Happy "Claim MLK As A Conservative Republican" Day!!!

[citygator]

Meh. Does this sound like a conservative?

“We have also come to this hallowed spot to remind America of the fierce urgency of Now. This is no time to engage in the luxury of cooling off or to take the tranquilizing drug of gradualism. Now is the time to make real the promises of democracy. Now is the time to rise from the dark and desolate valley of segregation to the sunlit path of racial justice. Now is the time to lift our nation from the quicksands of racial injustice to the solid rock of brotherhood. Now is the time to make justice a reality for all of God's children.

It would be fatal for the nation to overlook the urgency of the moment. This sweltering summer of the Negro's legitimate discontent will not pass until there is an invigorating autumn of freedom and equality. Nineteen sixty-three is not an end, but a beginning. And those who hope that the Negro needed to blow off steam and will now be content will have a rude awakening if the nation returns to business as usual. And there will be neither rest nor tranquility in America until the Negro is granted his citizenship rights. The whirlwinds of revolt will continue to shake the foundations of our nation until the bright day of justice emerges.“

 

[bodecea]

MLK Day 2021: Martin Luther King quotes, inspiration honoring slain civil rights leader

Inspirational quotes and photos honoring Martin Luther King Jr.

www.al.com

"Americans are honoring the memory of slain civil rights leader Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. today. MLK Day is a federal holiday, though it was not made official until 18 years after his assassination."
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MLK pictured above with well known conservative Republicans: John Lewis, Ralph Abernathy, and Ralph Bunche. In fact, most of the time you see MLK putting his life on the line, marching thru-out the Jim Crow south -- he is always accompanied by famous longtime conservatives like James Baldwin, Harry Belafonte, Rabbi Israel Dresner, Viola Luizzo, Bayard Rustin, you know -- all of the household names among Conservatism...

In other words, today is that time of year again when most Conservatives all over the country' twist themselves into pretzels to try to pretend that their side of the political spectrum were not, have not and continue to be against every emancipation effort made by virtually every historically oppressed minority group in this country......Enjoy

You know it was his father that was the Republican, right?

 

[TheParser]

MLK Day 2021: Martin Luther King quotes, inspiration honoring slain civil rights leader

Inspirational quotes and photos honoring Martin Luther King Jr.

www.al.com

"Americans are honoring the memory of slain civil rights leader Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. today. MLK Day is a federal holiday, though it was not made official until 18 years after his assassination."
View attachment 444658

MLK pictured above with well known conservative Republicans: John Lewis, Ralph Abernathy, and Ralph Bunche. In fact, most of the time you see MLK putting his life on the line, marching thru-out the Jim Crow south -- he is always accompanied by famous longtime conservatives like James Baldwin, Harry Belafonte, Rabbi Israel Dresner, Viola Luizzo, Bayard Rustin, you know -- all of the household names among Conservatism...

In other words, today is that time of year again when most Conservatives all over the country' twist themselves into pretzels to try to pretend that their side of the political spectrum were not, have not and continue to be against every emancipation effort made by virtually every historically oppressed minority group in this country......Enjoy

I agree that conservatives/Republicans today should NOT claim to have been fans of those gentlemen in that interesting photo.

I think that conservatives/Republicans today should just say the usual nice things about Dr. King and then leave it there. No need to gild the lily.

I do think, however, that conservatives/Republicans always held up Dr. Bunche as an example of what can be accomplished by certain folks if they get a good education and work hard.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

MLK Day 2021: Martin Luther King quotes, inspiration honoring slain civil rights leader

Inspirational quotes and photos honoring Martin Luther King Jr.

www.al.com

"Americans are honoring the memory of slain civil rights leader Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. today. MLK Day is a federal holiday, though it was not made official until 18 years after his assassination."
View attachment 444658

MLK pictured above with well known conservative Republicans: John Lewis, Ralph Abernathy, and Ralph Bunche. In fact, most of the time you see MLK putting his life on the line, marching thru-out the Jim Crow south -- he is always accompanied by famous longtime conservatives like James Baldwin, Harry Belafonte, Rabbi Israel Dresner, Viola Luizzo, Bayard Rustin, you know -- all of the household names among Conservatism...

In other words, today is that time of year again when most Conservatives all over the country' twist themselves into pretzels to try to pretend that their side of the political spectrum were not, have not and continue to be against every emancipation effort made by virtually every historically oppressed minority group in this country......Enjoy

You know it was his father that was the Republican, right?

