How do those on the left defend this?

[AzogtheDefiler]

It’s the definition of

I have no doubt that a trans woman in a mens lockerroom is much more likely to be abused than a trans woman abusing straight girls in a women’s room. I would agree with you there

The mere presence of men in a women's restroom, locker room, dressing room, etc., is abusive to any women or girls whose privacy and modesty are violated thereby.

You cannot advocate allowing mentally- and morally-degenerate male perverts the “right” to intrude in such places, and at the same time honesty deny that what you are advocating is the sexual abuse of women and girls.

Men have a duty to protect women and girls from such abuse, not to enable it.

Are trans women molesting little girls? Cause I haven’t heard of that being an issue. You know where I have heard of there being problems with child molestation… in the Catholic Church and Boy Scouts. How about you direct you anger in more appropriate places

Molesting? How about throwing their shlong out. That’s enough. Not appropriate. Well not to normal people. You being LGTBQ are fine with it

I realize that Slade - who pretty clearly had something happen in his own childhood that only his therapist needs to hear about - won't understand this, but exposing your genitals to children IS a form of sexual abuse. If some sicko goes to a playground in a trenchcoat and whips it open to flash his junk at kids, the cops arrest him and put him on the sex offender registry. If a father insists on walking around the house naked in front of his children, Child Protective Services shows up at his house with the cops to snatch those kids and slap him in cuffs. In neither of those cases does anyone say, "Oh, well, he didn't touch anyone, so it's no big deal." Only when the penis-bearer in question is "transgender" is it suddenly not sexual abuse.

Fuck that hypocritical bullshSpade

I have no doubt that a trans woman in a mens lockerroom is much more likely to be abused than a trans woman abusing straight girls in a women’s room. I would agree with you there

The mere presence of men in a women's restroom, locker room, dressing room, etc., is abusive to any women or girls whose privacy and modesty are violated thereby.

You cannot advocate allowing mentally- and morally-degenerate male perverts the “right” to intrude in such places, and at the same time honesty deny that what you are advocating is the sexual abuse of women and girls.

Men have a duty to protect women and girls from such abuse, not to enable it.

Are trans women molesting little girls? Cause I haven’t heard of that being an issue. You know where I have heard of there being problems with child molestation… in the Catholic Church and Boy Scouts. How about you direct you anger in more appropriate places

Molesting? How about throwing their shlong out. That’s enough. Not appropriate. Well not to normal people. You being LGTBQ are fine with it

I realize that Slade - who pretty clearly had something happen in his own childhood that only his therapist needs to hear about - won't understand this, but exposing your genitals to children IS a form of sexual abuse. If some sicko goes to a playground in a trenchcoat and whips it open to flash his junk at kids, the cops arrest him and put him on the sex offender registry. If a father insists on walking around the house naked in front of his children, Child Protective Services shows up at his house with the cops to snatch those kids and slap him in cuffs. In neither of those cases does anyone say, "Oh, well, he didn't touch anyone, so it's no big deal." Only when the penis-bearer in question is "transgender" is it suddenly not sexual abuse.

Fuck that hypocritical bullshit.

Why do you make shit up?! I’ve said several times that exposing a penis to little girls in a public Locker room is totally inappropriate. I’ve said the situation in the OP was inappropriate. so why do you lie and pretend that ive been defending it?! Also to presume I was molested as a child is sick ridiculous and shameful.

Sale

I have no doubt that a trans woman in a mens lockerroom is much more likely to be abused than a trans woman abusing straight girls in a women’s room. I would agree with you there

The mere presence of men in a women's restroom, locker room, dressing room, etc., is abusive to any women or girls whose privacy and modesty are violated thereby.

You cannot advocate allowing mentally- and morally-degenerate male perverts the “right” to intrude in such places, and at the same time honesty deny that what you are advocating is the sexual abuse of women and girls.

Men have a duty to protect women and girls from such abuse, not to enable it.

Are trans women molesting little girls? Cause I haven’t heard of that being an issue. You know where I have heard of there being problems with child molestation… in the Catholic Church and Boy Scouts. How about you direct you anger in more appropriate places

Molesting? How about throwing their shlong out. That’s enough. Not appropriate. Well not to normal people. You being LGTBQ are fine with it

I realize that Slade - who pretty clearly had something happen in his own childhood that only his therapist needs to hear about - won't understand this, but exposing your genitals to children IS a form of sexual abuse. If some sicko goes to a playground in a trenchcoat and whips it open to flash his junk at kids, the cops arrest him and put him on the sex offender registry. If a father insists on walking around the house naked in front of his children, Child Protective Services shows up at his house with the cops to snatch those kids and slap him in cuffs. In neither of those cases does anyone say, "Oh, well, he didn't touch anyone, so it's no big deal." Only when the penis-bearer in question is "transgender" is it suddenly not sexual abuse.

Fuck that hypocritical bullshit.

Why do you make shit up?! I’ve said several times that exposing a penis to little girls in a public Locker room is totally inappropriate. I’ve said the situation in the OP was inappropriate. so why do you lie and pretend that ive been defending it?! Also to presume I was molested as a child is sick ridiculous and shameful.

You are LGTBQ. Rest I do not know about not care

Your utter ignorance is a crack up!!

You spelled truth incorrectly. But I ll go along. How exactly am I ignorant? Be specific

You said I’m LGTBQ. You’re ignorant and wrong as always

How does that make me ignorant? Why are you ashamed of that? You do you

I have no doubt that a trans woman in a mens lockerroom is much more likely to be abused than a trans woman abusing straight girls in a women’s room. I would agree with you there

The mere presence of men in a women's restroom, locker room, dressing room, etc., is abusive to any women or girls whose privacy and modesty are violated thereby.

You cannot advocate allowing mentally- and morally-degenerate male perverts the “right” to intrude in such places, and at the same time honesty deny that what you are advocating is the sexual abuse of women and girls.

Men have a duty to protect women and girls from such abuse, not to enable it.

Are trans women molesting little girls? Cause I haven’t heard of that being an issue. You know where I have heard of there being problems with child molestation… in the Catholic Church and Boy Scouts. How about you direct you anger in more appropriate places

Molesting? How about throwing their shlong out. That’s enough. Not appropriate. Well not to normal people. You being LGTBQ are fine with it

I realize that Slade - who pretty clearly had something happen in his own childhood that only his therapist needs to hear about - won't understand this, but exposing your genitals to children IS a form of sexual abuse. If some sicko goes to a playground in a trenchcoat and whips it open to flash his junk at kids, the cops arrest him and put him on the sex offender registry. If a father insists on walking around the house naked in front of his children, Child Protective Services shows up at his house with the cops to snatch those kids and slap him in cuffs. In neither of those cases does anyone say, "Oh, well, he didn't touch anyone, so it's no big deal." Only when the penis-bearer in question is "transgender" is it suddenly not sexual abuse.

Fuck that hypocritical bullshSpade

I have no doubt that a trans woman in a mens lockerroom is much more likely to be abused than a trans woman abusing straight girls in a women’s room. I would agree with you there

The mere presence of men in a women's restroom, locker room, dressing room, etc., is abusive to any women or girls whose privacy and modesty are violated thereby.

You cannot advocate allowing mentally- and morally-degenerate male perverts the “right” to intrude in such places, and at the same time honesty deny that what you are advocating is the sexual abuse of women and girls.

Men have a duty to protect women and girls from such abuse, not to enable it.

Are trans women molesting little girls? Cause I haven’t heard of that being an issue. You know where I have heard of there being problems with child molestation… in the Catholic Church and Boy Scouts. How about you direct you anger in more appropriate places

Molesting? How about throwing their shlong out. That’s enough. Not appropriate. Well not to normal people. You being LGTBQ are fine with it

I realize that Slade - who pretty clearly had something happen in his own childhood that only his therapist needs to hear about - won't understand this, but exposing your genitals to children IS a form of sexual abuse. If some sicko goes to a playground in a trenchcoat and whips it open to flash his junk at kids, the cops arrest him and put him on the sex offender registry. If a father insists on walking around the house naked in front of his children, Child Protective Services shows up at his house with the cops to snatch those kids and slap him in cuffs. In neither of those cases does anyone say, "Oh, well, he didn't touch anyone, so it's no big deal." Only when the penis-bearer in question is "transgender" is it suddenly not sexual abuse.

Fuck that hypocritical bullshit.

Why do you make shit up?! I’ve said several times that exposing a penis to little girls in a public Locker room is totally inappropriate. I’ve said the situation in the OP was inappropriate. so why do you lie and pretend that ive been defending it?! Also to presume I was molested as a child is sick ridiculous and shameful.

Sale

I have no doubt that a trans woman in a mens lockerroom is much more likely to be abused than a trans woman abusing straight girls in a women’s room. I would agree with you there

The mere presence of men in a women's restroom, locker room, dressing room, etc., is abusive to any women or girls whose privacy and modesty are violated thereby.

You cannot advocate allowing mentally- and morally-degenerate male perverts the “right” to intrude in such places, and at the same time honesty deny that what you are advocating is the sexual abuse of women and girls.

Men have a duty to protect women and girls from such abuse, not to enable it.

Are trans women molesting little girls? Cause I haven’t heard of that being an issue. You know where I have heard of there being problems with child molestation… in the Catholic Church and Boy Scouts. How about you direct you anger in more appropriate places

Molesting? How about throwing their shlong out. That’s enough. Not appropriate. Well not to normal people. You being LGTBQ are fine with it

I realize that Slade - who pretty clearly had something happen in his own childhood that only his therapist needs to hear about - won't understand this, but exposing your genitals to children IS a form of sexual abuse. If some sicko goes to a playground in a trenchcoat and whips it open to flash his junk at kids, the cops arrest him and put him on the sex offender registry. If a father insists on walking around the house naked in front of his children, Child Protective Services shows up at his house with the cops to snatch those kids and slap him in cuffs. In neither of those cases does anyone say, "Oh, well, he didn't touch anyone, so it's no big deal." Only when the penis-bearer in question is "transgender" is it suddenly not sexual abuse.

Fuck that hypocritical bullshit.

Why do you make shit up?! I’ve said several times that exposing a penis to little girls in a public Locker room is totally inappropriate. I’ve said the situation in the OP was inappropriate. so why do you lie and pretend that ive been defending it?! Also to presume I was molested as a child is sick ridiculous and shameful.

You are LGTBQ. Rest I do not know about not care

Your utter ignorance is a crack up!!

You spelled truth incorrectly. But I ll go along. How exactly am I ignorant? Be specific

You said I’m LGTBQ. You’re ignorant and wrong as always

How does that make me ignorant? Why are you ashamed of that? You do you…

Well AzOg… you don’t know me, yet you presume to know that I’m LGBTQ, which you then incorrectly proclaim about me. So that pretty much fits the definition of both ignorant and troll

I asked you and you played coy. If you asked me, I'd simply say "no". You could not do that so I took that as a "yes". Not sure how that makes me ignorant or a troll but you do you.

 

[Slade3200]

It’s the definition of

I have no doubt that a trans woman in a mens lockerroom is much more likely to be abused than a trans woman abusing straight girls in a women’s room. I would agree with you there

The mere presence of men in a women's restroom, locker room, dressing room, etc., is abusive to any women or girls whose privacy and modesty are violated thereby.

You cannot advocate allowing mentally- and morally-degenerate male perverts the “right” to intrude in such places, and at the same time honesty deny that what you are advocating is the sexual abuse of women and girls.

Men have a duty to protect women and girls from such abuse, not to enable it.

Are trans women molesting little girls? Cause I haven’t heard of that being an issue. You know where I have heard of there being problems with child molestation… in the Catholic Church and Boy Scouts. How about you direct you anger in more appropriate places

Molesting? How about throwing their shlong out. That’s enough. Not appropriate. Well not to normal people. You being LGTBQ are fine with it

I realize that Slade - who pretty clearly had something happen in his own childhood that only his therapist needs to hear about - won't understand this, but exposing your genitals to children IS a form of sexual abuse. If some sicko goes to a playground in a trenchcoat and whips it open to flash his junk at kids, the cops arrest him and put him on the sex offender registry. If a father insists on walking around the house naked in front of his children, Child Protective Services shows up at his house with the cops to snatch those kids and slap him in cuffs. In neither of those cases does anyone say, "Oh, well, he didn't touch anyone, so it's no big deal." Only when the penis-bearer in question is "transgender" is it suddenly not sexual abuse.

Fuck that hypocritical bullshSpade

I have no doubt that a trans woman in a mens lockerroom is much more likely to be abused than a trans woman abusing straight girls in a women’s room. I would agree with you there

The mere presence of men in a women's restroom, locker room, dressing room, etc., is abusive to any women or girls whose privacy and modesty are violated thereby.

You cannot advocate allowing mentally- and morally-degenerate male perverts the “right” to intrude in such places, and at the same time honesty deny that what you are advocating is the sexual abuse of women and girls.

Men have a duty to protect women and girls from such abuse, not to enable it.

Are trans women molesting little girls? Cause I haven’t heard of that being an issue. You know where I have heard of there being problems with child molestation… in the Catholic Church and Boy Scouts. How about you direct you anger in more appropriate places

Molesting? How about throwing their shlong out. That’s enough. Not appropriate. Well not to normal people. You being LGTBQ are fine with it

I realize that Slade - who pretty clearly had something happen in his own childhood that only his therapist needs to hear about - won't understand this, but exposing your genitals to children IS a form of sexual abuse. If some sicko goes to a playground in a trenchcoat and whips it open to flash his junk at kids, the cops arrest him and put him on the sex offender registry. If a father insists on walking around the house naked in front of his children, Child Protective Services shows up at his house with the cops to snatch those kids and slap him in cuffs. In neither of those cases does anyone say, "Oh, well, he didn't touch anyone, so it's no big deal." Only when the penis-bearer in question is "transgender" is it suddenly not sexual abuse.

Fuck that hypocritical bullshit.

Why do you make shit up?! I’ve said several times that exposing a penis to little girls in a public Locker room is totally inappropriate. I’ve said the situation in the OP was inappropriate. so why do you lie and pretend that ive been defending it?! Also to presume I was molested as a child is sick ridiculous and shameful.

Sale

I have no doubt that a trans woman in a mens lockerroom is much more likely to be abused than a trans woman abusing straight girls in a women’s room. I would agree with you there

The mere presence of men in a women's restroom, locker room, dressing room, etc., is abusive to any women or girls whose privacy and modesty are violated thereby.

You cannot advocate allowing mentally- and morally-degenerate male perverts the “right” to intrude in such places, and at the same time honesty deny that what you are advocating is the sexual abuse of women and girls.

Men have a duty to protect women and girls from such abuse, not to enable it.

Are trans women molesting little girls? Cause I haven’t heard of that being an issue. You know where I have heard of there being problems with child molestation… in the Catholic Church and Boy Scouts. How about you direct you anger in more appropriate places

Molesting? How about throwing their shlong out. That’s enough. Not appropriate. Well not to normal people. You being LGTBQ are fine with it

I realize that Slade - who pretty clearly had something happen in his own childhood that only his therapist needs to hear about - won't understand this, but exposing your genitals to children IS a form of sexual abuse. If some sicko goes to a playground in a trenchcoat and whips it open to flash his junk at kids, the cops arrest him and put him on the sex offender registry. If a father insists on walking around the house naked in front of his children, Child Protective Services shows up at his house with the cops to snatch those kids and slap him in cuffs. In neither of those cases does anyone say, "Oh, well, he didn't touch anyone, so it's no big deal." Only when the penis-bearer in question is "transgender" is it suddenly not sexual abuse.

