How Federal Reserve Bankers stole working people’s gold and silver deposits

[Lesh]

The insanity in this thread is just gobsmacking

 

[johnwk]

Now, is it not a fact our founders specifically reject allowing bank notes of any kind to be made a legal tender?

Nope, but feel free to run away instead of posting your proof.
You're better at that than posting evidence for your claims.

Our founders intended the market place, and only the market place, to determine which “notes” if any, are “safe and proper”. The creation of the Federal Reserve System, a monopoly, and making its “notes” a legal tender, is exactly what our Founders specifically rejected when refusing to allow Congress to emit bills of credit on August 16th of the Convention.

For those who are not familiar with our founder’s specifically stated intentions during the framing of our Constitution, here is what transpired during the convention with regard to bank notes being made a legal tender. SEE The Debates in the Federal Convention of 1787, reported by James Madison : August 16

Mr. Govr. MORRIS moved to strike out “and emit bills on the credit of the U. States”-If the United States had credit such bills would be unnecessary: if they had not, unjust & useless.

Mr. BUTLER, 2ds. the motion.

Mr. MADISON, will it not be sufficient to prohibit the making them a tender? This will remove the temptation to emit them with unjust views. And promissory notes in that shape may in some emergencies be best.

____ cut _____

Mr. READ, thought the words, if not struck out, would be as alarming as the mark of the Beast in Revelations.

Mr. LANGDON had rather reject the whole plan than retain the three words “(and emit bills”)

On the motion for striking out
N. H. ay. Mas. ay. Ct ay. N. J. no. Pa. ay. Del. ay. Md. no. Va. ay. [FN23] N. C. ay. S. C. ay. Geo. ay.

[FN23] This vote in the affirmative by Virga. was occasioned by the acquiescence of Mr. Madison who became satisfied that striking out the words would not disable the Govt. from the use of public notes as far as they could be safe & proper; & would only cut off the pretext for a paper currency, and particularly for making the bills a tender either for public or private debts.

The irrefutable fact is, our founding fathers intended the market place, and only the market place, to determine what notes, if any, were safe and proper to accept in payment of debt, and they specifically chose to forbid folks in government to make a particular bank note, or any “note”, a legal tender, which if allowed would literally force people and business owners to accept worthless script in payment of debt.

As a matter of fact, one of the delegates to convention who helped frame our Constitution who lived in Connecticut was defrauded by a legal tender law made in Rhode Island which required him to accept worthless script in payment of debt. As one of the delegates to the Convention Rodger Sherman was quite influential in prohibiting our government to emit bills on the credit of the United States and likewise prohibiting folks in government making notes of any kind a legal tender in payment of debt!

To lean how Roger Sherman was defrauded see his work titled: A Caveat Against Injustice … An inquiry into the evils of a fluctuating medium of exchange.

And, the question is, how is it not a crime for the Treasure of the United States and Secretary of the Treasury to sign Federal Reserve Notes which declare on their face “THIS NOTE IS LEGAL TENDER FOR ALL DEBTS, PUBLIC AND PRIVATE“? Should they not be charged with misfeasance and malfeasance in addition to complicity with a privileged banking institution which defrauds the public with unconstitutional Federal Reserve Notes?

JWK

“Of all the contrivances for cheating the laboring class of mankind, none have been more effectual than that which deludes them with paper money. This is the most effectual of inventions to fertilize the rich man’s field by the sweat of the poor man’s brow.” _____ Daniel Webster.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Now, is it not a fact our founders specifically reject allowing bank notes of any kind to be made a legal tender?

Nope, but feel free to run away instead of posting your proof.
You're better at that than posting evidence for your claims.

Our founders intended the market place, and only the market place, to determine which “notes” if any, are “safe and proper”. The creation of the Federal Reserve System, a monopoly, and making its “notes” a legal tender, is exactly what our Founders specifically rejected when refusing to allow Congress to emit bills of credit on August 16th of the Convention.

