. The Spanish Flu wasn't the Flu at all. It was Influenza. And if you don't think that it can raise it's ugly head again, you would be right only because we have enough people that are vaccinated each year against it. Obama only needed to get the ball rolling. The mechanisms were already in place. Rump fired the people that were supposed to run it. The sad part is, Pence was part of the ending of the H1N1 as Governor at the time as were all other Governors. The ONLY reason it wasn't as bad was that it was handled using the methods and procedures passed down from Administration to Administration. And the fact that a vaccine was discovered. Covid has followed the Spanish Flue and H1N1 to the letter. MF Rump allowed the genie out of the bottle so that we went through much of what the original America went through with the Spanish Flu. But now that we have the Vaccine, we are going to go by way of the H1N1 which was never allowed to become a Pandemic. But it has cost more than 500,000 lives to get to this point. If the Spanish Flu had been handled as badly, the death rate would have been in the tens of millions.
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We have a huge trade deficit with China. I am happy to see us exporting something to them, every time I see it.Not sure why you’re celebrating US oil exports, given the drop in oil demand is reflective of our economy cratering.Did ya notice that we even started exporting oil to China during the year (soon to be decade) of the plandemic? It's absolutely incredible, as world oil demand declined dramatically.
Trump is a miracle worker.
It’s a miracle!
Every time we import something from China, we send American money to them, creating jobs over there, instead of here at home.
The converse is also true.
Cecilie1200
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How is America doing after the election?
1. Washington DC is covered in barb wire, a virtual military zone now.
2. Gas at the pumps keeps going up and up and up with no end in sight
3. America is no longer energy independent thanks to the Key Stone Pipe line being stopped
4. Bombs are falling on Syria.
5. Americans continue to wait for their stimulus checks promised if the two democrats were elected in Georgia, which they were.
6. Taxes will be going up along with gas prices
7. Inflation is on the verge of exploding, making what wealth that exists to be worth less.
8. Biden continues to look like he escaped a nursing home and confused on where he is.
9. The FBI has switched gears on chasing Russian spies to chasing right wing insurrectionists, presumably with the need of building more jails and hiring more police.
10. People are having trouble getting a Covid vaccine now. Not Joe Biden, no, he got his before becoming President. In fact, considering Joe Biden's age, Trump probably saved his life by providing the vaccine for him to take. Must be nice. Most Americans can't get one right now.
America is doing better and better each day even without you Rumpster assistance. Or is that, in spite of your assistance. She's a tough old lady.
Better? How?
Easy answer. Rump is out of office, his kids are headed for prison, jobs are starting to return, the virus is starting to go down, and more. Even with you and your bunch doing your damnedest to keep it from happening. I am doing much, much better now that I was a year ago.
So what I hear you saying is, "America is better because someone from my party is in power, and that's all that matters!! And look at all these bad things I've been told to believe about you, so that I don't have to really think!!!"
B. Kidd
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Dimm's are ass-raping our sovereignty with open borders and working goddamned hard at canceling our individuality as regards freedoms replacing it with communal Marxist group-think.
Beyond this, Washington D.C. is still on a militarized lockdown.
Beyond this, Washington D.C. is still on a militarized lockdown.
Cecilie1200
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No, no it's notIt's doing alot better than in the 50s 60s 70s 80s(lowest point) 90s so not so bad. Send out the stimulus checks to the poor(under 75 grand) and things getting better.
America is not recognizable now. We can't even use social media without being hounded and censored or walk out our door without being attacked for not have a face diaper.
Yeah, but they don't consider those to be bad things, because they aren't happening to them.
I keep saying, leftists are sociopaths. They lack the basic empathy most people learn at 3-4 years old.
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How is America doing after the election?
1. Washington DC is covered in barb wire, a virtual military zone now.
2. Gas at the pumps keeps going up and up and up with no end in sight
3. America is no longer energy independent thanks to the Key Stone Pipe line being stopped
4. Bombs are falling on Syria.
5. Americans continue to wait for their stimulus checks promised if the two democrats were elected in Georgia, which they were.
