Has anyone read Rules for Radicals?

[ihopehefails]

I'm only on page 15 but so far it sounds like a bunch of space-hippie stuff. So far I haven't discovered the point of this and reads like some kind of 'yellow-submarine' trip. Can someone chime in on their thoughts?

 

[blastoff]

I've only read parts of it and it was a while ago. I'd sum up those parts as sort of the means justify the end.

Check with Hillary. Her senior thesis was on Alinsky.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

Yes absolutely. To fully understand Socialists/Progressives,you have to read Saul Alinsky's 'Rules for Radicals.' Our current President is a loyal & obedient Saul Alinsky "Community Organizer" disciple. Most Democrats are these days. It's all an instruction manual for Marxist "Community Organizer" agitation. It's a fascinating read in my opinion. You really do better understand the current Socialist/Progressive Democrats after reading it. You have to first know your enemy if you ever want to defeat them. I recommend everyone read 'Rules for Radicals.' A must-read for sure.

 

[California Girl]

I've read it. As any soldier will attest 'know your enemy.' Vital reading for the right!

 

[ihopehefails]

I've read it. As any soldier will attest 'know your enemy.' Vital reading for the right!

That is what I thought as well. I'm on page 20. I've already found some communist leanings such as describing todays oppressors as yesterdays oppressed. That idea comes right from the communist manifesto of eternal class warfare that Max talked about in the communist manifesto where he says the liberals of the french and english revolutions became the industrialist oppressors of his day.

 

[Luissa]

 

[Ragnar]

I keep passing it up on those weekly trips to Barns and Noble (never see it at Half Price Books or I'd buy it used). It's on my list but I can't seem to commit to it. Last trip to B&N yeilded me Leonard Levy's, Origins of the Bill of Rights. Only just started that one.

Wish you luck. The Communist Manifesto is a tough enough slog and it's really just a pamphlet, lol.

 

[Amanda]

Yes absolutely. To fully understand Socialists/Progressives,you have to read Saul Alinsky's 'Rules for Radicals.' Our current President is a loyal & obedient Saul Alinsky "Community Organizer" disciple. Most Democrats are these days. It's all an instruction manual for Marxist "Community Organizer" agitation. It's a fascinating read in my opinion. You really do better understand the current Socialist/Progressive Democrats after reading it. You have to first know your enemy if you ever want to defeat them. I recommend everyone read 'Rules for Radicals.' A must-read for sure.

Thanks for the tip, I'll look for it. I absolutely love reading liberal/Leftist works.

 

[Luissa]

Looks like the Tea Party read it also:

Rule 1: Power is not only what you have, but what an opponent thinks you have. If your organization is small, hide your numbers in the dark and raise a din that will make everyone think you have many more people than you do.
Rule 2: Never go outside the experience of your people. The result is confusion, fear, and retreat.
Rule 3: Whenever possible, go outside the experience of an opponent. Here you want to cause confusion, fear, and retreat.
Rule 4: Make opponents live up to their own book of rules. “You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity.”
Rule 5: Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It’s hard to counterattack ridicule, and it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage.
Rule 6: A good tactic is one your people enjoy. “If your people aren’t having a ball doing it, there is something very wrong with the tactic.”
Rule 7: A tactic that drags on for too long becomes a drag. Commitment may become ritualistic as people turn to other issues.
Rule 8: Keep the pressure on. Use different tactics and actions and use all events of the period for your purpose. “The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition. It is this that will cause the opposition to react to your advantage.”
Rule 9: The threat is more terrifying than the thing itself. When Alinsky leaked word that large numbers of poor people were going to tie up the washrooms of O’Hare Airport, Chicago city authorities quickly agreed to act on a longstanding commitment to a ghetto organization. They imagined the mayhem as thousands of passengers poured off airplanes to discover every washroom occupied. Then they imagined the international embarrassment and the damage to the city’s reputation.
Rule 10: The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative. Avoid being trapped by an opponent or an interviewer who says, “Okay, what would you do?”
Rule 11: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, polarize it. Don’t try to attack abstract corporations or bureaucracies. Identify a responsible individual. Ignore attempts to shift or spread the blame.

Rules for Radicals - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Rule one and eleven especially!

 

[Luissa]

Here is a quote about Saul Alinsky...
""one of the great American leaders of the nonsocialist left."[1]

Saul Alinsky - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[ihopehefails]

I keep passing it up on those weekly trips to Barns and Noble (never see it at Half Price Books or I'd buy it used). It's on my list but I can't seem to commit to it. Last trip to B&N yeilded me Leonard Levy's, Origins of the Bill of Rights. Only just started that one.

Wish you luck. The Communist Manifesto is a tough enough slog and it's really just a pamphlet, lol.

Its very interesting that you mention that book because I'm convinced that Marx, along with his fellow Hegallian phillosophers were attempting to create some kind of human religion. What else explains the spiritual tone of that particular book?