Yes I know -- but I am not the one trying to claim MLK, Jr is a republican

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

MLK Day 2021: Martin Luther King quotes, inspiration honoring slain civil rights leader

Inspirational quotes and photos honoring Martin Luther King Jr.

www.al.com

"Americans are honoring the memory of slain civil rights leader Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. today. MLK Day is a federal holiday, though it was not made official until 18 years after his assassination."
View attachment 444658

MLK pictured above with well known conservative Republicans: John Lewis, Ralph Abernathy, and Ralph Bunche. In fact, most of the time you see MLK putting his life on the line, marching thru-out the Jim Crow south -- he is always accompanied by famous longtime conservatives like James Baldwin, Harry Belafonte, Rabbi Israel Dresner, Viola Luizzo, Bayard Rustin, you know -- all of the household names among Conservatism...

In other words, today is that time of year again when most Conservatives all over the country' twist themselves into pretzels to try to pretend that their side of the political spectrum were not, have not and continue to be against every emancipation effort made by virtually every historically oppressed minority group in this country......Enjoy

I agree that conservatives/Republicans today should NOT claim to have been fans of those gentlemen in that interesting photo.

I think that conservatives/Republicans today should just say the usual nice things about Dr. King and then leave it there. No need to gild the lily.

I do think, however, that conservatives always held up Dr. Bunche as an example of what can be accomplished by certain folks if they get a good education and work hard.

That is called platitude talk -- that isn't some uniquely conservative position....

What does seem to be uniquely conservative is the desire to castigate someone's educational accomplishments as being "elitist" while they themselves celebrate intellectual rot..

What does seem to be uniquely conservative is their all out assault on education in general....

 

[lg325]

I will add this .I do not believe he was a Marxist. I do remember as a child on the news how he removed a Marxist from his staff. Advocating society help those that are poor and do not have a voice , is not socialism, its a duty given to us by God. The man was a Baptist preacher following beliefs.

 

[22lcidw]

MLK would be ashamed of people like you, Asclepias and IM2.

No he wouldn't, he would love strong black men like the 2 you named.

He would be disgusted at what he would see in the inner cities. Its tragic and expensive.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

I will add this .I do not believe he was a Marxist. I do remember as a child on the news how he removed a Marxist from his staff. Advocating society help those that are poor and do not have a voice , is not socialism, its a duty given to us by God. The man was a Baptist preacher following beliefs.

He was called a communist because that is what fragile minded conservatives call anything that advocates for racial, labor and economic solidarity in opposition to the oligarchy...

hell, they even called interracial marriage communism at one point....some still do....

 

[bodecea]

One dead commie and the country gets a day off work.

What's not to like?

So, you disagree with the OP, eh?

 

[bodecea]

He didn't appear to support either party when he was alive. I'm not sure why the hell he would support either party now.

I can’t see MLK supporting the policies and speech of today’s Republicans

Nor them supporting him.

 

[JGalt]

One dead commie and the country gets a day off work.

What's not to like?

So, you disagree with the OP, eh?

Am I twisting myself into a pretzel to try to pretend that my side of the political spectrum was not, did not and should continue to be against every emancipation effort made by virtually every historically oppressed minority group in this country?

Nope and nope. I have to work today, regardless of the fact that some Marxist got shot 53 years ago. But go ahead and enjoy your dead commie day, don't let me interrupt you.

 

[Papageorgio]

Politics has vastly changed over the last 70 years, many blacks in the 50's viewed Democrats as segregationists, so it is doubtful King was a registered Democrat back then. In 1964 King voted for LBJ. His party affiliation is pretty much unknown but I would venture to guess he probably jumped from one party to another in local elections depending on the candidate. King was known for being an activist and a leader for his Civil Rights cause and aligned himself with any who would join or fight for his cause.

 

[rightwinger]

He didn't appear to support either party when he was alive. I'm not sure why the hell he would support either party now.

I can’t see MLK supporting the policies and speech of today’s Republicans

Nor them supporting him.

They would still call him a Commie and an agitator

 

[rightwinger]

Politics has vastly changed over the last 70 years, many blacks in the 50's viewed Democrats as segregationists, so it is doubtful King was a registered Democrat back then. In 1964 King voted for LBJ. His party affiliation is pretty much unknown but I would venture to guess he probably jumped from one party to another in local elections depending on the candidate. King was known for being an activist and a leader for his Civil Rights cause and aligned himself with any who would join or fight for his cause.

