Has a Pope ever been de-Poped?

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I really don't know...but is it possible? IMO, this guy damaging the Catholic Church, maybe beyond repair.

The future Pope Benedict XVI resisted pleas to defrock a California priest with a record of sexually molesting children, citing concerns including "the good of the universal church," according to a 1985 letter bearing his signature.
AP EXCLUSIVE: Future pope stalled pedophile case | TPM News Pages
 
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There have been rival popes, for a time the French set up their own popes when they got kicked out of the church.
 
The low point of the Papacy was 867–1049.[33] The Papacy came under the control of vying political factions.[33] Popes were variously imprisoned, starved, killed, and deposed by force.[33] The family of a certain papal official made and unmade popes for fifty years.[33] The official's great-grandson, Pope John XII, held orgies of debauchery in the Lateran palace.[33] Emperor Otto I of Germany had John accused in an ecclesiastical court, which deposed him and elected a layman as Pope Leo VIII.[33] John mutilated the Imperial representatives in Rome and had himself reinstated as Pope.[33] Conflict between the Emperor and the papacy continued, and eventually dukes in league with the emperor were buying bishops and popes almost openly.[33]
Pope - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
The Code of Canon Law 332 §2 states, "If it happens that the Roman Pontiff resigns his office, it is required for validity that the resignation is made freely and properly manifested but not that it is accepted by anyone." This right has been exercised by, among others, Pope Celestine V in 1294 and Pope Gregory XII in 1409, Gregory XII being the last to do so.

-- Same link I posted above
 
The low point of the Papacy was 867–1049.[33] The Papacy came under the control of vying political factions.[33] Popes were variously imprisoned, starved, killed, and deposed by force.[33] The family of a certain papal official made and unmade popes for fifty years.[33] The official's great-grandson, Pope John XII, held orgies of debauchery in the Lateran palace.[33] Emperor Otto I of Germany had John accused in an ecclesiastical court, which deposed him and elected a layman as Pope Leo VIII.[33] John mutilated the Imperial representatives in Rome and had himself reinstated as Pope.[33] Conflict between the Emperor and the papacy continued, and eventually dukes in league with the emperor were buying bishops and popes almost openly.[33]
Pope - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
:lol: This might be a new low point.
 
The low point of the Papacy was 867–1049.[33] The Papacy came under the control of vying political factions.[33] Popes were variously imprisoned, starved, killed, and deposed by force.[33] The family of a certain papal official made and unmade popes for fifty years.[33] The official's great-grandson, Pope John XII, held orgies of debauchery in the Lateran palace.[33] Emperor Otto I of Germany had John accused in an ecclesiastical court, which deposed him and elected a layman as Pope Leo VIII.[33] John mutilated the Imperial representatives in Rome and had himself reinstated as Pope.[33] Conflict between the Emperor and the papacy continued, and eventually dukes in league with the emperor were buying bishops and popes almost openly.[33]
Pope - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
:lol: This might be a new low point.

It might be.

I do have to say, after reading a website that lists all molestations commited by people involved in a christian church. I think that the media needs to start covering some of those, the catholic church is not alone in this sort of thing.
 
I really don't know...but is it possible? IMO, this guy damaging the Catholic Church, maybe beyond repair.

The future Pope Benedict XVI resisted pleas to defrock a California priest with a record of sexually molesting children, citing concerns including "the good of the universal church," according to a 1985 letter bearing his signature.
AP EXCLUSIVE: Future pope stalled pedophile case | TPM News Pages
They usually poison them. Then a few years later they beatify them.
 
The low point of the Papacy was 867–1049.[33] The Papacy came under the control of vying political factions.[33] Popes were variously imprisoned, starved, killed, and deposed by force.[33] The family of a certain papal official made and unmade popes for fifty years.[33] The official's great-grandson, Pope John XII, held orgies of debauchery in the Lateran palace.[33] Emperor Otto I of Germany had John accused in an ecclesiastical court, which deposed him and elected a layman as Pope Leo VIII.[33] John mutilated the Imperial representatives in Rome and had himself reinstated as Pope.[33] Conflict between the Emperor and the papacy continued, and eventually dukes in league with the emperor were buying bishops and popes almost openly.[33]
Pope - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That was back when the Pope had an army, and territory (the Papal States).

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Another low-point was in 1517.
 
I really don't know...but is it possible? IMO, this guy damaging the Catholic Church, maybe beyond repair.

The future Pope Benedict XVI resisted pleas to defrock a California priest with a record of sexually molesting children, citing concerns including "the good of the universal church," according to a 1985 letter bearing his signature.
AP EXCLUSIVE: Future pope stalled pedophile case | TPM News Pages

The Term is Excommunicated you myophic OAF.
 
I really don't know...but is it possible? IMO, this guy damaging the Catholic Church, maybe beyond repair.