Fuck that hypocritical bullshit.

Why do you make shit up?! I’ve said several times that exposing a penis to little girls in a public Locker room is totally inappropriate. I’ve said the situation in the OP was inappropriate. so why do you lie and pretend that ive been defending it?! Also to presume I was molested as a child is sick ridiculous and shameful.

You are LGTBQ. Rest I do not know about not care

Your utter ignorance is a crack up!!

You spelled truth incorrectly. But I ll go along. How exactly am I ignorant? Be specific

You said I’m LGTBQ. You’re ignorant and wrong as always

How does that make me ignorant? Why are you ashamed of that? You do you

I have no doubt that a trans woman in a mens lockerroom is much more likely to be abused than a trans woman abusing straight girls in a women’s room. I would agree with you there

The mere presence of men in a women's restroom, locker room, dressing room, etc., is abusive to any women or girls whose privacy and modesty are violated thereby.

You cannot advocate allowing mentally- and morally-degenerate male perverts the “right” to intrude in such places, and at the same time honesty deny that what you are advocating is the sexual abuse of women and girls.

Men have a duty to protect women and girls from such abuse, not to enable it.

Are trans women molesting little girls? Cause I haven’t heard of that being an issue. You know where I have heard of there being problems with child molestation… in the Catholic Church and Boy Scouts. How about you direct you anger in more appropriate places

Molesting? How about throwing their shlong out. That’s enough. Not appropriate. Well not to normal people. You being LGTBQ are fine with it

I realize that Slade - who pretty clearly had something happen in his own childhood that only his therapist needs to hear about - won't understand this, but exposing your genitals to children IS a form of sexual abuse. If some sicko goes to a playground in a trenchcoat and whips it open to flash his junk at kids, the cops arrest him and put him on the sex offender registry. If a father insists on walking around the house naked in front of his children, Child Protective Services shows up at his house with the cops to snatch those kids and slap him in cuffs. In neither of those cases does anyone say, "Oh, well, he didn't touch anyone, so it's no big deal." Only when the penis-bearer in question is "transgender" is it suddenly not sexual abuse.

Fuck that hypocritical bullshSpade

I have no doubt that a trans woman in a mens lockerroom is much more likely to be abused than a trans woman abusing straight girls in a women’s room. I would agree with you there

The mere presence of men in a women's restroom, locker room, dressing room, etc., is abusive to any women or girls whose privacy and modesty are violated thereby.

You cannot advocate allowing mentally- and morally-degenerate male perverts the “right” to intrude in such places, and at the same time honesty deny that what you are advocating is the sexual abuse of women and girls.

Men have a duty to protect women and girls from such abuse, not to enable it.

Are trans women molesting little girls? Cause I haven’t heard of that being an issue. You know where I have heard of there being problems with child molestation… in the Catholic Church and Boy Scouts. How about you direct you anger in more appropriate places

Molesting? How about throwing their shlong out. That’s enough. Not appropriate. Well not to normal people. You being LGTBQ are fine with it

I realize that Slade - who pretty clearly had something happen in his own childhood that only his therapist needs to hear about - won't understand this, but exposing your genitals to children IS a form of sexual abuse. If some sicko goes to a playground in a trenchcoat and whips it open to flash his junk at kids, the cops arrest him and put him on the sex offender registry. If a father insists on walking around the house naked in front of his children, Child Protective Services shows up at his house with the cops to snatch those kids and slap him in cuffs. In neither of those cases does anyone say, "Oh, well, he didn't touch anyone, so it's no big deal." Only when the penis-bearer in question is "transgender" is it suddenly not sexual abuse.

Fuck that hypocritical bullshit.

Why do you make shit up?! I’ve said several times that exposing a penis to little girls in a public Locker room is totally inappropriate. I’ve said the situation in the OP was inappropriate. so why do you lie and pretend that ive been defending it?! Also to presume I was molested as a child is sick ridiculous and shameful.

Sale

I have no doubt that a trans woman in a mens lockerroom is much more likely to be abused than a trans woman abusing straight girls in a women’s room. I would agree with you there

The mere presence of men in a women's restroom, locker room, dressing room, etc., is abusive to any women or girls whose privacy and modesty are violated thereby.

You cannot advocate allowing mentally- and morally-degenerate male perverts the “right” to intrude in such places, and at the same time honesty deny that what you are advocating is the sexual abuse of women and girls.

Men have a duty to protect women and girls from such abuse, not to enable it.

Are trans women molesting little girls? Cause I haven’t heard of that being an issue. You know where I have heard of there being problems with child molestation… in the Catholic Church and Boy Scouts. How about you direct you anger in more appropriate places

Molesting? How about throwing their shlong out. That’s enough. Not appropriate. Well not to normal people. You being LGTBQ are fine with it

I realize that Slade - who pretty clearly had something happen in his own childhood that only his therapist needs to hear about - won't understand this, but exposing your genitals to children IS a form of sexual abuse. If some sicko goes to a playground in a trenchcoat and whips it open to flash his junk at kids, the cops arrest him and put him on the sex offender registry. If a father insists on walking around the house naked in front of his children, Child Protective Services shows up at his house with the cops to snatch those kids and slap him in cuffs. In neither of those cases does anyone say, "Oh, well, he didn't touch anyone, so it's no big deal." Only when the penis-bearer in question is "transgender" is it suddenly not sexual abuse.

Fuck that hypocritical bullshit.

Why do you make shit up?! I’ve said several times that exposing a penis to little girls in a public Locker room is totally inappropriate. I’ve said the situation in the OP was inappropriate. so why do you lie and pretend that ive been defending it?! Also to presume I was molested as a child is sick ridiculous and shameful.

You are LGTBQ. Rest I do not know about not care

Your utter ignorance is a crack up!!

You spelled truth incorrectly. But I ll go along. How exactly am I ignorant? Be specific

You said I’m LGTBQ. You’re ignorant and wrong as always

How does that make me ignorant? Why are you ashamed of that? You do you…

Well AzOg… you don’t know me, yet you presume to know that I’m LGBTQ, which you then incorrectly proclaim about me. So that pretty much fits the definition of both ignorant and troll

I asked you and you played coy. If you asked me, I'd simply say "no". You could not do that so I took that as a "yes". Not sure how that makes me ignorant or a troll but you do you.

Right so that was you being presumptive and ignorant. Ignorant because you made proclamation without confirmation that it was true and a troll because you made a statement about somebody else without knowing it to be true. I know you think you got things all figured out but you're wrong more often then not when you pretend to speak for others. Probably best not to do that.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Now calling someone with a penis a boy and or man is due religion and monarchy?

You [Slade3200] are mentally ill

 

[Dadoalex]

we on the left don't understand what your whining about here or what you want us to defend.

This is just another culture war bullshit thread for your maga fuckup authoritarians.

Would you want your young daughters to share a locker room with that person?

It sounds like some asshole was showing off his penis, but you want to elevate it into something else.

That "asshole" is identifying as a woman and the club is defending him as I understand it.

Where is the evidence of that? There’s nothing in the story indicates that the spa was defending him or what happened as a result of this intrusion.

Once again you’re projecting your own paranoia and assumptions onto the situation because TRANNIES!!!!!!!

Sounds like an intruder. Why wasn't he arrested? Do they have security?

My God, do ANY of you people bother to find out what you're talking about before you start talking? Do you even understand the concept?

It's a gym. The penis-bearer in question is a member of the gym. He identifies as a woman, so he does his showering and changing in the women's locker room, rather than the men's. The gym staff refused to do anything about the female member's complaint because he identifies as a woman.

Thanks.. Sounds like the woman should quit and ask for her money back.

Apparently, she and another woman did. But what happens when the next gym has the same issue, and the next, and the next, because dipshit leftists in California have made it illegal for women to have private spaces separate from delusional penis-bearers?

Hmmm .. Maybe she should see a lawyer .. Her rights are being trampled.

Typical leftist. "We'll just rearrange everything to fit the reality we wish existed. Then we'll suggest that everyone who doesn't like it marginalize themselves out of normal life. THEN we'll suggest that they spend time and money fighting legal battles against the mess we've made, which they can't win because we passed asinine laws demanding our stupid fantasies. Then we'll all act bewildered by the damage that we've caused and try to find someone else to blame for it."

OF COURSE HER RIGHTS ARE BEING TRAMPLED, you dungbrain. EVERY woman's rights are being trampled by this "transgender" lunacy, and everyone on the right TOLD you they were going to be trampled from the get-go.

Here's a suggestion for you, Sparky: Maybe the shitbrains on the left should learn to suck it up and accept reality, so they can stop trying to force their mental illnesses on the rest of us. Maybe states like California should stop demanding that everyone has to pretend that people with penises are or can be women, and go back to arresting anyone with a dick who goes into the ladies' room. And maybe leftists should start fucking LISTENING when people on the right tell them that they're out of their fucking minds.

That's just off the top of my head, though.

So don't hire a lawyer.. Quit the spa.. If enough women agree with you and quit, they will take care of it themselves. Vote with your feet. Vote with your pocketbook.

That is what is happening as I understand it

Again, the question is, where are they supposed to go? Where are they going to find, in the state of California, a gym that doesn't allow men to dangle their dicks in the ladies' locker room?

Allowing transgendered people into locker rooms, it’s not a license for men to expose their penises to women in those locker rooms. Transgender people use the stalls and change rooms provided for privacy for women in any gym throughout North America.

I don't even know where to start with this level of abysmal ignorance proudly proclaiming itself to be intelligence, I really don't.

I am going to do you an enormous favor of which you are not even remotely worthy, and which I sincerely doubt you have the ability to use. I'm going to break this down and explain to you the reality you have so stubbornly and persistently avoided so that it won't get in the way of what you want to believe. No need to thank me.

1) People get naked in locker rooms. That is what locker rooms are FOR. One goes to the locker room at a gym to change from their street clothes to their workout clothes, and then to shower off the sweat after they exercise and change back to their street clothes. Showering and changing clothes, by definition, involves being naked at some point in time.

2) Allowing transgenders into the women's locker room, therefore, DOES allow them to get naked in that locker room, because why else would you allow them in there at all? To sightsee? That's no less creepy, completely aside from being ridiculous.

3) Your assertion that all "real" transgender people change in the stalls and are terribly modest and shy and ashamed about their bodies until they've been fully surgically altered is based on absolutely nothing in reality. I get that you wanted to imagine that it worked that way, because it makes them sound like they're all poor, tortured little victims you can feel sorry for and make asinine demands on behalf of, thereby letting you feel virtuous at the expense of other people's discomfort. Hate to break it to you, but that ain't how it is at all.

First of all, full "gender affirmation" surgery is EXTREMELY expensive. It's also typically done over an extended period of time, and usually after a certain amount of time spent on hormones. Partly that's because of the expense, but a big part of it is that no surgeon wants to cause that much trauma to a body all at once, and put a patient through that much pain and recovery all at once. In the interim, the transitioning person doesn't just lock himself in a room and do nothing; he goes about his regular life.

Second, transgender people are . . . people. As such, they are differing and complex and come in a wide variety of personality types, motivations, etc. Not all of them WANT the complete transition surgery. Not all of them want ANY surgery. Some of them are good with just the hormones; some are good with just changing their names and pronouns and cross-dressing. I can assure you that the transgender community considers all of that to still be "real transgenderism", and would kick your butt up and down the street for presuming to decide for someone else that it isn't.

Also, in with that whole "people" thing is the fact that some people who are transgender are assholes, just like some of any group you care to name are assholes. Being transgender doesn't make you immune from being a jerk, and it doesn't make you immune from being a pervert or a predator. I have known a number of people in the transgender community who get a special charge out of "freaking the mundanes". They LIKE displaying the fact that they're dressing and identifying the opposite of their birth gender to regular people and provoking a reaction. There's actually a contingent of these people in all segments of the LGBTQ community, as well as the BDSM community. Hell, that's a huge reason that Pride parades exist, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Also, being transgender doesn't mean a person can't also have an exhibitionist fetish and get off on flashing people, just the same as the stereotypical guy in the trench coat on the playground does.

4) Whether the guy in the locker room is actually transgender, in the sense that he routinely identifies as female in myriad aspects of his life, or is just a predator using transgender claims as a dodge to get in the women's locker room, there are two operative points here that you're skating past: the transgender activist agenda demands that nothing more is required than for someone to declare that they are this or that gender to make it true, and the law in California specifically prohibits anyone - including law enforcement - from questioning or challenging his identification as a woman in any way. The Wi Spa doesn't seem to particularly WANT to challenge it, but even if they did, they couldn't do so legally. They can't do a damned thing about him until such time as he physically harms someone, or they open themselves up to fines and lawsuits.

Oh, there's one other point here that you shouldn't miss: We told you this exact thing was going to be the result of the transgender agenda you were so eager to endorse so that you could feel "compassionate". Let's don't ever forget that we said it, you dismissed it, and you were dead wrong.

You are wholly ignorant of the mental workings of Trans people.

How do you know their mental workings?

I don't claim to "know."
I know several Trans people. We've talked.
I do know that you people know NOTHING of their mentality beyond your own perceived perversions.

Of course you do. You’re the utmost expert. Please STFU and stop hijacking this thread

You're whining at the wrong party. All I do is respond to posts. If you want to bitch take it up with your fellows.

Whining? You don’t know the meaning of the word. You are pathetic. Get lost. You cannot defend what happened so you deflect.

You mean I need to defend what you imagined in your Tiny Brain?
Your OP was literally fact free.
Allegation by some "KAREN," no video, no other witnesses, no perp, no victim....

So you justifiy what you imagined and why you imagine such sick crap 24x7 AND
How your imaginings qualify you as your state's official pecker checker!

There was a video. It was corroborated. You are a moron.

A video of a woman complaining about something.
Corroborated by people who saw the woman complaining.

So how's that pecker checker training coming. Always good to see someone pursuing a lifelong dream.

No one is disputing her story and there were other witnesses, caddo kid.

I'm not disputing.
Just pointing out how incomplete it is.
And those other witnesses just saw the woman complaining.
So...

Her kids saw it too!!! That’s why she is so angry.

And you know that because...
SHE TOLD YOU!
Geez!

Because that’s why she is upset and the kid is like 12 not 2. She corroborated it.

You mean she said what Mommy told her to say?!?!?!

REALLLY?!?!?!

Geez! You people are just dumb.

 

[Dadoalex]

we on the left don't understand what your whining about here or what you want us to defend.

This is just another culture war bullshit thread for your maga fuckup authoritarians.

Would you want your young daughters to share a locker room with that person?

It sounds like some asshole was showing off his penis, but you want to elevate it into something else.

That "asshole" is identifying as a woman and the club is defending him as I understand it.

Where is the evidence of that? There’s nothing in the story indicates that the spa was defending him or what happened as a result of this intrusion.

Once again you’re projecting your own paranoia and assumptions onto the situation because TRANNIES!!!!!!!

Sounds like an intruder. Why wasn't he arrested? Do they have security?

