Greta Von Death Metal, killer climate song.

[JoeB131]

Guess you are blissfully ignorant of the sheer amount of criminality that happens within labor unions....the irony literally drips from the fact that you support them...

Or I don't care. Laws are there for the rich, not the rest of us. The ironic thing is that unions have declined because they made the law fairer for the rest of us.

If you have ever looked into the amount of criminality that happens within labor unions, it is more than clear that they will f*ck you over in a heart beat...the only difference between them and the capitalists that you are so envious of is that you actually pay the union thugs to f*ck you over...how stupid is that?

Again. My dad paid his dues... He got a good paycheck, really good health care, was able to raise five kids in a middle class lifestyle and when he got sick at the end of his life, he was able to provide for his widow and kids.

MEANWHILE- in the wonderful "I'm so glad I don't have to deal with a union" environment, after six years of busting my ass for the Jews in Houston, someone looked at a chart and said, "Employee 45388 and 44213 ran up too many medical bills, make sure they get downsized first."

Sorry, man I'll take option A, any day of the week.

And what do you call it when your union representatives steal from the membership...which is rampant among unions...what do you call that exactly?

Cost of doing business...

 

[Unkotare]

When the poor steal, it's called "Crime".
When the rich steal, it's called "Profits".

There may be some opportunities for you in North Korea that you should go look into. You might be happier there.

 

[SSDD]

When the poor steal, it's called "Crime".
When the rich steal, it's called "Profits".

There may be some opportunities for you in North Korea that you should go look into. You might be happier there.

They have exactly the sort of government he wishes for...makes you wonder why there aren't long lines of liberals waiting to get into such nations....

 

[SSDD]

And what do you call it when your union representatives steal from the membership...which is rampant among unions...what do you call that exactly?

Cost of doing business...

You really are a nut...aren't you? Stealing from dues paying union members is the cost of doing business in your mind? I can only shake my head at your absurdity...

 

[JoeB131]

There may be some opportunities for you in North Korea that you should go look into. You might be happier there.

Why, we are going to fix this country once we get the dumb-ass rednecks out of the way.

They'll thank us later.

You really are a nut...aren't you? Stealing from dues paying union members is the cost of doing business in your mind? I can only shake my head at your absurdity...

Well, you haven't demonstrated that at all, really. IN fact, most union guys will tell you that they are very happy for what they get for their dues..

 

[JoeB131]

They have exactly the sort of government he wishes for...makes you wonder why there aren't long lines of liberals waiting to get into such nations....

What I find hilarious is that you seem to think those are the only two choices on the menu.

The fact you and Dripping Poop (the literal translation of his screen name) need to invoke North Korea to make America look better says an awful lot.

It means you can't defend America vs. a social democracy like Canada, the UK or Germany, for instance.

 

[SSDD]

They have exactly the sort of government he wishes for...makes you wonder why there aren't long lines of liberals waiting to get into such nations....

What I find hilarious is that you seem to think those are the only two choices on the menu.

The fact you and Dripping Poop (the literal translation of his screen name) need to invoke North Korea to make America look better says an awful lot.

It means you can't defend America vs. a social democracy like Canada, the UK or Germany, for instance.

Modern liberalism is inherently authoritarian...it is required as it is the only way to enforce its principles... Since you are a shallow thinker, you can't be blamed for not having a clue...most people who support socialism have no idea what it is like in practice... You should at least be bright enough to look and see the waiting lines to get into this country vs the waiting lines to get into socialist countries....but alas, you aren't even that smart..

 

[JoeB131]

Modern liberalism is inherently authoritarian...it is required as it is the only way to enforce its principles... Since you are a shallow thinker, you can't be blamed for not having a clue...most people who support socialism have no idea what it is like in practice... You should at least be bright enough to look and see the waiting lines to get into this country vs the waiting lines to get into socialist countries....but alas, you aren't even that smart..

Except they aren't coming from Socialist countries... the biggest source of people trying to get into this country is Mexico, which is the kind of Plutocracy you guys want to see.. with just the very rich and the very poor.

Again, why do you avoid social democracies like most of Western Europe, where they have socialized medicine, entitlements, unions, gun control and no one really tries to come here from there...

 

[SSDD]

Modern liberalism is inherently authoritarian...it is required as it is the only way to enforce its principles... Since you are a shallow thinker, you can't be blamed for not having a clue...most people who support socialism have no idea what it is like in practice... You should at least be bright enough to look and see the waiting lines to get into this country vs the waiting lines to get into socialist countries....but alas, you aren't even that smart..

Except they aren't coming from Socialist countries... the biggest source of people trying to get into this country is Mexico, which is the kind of Plutocracy you guys want to see.. with just the very rich and the very poor.

Check again...there is an ongoing exodus from socialist countries to the US...

Again, why do you avoid social democracies like most of Western Europe, where they have socialized medicine, entitlements, unions, gun control and no one really tries to come here from there...

Because democracy is almost as bad as socialism..democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner....almost but not quite as bad a socialism in which the wolves are the shepherds...

 

[JoeB131]

Check again...there is an ongoing exodus from socialist countries to the US...

Um, yeah, Really?