For those who are not familiar with our founder’s specifically stated intentions during the framing of our Constitution, here is what transpired during the convention with regard to bank notes being made a legal tender. SEE The Debates in the Federal Convention of 1787, reported by James Madison : August 16

Mr. Govr. MORRIS moved to strike out “and emit bills on the credit of the U. States”-If the United States had credit such bills would be unnecessary: if they had not, unjust & useless.

Mr. BUTLER, 2ds. the motion.

Mr. MADISON, will it not be sufficient to prohibit the making them a tender? This will remove the temptation to emit them with unjust views. And promissory notes in that shape may in some emergencies be best.

____ cut _____

Mr. READ, thought the words, if not struck out, would be as alarming as the mark of the Beast in Revelations.

Mr. LANGDON had rather reject the whole plan than retain the three words “(and emit bills”)

On the motion for striking out
N. H. ay. Mas. ay. Ct ay. N. J. no. Pa. ay. Del. ay. Md. no. Va. ay. [FN23] N. C. ay. S. C. ay. Geo. ay.

[FN23] This vote in the affirmative by Virga. was occasioned by the acquiescence of Mr. Madison who became satisfied that striking out the words would not disable the Govt. from the use of public notes as far as they could be safe & proper; & would only cut off the pretext for a paper currency, and particularly for making the bills a tender either for public or private debts.

The irrefutable fact is, our founding fathers intended the market place, and only the market place, to determine what notes, if any, were safe and proper to accept in payment of debt, and they specifically chose to forbid folks in government to make a particular bank note, or any “note”, a legal tender, which if allowed would literally force people and business owners to accept worthless script in payment of debt.

As a matter of fact, one of the delegates to convention who helped frame our Constitution who lived in Connecticut was defrauded by a legal tender law made in Rhode Island which required him to accept worthless script in payment of debt. As one of the delegates to the Convention Rodger Sherman was quite influential in prohibiting our government to emit bills on the credit of the United States and likewise prohibiting folks in government making notes of any kind a legal tender in payment of debt!

To lean how Roger Sherman was defrauded see his work titled: A Caveat Against Injustice … An inquiry into the evils of a fluctuating medium of exchange.

And, the question is, how is it not a crime for the Treasure of the United States and Secretary of the Treasury to sign Federal Reserve Notes which declare on their face “THIS NOTE IS LEGAL TENDER FOR ALL DEBTS, PUBLIC AND PRIVATE“? Should they not be charged with misfeasance and malfeasance in addition to complicity with a privileged banking institution which defrauds the public with unconstitutional Federal Reserve Notes?

JWK

“Of all the contrivances for cheating the laboring class of mankind, none have been more effectual than that which deludes them with paper money. This is the most effectual of inventions to fertilize the rich man’s field by the sweat of the poor man’s brow.” _____ Daniel Webster.

The creation of the Federal Reserve System, a monopoly, and making its “notes” a legal tender, is exactly what our Founders specifically rejected

That's an interesting claim......so who approved the creation of the first US central bank in 1791?

Rodger Sherman was quite influential in prohibiting our government to emit bills on the credit of the United States and likewise prohibiting folks in government making notes of any kind a legal tender in payment of debt!

Our government was never prohibited from doing that.
Your confusion in these matters is quite extensive.

 

[johnwk]

Now, is it not a fact our founders specifically reject allowing bank notes of any kind to be made a legal tender?

Nope, but feel free to run away instead of posting your proof.
You're better at that than posting evidence for your claims.

Our founders intended the market place, and only the market place, to determine which “notes” if any, are “safe and proper”. The creation of the Federal Reserve System, a monopoly, and making its “notes” a legal tender, is exactly what our Founders specifically rejected when refusing to allow Congress to emit bills of credit on August 16th of the Convention.

For those who are not familiar with our founder’s specifically stated intentions during the framing of our Constitution, here is what transpired during the convention with regard to bank notes being made a legal tender. SEE The Debates in the Federal Convention of 1787, reported by James Madison : August 16

Mr. Govr. MORRIS moved to strike out “and emit bills on the credit of the U. States”-If the United States had credit such bills would be unnecessary: if they had not, unjust & useless.

Mr. BUTLER, 2ds. the motion.