My God, do ANY of you people bother to find out what you're talking about before you start talking? Do you even understand the concept?

It's a gym. The penis-bearer in question is a member of the gym. He identifies as a woman, so he does his showering and changing in the women's locker room, rather than the men's. The gym staff refused to do anything about the female member's complaint because he identifies as a woman.

Thanks.. Sounds like the woman should quit and ask for her money back.

Apparently, she and another woman did. But what happens when the next gym has the same issue, and the next, and the next, because dipshit leftists in California have made it illegal for women to have private spaces separate from delusional penis-bearers?

Hmmm .. Maybe she should see a lawyer .. Her rights are being trampled.

Typical leftist. "We'll just rearrange everything to fit the reality we wish existed. Then we'll suggest that everyone who doesn't like it marginalize themselves out of normal life. THEN we'll suggest that they spend time and money fighting legal battles against the mess we've made, which they can't win because we passed asinine laws demanding our stupid fantasies. Then we'll all act bewildered by the damage that we've caused and try to find someone else to blame for it."

OF COURSE HER RIGHTS ARE BEING TRAMPLED, you dungbrain. EVERY woman's rights are being trampled by this "transgender" lunacy, and everyone on the right TOLD you they were going to be trampled from the get-go.

Here's a suggestion for you, Sparky: Maybe the shitbrains on the left should learn to suck it up and accept reality, so they can stop trying to force their mental illnesses on the rest of us. Maybe states like California should stop demanding that everyone has to pretend that people with penises are or can be women, and go back to arresting anyone with a dick who goes into the ladies' room. And maybe leftists should start fucking LISTENING when people on the right tell them that they're out of their fucking minds.

That's just off the top of my head, though.

So don't hire a lawyer.. Quit the spa.. If enough women agree with you and quit, they will take care of it themselves. Vote with your feet. Vote with your pocketbook.

That is what is happening as I understand it

Again, the question is, where are they supposed to go? Where are they going to find, in the state of California, a gym that doesn't allow men to dangle their dicks in the ladies' locker room?

Allowing transgendered people into locker rooms, it’s not a license for men to expose their penises to women in those locker rooms. Transgender people use the stalls and change rooms provided for privacy for women in any gym throughout North America.

I don't even know where to start with this level of abysmal ignorance proudly proclaiming itself to be intelligence, I really don't.

I am going to do you an enormous favor of which you are not even remotely worthy, and which I sincerely doubt you have the ability to use. I'm going to break this down and explain to you the reality you have so stubbornly and persistently avoided so that it won't get in the way of what you want to believe. No need to thank me.

1) People get naked in locker rooms. That is what locker rooms are FOR. One goes to the locker room at a gym to change from their street clothes to their workout clothes, and then to shower off the sweat after they exercise and change back to their street clothes. Showering and changing clothes, by definition, involves being naked at some point in time.

2) Allowing transgenders into the women's locker room, therefore, DOES allow them to get naked in that locker room, because why else would you allow them in there at all? To sightsee? That's no less creepy, completely aside from being ridiculous.

3) Your assertion that all "real" transgender people change in the stalls and are terribly modest and shy and ashamed about their bodies until they've been fully surgically altered is based on absolutely nothing in reality. I get that you wanted to imagine that it worked that way, because it makes them sound like they're all poor, tortured little victims you can feel sorry for and make asinine demands on behalf of, thereby letting you feel virtuous at the expense of other people's discomfort. Hate to break it to you, but that ain't how it is at all.

First of all, full "gender affirmation" surgery is EXTREMELY expensive. It's also typically done over an extended period of time, and usually after a certain amount of time spent on hormones. Partly that's because of the expense, but a big part of it is that no surgeon wants to cause that much trauma to a body all at once, and put a patient through that much pain and recovery all at once. In the interim, the transitioning person doesn't just lock himself in a room and do nothing; he goes about his regular life.

Second, transgender people are . . . people. As such, they are differing and complex and come in a wide variety of personality types, motivations, etc. Not all of them WANT the complete transition surgery. Not all of them want ANY surgery. Some of them are good with just the hormones; some are good with just changing their names and pronouns and cross-dressing. I can assure you that the transgender community considers all of that to still be "real transgenderism", and would kick your butt up and down the street for presuming to decide for someone else that it isn't.

Also, in with that whole "people" thing is the fact that some people who are transgender are assholes, just like some of any group you care to name are assholes. Being transgender doesn't make you immune from being a jerk, and it doesn't make you immune from being a pervert or a predator. I have known a number of people in the transgender community who get a special charge out of "freaking the mundanes". They LIKE displaying the fact that they're dressing and identifying the opposite of their birth gender to regular people and provoking a reaction. There's actually a contingent of these people in all segments of the LGBTQ community, as well as the BDSM community. Hell, that's a huge reason that Pride parades exist, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Also, being transgender doesn't mean a person can't also have an exhibitionist fetish and get off on flashing people, just the same as the stereotypical guy in the trench coat on the playground does.

4) Whether the guy in the locker room is actually transgender, in the sense that he routinely identifies as female in myriad aspects of his life, or is just a predator using transgender claims as a dodge to get in the women's locker room, there are two operative points here that you're skating past: the transgender activist agenda demands that nothing more is required than for someone to declare that they are this or that gender to make it true, and the law in California specifically prohibits anyone - including law enforcement - from questioning or challenging his identification as a woman in any way. The Wi Spa doesn't seem to particularly WANT to challenge it, but even if they did, they couldn't do so legally. They can't do a damned thing about him until such time as he physically harms someone, or they open themselves up to fines and lawsuits.

Oh, there's one other point here that you shouldn't miss: We told you this exact thing was going to be the result of the transgender agenda you were so eager to endorse so that you could feel "compassionate". Let's don't ever forget that we said it, you dismissed it, and you were dead wrong.

You are wholly ignorant of the mental workings of Trans people.

How do you know their mental workings?

I don't claim to "know."
I know several Trans people. We've talked.
I do know that you people know NOTHING of their mentality beyond your own perceived perversions.

Of course you do. You’re the utmost expert. Please STFU and stop hijacking this thread

You're whining at the wrong party. All I do is respond to posts. If you want to bitch take it up with your fellows.

Whining? You don’t know the meaning of the word. You are pathetic. Get lost. You cannot defend what happened so you deflect.

You mean I need to defend what you imagined in your Tiny Brain?
Your OP was literally fact free.
Allegation by some "KAREN," no video, no other witnesses, no perp, no victim....

So you justifiy what you imagined and why you imagine such sick crap 24x7 AND
How your imaginings qualify you as your state's official pecker checker!

There was a video. It was corroborated. You are a moron.

A video of a woman complaining about something.
Corroborated by people who saw the woman complaining.

So how's that pecker checker training coming. Always good to see someone pursuing a lifelong dream.

No one is disputing her story and there were other witnesses, caddo kid.

I'm not disputing.
Just pointing out how incomplete it is.
And those other witnesses just saw the woman complaining.
So...

Her kids saw it too!!! That’s why she is so angry.

Maybe she should have just pointed and laughed. Might have gotten his junk covered up faster.

Maybe she she could just imagine she pointed and laughed just like she did the rest of this fantasy.

Troll alert. This how your caddo kid account got banned.

Go complain.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

we on the left don't understand what your whining about here or what you want us to defend.

This is just another culture war bullshit thread for your maga fuckup authoritarians.

Would you want your young daughters to share a locker room with that person?

It sounds like some asshole was showing off his penis, but you want to elevate it into something else.

That "asshole" is identifying as a woman and the club is defending him as I understand it.

Where is the evidence of that? There’s nothing in the story indicates that the spa was defending him or what happened as a result of this intrusion.

Once again you’re projecting your own paranoia and assumptions onto the situation because TRANNIES!!!!!!!

Sounds like an intruder. Why wasn't he arrested? Do they have security?

My God, do ANY of you people bother to find out what you're talking about before you start talking? Do you even understand the concept?

It's a gym. The penis-bearer in question is a member of the gym. He identifies as a woman, so he does his showering and changing in the women's locker room, rather than the men's. The gym staff refused to do anything about the female member's complaint because he identifies as a woman.

Thanks.. Sounds like the woman should quit and ask for her money back.

Apparently, she and another woman did. But what happens when the next gym has the same issue, and the next, and the next, because dipshit leftists in California have made it illegal for women to have private spaces separate from delusional penis-bearers?

Hmmm .. Maybe she should see a lawyer .. Her rights are being trampled.

Typical leftist. "We'll just rearrange everything to fit the reality we wish existed. Then we'll suggest that everyone who doesn't like it marginalize themselves out of normal life. THEN we'll suggest that they spend time and money fighting legal battles against the mess we've made, which they can't win because we passed asinine laws demanding our stupid fantasies. Then we'll all act bewildered by the damage that we've caused and try to find someone else to blame for it."

OF COURSE HER RIGHTS ARE BEING TRAMPLED, you dungbrain. EVERY woman's rights are being trampled by this "transgender" lunacy, and everyone on the right TOLD you they were going to be trampled from the get-go.

Here's a suggestion for you, Sparky: Maybe the shitbrains on the left should learn to suck it up and accept reality, so they can stop trying to force their mental illnesses on the rest of us. Maybe states like California should stop demanding that everyone has to pretend that people with penises are or can be women, and go back to arresting anyone with a dick who goes into the ladies' room. And maybe leftists should start fucking LISTENING when people on the right tell them that they're out of their fucking minds.

That's just off the top of my head, though.

So don't hire a lawyer.. Quit the spa.. If enough women agree with you and quit, they will take care of it themselves. Vote with your feet. Vote with your pocketbook.

That is what is happening as I understand it

Again, the question is, where are they supposed to go? Where are they going to find, in the state of California, a gym that doesn't allow men to dangle their dicks in the ladies' locker room?

Allowing transgendered people into locker rooms, it’s not a license for men to expose their penises to women in those locker rooms. Transgender people use the stalls and change rooms provided for privacy for women in any gym throughout North America.

I don't even know where to start with this level of abysmal ignorance proudly proclaiming itself to be intelligence, I really don't.

I am going to do you an enormous favor of which you are not even remotely worthy, and which I sincerely doubt you have the ability to use. I'm going to break this down and explain to you the reality you have so stubbornly and persistently avoided so that it won't get in the way of what you want to believe. No need to thank me.

1) People get naked in locker rooms. That is what locker rooms are FOR. One goes to the locker room at a gym to change from their street clothes to their workout clothes, and then to shower off the sweat after they exercise and change back to their street clothes. Showering and changing clothes, by definition, involves being naked at some point in time.

2) Allowing transgenders into the women's locker room, therefore, DOES allow them to get naked in that locker room, because why else would you allow them in there at all? To sightsee? That's no less creepy, completely aside from being ridiculous.

3) Your assertion that all "real" transgender people change in the stalls and are terribly modest and shy and ashamed about their bodies until they've been fully surgically altered is based on absolutely nothing in reality. I get that you wanted to imagine that it worked that way, because it makes them sound like they're all poor, tortured little victims you can feel sorry for and make asinine demands on behalf of, thereby letting you feel virtuous at the expense of other people's discomfort. Hate to break it to you, but that ain't how it is at all.

First of all, full "gender affirmation" surgery is EXTREMELY expensive. It's also typically done over an extended period of time, and usually after a certain amount of time spent on hormones. Partly that's because of the expense, but a big part of it is that no surgeon wants to cause that much trauma to a body all at once, and put a patient through that much pain and recovery all at once. In the interim, the transitioning person doesn't just lock himself in a room and do nothing; he goes about his regular life.

Second, transgender people are . . . people. As such, they are differing and complex and come in a wide variety of personality types, motivations, etc. Not all of them WANT the complete transition surgery. Not all of them want ANY surgery. Some of them are good with just the hormones; some are good with just changing their names and pronouns and cross-dressing. I can assure you that the transgender community considers all of that to still be "real transgenderism", and would kick your butt up and down the street for presuming to decide for someone else that it isn't.

Also, in with that whole "people" thing is the fact that some people who are transgender are assholes, just like some of any group you care to name are assholes. Being transgender doesn't make you immune from being a jerk, and it doesn't make you immune from being a pervert or a predator. I have known a number of people in the transgender community who get a special charge out of "freaking the mundanes". They LIKE displaying the fact that they're dressing and identifying the opposite of their birth gender to regular people and provoking a reaction. There's actually a contingent of these people in all segments of the LGBTQ community, as well as the BDSM community. Hell, that's a huge reason that Pride parades exist, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Also, being transgender doesn't mean a person can't also have an exhibitionist fetish and get off on flashing people, just the same as the stereotypical guy in the trench coat on the playground does.

4) Whether the guy in the locker room is actually transgender, in the sense that he routinely identifies as female in myriad aspects of his life, or is just a predator using transgender claims as a dodge to get in the women's locker room, there are two operative points here that you're skating past: the transgender activist agenda demands that nothing more is required than for someone to declare that they are this or that gender to make it true, and the law in California specifically prohibits anyone - including law enforcement - from questioning or challenging his identification as a woman in any way. The Wi Spa doesn't seem to particularly WANT to challenge it, but even if they did, they couldn't do so legally. They can't do a damned thing about him until such time as he physically harms someone, or they open themselves up to fines and lawsuits.

Oh, there's one other point here that you shouldn't miss: We told you this exact thing was going to be the result of the transgender agenda you were so eager to endorse so that you could feel "compassionate". Let's don't ever forget that we said it, you dismissed it, and you were dead wrong.

You are wholly ignorant of the mental workings of Trans people.

How do you know their mental workings?

I don't claim to "know."
I know several Trans people. We've talked.
I do know that you people know NOTHING of their mentality beyond your own perceived perversions.

Of course you do. You’re the utmost expert. Please STFU and stop hijacking this thread

You're whining at the wrong party. All I do is respond to posts. If you want to bitch take it up with your fellows.

Whining? You don’t know the meaning of the word. You are pathetic. Get lost. You cannot defend what happened so you deflect.

You mean I need to defend what you imagined in your Tiny Brain?
Your OP was literally fact free.
Allegation by some "KAREN," no video, no other witnesses, no perp, no victim....

So you justifiy what you imagined and why you imagine such sick crap 24x7 AND
How your imaginings qualify you as your state's official pecker checker!

There was a video. It was corroborated. You are a moron.

A video of a woman complaining about something.
Corroborated by people who saw the woman complaining.

So how's that pecker checker training coming. Always good to see someone pursuing a lifelong dream.

No one is disputing her story and there were other witnesses, caddo kid.

I'm not disputing.
Just pointing out how incomplete it is.
And those other witnesses just saw the woman complaining.
So...

Her kids saw it too!!! That’s why she is so angry.

And you know that because...
SHE TOLD YOU!
Geez!

Because that’s why she is upset and the kid is like 12 not 2. She corroborated it.

You mean she said what Mommy told her to say?!?!?!

REALLLY?!?!?!

Geez! You people are just dumb.

Nope. She has eyes of her own. How dumb can you be?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

we on the left don't understand what your whining about here or what you want us to defend.

This is just another culture war bullshit thread for your maga fuckup authoritarians.

Would you want your young daughters to share a locker room with that person?

It sounds like some asshole was showing off his penis, but you want to elevate it into something else.

That "asshole" is identifying as a woman and the club is defending him as I understand it.

