Getting’ Wiser About FISA

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1.Remember Edward Snowden? Obama responded to Snowden’s stunning revelations of the National Security Agency’s vacuuming up millions of Americans’ personal data by going on the Jay Leno Show and proclaiming:

There is no spying on Americans.

How quickly NY Times forgets Obama's lies and frauds


What a lying sack of offal, huh?





2.We’re supposed to believe that, as Hussein lied, Americans are never spied on….
…but, if they are, it’s only after a special kind of warrant, called a FISA, is obtained.

“the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court -- or FISA Court. The court is actually a tribunal whose actions are carried out in secret. The tribunal has the authority to grant warrants for electronic surveillance.” What is a FISA warrant?




3.Spying on one’s political adversaries is both a sign of those third world regimes, and central to the Mueller farrago. It is unAmerican, and the textbook definition of corruption…..but it sure is helpful if you lose a presidential election, huh?

4. Let’s review….Democrats, the only folks for whom there is actual evidence of collusion, conspiracy and similarity of aims, with the Kremlin, purchased a fabricated ‘dossier’ from the Russians, aimed at sinking a Trump aim at the presidency.

Who paid the Ruskies for the slanderous document? Hillary, et al. There’s no disputing that, and no denying its purpose.

Then, her comrades on this side of the ocean, the bosses in the FBI and the DoJ, used it to get FISA warrants to surveil, spy on, wiretape, the whole nine yards, their adversaries.


Some might even call the ‘dossier,’ surveillance, and spying….”an insurance policy” against losing. And some did call it just that.....folks in the FBI no less.





5. Whether one believes the FISA warrants legit or not…..there is no disputing that they never told the FISA judges that the Democrats paid for and authorized the ‘dosssier.’
 
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Brennan, Clapper, Rosenstein, Comey, McCabe, Strzok ..... All used the Russian-authored Dossier, creating Intel Community Assessments and Intel Community Reports - that are supposed to be created from legitimate Intel - and knowingly, intentionally passed them off to Congress and the FISA Court as just that - legitimate Intel.

They did so successfully to deceive Congress into opening up the witch hunt, placing co-conspirator Mueller as its head political assassin, and to illegally acquire warrants to conduct their own 'Watergate' / soft coup against Trump.
 
Was that “dossier” really that important to the anti-Trump campaign?

You betcha’ it was!!!!



6. "The Department of Justice used the unverified dossier to obtain a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrant against Carter Page, an alleged "foreign policy adviser" to Donald Trump and the last frayed thread of the Russian collusion story. The FISA court was not told who had paid Steele to create the "salacious and unverified" dossier -- in the words of the showboating former FBI Director James Comey -- much less about Steele's personal hatred of Trump."
Carter Page: Agent 000


7. BAIER: Democrats are criticizing a lot, as you can imagine. I’m sure you’ve heard. But they’re jumping on one particular part of the memo in particular. Number four, the memo states that then-deputy director of the FBI, Andrew McCabe, quote, testified before the committee in December 2017 that no surveillance warrant would have been sought from the FISA court without the Steele dossier information? Democrats say he never said that, did he?

NUNES: Yes. I mean, it’s a summation of a long interview. And that is definitely what he said. Not to mention, we have other witnesses who said very similar things. So, the fact of the matter is, the main things that were used to go out and get this warrant was the dossier and the story that corroborated the dossier.
Nunes on Memo: This Is About FBI Using Oppo Research To Get FISA Warrant On Trump Campaign





8. Even when the story blew up:

"FBI Director James Comey has been caught going around to secret Congressional briefings in “recent weeks” touting the lurid fake “Trump dossier.” He has been claiming that it is a major foundation of the FBI’s investigation of purported Russian collusion with Trump to interfere in the election—months after theFBI had already assessed the “dossier” as non-credible."
The Final Truth about the “Trump Dossier”



"...a major foundation of the FBI’s investigation of purported Russian collusion with Trump...."
Even when he already knew it was "non-credible
Non-credible....



There is a 'win at any cost' corruption that runs through the 'reliable Democrat voter' mentality.
 