Mr. MADISON, will it not be sufficient to prohibit the making them a tender? This will remove the temptation to emit them with unjust views. And promissory notes in that shape may in some emergencies be best.

____ cut _____

Mr. READ, thought the words, if not struck out, would be as alarming as the mark of the Beast in Revelations.

Mr. LANGDON had rather reject the whole plan than retain the three words “(and emit bills”)

On the motion for striking out
N. H. ay. Mas. ay. Ct ay. N. J. no. Pa. ay. Del. ay. Md. no. Va. ay. [FN23] N. C. ay. S. C. ay. Geo. ay.

[FN23] This vote in the affirmative by Virga. was occasioned by the acquiescence of Mr. Madison who became satisfied that striking out the words would not disable the Govt. from the use of public notes as far as they could be safe & proper; & would only cut off the pretext for a paper currency, and particularly for making the bills a tender either for public or private debts.

The irrefutable fact is, our founding fathers intended the market place, and only the market place, to determine what notes, if any, were safe and proper to accept in payment of debt, and they specifically chose to forbid folks in government to make a particular bank note, or any “note”, a legal tender, which if allowed would literally force people and business owners to accept worthless script in payment of debt.

As a matter of fact, one of the delegates to convention who helped frame our Constitution who lived in Connecticut was defrauded by a legal tender law made in Rhode Island which required him to accept worthless script in payment of debt. As one of the delegates to the Convention Rodger Sherman was quite influential in prohibiting our government to emit bills on the credit of the United States and likewise prohibiting folks in government making notes of any kind a legal tender in payment of debt!

To lean how Roger Sherman was defrauded see his work titled: A Caveat Against Injustice … An inquiry into the evils of a fluctuating medium of exchange.

And, the question is, how is it not a crime for the Treasure of the United States and Secretary of the Treasury to sign Federal Reserve Notes which declare on their face “THIS NOTE IS LEGAL TENDER FOR ALL DEBTS, PUBLIC AND PRIVATE“? Should they not be charged with misfeasance and malfeasance in addition to complicity with a privileged banking institution which defrauds the public with unconstitutional Federal Reserve Notes?

JWK

“Of all the contrivances for cheating the laboring class of mankind, none have been more effectual than that which deludes them with paper money. This is the most effectual of inventions to fertilize the rich man’s field by the sweat of the poor man’s brow.” _____ Daniel Webster.

The creation of the Federal Reserve System, a monopoly, and making its “notes” a legal tender, is exactly what our Founders specifically rejected

That's an interesting claim.....

It's a factual claim. See: The Debates in the Federal Convention of 1787, reported by James Madison : August 16

JWK

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Now, is it not a fact our founders specifically reject allowing bank notes of any kind to be made a legal tender?

Nope, but feel free to run away instead of posting your proof.
You're better at that than posting evidence for your claims.

Our founders intended the market place, and only the market place, to determine which “notes” if any, are “safe and proper”. The creation of the Federal Reserve System, a monopoly, and making its “notes” a legal tender, is exactly what our Founders specifically rejected when refusing to allow Congress to emit bills of credit on August 16th of the Convention.

For those who are not familiar with our founder’s specifically stated intentions during the framing of our Constitution, here is what transpired during the convention with regard to bank notes being made a legal tender. SEE The Debates in the Federal Convention of 1787, reported by James Madison : August 16

Mr. Govr. MORRIS moved to strike out “and emit bills on the credit of the U. States”-If the United States had credit such bills would be unnecessary: if they had not, unjust & useless.

Mr. BUTLER, 2ds. the motion.

Mr. MADISON, will it not be sufficient to prohibit the making them a tender? This will remove the temptation to emit them with unjust views. And promissory notes in that shape may in some emergencies be best.

____ cut _____

Mr. READ, thought the words, if not struck out, would be as alarming as the mark of the Beast in Revelations.

Mr. LANGDON had rather reject the whole plan than retain the three words “(and emit bills”)

On the motion for striking out
N. H. ay. Mas. ay. Ct ay. N. J. no. Pa. ay. Del. ay. Md. no. Va. ay. [FN23] N. C. ay. S. C. ay. Geo. ay.