Where is the evidence of that? There’s nothing in the story indicates that the spa was defending him or what happened as a result of this intrusion.

Once again you’re projecting your own paranoia and assumptions onto the situation because TRANNIES!!!!!!!

Sounds like an intruder. Why wasn't he arrested? Do they have security?

My God, do ANY of you people bother to find out what you're talking about before you start talking? Do you even understand the concept?

It's a gym. The penis-bearer in question is a member of the gym. He identifies as a woman, so he does his showering and changing in the women's locker room, rather than the men's. The gym staff refused to do anything about the female member's complaint because he identifies as a woman.

Thanks.. Sounds like the woman should quit and ask for her money back.

Apparently, she and another woman did. But what happens when the next gym has the same issue, and the next, and the next, because dipshit leftists in California have made it illegal for women to have private spaces separate from delusional penis-bearers?

Hmmm .. Maybe she should see a lawyer .. Her rights are being trampled.

Typical leftist. "We'll just rearrange everything to fit the reality we wish existed. Then we'll suggest that everyone who doesn't like it marginalize themselves out of normal life. THEN we'll suggest that they spend time and money fighting legal battles against the mess we've made, which they can't win because we passed asinine laws demanding our stupid fantasies. Then we'll all act bewildered by the damage that we've caused and try to find someone else to blame for it."

OF COURSE HER RIGHTS ARE BEING TRAMPLED, you dungbrain. EVERY woman's rights are being trampled by this "transgender" lunacy, and everyone on the right TOLD you they were going to be trampled from the get-go.

Here's a suggestion for you, Sparky: Maybe the shitbrains on the left should learn to suck it up and accept reality, so they can stop trying to force their mental illnesses on the rest of us. Maybe states like California should stop demanding that everyone has to pretend that people with penises are or can be women, and go back to arresting anyone with a dick who goes into the ladies' room. And maybe leftists should start fucking LISTENING when people on the right tell them that they're out of their fucking minds.

That's just off the top of my head, though.

So don't hire a lawyer.. Quit the spa.. If enough women agree with you and quit, they will take care of it themselves. Vote with your feet. Vote with your pocketbook.

That is what is happening as I understand it

Again, the question is, where are they supposed to go? Where are they going to find, in the state of California, a gym that doesn't allow men to dangle their dicks in the ladies' locker room?

Allowing transgendered people into locker rooms, it’s not a license for men to expose their penises to women in those locker rooms. Transgender people use the stalls and change rooms provided for privacy for women in any gym throughout North America.

I don't even know where to start with this level of abysmal ignorance proudly proclaiming itself to be intelligence, I really don't.

I am going to do you an enormous favor of which you are not even remotely worthy, and which I sincerely doubt you have the ability to use. I'm going to break this down and explain to you the reality you have so stubbornly and persistently avoided so that it won't get in the way of what you want to believe. No need to thank me.

1) People get naked in locker rooms. That is what locker rooms are FOR. One goes to the locker room at a gym to change from their street clothes to their workout clothes, and then to shower off the sweat after they exercise and change back to their street clothes. Showering and changing clothes, by definition, involves being naked at some point in time.

2) Allowing transgenders into the women's locker room, therefore, DOES allow them to get naked in that locker room, because why else would you allow them in there at all? To sightsee? That's no less creepy, completely aside from being ridiculous.

3) Your assertion that all "real" transgender people change in the stalls and are terribly modest and shy and ashamed about their bodies until they've been fully surgically altered is based on absolutely nothing in reality. I get that you wanted to imagine that it worked that way, because it makes them sound like they're all poor, tortured little victims you can feel sorry for and make asinine demands on behalf of, thereby letting you feel virtuous at the expense of other people's discomfort. Hate to break it to you, but that ain't how it is at all.

First of all, full "gender affirmation" surgery is EXTREMELY expensive. It's also typically done over an extended period of time, and usually after a certain amount of time spent on hormones. Partly that's because of the expense, but a big part of it is that no surgeon wants to cause that much trauma to a body all at once, and put a patient through that much pain and recovery all at once. In the interim, the transitioning person doesn't just lock himself in a room and do nothing; he goes about his regular life.

Second, transgender people are . . . people. As such, they are differing and complex and come in a wide variety of personality types, motivations, etc. Not all of them WANT the complete transition surgery. Not all of them want ANY surgery. Some of them are good with just the hormones; some are good with just changing their names and pronouns and cross-dressing. I can assure you that the transgender community considers all of that to still be "real transgenderism", and would kick your butt up and down the street for presuming to decide for someone else that it isn't.

Also, in with that whole "people" thing is the fact that some people who are transgender are assholes, just like some of any group you care to name are assholes. Being transgender doesn't make you immune from being a jerk, and it doesn't make you immune from being a pervert or a predator. I have known a number of people in the transgender community who get a special charge out of "freaking the mundanes". They LIKE displaying the fact that they're dressing and identifying the opposite of their birth gender to regular people and provoking a reaction. There's actually a contingent of these people in all segments of the LGBTQ community, as well as the BDSM community. Hell, that's a huge reason that Pride parades exist, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Also, being transgender doesn't mean a person can't also have an exhibitionist fetish and get off on flashing people, just the same as the stereotypical guy in the trench coat on the playground does.

4) Whether the guy in the locker room is actually transgender, in the sense that he routinely identifies as female in myriad aspects of his life, or is just a predator using transgender claims as a dodge to get in the women's locker room, there are two operative points here that you're skating past: the transgender activist agenda demands that nothing more is required than for someone to declare that they are this or that gender to make it true, and the law in California specifically prohibits anyone - including law enforcement - from questioning or challenging his identification as a woman in any way. The Wi Spa doesn't seem to particularly WANT to challenge it, but even if they did, they couldn't do so legally. They can't do a damned thing about him until such time as he physically harms someone, or they open themselves up to fines and lawsuits.

Oh, there's one other point here that you shouldn't miss: We told you this exact thing was going to be the result of the transgender agenda you were so eager to endorse so that you could feel "compassionate". Let's don't ever forget that we said it, you dismissed it, and you were dead wrong.

You are wholly ignorant of the mental workings of Trans people.

How do you know their mental workings?

I don't claim to "know."
I know several Trans people. We've talked.
I do know that you people know NOTHING of their mentality beyond your own perceived perversions.

Of course you do. You’re the utmost expert. Please STFU and stop hijacking this thread

You're whining at the wrong party. All I do is respond to posts. If you want to bitch take it up with your fellows.

Whining? You don’t know the meaning of the word. You are pathetic. Get lost. You cannot defend what happened so you deflect.

You mean I need to defend what you imagined in your Tiny Brain?
Your OP was literally fact free.
Allegation by some "KAREN," no video, no other witnesses, no perp, no victim....

So you justifiy what you imagined and why you imagine such sick crap 24x7 AND
How your imaginings qualify you as your state's official pecker checker!

There was a video. It was corroborated. You are a moron.

A video of a woman complaining about something.
Corroborated by people who saw the woman complaining.

So how's that pecker checker training coming. Always good to see someone pursuing a lifelong dream.

No one is disputing her story and there were other witnesses, caddo kid.

I'm not disputing.
Just pointing out how incomplete it is.
And those other witnesses just saw the woman complaining.
So...

Her kids saw it too!!! That’s why she is so angry.

Maybe she should have just pointed and laughed. Might have gotten his junk covered up faster.

Maybe she she could just imagine she pointed and laughed just like she did the rest of this fantasy.

Troll alert. This how your caddo kid account got banned.

Go complain.

Only pussies complain. So you should be right on that one. I am sure you will put me on ignore soon enough.

 

[Dadoalex]

we on the left don't understand what your whining about here or what you want us to defend.

This is just another culture war bullshit thread for your maga fuckup authoritarians.

Would you want your young daughters to share a locker room with that person?

It sounds like some asshole was showing off his penis, but you want to elevate it into something else.

That "asshole" is identifying as a woman and the club is defending him as I understand it.

Where is the evidence of that? There’s nothing in the story indicates that the spa was defending him or what happened as a result of this intrusion.

Once again you’re projecting your own paranoia and assumptions onto the situation because TRANNIES!!!!!!!

Sounds like an intruder. Why wasn't he arrested? Do they have security?

My God, do ANY of you people bother to find out what you're talking about before you start talking? Do you even understand the concept?

It's a gym. The penis-bearer in question is a member of the gym. He identifies as a woman, so he does his showering and changing in the women's locker room, rather than the men's. The gym staff refused to do anything about the female member's complaint because he identifies as a woman.

Thanks.. Sounds like the woman should quit and ask for her money back.

Apparently, she and another woman did. But what happens when the next gym has the same issue, and the next, and the next, because dipshit leftists in California have made it illegal for women to have private spaces separate from delusional penis-bearers?

Hmmm .. Maybe she should see a lawyer .. Her rights are being trampled.

Typical leftist. "We'll just rearrange everything to fit the reality we wish existed. Then we'll suggest that everyone who doesn't like it marginalize themselves out of normal life. THEN we'll suggest that they spend time and money fighting legal battles against the mess we've made, which they can't win because we passed asinine laws demanding our stupid fantasies. Then we'll all act bewildered by the damage that we've caused and try to find someone else to blame for it."

OF COURSE HER RIGHTS ARE BEING TRAMPLED, you dungbrain. EVERY woman's rights are being trampled by this "transgender" lunacy, and everyone on the right TOLD you they were going to be trampled from the get-go.

Here's a suggestion for you, Sparky: Maybe the shitbrains on the left should learn to suck it up and accept reality, so they can stop trying to force their mental illnesses on the rest of us. Maybe states like California should stop demanding that everyone has to pretend that people with penises are or can be women, and go back to arresting anyone with a dick who goes into the ladies' room. And maybe leftists should start fucking LISTENING when people on the right tell them that they're out of their fucking minds.

That's just off the top of my head, though.

So don't hire a lawyer.. Quit the spa.. If enough women agree with you and quit, they will take care of it themselves. Vote with your feet. Vote with your pocketbook.

That is what is happening as I understand it

Again, the question is, where are they supposed to go? Where are they going to find, in the state of California, a gym that doesn't allow men to dangle their dicks in the ladies' locker room?

Allowing transgendered people into locker rooms, it’s not a license for men to expose their penises to women in those locker rooms. Transgender people use the stalls and change rooms provided for privacy for women in any gym throughout North America.

I don't even know where to start with this level of abysmal ignorance proudly proclaiming itself to be intelligence, I really don't.

I am going to do you an enormous favor of which you are not even remotely worthy, and which I sincerely doubt you have the ability to use. I'm going to break this down and explain to you the reality you have so stubbornly and persistently avoided so that it won't get in the way of what you want to believe. No need to thank me.

1) People get naked in locker rooms. That is what locker rooms are FOR. One goes to the locker room at a gym to change from their street clothes to their workout clothes, and then to shower off the sweat after they exercise and change back to their street clothes. Showering and changing clothes, by definition, involves being naked at some point in time.

2) Allowing transgenders into the women's locker room, therefore, DOES allow them to get naked in that locker room, because why else would you allow them in there at all? To sightsee? That's no less creepy, completely aside from being ridiculous.

3) Your assertion that all "real" transgender people change in the stalls and are terribly modest and shy and ashamed about their bodies until they've been fully surgically altered is based on absolutely nothing in reality. I get that you wanted to imagine that it worked that way, because it makes them sound like they're all poor, tortured little victims you can feel sorry for and make asinine demands on behalf of, thereby letting you feel virtuous at the expense of other people's discomfort. Hate to break it to you, but that ain't how it is at all.

First of all, full "gender affirmation" surgery is EXTREMELY expensive. It's also typically done over an extended period of time, and usually after a certain amount of time spent on hormones. Partly that's because of the expense, but a big part of it is that no surgeon wants to cause that much trauma to a body all at once, and put a patient through that much pain and recovery all at once. In the interim, the transitioning person doesn't just lock himself in a room and do nothing; he goes about his regular life.

Second, transgender people are . . . people. As such, they are differing and complex and come in a wide variety of personality types, motivations, etc. Not all of them WANT the complete transition surgery. Not all of them want ANY surgery. Some of them are good with just the hormones; some are good with just changing their names and pronouns and cross-dressing. I can assure you that the transgender community considers all of that to still be "real transgenderism", and would kick your butt up and down the street for presuming to decide for someone else that it isn't.

Also, in with that whole "people" thing is the fact that some people who are transgender are assholes, just like some of any group you care to name are assholes. Being transgender doesn't make you immune from being a jerk, and it doesn't make you immune from being a pervert or a predator. I have known a number of people in the transgender community who get a special charge out of "freaking the mundanes". They LIKE displaying the fact that they're dressing and identifying the opposite of their birth gender to regular people and provoking a reaction. There's actually a contingent of these people in all segments of the LGBTQ community, as well as the BDSM community. Hell, that's a huge reason that Pride parades exist, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Also, being transgender doesn't mean a person can't also have an exhibitionist fetish and get off on flashing people, just the same as the stereotypical guy in the trench coat on the playground does.

4) Whether the guy in the locker room is actually transgender, in the sense that he routinely identifies as female in myriad aspects of his life, or is just a predator using transgender claims as a dodge to get in the women's locker room, there are two operative points here that you're skating past: the transgender activist agenda demands that nothing more is required than for someone to declare that they are this or that gender to make it true, and the law in California specifically prohibits anyone - including law enforcement - from questioning or challenging his identification as a woman in any way. The Wi Spa doesn't seem to particularly WANT to challenge it, but even if they did, they couldn't do so legally. They can't do a damned thing about him until such time as he physically harms someone, or they open themselves up to fines and lawsuits.

Oh, there's one other point here that you shouldn't miss: We told you this exact thing was going to be the result of the transgender agenda you were so eager to endorse so that you could feel "compassionate". Let's don't ever forget that we said it, you dismissed it, and you were dead wrong.

You are wholly ignorant of the mental workings of Trans people.

How do you know their mental workings?

I don't claim to "know."
I know several Trans people. We've talked.
I do know that you people know NOTHING of their mentality beyond your own perceived perversions.

Of course you do. You’re the utmost expert. Please STFU and stop hijacking this thread

You're whining at the wrong party. All I do is respond to posts. If you want to bitch take it up with your fellows.

Whining? You don’t know the meaning of the word. You are pathetic. Get lost. You cannot defend what happened so you deflect.

You mean I need to defend what you imagined in your Tiny Brain?
Your OP was literally fact free.
Allegation by some "KAREN," no video, no other witnesses, no perp, no victim....

So you justifiy what you imagined and why you imagine such sick crap 24x7 AND
How your imaginings qualify you as your state's official pecker checker!

There was a video. It was corroborated. You are a moron.

A video of a woman complaining about something.
Corroborated by people who saw the woman complaining.

So how's that pecker checker training coming. Always good to see someone pursuing a lifelong dream.

No one is disputing her story and there were other witnesses, caddo kid.

I'm not disputing.
Just pointing out how incomplete it is.
And those other witnesses just saw the woman complaining.
So...

Her kids saw it too!!! That’s why she is so angry.

And you know that because...
SHE TOLD YOU!
Geez!

Because that’s why she is upset and the kid is like 12 not 2. She corroborated it.

You mean she said what Mommy told her to say?!?!?!

REALLLY?!?!?!