6. Taxes will be going up along with gas prices
7. Inflation is on the verge of exploding, making what wealth that exists to be worth less.
8. Biden continues to look like he escaped a nursing home and confused on where he is.
9. The FBI has switched gears on chasing Russian spies to chasing right wing insurrectionists, presumably with the need of building more jails and hiring more police.
10. People are having trouble getting a Covid vaccine now. Not Joe Biden, no, he got his before becoming President. In fact, considering Joe Biden's age, Trump probably saved his life by providing the vaccine for him to take. Must be nice. Most Americans can't get one right now.
America is doing better and better each day even without you Rumpster assistance. Or is that, in spite of your assistance. She's a tough old lady.
Better? How?
Easy answer. Rump is out of office, his kids are headed for prison, jobs are starting to return, the virus is starting to go down, and more. Even with you and your bunch doing your damnedest to keep it from happening. I am doing much, much better now that I was a year ago.
The virus was eventually going to recede anyway, Biden had nothing to do with that. Nor did he have anything to do with the massive mobilization of the pharmaceutical industry to come up with the vaccines.
In fact, his only accomplishments so far were by riding on the coat-tails of President Trump. You are not doing better than you were a year ago. You only think you're doing better. You're paying more for gasoline, your country is less secure, your borders are virtually wide open and being flooded with cononavirus-infected illegals, your streets are teeming with gangs, muggers, robbers, rapists,, and the genocide of black-on-black murder continues every day.
Please feel free to list the "accomplishments" of this illegitimate "president" if you can. Or for that matter, any accomplishments over his 40 year political history.
The Virus was NOT going to recede without externals. Each winter, it just got worse and more died. One would think that when we exceeded the death rate of WWII you would get the message. Well, we are going to hit the death rate of the worst war in American History, the Civil War, in about 2 months. Yah, that's going away.
Rump hurt the Pandemic Emergency Programs that were setup about 100 years ago. And continued until Rump. There are a long list of Pandemics much more deadly than Covid that were stopped cold by those procedures. Rump was even passed on by Obama the very book that was passed to Obama that covered this. Rump refused to read it and follow it. And what should have been a small bother turned into a National Pandemic.
Rump could have used the War Powers Act to force the two Antivirus Manufacturers to expand their operation but didn't. That was taken care of on Jan 20th, 2021. And the end is coming by July.
The rest of what you have to say just shows that you are a Trumpanze and you don't have a damned thing to add to any conversation worth anything.
The truth in this post is sure to bring attacks on your character, or your intelligence. Reality and facts are anathema to the trump supporters.
Cecilie1200
Diamond Member
How is America doing after the election?
1. Washington DC is covered in barb wire, a virtual military zone now.
2. Gas at the pumps keeps going up and up and up with no end in sight
3. America is no longer energy independent thanks to the Key Stone Pipe line being stopped
4. Bombs are falling on Syria.
5. Americans continue to wait for their stimulus checks promised if the two democrats were elected in Georgia, which they were.
6. Taxes will be going up along with gas prices
7. Inflation is on the verge of exploding, making what wealth that exists to be worth less.
8. Biden continues to look like he escaped a nursing home and confused on where he is.
9. The FBI has switched gears on chasing Russian spies to chasing right wing insurrectionists, presumably with the need of building more jails and hiring more police.
10. People are having trouble getting a Covid vaccine now. Not Joe Biden, no, he got his before becoming President. In fact, considering Joe Biden's age, Trump probably saved his life by providing the vaccine for him to take. Must be nice. Most Americans can't get one right now.
America is doing better and better each day even without you Rumpster assistance. Or is that, in spite of your assistance. She's a tough old lady.
Wow your crystal ball is malfunctioning.
America is in deep doo doo and it will get deeper with Biden at the helm.
If you voted for that jack ass you get what you voted for. Those of us who didn't vote for jack ass will just to grin and bear it. This country is in trouble with Biden at the helm and if you can't see it then you are one fine sheep. Baa Baa Baa
America went into deep doo doo under Rump. We are doing what Americans always do and are in the process of digging our way out of the deep Kimshee.
"Deep doo doo" such as what? Not enacting the agenda you personally prefer? Or is it that your talking points memo told you to forget everything before 2020 and to pretend that Donald Trump personally cooked up Covid-19 in the White House basement?
How is America doing after the election?