[FN23] This vote in the affirmative by Virga. was occasioned by the acquiescence of Mr. Madison who became satisfied that striking out the words would not disable the Govt. from the use of public notes as far as they could be safe & proper; & would only cut off the pretext for a paper currency, and particularly for making the bills a tender either for public or private debts.

The irrefutable fact is, our founding fathers intended the market place, and only the market place, to determine what notes, if any, were safe and proper to accept in payment of debt, and they specifically chose to forbid folks in government to make a particular bank note, or any “note”, a legal tender, which if allowed would literally force people and business owners to accept worthless script in payment of debt.

As a matter of fact, one of the delegates to convention who helped frame our Constitution who lived in Connecticut was defrauded by a legal tender law made in Rhode Island which required him to accept worthless script in payment of debt. As one of the delegates to the Convention Rodger Sherman was quite influential in prohibiting our government to emit bills on the credit of the United States and likewise prohibiting folks in government making notes of any kind a legal tender in payment of debt!

To lean how Roger Sherman was defrauded see his work titled: A Caveat Against Injustice … An inquiry into the evils of a fluctuating medium of exchange.

And, the question is, how is it not a crime for the Treasure of the United States and Secretary of the Treasury to sign Federal Reserve Notes which declare on their face “THIS NOTE IS LEGAL TENDER FOR ALL DEBTS, PUBLIC AND PRIVATE“? Should they not be charged with misfeasance and malfeasance in addition to complicity with a privileged banking institution which defrauds the public with unconstitutional Federal Reserve Notes?

JWK

“Of all the contrivances for cheating the laboring class of mankind, none have been more effectual than that which deludes them with paper money. This is the most effectual of inventions to fertilize the rich man’s field by the sweat of the poor man’s brow.” _____ Daniel Webster.

The creation of the Federal Reserve System, a monopoly, and making its “notes” a legal tender, is exactly what our Founders specifically rejected

That's an interesting claim.....

It's a factual claim. See: The Debates in the Federal Convention of 1787, reported by James Madison : August 16

JWK

Show me where it is in the Constitution they actually ratified.

And remind me, who approved the creation of the first US central bank in 1791?

 

[22lcidw]

Now, is it not a fact our founders specifically reject allowing bank notes of any kind to be made a legal tender?

Nope, but feel free to run away instead of posting your proof.
You're better at that than posting evidence for your claims.

Our founders intended the market place, and only the market place, to determine which “notes” if any, are “safe and proper”. The creation of the Federal Reserve System, a monopoly, and making its “notes” a legal tender, is exactly what our Founders specifically rejected when refusing to allow Congress to emit bills of credit on August 16th of the Convention.

For those who are not familiar with our founder’s specifically stated intentions during the framing of our Constitution, here is what transpired during the convention with regard to bank notes being made a legal tender. SEE The Debates in the Federal Convention of 1787, reported by James Madison : August 16

Mr. Govr. MORRIS moved to strike out “and emit bills on the credit of the U. States”-If the United States had credit such bills would be unnecessary: if they had not, unjust & useless.

Mr. BUTLER, 2ds. the motion.

Mr. MADISON, will it not be sufficient to prohibit the making them a tender? This will remove the temptation to emit them with unjust views. And promissory notes in that shape may in some emergencies be best.

____ cut _____

Mr. READ, thought the words, if not struck out, would be as alarming as the mark of the Beast in Revelations.

Mr. LANGDON had rather reject the whole plan than retain the three words “(and emit bills”)

On the motion for striking out
N. H. ay. Mas. ay. Ct ay. N. J. no. Pa. ay. Del. ay. Md. no. Va. ay. [FN23] N. C. ay. S. C. ay. Geo. ay.

[FN23] This vote in the affirmative by Virga. was occasioned by the acquiescence of Mr. Madison who became satisfied that striking out the words would not disable the Govt. from the use of public notes as far as they could be safe & proper; & would only cut off the pretext for a paper currency, and particularly for making the bills a tender either for public or private debts.