Geez! You people are just dumb.

Nope. She has eyes of her own. How dumb can you be?

Not dumb enough to not realize that a "witness" and her "12 year old daughter" are not two witnesses.
12 YO can't testify w/o parents permission.
12 YO cannot be interviewed w/o parent permission with some exceptions
If 12 yo will give different story then what does parent do?
EXACTLY

so you've not two "witnesses" but zero witnesses because mom's attempt to perjure her daughter has invalidated mom's.

BWAHAHAHA

 

[Dadoalex]

we on the left don't understand what your whining about here or what you want us to defend.

This is just another culture war bullshit thread for your maga fuckup authoritarians.

Would you want your young daughters to share a locker room with that person?

It sounds like some asshole was showing off his penis, but you want to elevate it into something else.

That "asshole" is identifying as a woman and the club is defending him as I understand it.

Where is the evidence of that? There’s nothing in the story indicates that the spa was defending him or what happened as a result of this intrusion.

Once again you’re projecting your own paranoia and assumptions onto the situation because TRANNIES!!!!!!!

Sounds like an intruder. Why wasn't he arrested? Do they have security?

My God, do ANY of you people bother to find out what you're talking about before you start talking? Do you even understand the concept?

It's a gym. The penis-bearer in question is a member of the gym. He identifies as a woman, so he does his showering and changing in the women's locker room, rather than the men's. The gym staff refused to do anything about the female member's complaint because he identifies as a woman.

Thanks.. Sounds like the woman should quit and ask for her money back.

Apparently, she and another woman did. But what happens when the next gym has the same issue, and the next, and the next, because dipshit leftists in California have made it illegal for women to have private spaces separate from delusional penis-bearers?

Hmmm .. Maybe she should see a lawyer .. Her rights are being trampled.

Typical leftist. "We'll just rearrange everything to fit the reality we wish existed. Then we'll suggest that everyone who doesn't like it marginalize themselves out of normal life. THEN we'll suggest that they spend time and money fighting legal battles against the mess we've made, which they can't win because we passed asinine laws demanding our stupid fantasies. Then we'll all act bewildered by the damage that we've caused and try to find someone else to blame for it."

OF COURSE HER RIGHTS ARE BEING TRAMPLED, you dungbrain. EVERY woman's rights are being trampled by this "transgender" lunacy, and everyone on the right TOLD you they were going to be trampled from the get-go.

Here's a suggestion for you, Sparky: Maybe the shitbrains on the left should learn to suck it up and accept reality, so they can stop trying to force their mental illnesses on the rest of us. Maybe states like California should stop demanding that everyone has to pretend that people with penises are or can be women, and go back to arresting anyone with a dick who goes into the ladies' room. And maybe leftists should start fucking LISTENING when people on the right tell them that they're out of their fucking minds.

That's just off the top of my head, though.

So don't hire a lawyer.. Quit the spa.. If enough women agree with you and quit, they will take care of it themselves. Vote with your feet. Vote with your pocketbook.

That is what is happening as I understand it

Again, the question is, where are they supposed to go? Where are they going to find, in the state of California, a gym that doesn't allow men to dangle their dicks in the ladies' locker room?

Allowing transgendered people into locker rooms, it’s not a license for men to expose their penises to women in those locker rooms. Transgender people use the stalls and change rooms provided for privacy for women in any gym throughout North America.

I don't even know where to start with this level of abysmal ignorance proudly proclaiming itself to be intelligence, I really don't.

I am going to do you an enormous favor of which you are not even remotely worthy, and which I sincerely doubt you have the ability to use. I'm going to break this down and explain to you the reality you have so stubbornly and persistently avoided so that it won't get in the way of what you want to believe. No need to thank me.

1) People get naked in locker rooms. That is what locker rooms are FOR. One goes to the locker room at a gym to change from their street clothes to their workout clothes, and then to shower off the sweat after they exercise and change back to their street clothes. Showering and changing clothes, by definition, involves being naked at some point in time.

2) Allowing transgenders into the women's locker room, therefore, DOES allow them to get naked in that locker room, because why else would you allow them in there at all? To sightsee? That's no less creepy, completely aside from being ridiculous.

3) Your assertion that all "real" transgender people change in the stalls and are terribly modest and shy and ashamed about their bodies until they've been fully surgically altered is based on absolutely nothing in reality. I get that you wanted to imagine that it worked that way, because it makes them sound like they're all poor, tortured little victims you can feel sorry for and make asinine demands on behalf of, thereby letting you feel virtuous at the expense of other people's discomfort. Hate to break it to you, but that ain't how it is at all.

First of all, full "gender affirmation" surgery is EXTREMELY expensive. It's also typically done over an extended period of time, and usually after a certain amount of time spent on hormones. Partly that's because of the expense, but a big part of it is that no surgeon wants to cause that much trauma to a body all at once, and put a patient through that much pain and recovery all at once. In the interim, the transitioning person doesn't just lock himself in a room and do nothing; he goes about his regular life.

Second, transgender people are . . . people. As such, they are differing and complex and come in a wide variety of personality types, motivations, etc. Not all of them WANT the complete transition surgery. Not all of them want ANY surgery. Some of them are good with just the hormones; some are good with just changing their names and pronouns and cross-dressing. I can assure you that the transgender community considers all of that to still be "real transgenderism", and would kick your butt up and down the street for presuming to decide for someone else that it isn't.

Also, in with that whole "people" thing is the fact that some people who are transgender are assholes, just like some of any group you care to name are assholes. Being transgender doesn't make you immune from being a jerk, and it doesn't make you immune from being a pervert or a predator. I have known a number of people in the transgender community who get a special charge out of "freaking the mundanes". They LIKE displaying the fact that they're dressing and identifying the opposite of their birth gender to regular people and provoking a reaction. There's actually a contingent of these people in all segments of the LGBTQ community, as well as the BDSM community. Hell, that's a huge reason that Pride parades exist, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Also, being transgender doesn't mean a person can't also have an exhibitionist fetish and get off on flashing people, just the same as the stereotypical guy in the trench coat on the playground does.

4) Whether the guy in the locker room is actually transgender, in the sense that he routinely identifies as female in myriad aspects of his life, or is just a predator using transgender claims as a dodge to get in the women's locker room, there are two operative points here that you're skating past: the transgender activist agenda demands that nothing more is required than for someone to declare that they are this or that gender to make it true, and the law in California specifically prohibits anyone - including law enforcement - from questioning or challenging his identification as a woman in any way. The Wi Spa doesn't seem to particularly WANT to challenge it, but even if they did, they couldn't do so legally. They can't do a damned thing about him until such time as he physically harms someone, or they open themselves up to fines and lawsuits.

Oh, there's one other point here that you shouldn't miss: We told you this exact thing was going to be the result of the transgender agenda you were so eager to endorse so that you could feel "compassionate". Let's don't ever forget that we said it, you dismissed it, and you were dead wrong.

You are wholly ignorant of the mental workings of Trans people.

How do you know their mental workings?

I don't claim to "know."
I know several Trans people. We've talked.
I do know that you people know NOTHING of their mentality beyond your own perceived perversions.

Of course you do. You’re the utmost expert. Please STFU and stop hijacking this thread

You're whining at the wrong party. All I do is respond to posts. If you want to bitch take it up with your fellows.

Whining? You don’t know the meaning of the word. You are pathetic. Get lost. You cannot defend what happened so you deflect.

You mean I need to defend what you imagined in your Tiny Brain?
Your OP was literally fact free.
Allegation by some "KAREN," no video, no other witnesses, no perp, no victim....

So you justifiy what you imagined and why you imagine such sick crap 24x7 AND
How your imaginings qualify you as your state's official pecker checker!

There was a video. It was corroborated. You are a moron.

A video of a woman complaining about something.
Corroborated by people who saw the woman complaining.

So how's that pecker checker training coming. Always good to see someone pursuing a lifelong dream.

No one is disputing her story and there were other witnesses, caddo kid.

I'm not disputing.
Just pointing out how incomplete it is.
And those other witnesses just saw the woman complaining.
So...

Her kids saw it too!!! That’s why she is so angry.

Maybe she should have just pointed and laughed. Might have gotten his junk covered up faster.

Maybe she she could just imagine she pointed and laughed just like she did the rest of this fantasy.

Troll alert. This how your caddo kid account got banned.

Go complain.

Only pussies complain. So you should be right on that one. I am sure you will put me on ignore soon enough.

Please...

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

we on the left don't understand what your whining about here or what you want us to defend.

This is just another culture war bullshit thread for your maga fuckup authoritarians.

Would you want your young daughters to share a locker room with that person?

It sounds like some asshole was showing off his penis, but you want to elevate it into something else.

That "asshole" is identifying as a woman and the club is defending him as I understand it.

Where is the evidence of that? There’s nothing in the story indicates that the spa was defending him or what happened as a result of this intrusion.

Once again you’re projecting your own paranoia and assumptions onto the situation because TRANNIES!!!!!!!

Sounds like an intruder. Why wasn't he arrested? Do they have security?

My God, do ANY of you people bother to find out what you're talking about before you start talking? Do you even understand the concept?

It's a gym. The penis-bearer in question is a member of the gym. He identifies as a woman, so he does his showering and changing in the women's locker room, rather than the men's. The gym staff refused to do anything about the female member's complaint because he identifies as a woman.

Thanks.. Sounds like the woman should quit and ask for her money back.

Apparently, she and another woman did. But what happens when the next gym has the same issue, and the next, and the next, because dipshit leftists in California have made it illegal for women to have private spaces separate from delusional penis-bearers?

Hmmm .. Maybe she should see a lawyer .. Her rights are being trampled.

Typical leftist. "We'll just rearrange everything to fit the reality we wish existed. Then we'll suggest that everyone who doesn't like it marginalize themselves out of normal life. THEN we'll suggest that they spend time and money fighting legal battles against the mess we've made, which they can't win because we passed asinine laws demanding our stupid fantasies. Then we'll all act bewildered by the damage that we've caused and try to find someone else to blame for it."

OF COURSE HER RIGHTS ARE BEING TRAMPLED, you dungbrain. EVERY woman's rights are being trampled by this "transgender" lunacy, and everyone on the right TOLD you they were going to be trampled from the get-go.

Here's a suggestion for you, Sparky: Maybe the shitbrains on the left should learn to suck it up and accept reality, so they can stop trying to force their mental illnesses on the rest of us. Maybe states like California should stop demanding that everyone has to pretend that people with penises are or can be women, and go back to arresting anyone with a dick who goes into the ladies' room. And maybe leftists should start fucking LISTENING when people on the right tell them that they're out of their fucking minds.

That's just off the top of my head, though.

So don't hire a lawyer.. Quit the spa.. If enough women agree with you and quit, they will take care of it themselves. Vote with your feet. Vote with your pocketbook.

That is what is happening as I understand it

Again, the question is, where are they supposed to go? Where are they going to find, in the state of California, a gym that doesn't allow men to dangle their dicks in the ladies' locker room?

Allowing transgendered people into locker rooms, it’s not a license for men to expose their penises to women in those locker rooms. Transgender people use the stalls and change rooms provided for privacy for women in any gym throughout North America.

I don't even know where to start with this level of abysmal ignorance proudly proclaiming itself to be intelligence, I really don't.

I am going to do you an enormous favor of which you are not even remotely worthy, and which I sincerely doubt you have the ability to use. I'm going to break this down and explain to you the reality you have so stubbornly and persistently avoided so that it won't get in the way of what you want to believe. No need to thank me.

1) People get naked in locker rooms. That is what locker rooms are FOR. One goes to the locker room at a gym to change from their street clothes to their workout clothes, and then to shower off the sweat after they exercise and change back to their street clothes. Showering and changing clothes, by definition, involves being naked at some point in time.

2) Allowing transgenders into the women's locker room, therefore, DOES allow them to get naked in that locker room, because why else would you allow them in there at all? To sightsee? That's no less creepy, completely aside from being ridiculous.

3) Your assertion that all "real" transgender people change in the stalls and are terribly modest and shy and ashamed about their bodies until they've been fully surgically altered is based on absolutely nothing in reality. I get that you wanted to imagine that it worked that way, because it makes them sound like they're all poor, tortured little victims you can feel sorry for and make asinine demands on behalf of, thereby letting you feel virtuous at the expense of other people's discomfort. Hate to break it to you, but that ain't how it is at all.

First of all, full "gender affirmation" surgery is EXTREMELY expensive. It's also typically done over an extended period of time, and usually after a certain amount of time spent on hormones. Partly that's because of the expense, but a big part of it is that no surgeon wants to cause that much trauma to a body all at once, and put a patient through that much pain and recovery all at once. In the interim, the transitioning person doesn't just lock himself in a room and do nothing; he goes about his regular life.

Second, transgender people are . . . people. As such, they are differing and complex and come in a wide variety of personality types, motivations, etc. Not all of them WANT the complete transition surgery. Not all of them want ANY surgery. Some of them are good with just the hormones; some are good with just changing their names and pronouns and cross-dressing. I can assure you that the transgender community considers all of that to still be "real transgenderism", and would kick your butt up and down the street for presuming to decide for someone else that it isn't.

Also, in with that whole "people" thing is the fact that some people who are transgender are assholes, just like some of any group you care to name are assholes. Being transgender doesn't make you immune from being a jerk, and it doesn't make you immune from being a pervert or a predator. I have known a number of people in the transgender community who get a special charge out of "freaking the mundanes". They LIKE displaying the fact that they're dressing and identifying the opposite of their birth gender to regular people and provoking a reaction. There's actually a contingent of these people in all segments of the LGBTQ community, as well as the BDSM community. Hell, that's a huge reason that Pride parades exist, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Also, being transgender doesn't mean a person can't also have an exhibitionist fetish and get off on flashing people, just the same as the stereotypical guy in the trench coat on the playground does.

4) Whether the guy in the locker room is actually transgender, in the sense that he routinely identifies as female in myriad aspects of his life, or is just a predator using transgender claims as a dodge to get in the women's locker room, there are two operative points here that you're skating past: the transgender activist agenda demands that nothing more is required than for someone to declare that they are this or that gender to make it true, and the law in California specifically prohibits anyone - including law enforcement - from questioning or challenging his identification as a woman in any way. The Wi Spa doesn't seem to particularly WANT to challenge it, but even if they did, they couldn't do so legally. They can't do a damned thing about him until such time as he physically harms someone, or they open themselves up to fines and lawsuits.

Oh, there's one other point here that you shouldn't miss: We told you this exact thing was going to be the result of the transgender agenda you were so eager to endorse so that you could feel "compassionate". Let's don't ever forget that we said it, you dismissed it, and you were dead wrong.

You are wholly ignorant of the mental workings of Trans people.

How do you know their mental workings?

I don't claim to "know."
I know several Trans people. We've talked.
I do know that you people know NOTHING of their mentality beyond your own perceived perversions.

Of course you do. You’re the utmost expert. Please STFU and stop hijacking this thread

You're whining at the wrong party. All I do is respond to posts. If you want to bitch take it up with your fellows.

Whining? You don’t know the meaning of the word. You are pathetic. Get lost. You cannot defend what happened so you deflect.

You mean I need to defend what you imagined in your Tiny Brain?
Your OP was literally fact free.
Allegation by some "KAREN," no video, no other witnesses, no perp, no victim....