Mayday
The virus was eventually going to recede anyway, Biden had nothing to do with that. Nor did he have anything to do with the massive mobilization of the pharmaceutical industry to come up with the vaccines.
In fact, his only accomplishments so far were by riding on the coat-tails of President Trump. You are not doing better than you were a year ago. You only think you're doing better. You're paying more for gasoline, your country is less secure, your borders are virtually wide open and being flooded with cononavirus-infected illegals, your streets are teeming with gangs, muggers, robbers, rapists,, and the genocide of black-on-black murder continues every day.
Please feel free to list the "accomplishments" of this illegitimate "president" if you can. Or for that matter, any accomplishments over his 40 year political history.
The Virus was NOT going to recede without externals. Each winter, it just got worse and more died. One would think that when we exceeded the death rate of WWII you would get the message. Well, we are going to hit the death rate of the worst war in American History, the Civil War, in about 2 months. Yah, that's going away.
Rump hurt the Pandemic Emergency Programs that were setup about 100 years ago. And continued until Rump. There are a long list of Pandemics much more deadly than Covid that were stopped cold by those procedures. Rump was even passed on by Obama the very book that was passed to Obama that covered this. Rump refused to read it and follow it. And what should have been a small bother turned into a National Pandemic.
Rump could have used the War Powers Act to force the two Antivirus Manufacturers to expand their operation but didn't. That was taken care of on Jan 20th, 2021. And the end is coming by July.
The rest of what you have to say just shows that you are a Trumpanze and you don't have a damned thing to add to any conversation worth anything.
The truth in this post is sure to bring attacks on your character, or your intelligence. Reality and facts are anathema to the trump supporters.
LOL, you support a party who's attacks against Trump are build on lies, distortions and misquotes and then you pine about "reality and facts."
Classic.
You have no character, you're a fascist. That's how America is doing, we're all Democrats or afraid of you
How is America doing after the election?
1. Washington DC is covered in barb wire, a virtual military zone now.
2. Gas at the pumps keeps going up and up and up with no end in sight
3. America is no longer energy independent thanks to the Key Stone Pipe line being stopped
4. Bombs are falling on Syria.
5. Americans continue to wait for their stimulus checks promised if the two democrats were elected in Georgia, which they were.
6. Taxes will be going up along with gas prices
7. Inflation is on the verge of exploding, making what wealth that exists to be worth less.
8. Biden continues to look like he escaped a nursing home and confused on where he is.
9. The FBI has switched gears on chasing Russian spies to chasing right wing insurrectionists, presumably with the need of building more jails and hiring more police.
10. People are having trouble getting a Covid vaccine now. Not Joe Biden, no, he got his before becoming President. In fact, considering Joe Biden's age, Trump probably saved his life by providing the vaccine for him to take. Must be nice. Most Americans can't get one right now.
America is doing better and better each day even without you Rumpster assistance. Or is that, in spite of your assistance. She's a tough old lady.
Better? How?
Easy answer. Rump is out of office, his kids are headed for prison, jobs are starting to return, the virus is starting to go down, and more. Even with you and your bunch doing your damnedest to keep it from happening. I am doing much, much better now that I was a year ago.
So what I hear you saying is, "America is better because someone from my party is in power, and that's all that matters!! And look at all these bad things I've been told to believe about you, so that I don't have to really think!!!"
No one from my party is in power.
Cecilie1200
Diamond Member
How is America doing after the election?
1. Washington DC is covered in barb wire, a virtual military zone now.
2. Gas at the pumps keeps going up and up and up with no end in sight
3. America is no longer energy independent thanks to the Key Stone Pipe line being stopped
4. Bombs are falling on Syria.
5. Americans continue to wait for their stimulus checks promised if the two democrats were elected in Georgia, which they were.
6. Taxes will be going up along with gas prices
7. Inflation is on the verge of exploding, making what wealth that exists to be worth less.
8. Biden continues to look like he escaped a nursing home and confused on where he is.
9. The FBI has switched gears on chasing Russian spies to chasing right wing insurrectionists, presumably with the need of building more jails and hiring more police.
10. People are having trouble getting a Covid vaccine now. Not Joe Biden, no, he got his before becoming President. In fact, considering Joe Biden's age, Trump probably saved his life by providing the vaccine for him to take. Must be nice. Most Americans can't get one right now.
