How bad does the gop need Chris Cristie

[bendog]

This is why I thought the gleefulness of those like Ayn Paul so idiotically depressing. I doubt the gop can get enough gop support for a NE moderate, but the polls aren't wrong that the RW radicalsim of the gop is just not playing well to get to 270 EV.

How Bad Does the GOP Need Chris Christie? Really Bad. - The Daily Beast

 

[Pennywise]

Yeah I always go the the Daily Beast when in need of the some GOP advice.

 

[bendog]

Well your usual sites are not working.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

This is why I thought the gleefulness of those like Ayn Paul so idiotically depressing. I doubt the gop can get enough gop support for a NE moderate, but the polls aren't wrong that the RW radicalsim of the gop is just not playing well to get to 270 EV.

It's 2014

 

[JakeStarkey]

If we want to win national elections again, we need a CC type of candidate to run against HRC.

If not, the GOP will get clobbered again.

 

[candycorn]

This is why I thought the gleefulness of those like Ayn Paul so idiotically depressing. I doubt the gop can get enough gop support for a NE moderate, but the polls aren't wrong that the RW radicalsim of the gop is just not playing well to get to 270 EV.

How Bad Does the GOP Need Chris Christie? Really Bad. - The Daily Beast

From a 2016 perspective, the need is actually not that great insofar as "needing" to run Governor Christie against the Democrats. What the jeopardy for the GOP is that there are very few vacuums in politics and when you're not filling the void, the void gets filled by someone or something else. As one of the very few ropes the GOP has to any mooring close enough to approach 270 without much help from the Democrats or incumbent fatigue; Christie represents the best hope the GOP has (but not the only hope) of a candidate that can win the office on his or her own cult of personality. As a voice in the Party, Governor Christie represents something far greater, a common-sense Republican who tells the truth about the hard right.

If his voice is silenced by his own mis-deeds, it's not only his candidacy that is lost to the GOP, but his ability to show the GOP in a better light than most see it.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Who?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

If we want to win national elections again, we need a CC type of candidate to run against HRC.

If not, the GOP will get clobbered again.

...because Moderate who can work across the aisle have done so well for us?

 

[JakeStarkey]

. . . because the far right can't field a candidate that the rest of America won't throw up when s/he speaks.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

. . . because the far right can't field a candidate that the rest of America won't throw up when s/he speaks.

John McCain, Moderate, nice guy, loses to a radical

Mitt Romney, Moderate, nice guy, loses to a radical

 

[bendog]

. . . because the far right can't field a candidate that the rest of America won't throw up when s/he speaks.

I think Paul Ryan was our guy, in that he appears to have concluded his policies for privatizing middle class entitlements is simply not electorally possible, so like Reagan before him, he is open to compromise inorder to achieve a biz friendly govt. But, he's not running.

I think Scott Walker can do it.

But the problem for the gop is that the Kochs will put the money on someone beholden to the extreme right of essentially Paul Ryan's failed policies of the Romney campaign. Christie had a much different message of compromise, and he had the ability to raise money on wall st. And, Walker does not.

I'm not bothering to link them after the assine first response vis a vis daily beast, but you can look at the polls. Hillary crushes the whackadoodles. The gop has to find a person who can get votes from the under employed former union folks in the midwest, and from the folks raising kids on 60k or less. Commenting upon 47%ers, or rolling back tax reform aimed at rich people's offshore accounts, is a losing strategy.

 

[Richard-H]

If the GOP collectively had a brain, they'd nominate Jon Huntsman.

But, if the GOP collectively had a brain, they would have nominated Jon Huntsman in 2012.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Advice from Dems: If the GOP wants to be liked by Democrats, they'd nominate someone who walks, talks and acts like a Democrat.

No, thanks

Christie was liked, look where it got him

 

[HelenaHandbag]

If the GOP collectively had a brain, they'd nominate Jon Huntsman.

But, if the GOP collectively had a brain, they would have nominated Jon Huntsman in 2012.

They nominated democrats the last two elections. It didn't work out so hot for them.

 

[Mr Natural]

Without Chtistie and rational republicans like him, the teabaggers will see to it that some freakshow will get the nomination and get his or her ass kicked by the lamest of democrats.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

This is why I like the idea of Sarah Palin as candidate, ideally Palin and Ben Carson, just because of the hate and spittle the Dems will pour forth 24/7/365. They're so alien to anything the Dems might like they HAVE to be good

 

[Richard-H]

If the GOP collectively had a brain, they'd nominate Jon Huntsman.

But, if the GOP collectively had a brain, they would have nominated Jon Huntsman in 2012.

They nominated democrats the last two elections. It didn't work out so hot for them.

No, they nominated conservative Republicans in the last 2 elections.

The fact that the wing nuts don't really know what a republican is shows just why they don't have much of a chance of winning the next election.

The best thing for the GOP would be if all the free libertarians and Tea Partyers would leave the GOP and let the true Republicans have their party back.

 

[JakeStarkey]

. . . because the far right can't field a candidate that the rest of America won't throw up when s/he speaks.

John McCain, Moderate, nice guy, loses to a radical

Mitt Romney, Moderate, nice guy, loses to a radical

Obama is slight left of center, not a radical.

McCain and Romney lost because they catered to your wing of the party, and the rest of America will not tolerate it.

 

[HelenaHandbag]

If the GOP collectively had a brain, they'd nominate Jon Huntsman.

But, if the GOP collectively had a brain, they would have nominated Jon Huntsman in 2012.

They nominated democrats the last two elections. It didn't work out so hot for them.

No, they nominated conservative Republicans in the last 2 elections.

The fact that the wing nuts don't really know what a republican is shows just why they don't have much of a chance of winning the next election.

The best thing for the GOP would be if all the free libertarians and Tea Partyers would leave the GOP and let the true Republicans have their party back.

If Romney and McCain are conservatives, I'm Ayn Rand.

The way that the both of them were marketed was as as centrist, reach-across-the-aisle pragmatist deal cutters, not as conservatives.

That leftist cranks in either part consider them to be conservatives just goes to show how far to the socialist crackpot left the Democrat Party has swerved.

 

[JakeStarkey]

If the GOP collectively had a brain, they'd nominate Jon Huntsman.

But, if the GOP collectively had a brain, they would have nominated Jon Huntsman in 2012.

They nominated democrats the last two elections. It didn't work out so hot for them.

We nominated moderates who were tied to tightly to the throw up far right.

America will not tolerate the far right, period.