The irrefutable fact is, our founding fathers intended the market place, and only the market place, to determine what notes, if any, were safe and proper to accept in payment of debt, and they specifically chose to forbid folks in government to make a particular bank note, or any “note”, a legal tender, which if allowed would literally force people and business owners to accept worthless script in payment of debt.

As a matter of fact, one of the delegates to convention who helped frame our Constitution who lived in Connecticut was defrauded by a legal tender law made in Rhode Island which required him to accept worthless script in payment of debt. As one of the delegates to the Convention Rodger Sherman was quite influential in prohibiting our government to emit bills on the credit of the United States and likewise prohibiting folks in government making notes of any kind a legal tender in payment of debt!

To lean how Roger Sherman was defrauded see his work titled: A Caveat Against Injustice … An inquiry into the evils of a fluctuating medium of exchange.

And, the question is, how is it not a crime for the Treasure of the United States and Secretary of the Treasury to sign Federal Reserve Notes which declare on their face “THIS NOTE IS LEGAL TENDER FOR ALL DEBTS, PUBLIC AND PRIVATE“? Should they not be charged with misfeasance and malfeasance in addition to complicity with a privileged banking institution which defrauds the public with unconstitutional Federal Reserve Notes?

JWK

“Of all the contrivances for cheating the laboring class of mankind, none have been more effectual than that which deludes them with paper money. This is the most effectual of inventions to fertilize the rich man’s field by the sweat of the poor man’s brow.” _____ Daniel Webster.

The creation of the Federal Reserve System, a monopoly, and making its “notes” a legal tender, is exactly what our Founders specifically rejected

That's an interesting claim.....

It's a factual claim. See: The Debates in the Federal Convention of 1787, reported by James Madison : August 16

JWK

Show me where it is in the Constitution they actually ratified.

And remind me, who approved the creation of the first US central bank in 1791?

There were actually three central banks I think. And there were battles on currency type. The fact is this current Fiat currency is privately owned by mostly foreigners. Our treasury prints notes by their orders. To return to gold and silver would most likely give us a massive depression at this point. But can we return the fiat currency to the people of our nation? Managed by professionals and answers to us. Think of all the potential usury money saved. There is an alternate history based on globalists and their power and the interference in world and American affairs.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Now, is it not a fact our founders specifically reject allowing bank notes of any kind to be made a legal tender?

Nope, but feel free to run away instead of posting your proof.
You're better at that than posting evidence for your claims.

Our founders intended the market place, and only the market place, to determine which “notes” if any, are “safe and proper”. The creation of the Federal Reserve System, a monopoly, and making its “notes” a legal tender, is exactly what our Founders specifically rejected when refusing to allow Congress to emit bills of credit on August 16th of the Convention.

For those who are not familiar with our founder’s specifically stated intentions during the framing of our Constitution, here is what transpired during the convention with regard to bank notes being made a legal tender. SEE The Debates in the Federal Convention of 1787, reported by James Madison : August 16

Mr. Govr. MORRIS moved to strike out “and emit bills on the credit of the U. States”-If the United States had credit such bills would be unnecessary: if they had not, unjust & useless.

Mr. BUTLER, 2ds. the motion.

Mr. MADISON, will it not be sufficient to prohibit the making them a tender? This will remove the temptation to emit them with unjust views. And promissory notes in that shape may in some emergencies be best.

____ cut _____

Mr. READ, thought the words, if not struck out, would be as alarming as the mark of the Beast in Revelations.

Mr. LANGDON had rather reject the whole plan than retain the three words “(and emit bills”)

On the motion for striking out
N. H. ay. Mas. ay. Ct ay. N. J. no. Pa. ay. Del. ay. Md. no. Va. ay. [FN23] N. C. ay. S. C. ay. Geo. ay.

[FN23] This vote in the affirmative by Virga. was occasioned by the acquiescence of Mr. Madison who became satisfied that striking out the words would not disable the Govt. from the use of public notes as far as they could be safe & proper; & would only cut off the pretext for a paper currency, and particularly for making the bills a tender either for public or private debts.