America is doing better and better each day even without you Rumpster assistance. Or is that, in spite of your assistance. She's a tough old lady.
Better? How?
Easy answer. Rump is out of office, his kids are headed for prison, jobs are starting to return, the virus is starting to go down, and more. Even with you and your bunch doing your damnedest to keep it from happening. I am doing much, much better now that I was a year ago.
So what I hear you saying is, "America is better because someone from my party is in power, and that's all that matters!! And look at all these bad things I've been told to believe about you, so that I don't have to really think!!!"
No one from my party is in power.
Whatever keeps you off bridges and window ledges.
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I've been in finance and analyzing this stuff for 21 years.
And still don't know what you're talking about.
People like you are part of the problem because your livelihood is dependent upon Keynesian economics. I've never seen any of you in the business of destroying the dollar for a few crumbs in return discuss the issue in any kind if intellectually honest way.
Do you even know what money is?
No, I don't know what money is.I've been in finance and analyzing this stuff for 21 years.
And still don't know what you're talking about.
People like you are part of the problem because your livelihood is dependent upon Keynesian economics. I've never seen any of you in the business of destroying the dollar for a few crumbs in return discuss the issue in any kind if intellectually honest way.
Do you even know what money is?
You're too smart and educated for me.
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Anyway.
Federal Reserve has announced that it will maintain an interest rate target of zero to 0.25 percent for the rest of 2021. The Fed said it will also continue its monthly purchase of 120 billion dollars of Treasury and mortgage-backed securities.
These borrowing costs are simply unsustainable. And anyone with even a rudimentary understanding odf what's going on should remember that the road to socialism and ultimately communism is paved by Keynesians. Very similar to when inflation led to national socialism in Germany back in the 1920s.
Recall that the Fed started pumping billions into the repo market back in 2019. I spent a great deal of time explaining all of that some place around here back then. I'm not digging it up, though. The repo market is what banks use to make loans to one another. Which I offer as a courtesy to the casual passer-by who may not understand the screwery. They're bailouts.
Federal Reserve has announced that it will maintain an interest rate target of zero to 0.25 percent for the rest of 2021. The Fed said it will also continue its monthly purchase of 120 billion dollars of Treasury and mortgage-backed securities.
These borrowing costs are simply unsustainable. And anyone with even a rudimentary understanding odf what's going on should remember that the road to socialism and ultimately communism is paved by Keynesians. Very similar to when inflation led to national socialism in Germany back in the 1920s.
Recall that the Fed started pumping billions into the repo market back in 2019. I spent a great deal of time explaining all of that some place around here back then. I'm not digging it up, though. The repo market is what banks use to make loans to one another. Which I offer as a courtesy to the casual passer-by who may not understand the screwery. They're bailouts.
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Orange man bad.Anyway.
Federal Reserve has announced that it will maintain an interest rate target of zero to 0.25 percent for the rest of 2021. The Fed said it will also continue its monthly purchase of 120 billion dollars of Treasury and mortgage-backed securities.
These borrowing costs are simply unsustainable. And anyone with even a rudimentary understanding odf what;s going on should remember that the road to socialism and ultimately communism is paved by Keynesians. Very similar to when inflation led to national socialism in Germany back in the 1920s.
Recall that the Fed started pumping billions into the repo market back in 2019. The repo market is what banks use to make loans to one another. Which I offer as a courtesy to the casual passer-by who may not understand the screwery. They're bailouts.
Besides, January 6th!
Tell'em Mac!!!
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You're too smart and educated for me.
Pft. Everybody already knows that, winger. Duh.
You spew a half-way sellable bullshit story to the less aware whenever you pop off about such things, though. I'll give you that.
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These goings-on should properly be placed into context with the current authoritarian movements. Particularly that whole Clowen-Piven strategy they have going on. Again, the road to socialism and ultimately communism is paved by Keynesians from behind the cloak of capitalism.
Its relevance to current economic/monetary policy explained here...