Political Parties were different back then. There were Conservative Democrats and Liberal Republicans

 

[Meister]

He didn't appear to support either party when he was alive. I'm not sure why the hell he would support either party now.

I can’t see MLK supporting the policies and speech of today’s Republicans

Or, democrats...he had no party affiliation

 

[Superbadbrutha]

MLK would be ashamed of people like you, Asclepias and IM2.

No he wouldn't, he would love strong black men like the 2 you named.

He would be disgusted at what he would see in the inner cities. Its tragic and expensive.

Of course he would be, he was disgusted when he saw what was happening in the inner cities when he was alive. Now tell us something we don't already know.

 

[Disir]

MLK was assassinated over 50 years ago. He has been dead for over 50 years. In fact, you don't get much more dead than Martin Luther King. There have always been some people on the sidelines who have not been happy with MLK. He didn't even make it to see age 40.

This man would have called out whatever party that was in power making decisions because he was very much pro people. He didn't appear to support either party when he was alive. I'm not sure why the hell he would support either party now.

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I can almost guarantee that the same people triggered by MLK's statement back then are still triggered by it now.....

Now tell me; which party more closely aligns with the policies MLK fought for 50 years ago?

Labor Rights.....
Expanding Voting Rights protections instead of suppressing them
Reforming Capitalism with Targeted Socialist policies aimed at the least powerful and most disenfranchised??

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There is a reason Conservatives ALWAYS AVOID talking about POLICIES when it comes to this topic......because then they would have to admit that when it came to policies; it is crystal clear who MLK has ALWAYS been in more alignment with......

Which is why conservatives back then said the same shit about MLK and the policies he advocated for that they say about anyone who advocates for those same policies now...
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MLK did not believe in identity politics. Never did. This is something the Black Power movement was one hundred percent for that he did not agree with. Don't get me wrong. He completely understood why it was happening. He felt more could be accomplished as a whole. He also did not believe in the threat of violence and level of aggression towards the white majority simply because they stop processing information and are operating out of fear. Clearly that's paraphrased. He acknowledged that there was violence within the community. That's worth mentioning because of the arguments that are made today as an either/or issue and it's unnecessary. He understood then that it was an issue that needed to be dealt with and if you have to take something from the larger society does it have to be that? He stated that leadership is not going out and finding consensus. It's building it.


He would have wanted groups in both camps. I think that he would have looked at the Democratic Party and said it was simply paying lip service. Would he have supported the Democratic Party policy on health care? No. Specifically the ACA. The ACA was about insurance---not health care. He would have been against having to pay upfront in a hospital to receive care and a higher deductible. However, he more than likely would have pushed for the vaccine to be in African American communities in terms of both availability and participation.

In terms of education and the Democratic Party: No. He would not support the reliance on high stake testing and the types of testing used to get into college. I see no reason for him to support the charter schools especially with exclusion of disabilities, kicked out of school, etc. and so on.

In terms of "labor" and the Democratic Party---nope. Lip service here as well. Further, he might have lambasted a whole lot of Democrats for supporting the destruction of the USPS because it was a middle class job that created social mobility for many African Americans. Nor would he have supported H1B Visas and nonstop immigration. Hell, he would not have supported the neo-liberal policies that helped create the nonstop flow. He discussed many things but the one people like to talk about the most is the basic income. However, they neglect to discuss his other option which was full employment.

In terms of voting, he would probably have supported using an ID and especially by the time of 2020 for sure. I also think he might advocate for a national holiday so that people had time to vote. I suspect that he would raise hell if he knew that people were standing in line for some 8 hours to get the job done. I am not sure how he would feel about mail in ballots. If it was a simple matter of just accessibility then yes he would. He supported voting for people that were worth it. I do not believe that he would have liked Biden or Harris and that is based on their track record. I firmly believe that at this juncture in the US he would be disgusted.

 

[Disir]

I will add this .I do not believe he was a Marxist. I do remember as a child on the news how he removed a Marxist from his staff. Advocating society help those that are poor and do not have a voice , is not socialism, its a duty given to us by God. The man was a Baptist preacher following beliefs.

I agree. He wasn't a Marxist. He very much felt that racism and inequality opened the door to communism.