The irrefutable fact is, our founding fathers intended the market place, and only the market place, to determine what notes, if any, were safe and proper to accept in payment of debt, and they specifically chose to forbid folks in government to make a particular bank note, or any “note”, a legal tender, which if allowed would literally force people and business owners to accept worthless script in payment of debt.

As a matter of fact, one of the delegates to convention who helped frame our Constitution who lived in Connecticut was defrauded by a legal tender law made in Rhode Island which required him to accept worthless script in payment of debt. As one of the delegates to the Convention Rodger Sherman was quite influential in prohibiting our government to emit bills on the credit of the United States and likewise prohibiting folks in government making notes of any kind a legal tender in payment of debt!

To lean how Roger Sherman was defrauded see his work titled: A Caveat Against Injustice … An inquiry into the evils of a fluctuating medium of exchange.

And, the question is, how is it not a crime for the Treasure of the United States and Secretary of the Treasury to sign Federal Reserve Notes which declare on their face “THIS NOTE IS LEGAL TENDER FOR ALL DEBTS, PUBLIC AND PRIVATE“? Should they not be charged with misfeasance and malfeasance in addition to complicity with a privileged banking institution which defrauds the public with unconstitutional Federal Reserve Notes?

JWK

“Of all the contrivances for cheating the laboring class of mankind, none have been more effectual than that which deludes them with paper money. This is the most effectual of inventions to fertilize the rich man’s field by the sweat of the poor man’s brow.” _____ Daniel Webster.

The creation of the Federal Reserve System, a monopoly, and making its “notes” a legal tender, is exactly what our Founders specifically rejected

That's an interesting claim.....

It's a factual claim. See: The Debates in the Federal Convention of 1787, reported by James Madison : August 16

JWK

Show me where it is in the Constitution they actually ratified.

And remind me, who approved the creation of the first US central bank in 1791?

There were actually three central banks I think. And there were battles on currency type. The fact is this current Fiat currency is privately owned by mostly foreigners. Our treasury prints notes by their orders. To return to gold and silver would most likely give us a massive depression at this point. But can we return the fiat currency to the people of our nation? Managed by professionals and answers to us. Think of all the potential usury money saved. There is an alternate history based on globalists and their power and the interference in world and American affairs.

The fact is this current Fiat currency is privately owned by mostly foreigners.

Foreigners like our FRNs. It's much better than their own crappy currencies.

But can we return the fiat currency to the people of our nation?

Huh?

Think of all the potential usury money saved.

You'll have to explain what you mean.

 

[johnwk]

Now, is it not a fact our founders specifically reject allowing bank notes of any kind to be made a legal tender?

Nope, but feel free to run away instead of posting your proof.
You're better at that than posting evidence for your claims.

Our founders intended the market place, and only the market place, to determine which “notes” if any, are “safe and proper”. The creation of the Federal Reserve System, a monopoly, and making its “notes” a legal tender, is exactly what our Founders specifically rejected when refusing to allow Congress to emit bills of credit on August 16th of the Convention.

For those who are not familiar with our founder’s specifically stated intentions during the framing of our Constitution, here is what transpired during the convention with regard to bank notes being made a legal tender. SEE The Debates in the Federal Convention of 1787, reported by James Madison : August 16

Mr. Govr. MORRIS moved to strike out “and emit bills on the credit of the U. States”-If the United States had credit such bills would be unnecessary: if they had not, unjust & useless.

Mr. BUTLER, 2ds. the motion.

Mr. MADISON, will it not be sufficient to prohibit the making them a tender? This will remove the temptation to emit them with unjust views. And promissory notes in that shape may in some emergencies be best.

____ cut _____

Mr. READ, thought the words, if not struck out, would be as alarming as the mark of the Beast in Revelations.

Mr. LANGDON had rather reject the whole plan than retain the three words “(and emit bills”)

On the motion for striking out
N. H. ay. Mas. ay. Ct ay. N. J. no. Pa. ay. Del. ay. Md. no. Va. ay. [FN23] N. C. ay. S. C. ay. Geo. ay.