9. “…the Department of Justice released copies of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) applications used to obtain a secret court order to conduct electronic surveillance on former Trump campaign advisor Carter Page.

The documents also provide additional evidence that the Obama administration’s Department of Justice and career DOJ, Federal Bureau of Investigation, and State Department employees misused the FISA court system to spy on the Trump campaign.



… it now appears that the Obama administration’s State Department bore equal responsibility for presenting the FISA court unverified hearsay to justify spying on the Trump campaign.



In charging the DOJ and FBI with abusing the FISA system, Republicans have long maintained that the FISA applications relied heavily on the Steele dossier’s unverified information—information the former British spook compiled for the Hillary Clinton presidential campaign and the Democratic National Committee.

Democrats challenge that assertion, stressing the bulk of the FISA applications and other information included. Although the redactions make it impossible to fully refute these claims, the FISA applications demonstrate the DOJ’s heavy reliance on the Steele dossier.

Only a relatively small portion of the total applications go to the question of whether probable cause exists to surveil Page. Those sections rely on the information the Steele dossier provided.”
10 Key Takeaways From Released FISA Warrants Against Carter Page





Judging by what is clearly no evidence of any such 'collusion' by Trump with Russia, the FBI/DoJ -Mueller pretense, is nothing more than a criminal conspiracy to reverse the results of an American election.



FISA is merely one more of the 'burglar' tools the crooks used.
 
10. Perception vs. reality….that’s what we have with this FISA Court/warrant.
On paper, the court appears independent, and removed from the FBI/DoJ birddogs…..you know, like Loretta Lynch and Bill ‘the rapist’ Clinton were just chatting about grandkids on that tarmac tete-a-tete…..

It’s based on the idea of ‘Plausible Deniability”…..also called lying.




So, we have FBI Agent Strzok and his squeeze, Page, having to persuade FISA Judges to authorize spying…..not part of an anti-Trump ‘insurance policy’ or anything….

Or…is it something else?

“…Strzok and his paramour, FBI attorney Lisa Page, exchanged messages about Strzok’s relationship with Judge Rudolph Contreras.
Page wrote in a text message to Strzok on July 25, 2016: “Rudy is on the FISC! Did you know that? Just appointed two months ago.”

Carter said: “At that point, the pair continues to discuss other issues but comes back to Contreras, ‘I did. We talked about it before and after. I need to get together with him.’ Then later Strzok appears to return to his discussion about Contreras.

Strzok then suggests that a “social setting” meeting would be better than “one-on-one.”
FISA judge now linked to demoted anti-Trump FBI agent - WND - WND




“The pair even schemed about how to set up a cocktail or dinner party just so Contreras, Strzok, and Page could speak without arousing suspicion that they were colluding. Strzok expressed concern that a one-on-one meeting between the two men might require Contreras’ recusal from matters in which Strzok was involved.”
FBI Agent Who Interviewed Flynn Had Personal Relationship With Recused Judge



And, so, yet again, we find that the only places one finds justice are the dictionary and the cemetery.
 
The only wise thing to do with FISA is abolish it, along with the entire un-patriotic Patriot Act.

Occam's razor and all that.


I tend to be a sucker when it come to trusting the better nature of folks.....even of elected and trusted officials.

I know....I'm burned on that score with metronomic regularity.....

...but how do we police actual threats to the the nation without some way to learn what the bad guys are doing and planning?

Do we trust no one????
 
1.Remember Edward Snowden? Obama responded to Snowden’s stunning revelations of the National Security Agency’s vacuuming up millions of Americans’ personal data by going on the Jay Leno Show and proclaiming:

There is no spying on Americans.

How quickly NY Times forgets Obama's lies and frauds


What a lying sack of offal, huh?






2.We’re supposed to believe that, as Hussein lied, Americans are never spied on….
…but, if they are, it’s only after a special kind of warrant, called a FISA, is obtained.

“the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court -- or FISA Court. The court is actually a tribunal whose actions are carried out in secret. The tribunal has the authority to grant warrants for electronic surveillance.” What is a FISA warrant?




3.Spying on one’s political adversaries is both a sign of those third world regimes, and central to the Mueller farrago. It is unAmerican, and the textbook definition of corruption…..but it sure is helpful if you lose a presidential election, huh?