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Inspired by the August 1965 riots in the black district of Watts in Los Angeles — which erupted after police used batons to subdue a black man suspected of drunk driving — Cloward and Piven published an article titled “The Weight of the Poor: A Strategy to End Poverty” in the May 2, 1966 issue of The Nation. Following its publication, The Nation sold an unprecedented 30,000 reprints. Activists were abuzz over the so-called “crisis strategy” or “Cloward-Piven Strategy,” as it came to be called. Many were eager to put it into effect
The Cloward-Piven article called for “cadres of aggressive organizers” to use “demonstrations to create a climate of militancy.” Then, the authors predicted, the following would happen:
Politicians, intimidated by threats of black violence, would appeal to the federal government for help.
Carefully orchestrated media campaigns, carried out by friendly, leftwing journalists, would float the idea of “a federal program of income redistribution” in the form of a guaranteed living income for all — working and non-working people alike.
Local officials would clutch at this idea like drowning men to a lifeline. They would apply pressure on Washington to implement it.
With every major city erupting into chaos, Washington would have to act.
The Cloward-Piven Strategy was an example of what are commonly called Trojan Horse initiatives — mass movements whose outward purpose seems to be providing material help to the downtrodden, but whose real objective is to draft poor people into service as revolutionary foot soldiers; to mobilize poor people en masse in an effort to overwhelm government agencies with a flood of demands beyond the capacity of those agencies to meet. Cloward and Piven calculated that the flood of demands which they were recommending would break the budget, jam the bureaucratic gears into gridlock, and bring the system crashing down.
Fear, turmoil, violence and economic collapse would accompany such a breakdown — providing perfect conditions for fostering radical change. That was the theory.
Its relevance to current economic/monetary policy explained here...
The Cloward-Piven Strategy
In the spirit of current events, I was reminded of the old Cloward-Piven Strategy. It's been put to use throught our short history. It's worth the read. As I mentioned, though, just in the spirit of current events. Inspired by the August 1965 riots in the black district of Watts in Los...
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Inspired by the August 1965 riots in the black district of Watts in Los Angeles — which erupted after police used batons to subdue a black man suspected of drunk driving — Cloward and Piven published an article titled “The Weight of the Poor: A Strategy to End Poverty” in the May 2, 1966 issue of The Nation. Following its publication, The Nation sold an unprecedented 30,000 reprints. Activists were abuzz over the so-called “crisis strategy” or “Cloward-Piven Strategy,” as it came to be called. Many were eager to put it into effect
The Cloward-Piven article called for “cadres of aggressive organizers” to use “demonstrations to create a climate of militancy.” Then, the authors predicted, the following would happen:
Politicians, intimidated by threats of black violence, would appeal to the federal government for help.
Carefully orchestrated media campaigns, carried out by friendly, leftwing journalists, would float the idea of “a federal program of income redistribution” in the form of a guaranteed living income for all — working and non-working people alike.
Local officials would clutch at this idea like drowning men to a lifeline. They would apply pressure on Washington to implement it.
With every major city erupting into chaos, Washington would have to act.
The Cloward-Piven Strategy was an example of what are commonly called Trojan Horse initiatives — mass movements whose outward purpose seems to be providing material help to the downtrodden, but whose real objective is to draft poor people into service as revolutionary foot soldiers; to mobilize poor people en masse in an effort to overwhelm government agencies with a flood of demands beyond the capacity of those agencies to meet. Cloward and Piven calculated that the flood of demands which they were recommending would break the budget, jam the bureaucratic gears into gridlock, and bring the system crashing down.
Fear, turmoil, violence and economic collapse would accompany such a breakdown — providing perfect conditions for fostering radical change. That was the theory.
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So that's basically a recap of what's going on in broad daylight.
And none of the smut muppets narrating cable news entertainment programming are really talking about the orchestrated combination of goings-on in the correct perspective. Not that I've seen anyway. Doubtful they will either, given that they're clearly eager to replace our Repubic with "their Democracy."
I'd previously provided a clear explanation of that agenda here - Democracy vs Republic
And none of the smut muppets narrating cable news entertainment programming are really talking about the orchestrated combination of goings-on in the correct perspective. Not that I've seen anyway. Doubtful they will either, given that they're clearly eager to replace our Repubic with "their Democracy."
I'd previously provided a clear explanation of that agenda here - Democracy vs Republic
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