[FN23] This vote in the affirmative by Virga. was occasioned by the acquiescence of Mr. Madison who became satisfied that striking out the words would not disable the Govt. from the use of public notes as far as they could be safe & proper; & would only cut off the pretext for a paper currency, and particularly for making the bills a tender either for public or private debts.

The irrefutable fact is, our founding fathers intended the market place, and only the market place, to determine what notes, if any, were safe and proper to accept in payment of debt, and they specifically chose to forbid folks in government to make a particular bank note, or any “note”, a legal tender, which if allowed would literally force people and business owners to accept worthless script in payment of debt.

As a matter of fact, one of the delegates to convention who helped frame our Constitution who lived in Connecticut was defrauded by a legal tender law made in Rhode Island which required him to accept worthless script in payment of debt. As one of the delegates to the Convention Rodger Sherman was quite influential in prohibiting our government to emit bills on the credit of the United States and likewise prohibiting folks in government making notes of any kind a legal tender in payment of debt!

To lean how Roger Sherman was defrauded see his work titled: A Caveat Against Injustice … An inquiry into the evils of a fluctuating medium of exchange.

And, the question is, how is it not a crime for the Treasure of the United States and Secretary of the Treasury to sign Federal Reserve Notes which declare on their face “THIS NOTE IS LEGAL TENDER FOR ALL DEBTS, PUBLIC AND PRIVATE“? Should they not be charged with misfeasance and malfeasance in addition to complicity with a privileged banking institution which defrauds the public with unconstitutional Federal Reserve Notes?

JWK

“Of all the contrivances for cheating the laboring class of mankind, none have been more effectual than that which deludes them with paper money. This is the most effectual of inventions to fertilize the rich man’s field by the sweat of the poor man’s brow.” _____ Daniel Webster.

The creation of the Federal Reserve System, a monopoly, and making its “notes” a legal tender, is exactly what our Founders specifically rejected

That's an interesting claim.....

It's a factual claim. See: The Debates in the Federal Convention of 1787, reported by James Madison : August 16

JWK

Show me where it is in the Constitution they actually ratified.

See: The Debates in the Federal Convention of 1787, reported by James Madison : August 16​

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Now, is it not a fact our founders specifically reject allowing bank notes of any kind to be made a legal tender?

Nope, but feel free to run away instead of posting your proof.
You're better at that than posting evidence for your claims.

Our founders intended the market place, and only the market place, to determine which “notes” if any, are “safe and proper”. The creation of the Federal Reserve System, a monopoly, and making its “notes” a legal tender, is exactly what our Founders specifically rejected when refusing to allow Congress to emit bills of credit on August 16th of the Convention.

For those who are not familiar with our founder’s specifically stated intentions during the framing of our Constitution, here is what transpired during the convention with regard to bank notes being made a legal tender. SEE The Debates in the Federal Convention of 1787, reported by James Madison : August 16

Mr. Govr. MORRIS moved to strike out “and emit bills on the credit of the U. States”-If the United States had credit such bills would be unnecessary: if they had not, unjust & useless.

Mr. BUTLER, 2ds. the motion.

Mr. MADISON, will it not be sufficient to prohibit the making them a tender? This will remove the temptation to emit them with unjust views. And promissory notes in that shape may in some emergencies be best.

____ cut _____

Mr. READ, thought the words, if not struck out, would be as alarming as the mark of the Beast in Revelations.

Mr. LANGDON had rather reject the whole plan than retain the three words “(and emit bills”)

On the motion for striking out
N. H. ay. Mas. ay. Ct ay. N. J. no. Pa. ay. Del. ay. Md. no. Va. ay. [FN23] N. C. ay. S. C. ay. Geo. ay.

[FN23] This vote in the affirmative by Virga. was occasioned by the acquiescence of Mr. Madison who became satisfied that striking out the words would not disable the Govt. from the use of public notes as far as they could be safe & proper; & would only cut off the pretext for a paper currency, and particularly for making the bills a tender either for public or private debts.

