Here We Go - Biden's DOJ Declares COVID-19 Vaccine Mandates Are Legal

[dblack]

Wrong.
What if the employers were saying you have to join my religion if you want to work here?
Mandating anything personal by employers is illegal.

I'm not addressing the legality issues. I said no one's rights are violated. Because they're not.

 

[DrLove]

They can but then they are also assuming liability for your health in case something goes wrong down the road.

Lol - Are Sidney & Rudy & Abbott, DeSantis and MrPillow going to start suing judges?

Kewell / Will be wild!

 

[DrLove]

As an RN, If I give you a vaccine without your consent, that is assault. Both ass grabbing and vaccinations against consent are assault There is no difference. An employer is not allowed to mandate healthcare decisions. They are not allowed to fire based on healthcare decisions. Especially for a goddamn vaccine that doesn’t even work. It’s not even a vaccine, it’s a shitty therapeutic. Its the most dangerous vaccine in history, and there’s far more effective treatments and prophylactics out there. It’s also an insane practice to do during a pandemic with this type of rapidly mutating RNA virus. The only thing that is for sure going to happen with the evolutionary pressure we’re putting on the virus (it’s already happening) is that we are going to select a mutation that is resistant to the vaccine. Just like Biden COVID czar, dr Micheal olsterholm, said would happen in March of 2020. We have never produced a vaccine for this type of rapidly evolving RMA virus for that exact reason. We’re watching the vaccine fail against the delta variant in the most heavily vaccinated places, and we’re already talking about the lambda variant. We’ve passively already identified 2000 different variants.

This vaccine nonsense has reached an insane level. We’re watching the milgram experiment play out in real life. Some guy in a lab coat is telling test subjects to shock the other test subjects against their will, and 70% of y’all are doing it.

Oh Lordy, nobody is going to hold u down & jab you. ALL these horrid unvaxed Southern States are Right to Work and may fire you without reason ONE.

Catch up

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Lol - Are Sidney & Rudy & Abbott, DeSantis and MrPillow going to start suing judges?

Kewell / Will be wild!

Not judges, but the places that have getting the shot as a mandate to work. They are not only not only unqualified people recommending medical advice, they are forcing you to follow it. Three or four years down the road they discover these vaccines are causing kidney damage, and you become very ill if not deathly ill, you sue them for forcing you to take a vaccine that was not approved by our FDA. After all, you didn't want the damn thing and only took it because you had to in order to keep your job, that employer is responsible.

 

[DrLove]

Not judges, but the places that have getting the shot as a mandate to work. They are not only not only unqualified people recommending medical advice, they are forcing you to follow it. Three or four years down the road they discover these vaccines are causing kidney damage, and you become very ill if not deathly ill, you sue them for forcing you to take a vaccine that was not approved by our FDA. After all, you didn't want the damn thing and only took it because you had to in order to keep your job, that employer is responsible.

You special too Ray!!

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You special too Ray!!

Mom! Is that you???

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Not judges, but the places that have getting the shot as a mandate to work. They are not only not only unqualified people recommending medical advice, they are forcing you to follow it. Three or four years down the road they discover these vaccines are causing kidney damage, and you become very ill if not deathly ill, you sue them for forcing you to take a vaccine that was not approved by our FDA. After all, you didn't want the damn thing and only took it because you had to in order to keep your job, that employer is responsible.

You need to work on your writing, reseach and logic skils

 

[sakinago]

Oh Lordy, nobody is going to hold u down & jab you. ALL these horrid unvaxed Southern States are Right to Work and may fire you without reason ONE.

Catch up

Um you know that “right to work” places get successfully sued for wrongful termination all the time. It’s a whole billion plus dollar industry of law. You know, for things like discrimination...based on health status. Like if you were to fire someone because you’re worried about their ailing back messing with your insurance rates. If they lawyer up, that homeboy is getting paid. Catch up.

Love how the left is all about business rights now. Whoever is the authoritarian, they’re all about it. Problem is overreach is overreach, whether it’s from the private sector, or the public sector.

We’ve already determined that personal individual rights trump business rights. Over. And over. And over. Take for instance the gay baker. His business has no right to deny the gay wedding cake. The little sisters of poverty or whatever nun group aren’t allowed to deny paying for the morning after pills for employees. Informed consent is the ENTIRE foundation of medical ethics. Doctors CANNOT say “take this drug, or I will punish you in some way”. THAT IS NOT CONSENT. Informed CONSENT is every Americans god given right. When you give consent in a contract, or in a court, etc, you are always asked to testify to the fact that you are of sound mind, and not being pressured into the decision. THE THREAT TO FIRE IS NOT INFORMED CONSENT, no matter which way you want to slice it.

 

[FA_Q2]

Wrong. The specific deal with companies producing this and emergency use authorization is that you cannot sue over damages, since it does not have FDA approval and it was rushed out.

That is specific to this waiver, yes. That was not the claim, the claim was that this one required a waiver and others did not. That is simply not true, the others come with a waiver that protected everyone in the chain if one of the many side effects happens. A list that universally includes death and disability.

 

[FA_Q2]

I'm not addressing the legality issues. I said no one's rights are violated. Because they're not.

It is interesting to note that it actually is possible for a business to require someone be a specific religion in current law:

Bona Fide Occupational Qualification - FindLaw

Discrimination against people based on their race, religion, gender, national origin, age or other protected status is generally prohibited under the laws of the

www.findlaw.com

So the premise was incorrect from the get go