Link?

Also, how do you define socialist? Because like when we discuss China, when I point out that they are kicking our asses economically, you credit capitalism, but when you want to point out how they are an awful place to live... you call them socialist.

 

[JoeB131]

Because democracy is almost as bad as socialism..democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner....almost but not quite as bad a socialism in which the wolves are the shepherds...

Maybe the fucking sheep has it coming! Because whenever you guys talk about the sheep, it's code for "The rich can't be obscenely rich at the wolf's expense."

 

[Unkotare]

There may be some opportunities for you in North Korea that you should go look into. You might be happier there.

Why, we are going to fix this country once we get the dumb-ass rednecks out of the way.

They'll thank us later.

....

Who is “we”?

 

[impuretrash]

There may be some opportunities for you in North Korea that you should go look into. You might be happier there.

Why, we are going to fix this country once we get the dumb-ass rednecks out of the way.

They'll thank us later.

....

Who is “we”?

Muh minorities

 

[SSDD]

Because democracy is almost as bad as socialism..democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner....almost but not quite as bad a socialism in which the wolves are the shepherds...

Maybe the fucking sheep has it coming! Because whenever you guys talk about the sheep, it's code for "The rich can't be obscenely rich at the wolf's expense."

Are you on some sort of medication? If not...you should be. Tell me, do you have any idea how much money union bosses have embezzled from the workers they are supposed to represent over the past 50 years or so? Any idea at all?

 

[JoeB131]

Are you on some sort of medication? If not...you should be. Tell me, do you have any idea how much money union bosses have embezzled from the workers they are supposed to represent over the past 50 years or so? Any idea at all?

Again, don't really care.

What I do know. We have a middle class because of unions...

Period.

I know that the guys whose balls you like to lick think that's horrible... but most of us think it's pretty cool.

 

[SSDD]

Are you on some sort of medication? If not...you should be. Tell me, do you have any idea how much money union bosses have embezzled from the workers they are supposed to represent over the past 50 years or so? Any idea at all?

Again, don't really care.

What I do know. We have a middle class because of unions...

Period.

I know that the guys whose balls you like to lick think that's horrible... but most of us think it's pretty cool.

Of course you don't...becasue you are unable to think...in your bizarro universe, it is fine for people to steal directly from you and become rich so long as they tell you that they are getting you a better deal...

 

[JoeB131]

Of course you don't...becasue you are unable to think...in your bizarro universe, it is fine for people to steal directly from you and become rich so long as they tell you that they are getting you a better deal...

Well, no, I know they are getting a better deal... that's the point.

We should all have unions...

OOOOOOOHHHHH NOES, Working people getting a fair salary! And having protections from bad managers! The Horror. The horror of it all.

And a government that keeps big businesses from destroying the environment! That's awful.

Next they'll pass a law that you can't like the balls of the rich, and then where will you be.

Ball-Lickers Unions Local 402.

 

[SSDD]

Of course you don't...becasue you are unable to think...in your bizarro universe, it is fine for people to steal directly from you and become rich so long as they tell you that they are getting you a better deal...

Well, no, I know they are getting a better deal... that's the point.

The rust belt would argue with you...is it a better deal to drive your job overseas because your wages make you uncompetitive?

And your notion that you can't get a fair salary unless you belong to a union is just plain stupid...I have never paid a penny in union dues and have always found myself solidly in the upper middle class since my first job out of college..

 

[JoeB131]

The rust belt would argue with you...is it a better deal to drive your job overseas because your wages make you uncompetitive?

Again, we've been over this. The Rust Belt is the Rust belt because of the bad decisions made in the corner offices. They LOST to Germany and Japan, countries that have stronger unions than we do, and as a result, made a much better product.

And your notion that you can't get a fair salary unless you belong to a union is just plain stupid...I have never paid a penny in union dues and have always found myself solidly in the upper middle class since my first job out of college..

Sure you have, buddy... sure you have.

Even if that were true (which I doubt), the fact is that the union raises all prices, even for non-union jobs, because they have to be competitive.

Union membership never exceeded 33%. But since industry has to compete for workers, they've had to match pay and benefits.

Or do you think that it's just a co-incidence that as unions has declined, so has the Middle Class?

 

[SSDD]

The rust belt would argue with you...is it a better deal to drive your job overseas because your wages make you uncompetitive?

Again, we've been over this. The Rust Belt is the Rust belt because of the bad decisions made in the corner offices. They LOST to Germany and Japan, countries that have stronger unions than we do, and as a result, made a much better product.

We heard your twisted, distorted version of what happened....the quality of our products dropped because you can't overpay labor and still produce a high quality product and remain competitive.

Sure you have, buddy... sure you have.

Luckily, your belief isn't a requisite for being true.....you have already demonstrated that you will believe all manner of dishonesty so long as you think it is good for you..you believe it is fine for union leaders to steal billions out of union dues, and union retirement funds and is just the cost of doing business...it would not be possible for you to better demonstrate the flaws in your thinking that making those proclamations..

And by the way doofus...the middle class has declined with declining manufacturing in this country....and manufacturing has declined because unions have made it impossible to compete in a global market.