The irrefutable fact is, our founding fathers intended the market place, and only the market place, to determine what notes, if any, were safe and proper to accept in payment of debt, and they specifically chose to forbid folks in government to make a particular bank note, or any “note”, a legal tender, which if allowed would literally force people and business owners to accept worthless script in payment of debt.

As a matter of fact, one of the delegates to convention who helped frame our Constitution who lived in Connecticut was defrauded by a legal tender law made in Rhode Island which required him to accept worthless script in payment of debt. As one of the delegates to the Convention Rodger Sherman was quite influential in prohibiting our government to emit bills on the credit of the United States and likewise prohibiting folks in government making notes of any kind a legal tender in payment of debt!

To lean how Roger Sherman was defrauded see his work titled: A Caveat Against Injustice … An inquiry into the evils of a fluctuating medium of exchange.

And, the question is, how is it not a crime for the Treasure of the United States and Secretary of the Treasury to sign Federal Reserve Notes which declare on their face “THIS NOTE IS LEGAL TENDER FOR ALL DEBTS, PUBLIC AND PRIVATE“? Should they not be charged with misfeasance and malfeasance in addition to complicity with a privileged banking institution which defrauds the public with unconstitutional Federal Reserve Notes?

JWK

“Of all the contrivances for cheating the laboring class of mankind, none have been more effectual than that which deludes them with paper money. This is the most effectual of inventions to fertilize the rich man’s field by the sweat of the poor man’s brow.” _____ Daniel Webster.

The creation of the Federal Reserve System, a monopoly, and making its “notes” a legal tender, is exactly what our Founders specifically rejected

That's an interesting claim.....

It's a factual claim. See: The Debates in the Federal Convention of 1787, reported by James Madison : August 16

JWK

Show me where it is in the Constitution they actually ratified.

See: The Debates in the Federal Convention of 1787, reported by James Madison : August 16​

They debated lots of things that didn't get into the actual Constitution.

You never did say which Founders approved of the creation of our Central Bank in 1791...….

 

[Norman]

During the time period when the Federal Reserve was created back in 1913, America’s laboring class people ___ plumbers, carpenters, electricians, store clerks, janitors, etc. ___ were paid in gold or silver coins, a real commodity having intrinsic value, or, they were paid with various forms of Federal Reserve Notes, each of which could be brought to the bank of issue and exchanged for the Note’s expressed face value, in gold or silver “dollars”. . . real material wealth!

Keep in mind, if you have $20 in your bank account today, and withdrew it, and the bank had to give you twenty silver dollars, you would be able to consume approximately what $300 in Federal Reserve notes now allows you to consume. This gives you an idea of how much purchasing power a person has lost since the introduction of the Federal Reserve System. And that loss in purchasing power is the gain of bankers who have seized control over the issuance of our nation’s money supply.

Getting back to our nation’s money history, eventually, working people who deposited their gold or silver coins, or Federal Reserve Notes which declared on their face were redeemable in gold or silver coins, when withdrawing their money, were handed Federal Reserve Notes which had a very clever change. These new Federal Reserve Notes circulated by the banks no longer guaranteed to be redeemable in gold or silver coins. But few, if any of the working people, realized the new Notes were no longer redeemable by Federal Reserve Banks in gold or silver coin.

Eventually, the Federal Reserve Banks switched all incoming Notes which were redeemable in gold or silver coin with Notes no longer redeemable in gold or silver coins, and this is how the Federal Reserve System swindled the American People out of their gold and silver, and now, having swindled America’s working people out of their gold and silver coins, an honest medium of exchange, the Federal Reserve rents Bank Note script to the public to conduct their business while bankers now live large by a thieving Fractional Reserve Banking system. The following video will explain this swindling operation which allows bankers to live large and consume the productivity of America’s labor and industries by renting out Federal Reserve Notes.



JWK

"Of all the contrivances for cheating the laboring class of mankind, none have been more effectual than that which deludes them with paper money. This is the most effectual of inventions to fertilize the rich man's field by the sweat of the poor man's brow."_____ Daniel Webster.

The whole banking system is a scam. The federal reserve is just the top of that layers upon layers of scam.