So you justifiy what you imagined and why you imagine such sick crap 24x7 AND
How your imaginings qualify you as your state's official pecker checker!

There was a video. It was corroborated. You are a moron.

A video of a woman complaining about something.
Corroborated by people who saw the woman complaining.

So how's that pecker checker training coming. Always good to see someone pursuing a lifelong dream.

No one is disputing her story and there were other witnesses, caddo kid.

I'm not disputing.
Just pointing out how incomplete it is.
And those other witnesses just saw the woman complaining.
So...

Her kids saw it too!!! That’s why she is so angry.

Maybe she should have just pointed and laughed. Might have gotten his junk covered up faster.

Maybe she she could just imagine she pointed and laughed just like she did the rest of this fantasy.

Troll alert. This how your caddo kid account got banned.

Go complain.

Only pussies complain. So you should be right on that one. I am sure you will put me on ignore soon enough.

Please...
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I am glad I broke you again. Mission accomplished

 

[Dadoalex]

we on the left don't understand what your whining about here or what you want us to defend.

This is just another culture war bullshit thread for your maga fuckup authoritarians.

Would you want your young daughters to share a locker room with that person?

It sounds like some asshole was showing off his penis, but you want to elevate it into something else.

That "asshole" is identifying as a woman and the club is defending him as I understand it.

Where is the evidence of that? There’s nothing in the story indicates that the spa was defending him or what happened as a result of this intrusion.

Once again you’re projecting your own paranoia and assumptions onto the situation because TRANNIES!!!!!!!

Sounds like an intruder. Why wasn't he arrested? Do they have security?

My God, do ANY of you people bother to find out what you're talking about before you start talking? Do you even understand the concept?

It's a gym. The penis-bearer in question is a member of the gym. He identifies as a woman, so he does his showering and changing in the women's locker room, rather than the men's. The gym staff refused to do anything about the female member's complaint because he identifies as a woman.

Thanks.. Sounds like the woman should quit and ask for her money back.

Apparently, she and another woman did. But what happens when the next gym has the same issue, and the next, and the next, because dipshit leftists in California have made it illegal for women to have private spaces separate from delusional penis-bearers?

Hmmm .. Maybe she should see a lawyer .. Her rights are being trampled.

Typical leftist. "We'll just rearrange everything to fit the reality we wish existed. Then we'll suggest that everyone who doesn't like it marginalize themselves out of normal life. THEN we'll suggest that they spend time and money fighting legal battles against the mess we've made, which they can't win because we passed asinine laws demanding our stupid fantasies. Then we'll all act bewildered by the damage that we've caused and try to find someone else to blame for it."

OF COURSE HER RIGHTS ARE BEING TRAMPLED, you dungbrain. EVERY woman's rights are being trampled by this "transgender" lunacy, and everyone on the right TOLD you they were going to be trampled from the get-go.

Here's a suggestion for you, Sparky: Maybe the shitbrains on the left should learn to suck it up and accept reality, so they can stop trying to force their mental illnesses on the rest of us. Maybe states like California should stop demanding that everyone has to pretend that people with penises are or can be women, and go back to arresting anyone with a dick who goes into the ladies' room. And maybe leftists should start fucking LISTENING when people on the right tell them that they're out of their fucking minds.

That's just off the top of my head, though.

So don't hire a lawyer.. Quit the spa.. If enough women agree with you and quit, they will take care of it themselves. Vote with your feet. Vote with your pocketbook.

That is what is happening as I understand it

Again, the question is, where are they supposed to go? Where are they going to find, in the state of California, a gym that doesn't allow men to dangle their dicks in the ladies' locker room?

Allowing transgendered people into locker rooms, it’s not a license for men to expose their penises to women in those locker rooms. Transgender people use the stalls and change rooms provided for privacy for women in any gym throughout North America.

I don't even know where to start with this level of abysmal ignorance proudly proclaiming itself to be intelligence, I really don't.

I am going to do you an enormous favor of which you are not even remotely worthy, and which I sincerely doubt you have the ability to use. I'm going to break this down and explain to you the reality you have so stubbornly and persistently avoided so that it won't get in the way of what you want to believe. No need to thank me.

1) People get naked in locker rooms. That is what locker rooms are FOR. One goes to the locker room at a gym to change from their street clothes to their workout clothes, and then to shower off the sweat after they exercise and change back to their street clothes. Showering and changing clothes, by definition, involves being naked at some point in time.

2) Allowing transgenders into the women's locker room, therefore, DOES allow them to get naked in that locker room, because why else would you allow them in there at all? To sightsee? That's no less creepy, completely aside from being ridiculous.

3) Your assertion that all "real" transgender people change in the stalls and are terribly modest and shy and ashamed about their bodies until they've been fully surgically altered is based on absolutely nothing in reality. I get that you wanted to imagine that it worked that way, because it makes them sound like they're all poor, tortured little victims you can feel sorry for and make asinine demands on behalf of, thereby letting you feel virtuous at the expense of other people's discomfort. Hate to break it to you, but that ain't how it is at all.

First of all, full "gender affirmation" surgery is EXTREMELY expensive. It's also typically done over an extended period of time, and usually after a certain amount of time spent on hormones. Partly that's because of the expense, but a big part of it is that no surgeon wants to cause that much trauma to a body all at once, and put a patient through that much pain and recovery all at once. In the interim, the transitioning person doesn't just lock himself in a room and do nothing; he goes about his regular life.

Second, transgender people are . . . people. As such, they are differing and complex and come in a wide variety of personality types, motivations, etc. Not all of them WANT the complete transition surgery. Not all of them want ANY surgery. Some of them are good with just the hormones; some are good with just changing their names and pronouns and cross-dressing. I can assure you that the transgender community considers all of that to still be "real transgenderism", and would kick your butt up and down the street for presuming to decide for someone else that it isn't.

Also, in with that whole "people" thing is the fact that some people who are transgender are assholes, just like some of any group you care to name are assholes. Being transgender doesn't make you immune from being a jerk, and it doesn't make you immune from being a pervert or a predator. I have known a number of people in the transgender community who get a special charge out of "freaking the mundanes". They LIKE displaying the fact that they're dressing and identifying the opposite of their birth gender to regular people and provoking a reaction. There's actually a contingent of these people in all segments of the LGBTQ community, as well as the BDSM community. Hell, that's a huge reason that Pride parades exist, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Also, being transgender doesn't mean a person can't also have an exhibitionist fetish and get off on flashing people, just the same as the stereotypical guy in the trench coat on the playground does.

4) Whether the guy in the locker room is actually transgender, in the sense that he routinely identifies as female in myriad aspects of his life, or is just a predator using transgender claims as a dodge to get in the women's locker room, there are two operative points here that you're skating past: the transgender activist agenda demands that nothing more is required than for someone to declare that they are this or that gender to make it true, and the law in California specifically prohibits anyone - including law enforcement - from questioning or challenging his identification as a woman in any way. The Wi Spa doesn't seem to particularly WANT to challenge it, but even if they did, they couldn't do so legally. They can't do a damned thing about him until such time as he physically harms someone, or they open themselves up to fines and lawsuits.

Oh, there's one other point here that you shouldn't miss: We told you this exact thing was going to be the result of the transgender agenda you were so eager to endorse so that you could feel "compassionate". Let's don't ever forget that we said it, you dismissed it, and you were dead wrong.

You are wholly ignorant of the mental workings of Trans people.

How do you know their mental workings?

I don't claim to "know."
I know several Trans people. We've talked.
I do know that you people know NOTHING of their mentality beyond your own perceived perversions.

Of course you do. You’re the utmost expert. Please STFU and stop hijacking this thread

You're whining at the wrong party. All I do is respond to posts. If you want to bitch take it up with your fellows.

Whining? You don’t know the meaning of the word. You are pathetic. Get lost. You cannot defend what happened so you deflect.

You mean I need to defend what you imagined in your Tiny Brain?
Your OP was literally fact free.
Allegation by some "KAREN," no video, no other witnesses, no perp, no victim....

So you justifiy what you imagined and why you imagine such sick crap 24x7 AND
How your imaginings qualify you as your state's official pecker checker!

There was a video. It was corroborated. You are a moron.

A video of a woman complaining about something.
Corroborated by people who saw the woman complaining.

So how's that pecker checker training coming. Always good to see someone pursuing a lifelong dream.

No one is disputing her story and there were other witnesses, caddo kid.

I'm not disputing.
Just pointing out how incomplete it is.
And those other witnesses just saw the woman complaining.
So...

Her kids saw it too!!! That’s why she is so angry.

Maybe she should have just pointed and laughed. Might have gotten his junk covered up faster.

Maybe she she could just imagine she pointed and laughed just like she did the rest of this fantasy.

Troll alert. This how your caddo kid account got banned.

Go complain.

Only pussies complain. So you should be right on that one. I am sure you will put me on ignore soon enough.

Please...
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I am glad I broke you again. Mission accomplished

Just like Afghanistan, huh?
running off, dick tucked in your crack, screaming about your latest "victory."

BWAHAHAHAHA

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

we on the left don't understand what your whining about here or what you want us to defend.

This is just another culture war bullshit thread for your maga fuckup authoritarians.

Would you want your young daughters to share a locker room with that person?

It sounds like some asshole was showing off his penis, but you want to elevate it into something else.

That "asshole" is identifying as a woman and the club is defending him as I understand it.

Where is the evidence of that? There’s nothing in the story indicates that the spa was defending him or what happened as a result of this intrusion.

Once again you’re projecting your own paranoia and assumptions onto the situation because TRANNIES!!!!!!!

Sounds like an intruder. Why wasn't he arrested? Do they have security?

My God, do ANY of you people bother to find out what you're talking about before you start talking? Do you even understand the concept?

It's a gym. The penis-bearer in question is a member of the gym. He identifies as a woman, so he does his showering and changing in the women's locker room, rather than the men's. The gym staff refused to do anything about the female member's complaint because he identifies as a woman.

Thanks.. Sounds like the woman should quit and ask for her money back.

Apparently, she and another woman did. But what happens when the next gym has the same issue, and the next, and the next, because dipshit leftists in California have made it illegal for women to have private spaces separate from delusional penis-bearers?

Hmmm .. Maybe she should see a lawyer .. Her rights are being trampled.

Typical leftist. "We'll just rearrange everything to fit the reality we wish existed. Then we'll suggest that everyone who doesn't like it marginalize themselves out of normal life. THEN we'll suggest that they spend time and money fighting legal battles against the mess we've made, which they can't win because we passed asinine laws demanding our stupid fantasies. Then we'll all act bewildered by the damage that we've caused and try to find someone else to blame for it."

OF COURSE HER RIGHTS ARE BEING TRAMPLED, you dungbrain. EVERY woman's rights are being trampled by this "transgender" lunacy, and everyone on the right TOLD you they were going to be trampled from the get-go.

Here's a suggestion for you, Sparky: Maybe the shitbrains on the left should learn to suck it up and accept reality, so they can stop trying to force their mental illnesses on the rest of us. Maybe states like California should stop demanding that everyone has to pretend that people with penises are or can be women, and go back to arresting anyone with a dick who goes into the ladies' room. And maybe leftists should start fucking LISTENING when people on the right tell them that they're out of their fucking minds.

That's just off the top of my head, though.

So don't hire a lawyer.. Quit the spa.. If enough women agree with you and quit, they will take care of it themselves. Vote with your feet. Vote with your pocketbook.

That is what is happening as I understand it

Again, the question is, where are they supposed to go? Where are they going to find, in the state of California, a gym that doesn't allow men to dangle their dicks in the ladies' locker room?

Allowing transgendered people into locker rooms, it’s not a license for men to expose their penises to women in those locker rooms. Transgender people use the stalls and change rooms provided for privacy for women in any gym throughout North America.

I don't even know where to start with this level of abysmal ignorance proudly proclaiming itself to be intelligence, I really don't.

I am going to do you an enormous favor of which you are not even remotely worthy, and which I sincerely doubt you have the ability to use. I'm going to break this down and explain to you the reality you have so stubbornly and persistently avoided so that it won't get in the way of what you want to believe. No need to thank me.

1) People get naked in locker rooms. That is what locker rooms are FOR. One goes to the locker room at a gym to change from their street clothes to their workout clothes, and then to shower off the sweat after they exercise and change back to their street clothes. Showering and changing clothes, by definition, involves being naked at some point in time.

2) Allowing transgenders into the women's locker room, therefore, DOES allow them to get naked in that locker room, because why else would you allow them in there at all? To sightsee? That's no less creepy, completely aside from being ridiculous.

3) Your assertion that all "real" transgender people change in the stalls and are terribly modest and shy and ashamed about their bodies until they've been fully surgically altered is based on absolutely nothing in reality. I get that you wanted to imagine that it worked that way, because it makes them sound like they're all poor, tortured little victims you can feel sorry for and make asinine demands on behalf of, thereby letting you feel virtuous at the expense of other people's discomfort. Hate to break it to you, but that ain't how it is at all.

First of all, full "gender affirmation" surgery is EXTREMELY expensive. It's also typically done over an extended period of time, and usually after a certain amount of time spent on hormones. Partly that's because of the expense, but a big part of it is that no surgeon wants to cause that much trauma to a body all at once, and put a patient through that much pain and recovery all at once. In the interim, the transitioning person doesn't just lock himself in a room and do nothing; he goes about his regular life.

Second, transgender people are . . . people. As such, they are differing and complex and come in a wide variety of personality types, motivations, etc. Not all of them WANT the complete transition surgery. Not all of them want ANY surgery. Some of them are good with just the hormones; some are good with just changing their names and pronouns and cross-dressing. I can assure you that the transgender community considers all of that to still be "real transgenderism", and would kick your butt up and down the street for presuming to decide for someone else that it isn't.

Also, in with that whole "people" thing is the fact that some people who are transgender are assholes, just like some of any group you care to name are assholes. Being transgender doesn't make you immune from being a jerk, and it doesn't make you immune from being a pervert or a predator. I have known a number of people in the transgender community who get a special charge out of "freaking the mundanes". They LIKE displaying the fact that they're dressing and identifying the opposite of their birth gender to regular people and provoking a reaction. There's actually a contingent of these people in all segments of the LGBTQ community, as well as the BDSM community. Hell, that's a huge reason that Pride parades exist, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Also, being transgender doesn't mean a person can't also have an exhibitionist fetish and get off on flashing people, just the same as the stereotypical guy in the trench coat on the playground does.

4) Whether the guy in the locker room is actually transgender, in the sense that he routinely identifies as female in myriad aspects of his life, or is just a predator using transgender claims as a dodge to get in the women's locker room, there are two operative points here that you're skating past: the transgender activist agenda demands that nothing more is required than for someone to declare that they are this or that gender to make it true, and the law in California specifically prohibits anyone - including law enforcement - from questioning or challenging his identification as a woman in any way. The Wi Spa doesn't seem to particularly WANT to challenge it, but even if they did, they couldn't do so legally. They can't do a damned thing about him until such time as he physically harms someone, or they open themselves up to fines and lawsuits.

Oh, there's one other point here that you shouldn't miss: We told you this exact thing was going to be the result of the transgender agenda you were so eager to endorse so that you could feel "compassionate". Let's don't ever forget that we said it, you dismissed it, and you were dead wrong.