The future Pope Benedict XVI resisted pleas to defrock a California priest with a record of sexually molesting children, citing concerns including "the good of the universal church," according to a 1985 letter bearing his signature.
AP EXCLUSIVE: Future pope stalled pedophile case | TPM News Pages

The Term is Excommunicated you myophic OAF.


No, two different things.
 
I really don't know...but is it possible? IMO, this guy damaging the Catholic Church, maybe beyond repair.

The future Pope Benedict XVI resisted pleas to defrock a California priest with a record of sexually molesting children, citing concerns including "the good of the universal church," according to a 1985 letter bearing his signature.
AP EXCLUSIVE: Future pope stalled pedophile case | TPM News Pages

The Term is Excommunicated you myophic OAF.

Wouldn't the term "defrocked" be more appropriate?
 
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I really don't know...but is it possible? IMO, this guy damaging the Catholic Church, maybe beyond repair.

AP EXCLUSIVE: Future pope stalled pedophile case | TPM News Pages

The Term is Excommunicated you myophic OAF.


No, two different things.



Defrocked?



You're Defrocked! Can the pope be fired?


Can the pope face prosecution under secular law? No. The pope is immune from prosecution under the local laws of the Vatican. It's also a principle of customary international law that heads of state enjoy immunity from prosecution. That includes the pope, who is both the head of the church and the head of Vatican City. When three plaintiffs sued the pope in Texas court in 2005 for allegedly helping cover up their molestation by a priest in Houston, the U.S. Justice Department urged the court to dismiss the suit on grounds that the pope enjoys immunity as head of state of the Holy See and that such a lawsuit would be "incompatible with the United States' foreign policy interests." It's possible that once a head of state leaves office, he can become liable for crimes committed before he took office, since sovereign immunity applies to leaders only while they're head of state or to acts performed as a head of state. However, the pope almost never retires, so he's unlikely ever to face prosecution.
Can the pope be fired? - By Christopher Beam - Slate Magazine
 
Interestingly enough, the UK is trying to get around those immunity laws so the Pope will have to testify over all the child molestation stuff. Doubt it will happen however.
 
The Term is Excommunicated you myophic OAF.


No, two different things.



Defrocked?



You're Defrocked! Can the pope be fired?


Can the pope face prosecution under secular law? No. The pope is immune from prosecution under the local laws of the Vatican. It's also a principle of customary international law that heads of state enjoy immunity from prosecution. That includes the pope, who is both the head of the church and the head of Vatican City. When three plaintiffs sued the pope in Texas court in 2005 for allegedly helping cover up their molestation by a priest in Houston, the U.S. Justice Department urged the court to dismiss the suit on grounds that the pope enjoys immunity as head of state of the Holy See and that such a lawsuit would be "incompatible with the United States' foreign policy interests." It's possible that once a head of state leaves office, he can become liable for crimes committed before he took office, since sovereign immunity applies to leaders only while they're head of state or to acts performed as a head of state. However, the pope almost never retires, so he's unlikely ever to face prosecution.
Can the pope be fired? - By Christopher Beam - Slate Magazine


Yeah, defrocked. But not even really that. The only way he can be de-poped is to resign willingly.
 
The Term is Excommunicated you myophic OAF.


No, two different things.



Defrocked?



You're Defrocked! Can the pope be fired?


Can the pope face prosecution under secular law? No. The pope is immune from prosecution under the local laws of the Vatican. It's also a principle of customary international law that heads of state enjoy immunity from prosecution. That includes the pope, who is both the head of the church and the head of Vatican City. When three plaintiffs sued the pope in Texas court in 2005 for allegedly helping cover up their molestation by a priest in Houston, the U.S. Justice Department urged the court to dismiss the suit on grounds that the pope enjoys immunity as head of state of the Holy See and that such a lawsuit would be "incompatible with the United States' foreign policy interests." It's possible that once a head of state leaves office, he can become liable for crimes committed before he took office, since sovereign immunity applies to leaders only while they're head of state or to acts performed as a head of state. However, the pope almost never retires, so he's unlikely ever to face prosecution.
Can the pope be fired? - By Christopher Beam - Slate Magazine


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If more evidence turns up against Pope Benedict, can the church fire him?

No. The Code of Canon Law has no provision that allows a pope's removal from office— for any reason, even poor health or psychological trauma. That's because, according to church law, there is no higher authority than the pope: He "possesses supreme, full, immediate, and universal ordinary power in the Church, which he is always able to exercise freely." A pope may resign, but his resignation must be "made freely," and he doesn't have to tender his resignation to any particular authority. (The last pope to resign was Gregory XII, who did so in 1415 to end the battle for the papacy known as the Western schism.)
 
I really don't know...but is it possible? IMO, this guy damaging the Catholic Church, maybe beyond repair.

The future Pope Benedict XVI resisted pleas to defrock a California priest with a record of sexually molesting children, citing concerns including "the good of the universal church," according to a 1985 letter bearing his signature.
AP EXCLUSIVE: Future pope stalled pedophile case | TPM News Pages

The Term is Excommunicated you myophic OAF.
No.
 

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