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Healthcare winners and losers?

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Obviously with the passage of the healtchare bill the biggest winners are deadbeats, the indigent and illegal aliens.

But apart from that, who are the biggest beneficiaries in this giant leap toward socialism and who suffers the greatest cost?
 

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the insurance companies benefit.
 

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Do you have any facts to prove what you claim this bill does?
 

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I think it's obvious that everyone agrees...nobody is going to benefit.
 

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Obviously with the passage of the healtchare bill the biggest winners are deadbeats, the indigent and illegal aliens.

But apart from that, who are the biggest beneficiaries in this giant leap toward socialism and who suffers the greatest cost?


No - they are the pawns to justify the expanse of government.

If this Obamanation is allowed to stand, which is not a given...

The biggest winners:

- Big Government, which will get bigger consisting of:
a) Politicians who now have more dependents to add to their voting blocs.
b) Government bureaucrats, more funding to swell their ranks.
c) Public employee unions, who extract their unearned share of taxpayer productivity.

- Mega Corporation Cronies, who will work with Big Government to divide up the tax pie, shutting off smaller competitors, and securing government guaranteed territories and profits.

- The Vestiges of ACORN, who will continue to receive Federal Funds in the effort to escort the "uninsured" (who despite their Near Death Condition, won't be insured until 2014) to the voting booths and to "instruct" them how to vote.

- Statists, those who have long wanted to replace our values and system of government which was designed to protect individual liberty and to limit government with one that enshrines power in the state and makes the individual subservient to it.


The biggest losers: every individual around the world who values his liberty and respects that of others.
 

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Obviously with the passage of the healtchare bill the biggest winners are deadbeats, the indigent and illegal aliens.

But apart from that, who are the biggest beneficiaries in this giant leap toward socialism and who suffers the greatest cost?

insurance companies.

joe public
 

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It does not prove anything that he claims.
 

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Obviously with the passage of the healtchare bill the biggest winners are deadbeats, the indigent and illegal aliens.Prove this from the pages of the bill or anywhere.

But apart from that, who are the biggest beneficiaries in this giant leap toward socialism and who suffers the greatest cost?


Prove what you claim.
 
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Obviously with the passage of the healtchare bill the biggest winners are deadbeats, the indigent and illegal aliens.

But apart from that, who are the biggest beneficiaries in this giant leap toward socialism and who suffers the greatest cost?

There won't be any illegal aliens soon. Next up: Amnesty.
 
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the insurance companies benefit.
Greatly. Getting potentially 20 million NEW customers they never had a chance at before. BILLIONS in new revenue. TONS more power.

Were I a friend of big pharma and big insurance, I would have crafted a bill such as this.

Another BIG winner in this is the IRS. Awarded massive, far-reaching NEW intrusive powers, tons more money for its operating budget, and 16,000 new agents right off the bat.
 

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Obviously with the passage of the healtchare bill the biggest winners are deadbeats, the indigent and illegal aliens.Prove this from the pages of the bill or anywhere.

But apart from that, who are the biggest beneficiaries in this giant leap toward socialism and who suffers the greatest cost?


Prove what you claim.


Just Read The Bill.

Health Care Bill - Text of H.R.3590 as Engrossed Amendment Senate: Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act -... OpenCongress
 

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Obviously with the passage of the healtchare bill the biggest winners are deadbeats, the indigent and illegal aliens.Prove this from the pages of the bill or anywhere.

But apart from that, who are the biggest beneficiaries in this giant leap toward socialism and who suffers the greatest cost?


Prove what you claim.


Just Read The Bill.

Health Care Bill - Text of H.R.3590 as Engrossed Amendment Senate: Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act -... OpenCongress

What he claims is not in there.
 

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Obviously with the passage of the healtchare bill the biggest winners are deadbeats, the indigent and illegal aliens.Prove this from the pages of the bill or anywhere.

But apart from that, who are the biggest beneficiaries in this giant leap toward socialism and who suffers the greatest cost?


Prove what you claim.

will not dead beats recieve cheap / free health care if they can not afford it....

will not the indigent recieve cheap / free health care if they can not afford it....

as for the illegal alien....if they can produce "documentation" that they are legal ....will they not recieve cheap / free helath care....

are these not some of the 30 million unisured.....
 

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