Zone1 Hawaii Just Found A Way To Keep Corporations Out Of Politics

[MarcATL]

then Hawaii loses all corporations business. telling a corporation, it can't do legal things it is allowed to do will result in no business being done in that state.

That's not how it works son.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Republicans are scum of the earth to allow the unconstitutional monstrousity called 'Citizens United', they even gave it a cute name like the fascists they are.

Kudos to the State of Hawaii for putting a stop to that madness.

clean debate zone stop using pejoratives, and keep it clean

 

[skews13]

I chose not to mention that in my reply, the idea that a single state can arbitrarily deny such to a Corporation not headquartered in their state is a big legal question, but if they can then all corporations will stop doing business in that state, they will not stop the activities that Hawaii is pushing for.

Any corporation that wants to leave Hawaii is welcome to do so. There is no shortage of other companies that would happily take their seat.

 

[Alicia J]

Please keep the conversation civil.

I apologize. They merged two threads and the thread I responded to was in Politics.

 

[skews13]

That violates the first amendment. The courts will strike it down

States rights conservatives. All for states rights until it interferes with the narrative.

The legislation was passed with bipartisan support, and has nothing to do with free speech. This isn't a free speech issue. It's a Federalist issue of a state using it's Constitutional powers to set the rules of corporate charters within that state.

 

[skews13]

I apologize. They merged two threads and the thread I responded to was in Politics.

We're good.

 

[SaxonJackson]

then Hawaii loses all corporations business. telling a corporation, it can't do legal things it is allowed to do will result in no business being done in that state.

Good. That'll help the independent businesses. They'd be stupid to leave, though. A company doesn't make profit when it folds up and quits. But so be it. We've all seen the damage corporatism does. Hawaii is doing the right thing.

 

[Eman623]

So as corporations, I guess all of the following are banned from engaging in any sort of political activity in Hawaii:

Q. which 501 corporations engage in political activity?


A. Many tax-exempt organizations under section 501 of the Internal Revenue Code engage in some form of political or public policy activity, but the rules vary a lot depending on the subsection.
Here’s the basic breakdown:

Type	Political Activity Allowed?	Donations Tax Deductible?
501(c)(3) charities	Very limited	Usually yes
501(c)(4) social welfare groups	Extensive lobbying and some campaign activity	No
501(c)(5) labor unions	Yes	No
501(c)(6) trade associations	Yes	No
PACs / Super PACs	Primarily political	No

501(c)(3) Organizations​

These cannot directly support or oppose candidates for office. That prohibition is strict.
However, they can:

• lobby to a limited extent,
• advocate on public issues,
• conduct voter registration drives,
• publish issue guides,
• host candidate forums if done neutrally

Examples

• American Civil Liberties Union Foundation
• Sierra Club Foundation
• Planned Parenthood Federation of America
• These groups often have separate affiliated political organizations.

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501(c)(4) Organizations​

These are “social welfare” organizations. They may engage in substantial lobbying and some political campaign activity, as long as politics is not their “primary purpose.”
Examples:

• National Rifle Association Institute for Legislative Action
• Planned Parenthood Action Fund
• Sierra Club
• American Association of Retired Persons

These groups commonly:

• endorse legislation,
• run issue ads,
• lobby Congress,
• influence elections indirectly.

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501(c)(5) — Labor Unions​

Labor unions can engage heavily in politics.
Examples:

• Service Employees International Union
• International Brotherhood of Teamsters

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501(c)(6) — Trade Associations​

Business leagues and trade groups also engage in lobbying and advocacy.
Examples:

• U.S. Chamber of Commerce
• National Association of Realtors

I wonder how vigorously Hawaii will enforce any bans on the SEIU or Teamsters from engaging in any political activity. My guess is not a lot to nil.