Gray Lives Matter

[The Sage of Main Street]

Democrats don't care about history . They want to erase and rewrite it. They are the traitors to America and Americans.

Snob Blob

Between the lines, their elitist academic historians subtitle all Postmodern books on American History THOSE HORRIBLE WHITE PEOPLE.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

You’re an example of the stupidity that needs to be addressed.
The southern states did not proactively attack the feds. They seceded. The north then fought to reclaim the south.

Snowflake Stormtroopers?

Would the Blue States fight to stop the Red States from seceding now?

 

[Confederate Soldier]

Lee's men would follow him into the gates of Hell to whip the devil into submission without fear. Lee is my hero, no matter what anyone says.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

You’re an example of the stupidity that needs to be addressed.
The southern states did not proactively attack the feds. They seceded. The north then fought to reclaim the south.

How did the war start?

 

[Superbadbrutha]

What would you call someone who rises in armed rebellion against Britain?

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Fun fact: For those who slept through History class, the above picture is of George Washington, leader of the Continental Army from 1775 to 1783. He was also the first President of the United States from 1789 to 1797.

Kind of hard to accuse someone of treason and they just kicked your ass.

 

[fncceo]

Kind of hard to accuse someone of treason and they just kicked your ass.

To quote Jim Garrison, who was quoting John Stormer...

"Treason doth never prosper. What's the reason? Why if it prosper, none dare call it treason."

If The South had been successful in their attempt to secede, something tells me that the two resulting nations would have become fast friends, and even reconciled by now.

But, they didn't.

 

[g5000]

What would you call someone who rises in armed rebellion against Britain?

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Fun fact: For those who slept through History class, the above picture is of George Washington, leader of the Continental Army from 1775 to 1783. He was also the first President of the United States from 1789 to 1797.

George Washington was a traitor to Great Britain, not to America.

And he knew he was betraying the king. He didn't try to claim he was just leaving the cocktail party.

 

[g5000]

An eviction. Certain unwelcomed guests refused to leave the party they were no longer invited to.

It was an armed attack on the US government and you know it.

Don't be such an obtuse ass.

 

[g5000]

Democrats don't care about history . They want to erase and rewrite it.

He says in a topic trying to claim Lee was not a traitor.

 

[g5000]

If The South had been successful in their attempt to secede, something tells me that the two resulting nations would have become fast friends, and even reconciled by now.

Just as the USA and the UK are fast friends now.

But that didn't happen. The South got their asses whipped, and some of their descendants still refuse to accept it.

 

[initforme]

I don't understand how any person could accept slavery. Too lazy to do a tiny bit of work themselves I guess.

 

[g5000]

I don't understand how any person could accept slavery. Too lazy to do a tiny bit of work themselves I guess.

A bit of a long read, but this is beautiful:

The Project Gutenberg eBook of Democracy in America, Part I. by Alexis de Tocqueville

Time, however, continued to advance, and the Anglo-Americans, spreading beyond the coasts of the Atlantic Ocean, penetrated farther and farther into the solitudes of the West; they met with a new soil and an unwonted climate; the obstacles which opposed them were of the most various character; their races intermingled, the inhabitants of the South went up towards the North, those of the North descended to the South; but in the midst of all these causes, the same result occurred at every step, and in general, the colonies in which there were no slaves became more populous and more rich than those in which slavery flourished. The more progress was made, the more was it shown that slavery, which is so cruel to the slave, is prejudicial to the master.

But this truth was most satisfactorily demonstrated when civilization reached the banks of the Ohio. The stream which the Indians had distinguished by the name of Ohio, or Beautiful River, waters one of the most magnificent valleys that has ever been made the abode of man. Undulating lands extend upon both shores of the OUpon the left bank of the Ohio labor is confounded with the idea of slavery, upon the right bank it is identified with that of prosperity and improvement; on the one side it is degraded, on the other it is honored; on the former territory no white laborers can be found, for they would be afraid of assimilating themselves to the negroes; on the latter no one is idle, for the white population extends its activity and its intelligence to every kind of employment. Thus the men whose task it is to cultivate the rich soil of Kentucky are ignorant and lukewarm; whilst those who are active and enlightened either do nothing or pass over into the State of Ohio, where they may work without dishonor.

hio, whose soil affords inexhaustible treasures to the laborer; on either bank the air is wholesome and the climate mild, and each of them forms the extreme frontier of a vast State: That which follows the numerous windings of the Ohio upon the left is called Kentucky, that upon the right bears the name of the river. These two States only differ in a single respect; Kentucky has admitted slavery, but the State of Ohio has prohibited the existence of slaves within its borders.