 

[WillowTree]

I'm only on page 15 but so far it sounds like a bunch of space-hippie stuff. So far I haven't discovered the point of this and reads like some kind of 'yellow-submarine' trip. Can someone chime in on their thoughts?

It reads like USMB right? Thought so.

 

[Gem]

I looked into Alinsky during the SNL - Sarah Palin skits. I think Alinsky would have been proud of the way the left managed to ridicule Sarah Palin into irrelevancy for many of the very same issues she shared with Obama...while he remained unscathed.

Basically, when I read Alinsky what I take away from it is profound sadness at how simplistic and easily duped we all are en masse...that someone can say "Hey...this is how you dupe the masses," someone else can do EXACTLY THAT...and people follow along, lock step, unaware of how they are being played.

 

[mudwhistle]

I've read it. As any soldier will attest 'know your enemy.' Vital reading for the right!

Vital read for anyone.

Can't make any excuses for the Dems if you know what they're up to.

 

[Bfgrn]

I've read it. As any soldier will attest 'know your enemy.' Vital reading for the right!

Other American citizens are the ENEMY? Just because their views and opinions differ from yours...

Pretty sad...

 

[California Girl]

Looks like the Tea Party read it also:

Rule 1: Power is not only what you have, but what an opponent thinks you have. If your organization is small, hide your numbers in the dark and raise a din that will make everyone think you have many more people than you do.
Rule 2: Never go outside the experience of your people. The result is confusion, fear, and retreat.
Rule 3: Whenever possible, go outside the experience of an opponent. Here you want to cause confusion, fear, and retreat.
Rule 4: Make opponents live up to their own book of rules. “You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity.”
Rule 5: Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It’s hard to counterattack ridicule, and it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage.
Rule 6: A good tactic is one your people enjoy. “If your people aren’t having a ball doing it, there is something very wrong with the tactic.”
Rule 7: A tactic that drags on for too long becomes a drag. Commitment may become ritualistic as people turn to other issues.
Rule 8: Keep the pressure on. Use different tactics and actions and use all events of the period for your purpose. “The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition. It is this that will cause the opposition to react to your advantage.”
Rule 9: The threat is more terrifying than the thing itself. When Alinsky leaked word that large numbers of poor people were going to tie up the washrooms of O’Hare Airport, Chicago city authorities quickly agreed to act on a longstanding commitment to a ghetto organization. They imagined the mayhem as thousands of passengers poured off airplanes to discover every washroom occupied. Then they imagined the international embarrassment and the damage to the city’s reputation.
Rule 10: The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative. Avoid being trapped by an opponent or an interviewer who says, “Okay, what would you do?”
Rule 11: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, polarize it. Don’t try to attack abstract corporations or bureaucracies. Identify a responsible individual. Ignore attempts to shift or spread the blame.

Rules for Radicals - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Rule one and eleven especially!

Yep. They learned it from the decades of being on the receiving end of the shit. What goes around, comes around.

 

[California Girl]

I've read it. As any soldier will attest 'know your enemy.' Vital reading for the right!

Other American citizens are the ENEMY? Just because their views and opinions differ from yours...

Pretty sad...

Anyone who disregards the Constitution is my enemy. Frankly, I don't give a shit what nationality they claim.

 

[WillowTree]

I looked into Alinsky during the SNL - Sarah Palin skits. I think Alinsky would have been proud of the way the left managed to ridicule Sarah Palin into irrelevancy for many of the very same issues she shared with Obama...while he remained unscathed.

Basically, when I read Alinsky what I take away from it is profound sadness at how simplistic and easily duped we all are en masse...that someone can say "Hey...this is how you dupe the masses," someone else can do EXACTLY THAT...and people follow along, lock step, unaware of how they are being played.

oh,, but they didn't ridicule her into irrelevancy, they ridiculed her into riches, and it's like a cancer eating their noses off.. tickles the crap out of me.

 

[Bfgrn]

I've read it. As any soldier will attest 'know your enemy.' Vital reading for the right!

Other American citizens are the ENEMY? Just because their views and opinions differ from yours...

Pretty sad...

Anyone who disregards the Constitution is my enemy. Frankly, I don't give a shit what nationality they claim.

Really? HOW has President Obama and the Democrats disregarded the Constitution?

 

[WillowTree]

Other American citizens are the ENEMY? Just because their views and opinions differ from yours...

Pretty sad...

Anyone who disregards the Constitution is my enemy. Frankly, I don't give a shit what nationality they claim.

Really? HOW has President Obama and the Democrats disregarded the Constitution?

for starters,, and I know you've heard this one before,, he and they are forcing US citizens to buy a commodity or be "fined" "taxed" if they don't.. and secondly.. they have failed to secure the borders.. that's one of their primary constitutional duties.