You are wholly ignorant of the mental workings of Trans people.

How do you know their mental workings?

I don't claim to "know."
I know several Trans people. We've talked.
I do know that you people know NOTHING of their mentality beyond your own perceived perversions.

Of course you do. You’re the utmost expert. Please STFU and stop hijacking this thread

You're whining at the wrong party. All I do is respond to posts. If you want to bitch take it up with your fellows.

Whining? You don’t know the meaning of the word. You are pathetic. Get lost. You cannot defend what happened so you deflect.

You mean I need to defend what you imagined in your Tiny Brain?
Your OP was literally fact free.
Allegation by some "KAREN," no video, no other witnesses, no perp, no victim....

So you justifiy what you imagined and why you imagine such sick crap 24x7 AND
How your imaginings qualify you as your state's official pecker checker!

There was a video. It was corroborated. You are a moron.

A video of a woman complaining about something.
Corroborated by people who saw the woman complaining.

So how's that pecker checker training coming. Always good to see someone pursuing a lifelong dream.

No one is disputing her story and there were other witnesses, caddo kid.

I'm not disputing.
Just pointing out how incomplete it is.
And those other witnesses just saw the woman complaining.
So...

Her kids saw it too!!! That’s why she is so angry.

Maybe she should have just pointed and laughed. Might have gotten his junk covered up faster.

Maybe she she could just imagine she pointed and laughed just like she did the rest of this fantasy.

Troll alert. This how your caddo kid account got banned.

Go complain.

Only pussies complain. So you should be right on that one. I am sure you will put me on ignore soon enough.

Please...
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I am glad I broke you again. Mission accomplished

Just like Afghanistan, huh?
running off, dick tucked in your crack, screaming about your latest "victory."

BWAHAHAHAHA

Yep. Broke you. Case in point. Stupid caddo kid.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Obviously America isn't going to stand for wagging penises in women's locker rooms. And especially not when female children are present.


Can we all just agree on this? You can winge and equivocate all day, but the above is true, and you aren't getting around it.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Obviously America isn't going to stand for wagging penises in women's locker rooms. And especially not when female children are present.


Can we all just agree on this? You can winge and equivocate all day, but the above is true, and you aren't getting around it.

Well, we're very glad that this is FINALLY obvious to shitbirds like you who have been advocating for wagging penises in women's locker rooms for some time now.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

It’s the definition of

I have no doubt that a trans woman in a mens lockerroom is much more likely to be abused than a trans woman abusing straight girls in a women’s room. I would agree with you there

The mere presence of men in a women's restroom, locker room, dressing room, etc., is abusive to any women or girls whose privacy and modesty are violated thereby.

You cannot advocate allowing mentally- and morally-degenerate male perverts the “right” to intrude in such places, and at the same time honesty deny that what you are advocating is the sexual abuse of women and girls.

Men have a duty to protect women and girls from such abuse, not to enable it.

Are trans women molesting little girls? Cause I haven’t heard of that being an issue. You know where I have heard of there being problems with child molestation… in the Catholic Church and Boy Scouts. How about you direct you anger in more appropriate places

Molesting? How about throwing their shlong out. That’s enough. Not appropriate. Well not to normal people. You being LGTBQ are fine with it

I realize that Slade - who pretty clearly had something happen in his own childhood that only his therapist needs to hear about - won't understand this, but exposing your genitals to children IS a form of sexual abuse. If some sicko goes to a playground in a trenchcoat and whips it open to flash his junk at kids, the cops arrest him and put him on the sex offender registry. If a father insists on walking around the house naked in front of his children, Child Protective Services shows up at his house with the cops to snatch those kids and slap him in cuffs. In neither of those cases does anyone say, "Oh, well, he didn't touch anyone, so it's no big deal." Only when the penis-bearer in question is "transgender" is it suddenly not sexual abuse.

Fuck that hypocritical bullshSpade

I have no doubt that a trans woman in a mens lockerroom is much more likely to be abused than a trans woman abusing straight girls in a women’s room. I would agree with you there

The mere presence of men in a women's restroom, locker room, dressing room, etc., is abusive to any women or girls whose privacy and modesty are violated thereby.

You cannot advocate allowing mentally- and morally-degenerate male perverts the “right” to intrude in such places, and at the same time honesty deny that what you are advocating is the sexual abuse of women and girls.

Men have a duty to protect women and girls from such abuse, not to enable it.

Are trans women molesting little girls? Cause I haven’t heard of that being an issue. You know where I have heard of there being problems with child molestation… in the Catholic Church and Boy Scouts. How about you direct you anger in more appropriate places

Molesting? How about throwing their shlong out. That’s enough. Not appropriate. Well not to normal people. You being LGTBQ are fine with it

I realize that Slade - who pretty clearly had something happen in his own childhood that only his therapist needs to hear about - won't understand this, but exposing your genitals to children IS a form of sexual abuse. If some sicko goes to a playground in a trenchcoat and whips it open to flash his junk at kids, the cops arrest him and put him on the sex offender registry. If a father insists on walking around the house naked in front of his children, Child Protective Services shows up at his house with the cops to snatch those kids and slap him in cuffs. In neither of those cases does anyone say, "Oh, well, he didn't touch anyone, so it's no big deal." Only when the penis-bearer in question is "transgender" is it suddenly not sexual abuse.

Fuck that hypocritical bullshit.

Why do you make shit up?! I’ve said several times that exposing a penis to little girls in a public Locker room is totally inappropriate. I’ve said the situation in the OP was inappropriate. so why do you lie and pretend that ive been defending it?! Also to presume I was molested as a child is sick ridiculous and shameful.

Sale

I have no doubt that a trans woman in a mens lockerroom is much more likely to be abused than a trans woman abusing straight girls in a women’s room. I would agree with you there

The mere presence of men in a women's restroom, locker room, dressing room, etc., is abusive to any women or girls whose privacy and modesty are violated thereby.

You cannot advocate allowing mentally- and morally-degenerate male perverts the “right” to intrude in such places, and at the same time honesty deny that what you are advocating is the sexual abuse of women and girls.

Men have a duty to protect women and girls from such abuse, not to enable it.

Are trans women molesting little girls? Cause I haven’t heard of that being an issue. You know where I have heard of there being problems with child molestation… in the Catholic Church and Boy Scouts. How about you direct you anger in more appropriate places

Molesting? How about throwing their shlong out. That’s enough. Not appropriate. Well not to normal people. You being LGTBQ are fine with it

I realize that Slade - who pretty clearly had something happen in his own childhood that only his therapist needs to hear about - won't understand this, but exposing your genitals to children IS a form of sexual abuse. If some sicko goes to a playground in a trenchcoat and whips it open to flash his junk at kids, the cops arrest him and put him on the sex offender registry. If a father insists on walking around the house naked in front of his children, Child Protective Services shows up at his house with the cops to snatch those kids and slap him in cuffs. In neither of those cases does anyone say, "Oh, well, he didn't touch anyone, so it's no big deal." Only when the penis-bearer in question is "transgender" is it suddenly not sexual abuse.

Fuck that hypocritical bullshit.

Why do you make shit up?! I’ve said several times that exposing a penis to little girls in a public Locker room is totally inappropriate. I’ve said the situation in the OP was inappropriate. so why do you lie and pretend that ive been defending it?! Also to presume I was molested as a child is sick ridiculous and shameful.

You are LGTBQ. Rest I do not know about not care

Your utter ignorance is a crack up!!

You spelled truth incorrectly. But I ll go along. How exactly am I ignorant? Be specific

You said I’m LGTBQ. You’re ignorant and wrong as always

How does that make me ignorant? Why are you ashamed of that? You do you

I have no doubt that a trans woman in a mens lockerroom is much more likely to be abused than a trans woman abusing straight girls in a women’s room. I would agree with you there

The mere presence of men in a women's restroom, locker room, dressing room, etc., is abusive to any women or girls whose privacy and modesty are violated thereby.

You cannot advocate allowing mentally- and morally-degenerate male perverts the “right” to intrude in such places, and at the same time honesty deny that what you are advocating is the sexual abuse of women and girls.

Men have a duty to protect women and girls from such abuse, not to enable it.

Are trans women molesting little girls? Cause I haven’t heard of that being an issue. You know where I have heard of there being problems with child molestation… in the Catholic Church and Boy Scouts. How about you direct you anger in more appropriate places

Molesting? How about throwing their shlong out. That’s enough. Not appropriate. Well not to normal people. You being LGTBQ are fine with it

I realize that Slade - who pretty clearly had something happen in his own childhood that only his therapist needs to hear about - won't understand this, but exposing your genitals to children IS a form of sexual abuse. If some sicko goes to a playground in a trenchcoat and whips it open to flash his junk at kids, the cops arrest him and put him on the sex offender registry. If a father insists on walking around the house naked in front of his children, Child Protective Services shows up at his house with the cops to snatch those kids and slap him in cuffs. In neither of those cases does anyone say, "Oh, well, he didn't touch anyone, so it's no big deal." Only when the penis-bearer in question is "transgender" is it suddenly not sexual abuse.

Fuck that hypocritical bullshSpade

I have no doubt that a trans woman in a mens lockerroom is much more likely to be abused than a trans woman abusing straight girls in a women’s room. I would agree with you there

The mere presence of men in a women's restroom, locker room, dressing room, etc., is abusive to any women or girls whose privacy and modesty are violated thereby.

You cannot advocate allowing mentally- and morally-degenerate male perverts the “right” to intrude in such places, and at the same time honesty deny that what you are advocating is the sexual abuse of women and girls.

Men have a duty to protect women and girls from such abuse, not to enable it.

Are trans women molesting little girls? Cause I haven’t heard of that being an issue. You know where I have heard of there being problems with child molestation… in the Catholic Church and Boy Scouts. How about you direct you anger in more appropriate places

Molesting? How about throwing their shlong out. That’s enough. Not appropriate. Well not to normal people. You being LGTBQ are fine with it

I realize that Slade - who pretty clearly had something happen in his own childhood that only his therapist needs to hear about - won't understand this, but exposing your genitals to children IS a form of sexual abuse. If some sicko goes to a playground in a trenchcoat and whips it open to flash his junk at kids, the cops arrest him and put him on the sex offender registry. If a father insists on walking around the house naked in front of his children, Child Protective Services shows up at his house with the cops to snatch those kids and slap him in cuffs. In neither of those cases does anyone say, "Oh, well, he didn't touch anyone, so it's no big deal." Only when the penis-bearer in question is "transgender" is it suddenly not sexual abuse.

Fuck that hypocritical bullshit.

Why do you make shit up?! I’ve said several times that exposing a penis to little girls in a public Locker room is totally inappropriate. I’ve said the situation in the OP was inappropriate. so why do you lie and pretend that ive been defending it?! Also to presume I was molested as a child is sick ridiculous and shameful.

Sale

I have no doubt that a trans woman in a mens lockerroom is much more likely to be abused than a trans woman abusing straight girls in a women’s room. I would agree with you there

The mere presence of men in a women's restroom, locker room, dressing room, etc., is abusive to any women or girls whose privacy and modesty are violated thereby.

You cannot advocate allowing mentally- and morally-degenerate male perverts the “right” to intrude in such places, and at the same time honesty deny that what you are advocating is the sexual abuse of women and girls.

Men have a duty to protect women and girls from such abuse, not to enable it.

Are trans women molesting little girls? Cause I haven’t heard of that being an issue. You know where I have heard of there being problems with child molestation… in the Catholic Church and Boy Scouts. How about you direct you anger in more appropriate places

Molesting? How about throwing their shlong out. That’s enough. Not appropriate. Well not to normal people. You being LGTBQ are fine with it

I realize that Slade - who pretty clearly had something happen in his own childhood that only his therapist needs to hear about - won't understand this, but exposing your genitals to children IS a form of sexual abuse. If some sicko goes to a playground in a trenchcoat and whips it open to flash his junk at kids, the cops arrest him and put him on the sex offender registry. If a father insists on walking around the house naked in front of his children, Child Protective Services shows up at his house with the cops to snatch those kids and slap him in cuffs. In neither of those cases does anyone say, "Oh, well, he didn't touch anyone, so it's no big deal." Only when the penis-bearer in question is "transgender" is it suddenly not sexual abuse.

Fuck that hypocritical bullshit.

Why do you make shit up?! I’ve said several times that exposing a penis to little girls in a public Locker room is totally inappropriate. I’ve said the situation in the OP was inappropriate. so why do you lie and pretend that ive been defending it?! Also to presume I was molested as a child is sick ridiculous and shameful.

You are LGTBQ. Rest I do not know about not care

Your utter ignorance is a crack up!!

You spelled truth incorrectly. But I ll go along. How exactly am I ignorant? Be specific

You said I’m LGTBQ. You’re ignorant and wrong as always

How does that make me ignorant? Why are you ashamed of that? You do you…

Well AzOg… you don’t know me, yet you presume to know that I’m LGBTQ, which you then incorrectly proclaim about me. So that pretty much fits the definition of both ignorant and troll

I asked you and you played coy. If you asked me, I'd simply say "no". You could not do that so I took that as a "yes". Not sure how that makes me ignorant or a troll but you do you.

Right so that was you being presumptive and ignorant. Ignorant because you made proclamation without confirmation that it was true and a troll because you made a statement about somebody else without knowing it to be true. I know you think you got things all figured out but you're wrong more often then not when you pretend to speak for others. Probably best not to do that.

I am correct about you

 

[Dadoalex]

we on the left don't understand what your whining about here or what you want us to defend.

This is just another culture war bullshit thread for your maga fuckup authoritarians.

Would you want your young daughters to share a locker room with that person?

It sounds like some asshole was showing off his penis, but you want to elevate it into something else.

That "asshole" is identifying as a woman and the club is defending him as I understand it.

Where is the evidence of that? There’s nothing in the story indicates that the spa was defending him or what happened as a result of this intrusion.

Once again you’re projecting your own paranoia and assumptions onto the situation because TRANNIES!!!!!!!

Sounds like an intruder. Why wasn't he arrested? Do they have security?

My God, do ANY of you people bother to find out what you're talking about before you start talking? Do you even understand the concept?

It's a gym. The penis-bearer in question is a member of the gym. He identifies as a woman, so he does his showering and changing in the women's locker room, rather than the men's. The gym staff refused to do anything about the female member's complaint because he identifies as a woman.

Thanks.. Sounds like the woman should quit and ask for her money back.

Apparently, she and another woman did. But what happens when the next gym has the same issue, and the next, and the next, because dipshit leftists in California have made it illegal for women to have private spaces separate from delusional penis-bearers?

Hmmm .. Maybe she should see a lawyer .. Her rights are being trampled.

Typical leftist. "We'll just rearrange everything to fit the reality we wish existed. Then we'll suggest that everyone who doesn't like it marginalize themselves out of normal life. THEN we'll suggest that they spend time and money fighting legal battles against the mess we've made, which they can't win because we passed asinine laws demanding our stupid fantasies. Then we'll all act bewildered by the damage that we've caused and try to find someone else to blame for it."

OF COURSE HER RIGHTS ARE BEING TRAMPLED, you dungbrain. EVERY woman's rights are being trampled by this "transgender" lunacy, and everyone on the right TOLD you they were going to be trampled from the get-go.