The State of Kentucky was founded in 1775, the State of Ohio only twelve years later; but twelve years are more in America than half a century in Europe, and, at the present day, the population of Ohio exceeds that of Kentucky by two hundred and fifty thousand souls. *j These opposite consequences of slavery and freedom may readily be understood, and they suffice to explain many of the differences which we remark between the civilization of antiquity and that of our own time.

Thus the traveller who floats down the current of the Ohio to the spot where that river falls into the Mississippi, may be said to sail between liberty and servitude; and a transient inspection of the surrounding objects will convince him as to which of the two is most favorable to mankind. Upon the left bank of the stream the population is rare; from time to time one descries a troop of slaves loitering in the half-desert fields; the primaeval forest recurs at every turn; society seems to be asleep, man to be idle, and nature alone offers a scene of activity and of life. From the right bank, on the contrary, a confused hum is heard which proclaims the presence of industry; the fields are covered with abundant harvests, the elegance of the dwellings announces the taste and activity of the laborer, and man appears to be in the enjoyment of that wealth and contentment which is the reward of labor.



The influence of slavery extends still further; it affects the character of the master, and imparts a peculiar tendency to his ideas and his tastes. Upon both banks of the Ohio, the character of the inhabitants is enterprising and energetic; but this vigor is very differently exercised in the two States. The white inhabitant of Ohio, who is obliged to subsist by his own exertions, regards temporal prosperity as the principal aim of his existence; and as the country which he occupies presents inexhaustible resources to his industry and ever-varying lures to his activity, his acquisitive ardor surpasses the ordinary limits of human cupidity: he is tormented by the desire of wealth, and he boldly enters upon every path which fortune opens to him; he becomes a sailor, a pioneer, an artisan, or a laborer with the same indifference, and he supports, with equal constancy, the fatigues and the dangers incidental to these various professions; the resources of his intelligence are astonishing, and his avidity in the pursuit of gain amounts to a species of heroism.

But the Kentuckian scorns not only labor, but all the undertakings which labor promotes; as he lives in an idle independence, his tastes are those of an idle man; money loses a portion of its value in his eyes; he covets wealth much less than pleasure and excitement; and the energy which his neighbor devotes to gain, turns with him to a passionate love of field sports and military exercises; he delights in violent bodily exertion, he is familiar with the use of arms, and is accustomed from a very early age to expose his life in single combat. Thus slavery not only prevents the whites from becoming opulent, but even from desiring to become so.

You still see this lazy attitude among Southerners to this day when they refer to certain types of labor as "n*gger work".

 

[initforme]

If one wants labor pay a hefty price for it. Cheap labor is an awful idea.

 

[g5000]

If one wants labor pay a hefty price for it. Cheap labor is an awful idea.

It's the way of the world. Labor is paid what the market will bear. If a Bangladeshi will sew T-shirts for a dollar a day, why would you pay an American labor union employee $20 an hour to do the same low-skilled job?

 

[initforme]

Then I would hope the company leaves our shores. I'd cheer. Buh bye.

 

[initforme]

Perhaps we need no laborers.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

It was an armed attack on the US government and you know it.

Don't be such an obtuse ass.

Wrong. Public school is a bitch.

 

[g5000]

Then I would hope the company leaves our shores. I'd cheer. Buh bye.

Well, there is an evolutionary process for every country which achieves prosperity, and it appears there is no shortcut.

The first stage is exploitation of laborers. Paying them a dollar a day because there are people standing in line for the jobs, which makes them all disposable as toilet paper.

If we are to maintain our edge and our prosperity, it is extremely important we train our kids for the jobs of tomorrow, not the jobs of their fathers.

 

[g5000]

Wrong. Public school is a bitch.

You must be one of those people who bleev the war wasn't about slavery.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

You must be one of those people who bleev the war wasn't about slavery.

Slavery was an issue and was made illegal a year and a half into the war.
Federal tariffs on the south actually exacerbated slavery as a necessary cost-cutting measure.
Slavery would have been obsolete within 20 years anyway.