Here's a suggestion for you, Sparky: Maybe the shitbrains on the left should learn to suck it up and accept reality, so they can stop trying to force their mental illnesses on the rest of us. Maybe states like California should stop demanding that everyone has to pretend that people with penises are or can be women, and go back to arresting anyone with a dick who goes into the ladies' room. And maybe leftists should start fucking LISTENING when people on the right tell them that they're out of their fucking minds.

That's just off the top of my head, though.

So don't hire a lawyer.. Quit the spa.. If enough women agree with you and quit, they will take care of it themselves. Vote with your feet. Vote with your pocketbook.

That is what is happening as I understand it

Again, the question is, where are they supposed to go? Where are they going to find, in the state of California, a gym that doesn't allow men to dangle their dicks in the ladies' locker room?

Allowing transgendered people into locker rooms, it’s not a license for men to expose their penises to women in those locker rooms. Transgender people use the stalls and change rooms provided for privacy for women in any gym throughout North America.

I don't even know where to start with this level of abysmal ignorance proudly proclaiming itself to be intelligence, I really don't.

I am going to do you an enormous favor of which you are not even remotely worthy, and which I sincerely doubt you have the ability to use. I'm going to break this down and explain to you the reality you have so stubbornly and persistently avoided so that it won't get in the way of what you want to believe. No need to thank me.

1) People get naked in locker rooms. That is what locker rooms are FOR. One goes to the locker room at a gym to change from their street clothes to their workout clothes, and then to shower off the sweat after they exercise and change back to their street clothes. Showering and changing clothes, by definition, involves being naked at some point in time.

2) Allowing transgenders into the women's locker room, therefore, DOES allow them to get naked in that locker room, because why else would you allow them in there at all? To sightsee? That's no less creepy, completely aside from being ridiculous.

3) Your assertion that all "real" transgender people change in the stalls and are terribly modest and shy and ashamed about their bodies until they've been fully surgically altered is based on absolutely nothing in reality. I get that you wanted to imagine that it worked that way, because it makes them sound like they're all poor, tortured little victims you can feel sorry for and make asinine demands on behalf of, thereby letting you feel virtuous at the expense of other people's discomfort. Hate to break it to you, but that ain't how it is at all.

First of all, full "gender affirmation" surgery is EXTREMELY expensive. It's also typically done over an extended period of time, and usually after a certain amount of time spent on hormones. Partly that's because of the expense, but a big part of it is that no surgeon wants to cause that much trauma to a body all at once, and put a patient through that much pain and recovery all at once. In the interim, the transitioning person doesn't just lock himself in a room and do nothing; he goes about his regular life.

Second, transgender people are . . . people. As such, they are differing and complex and come in a wide variety of personality types, motivations, etc. Not all of them WANT the complete transition surgery. Not all of them want ANY surgery. Some of them are good with just the hormones; some are good with just changing their names and pronouns and cross-dressing. I can assure you that the transgender community considers all of that to still be "real transgenderism", and would kick your butt up and down the street for presuming to decide for someone else that it isn't.

Also, in with that whole "people" thing is the fact that some people who are transgender are assholes, just like some of any group you care to name are assholes. Being transgender doesn't make you immune from being a jerk, and it doesn't make you immune from being a pervert or a predator. I have known a number of people in the transgender community who get a special charge out of "freaking the mundanes". They LIKE displaying the fact that they're dressing and identifying the opposite of their birth gender to regular people and provoking a reaction. There's actually a contingent of these people in all segments of the LGBTQ community, as well as the BDSM community. Hell, that's a huge reason that Pride parades exist, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Also, being transgender doesn't mean a person can't also have an exhibitionist fetish and get off on flashing people, just the same as the stereotypical guy in the trench coat on the playground does.

4) Whether the guy in the locker room is actually transgender, in the sense that he routinely identifies as female in myriad aspects of his life, or is just a predator using transgender claims as a dodge to get in the women's locker room, there are two operative points here that you're skating past: the transgender activist agenda demands that nothing more is required than for someone to declare that they are this or that gender to make it true, and the law in California specifically prohibits anyone - including law enforcement - from questioning or challenging his identification as a woman in any way. The Wi Spa doesn't seem to particularly WANT to challenge it, but even if they did, they couldn't do so legally. They can't do a damned thing about him until such time as he physically harms someone, or they open themselves up to fines and lawsuits.

Oh, there's one other point here that you shouldn't miss: We told you this exact thing was going to be the result of the transgender agenda you were so eager to endorse so that you could feel "compassionate". Let's don't ever forget that we said it, you dismissed it, and you were dead wrong.

You are wholly ignorant of the mental workings of Trans people.

How do you know their mental workings?

I don't claim to "know."
I know several Trans people. We've talked.
I do know that you people know NOTHING of their mentality beyond your own perceived perversions.

Of course you do. You’re the utmost expert. Please STFU and stop hijacking this thread

You're whining at the wrong party. All I do is respond to posts. If you want to bitch take it up with your fellows.

Whining? You don’t know the meaning of the word. You are pathetic. Get lost. You cannot defend what happened so you deflect.

You mean I need to defend what you imagined in your Tiny Brain?
Your OP was literally fact free.
Allegation by some "KAREN," no video, no other witnesses, no perp, no victim....

So you justifiy what you imagined and why you imagine such sick crap 24x7 AND
How your imaginings qualify you as your state's official pecker checker!

There was a video. It was corroborated. You are a moron.

A video of a woman complaining about something.
Corroborated by people who saw the woman complaining.

So how's that pecker checker training coming. Always good to see someone pursuing a lifelong dream.

No one is disputing her story and there were other witnesses, caddo kid.

I'm not disputing.
Just pointing out how incomplete it is.
And those other witnesses just saw the woman complaining.
So...

Her kids saw it too!!! That’s why she is so angry.

Maybe she should have just pointed and laughed. Might have gotten his junk covered up faster.

Maybe she she could just imagine she pointed and laughed just like she did the rest of this fantasy.

Troll alert. This how your caddo kid account got banned.

Go complain.

Only pussies complain. So you should be right on that one. I am sure you will put me on ignore soon enough.

Please...
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I am glad I broke you again. Mission accomplished

Just like Afghanistan, huh?
running off, dick tucked in your crack, screaming about your latest "victory."

BWAHAHAHAHA

Yep. Broke you. Case in point. Stupid caddo kid.

The only point here is the one on your ginormous cranium hiding your tiny brain.

 

[otto105]

we on the left don't understand what your whining about here or what you want us to defend.

This is just another culture war bullshit thread for your maga fuckup authoritarians.

Would you want your young daughters to share a locker room with that person?

It sounds like some asshole was showing off his penis, but you want to elevate it into something else.

That "asshole" is identifying as a woman and the club is defending him as I understand it.

Where is the evidence of that? There’s nothing in the story indicates that the spa was defending him or what happened as a result of this intrusion.

Once again you’re projecting your own paranoia and assumptions onto the situation because TRANNIES!!!!!!!

Sounds like an intruder. Why wasn't he arrested? Do they have security?

My God, do ANY of you people bother to find out what you're talking about before you start talking? Do you even understand the concept?

It's a gym. The penis-bearer in question is a member of the gym. He identifies as a woman, so he does his showering and changing in the women's locker room, rather than the men's. The gym staff refused to do anything about the female member's complaint because he identifies as a woman.

Thanks.. Sounds like the woman should quit and ask for her money back.

Apparently, she and another woman did. But what happens when the next gym has the same issue, and the next, and the next, because dipshit leftists in California have made it illegal for women to have private spaces separate from delusional penis-bearers?

Hmmm .. Maybe she should see a lawyer .. Her rights are being trampled.

Typical leftist. "We'll just rearrange everything to fit the reality we wish existed. Then we'll suggest that everyone who doesn't like it marginalize themselves out of normal life. THEN we'll suggest that they spend time and money fighting legal battles against the mess we've made, which they can't win because we passed asinine laws demanding our stupid fantasies. Then we'll all act bewildered by the damage that we've caused and try to find someone else to blame for it."

OF COURSE HER RIGHTS ARE BEING TRAMPLED, you dungbrain. EVERY woman's rights are being trampled by this "transgender" lunacy, and everyone on the right TOLD you they were going to be trampled from the get-go.

Here's a suggestion for you, Sparky: Maybe the shitbrains on the left should learn to suck it up and accept reality, so they can stop trying to force their mental illnesses on the rest of us. Maybe states like California should stop demanding that everyone has to pretend that people with penises are or can be women, and go back to arresting anyone with a dick who goes into the ladies' room. And maybe leftists should start fucking LISTENING when people on the right tell them that they're out of their fucking minds.

That's just off the top of my head, though.

So don't hire a lawyer.. Quit the spa.. If enough women agree with you and quit, they will take care of it themselves. Vote with your feet. Vote with your pocketbook.

That is what is happening as I understand it

Again, the question is, where are they supposed to go? Where are they going to find, in the state of California, a gym that doesn't allow men to dangle their dicks in the ladies' locker room?

Allowing transgendered people into locker rooms, it’s not a license for men to expose their penises to women in those locker rooms. Transgender people use the stalls and change rooms provided for privacy for women in any gym throughout North America.

I don't even know where to start with this level of abysmal ignorance proudly proclaiming itself to be intelligence, I really don't.

I am going to do you an enormous favor of which you are not even remotely worthy, and which I sincerely doubt you have the ability to use. I'm going to break this down and explain to you the reality you have so stubbornly and persistently avoided so that it won't get in the way of what you want to believe. No need to thank me.

1) People get naked in locker rooms. That is what locker rooms are FOR. One goes to the locker room at a gym to change from their street clothes to their workout clothes, and then to shower off the sweat after they exercise and change back to their street clothes. Showering and changing clothes, by definition, involves being naked at some point in time.

2) Allowing transgenders into the women's locker room, therefore, DOES allow them to get naked in that locker room, because why else would you allow them in there at all? To sightsee? That's no less creepy, completely aside from being ridiculous.

3) Your assertion that all "real" transgender people change in the stalls and are terribly modest and shy and ashamed about their bodies until they've been fully surgically altered is based on absolutely nothing in reality. I get that you wanted to imagine that it worked that way, because it makes them sound like they're all poor, tortured little victims you can feel sorry for and make asinine demands on behalf of, thereby letting you feel virtuous at the expense of other people's discomfort. Hate to break it to you, but that ain't how it is at all.

First of all, full "gender affirmation" surgery is EXTREMELY expensive. It's also typically done over an extended period of time, and usually after a certain amount of time spent on hormones. Partly that's because of the expense, but a big part of it is that no surgeon wants to cause that much trauma to a body all at once, and put a patient through that much pain and recovery all at once. In the interim, the transitioning person doesn't just lock himself in a room and do nothing; he goes about his regular life.

Second, transgender people are . . . people. As such, they are differing and complex and come in a wide variety of personality types, motivations, etc. Not all of them WANT the complete transition surgery. Not all of them want ANY surgery. Some of them are good with just the hormones; some are good with just changing their names and pronouns and cross-dressing. I can assure you that the transgender community considers all of that to still be "real transgenderism", and would kick your butt up and down the street for presuming to decide for someone else that it isn't.

Also, in with that whole "people" thing is the fact that some people who are transgender are assholes, just like some of any group you care to name are assholes. Being transgender doesn't make you immune from being a jerk, and it doesn't make you immune from being a pervert or a predator. I have known a number of people in the transgender community who get a special charge out of "freaking the mundanes". They LIKE displaying the fact that they're dressing and identifying the opposite of their birth gender to regular people and provoking a reaction. There's actually a contingent of these people in all segments of the LGBTQ community, as well as the BDSM community. Hell, that's a huge reason that Pride parades exist, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Also, being transgender doesn't mean a person can't also have an exhibitionist fetish and get off on flashing people, just the same as the stereotypical guy in the trench coat on the playground does.

4) Whether the guy in the locker room is actually transgender, in the sense that he routinely identifies as female in myriad aspects of his life, or is just a predator using transgender claims as a dodge to get in the women's locker room, there are two operative points here that you're skating past: the transgender activist agenda demands that nothing more is required than for someone to declare that they are this or that gender to make it true, and the law in California specifically prohibits anyone - including law enforcement - from questioning or challenging his identification as a woman in any way. The Wi Spa doesn't seem to particularly WANT to challenge it, but even if they did, they couldn't do so legally. They can't do a damned thing about him until such time as he physically harms someone, or they open themselves up to fines and lawsuits.

Oh, there's one other point here that you shouldn't miss: We told you this exact thing was going to be the result of the transgender agenda you were so eager to endorse so that you could feel "compassionate". Let's don't ever forget that we said it, you dismissed it, and you were dead wrong.

You are wholly ignorant of the mental workings of Trans people.

How do you know their mental workings?

I don't claim to "know."
I know several Trans people. We've talked.
I do know that you people know NOTHING of their mentality beyond your own perceived perversions.

Of course you do. You’re the utmost expert. Please STFU and stop hijacking this thread

You're whining at the wrong party. All I do is respond to posts. If you want to bitch take it up with your fellows.

Whining? You don’t know the meaning of the word. You are pathetic. Get lost. You cannot defend what happened so you deflect.

You mean I need to defend what you imagined in your Tiny Brain?
Your OP was literally fact free.
Allegation by some "KAREN," no video, no other witnesses, no perp, no victim....

So you justifiy what you imagined and why you imagine such sick crap 24x7 AND
How your imaginings qualify you as your state's official pecker checker!

There was a video. It was corroborated. You are a moron.

A video of a woman complaining about something.
Corroborated by people who saw the woman complaining.

So how's that pecker checker training coming. Always good to see someone pursuing a lifelong dream.

No one is disputing her story and there were other witnesses, caddo kid.

I'm not disputing.
Just pointing out how incomplete it is.
And those other witnesses just saw the woman complaining.
So...

Her kids saw it too!!! That’s why she is so angry.

Maybe she should have just pointed and laughed. Might have gotten his junk covered up faster.

Maybe she she could just imagine she pointed and laughed just like she did the rest of this fantasy.

Troll alert. This how your caddo kid account got banned.

Go complain.

Only pussies complain. So you should be right on that one. I am sure you will put me on ignore soon enough.

Please...
View attachment 510155

I am glad I broke you again. Mission accomplished

Just like Afghanistan, huh?
running off, dick tucked in your crack, screaming about your latest "victory."

BWAHAHAHAHA

Yep. Broke you. Case in point. Stupid caddo kid.

The only point here is the one on your ginormous cranium hiding your tiny brain.

Lowland orcs are that way.

 

[jc456]

Let intelligent people unshackle the country from the dark ages of hypocrisy and lies.

well that excludes you, so what now?

 

[jc456]

The only point here is the one on your ginormous cranium hiding your tiny brain.

thousand times larger than yours, oh wait, you don't have one. hahahahahahaahahahhaahaha

 

[Burgermeister]

Another consequence anybody could have seen coming - Moving Transgender Inmates to Female Prisons Results in Sickening Assaults

After hundreds of male inmates who identify as female have been transferred by request to women’s prisons in California, many female inmates have become victims of assault at the hands of these transfers.

Lauren Adams, legal counsel for the Women’s Liberation Front, told Just the News that “no one is listening” to the female inmates who are afraid of men being transferred to their prisons by request after a new California law went into effect on the first of the year.