4. Let’s review….Democrats, the only folks for whom there is actual evidence of collusion, conspiracy and similarity of aims, with the Kremlin, purchased a fabricated ‘dossier’ from the Russians, aimed at sinking a Trump aim at the presidency.

Who paid the Ruskies for the slanderous document? Hillary, et al. There’s no disputing that, and no denying its purpose.

Then, her comrades on this side of the ocean, the bosses in the FBI and the DoJ, used it to get FISA warrants to surveil, spy on, wiretape, the whole nine yards, their adversaries.


Some might even call the ‘dossier,’ surveillance, and spying….”an insurance policy” against losing. And some did call it just that.....folks in the FBI no less.





5. Whether one believes the FISA warrants legit or not…..there is no disputing that they never told the FISA judges that the Democrats paid for and authorized the ‘dosssier.’


REMEMBER, the above article is a biased opinion......

BY JAMES BOVARD, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR

James Bovard | The American Conservative
 
1.Remember Edward Snowden? Obama responded to Snowden’s stunning revelations of the National Security Agency’s vacuuming up millions of Americans’ personal data by going on the Jay Leno Show and proclaiming:

There is no spying on Americans.

How quickly NY Times forgets Obama's lies and frauds


What a lying sack of offal, huh?






2.We’re supposed to believe that, as Hussein lied, Americans are never spied on….
…but, if they are, it’s only after a special kind of warrant, called a FISA, is obtained.

“the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court -- or FISA Court. The court is actually a tribunal whose actions are carried out in secret. The tribunal has the authority to grant warrants for electronic surveillance.” What is a FISA warrant?




3.Spying on one’s political adversaries is both a sign of those third world regimes, and central to the Mueller farrago. It is unAmerican, and the textbook definition of corruption…..but it sure is helpful if you lose a presidential election, huh?

4. Let’s review….Democrats, the only folks for whom there is actual evidence of collusion, conspiracy and similarity of aims, with the Kremlin, purchased a fabricated ‘dossier’ from the Russians, aimed at sinking a Trump aim at the presidency.

Who paid the Ruskies for the slanderous document? Hillary, et al. There’s no disputing that, and no denying its purpose.

Then, her comrades on this side of the ocean, the bosses in the FBI and the DoJ, used it to get FISA warrants to surveil, spy on, wiretape, the whole nine yards, their adversaries.


Some might even call the ‘dossier,’ surveillance, and spying….”an insurance policy” against losing. And some did call it just that.....folks in the FBI no less.





5. Whether one believes the FISA warrants legit or not…..there is no disputing that they never told the FISA judges that the Democrats paid for and authorized the ‘dosssier.’


REMEMBER, the above article is a biased opinion......

BY JAMES BOVARD, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR

James Bovard | The American Conservative




Instead of excuses, and attempting to cloud the issue.....how about you find anything you can show to be an error in the OP or any of my posts.


If you can't either you change your affiliations, or admit you are corrupt.
 
11. As the saying goes “A fish rots from the head.” Nowhere is that more true than in Democrat politics.

Was Hussein in on the plot to muddy the water around Trump?

You betcha’ he was.




Here is the interview with Hussein swearing….lying about….the investigation:


WALLACE: Mr. President, when you say what you’ve just said, when Josh Earnest said, as he did -- your spokesman -- in January, the information from the Justice Department is she’s not a target, some people I think are worried whether or not -- the decision whether or not, how to handle the case, will be made on political grounds, not legal grounds.

Can you guarantee to the American people, can you direct the Justice Department to say, "Hillary Clinton will be treated -- as the evidence goes, she will not be in any way protected."

OBAMA: I can guarantee that. And I can guarantee that, not because I give Attorney General Lynch a directive, that is institutionally how we have always operated.

I do not talk to the Attorney General about pending investigations. I do not talk to FBI directors about pending investigations. We have a strict line, and always have maintained it, previous president.

WALLACE: So, just to button this up --

OBAMA: I guarantee it.

WALLACE: You --

OBAMA: I guarantee that there is no political influence in any investigation conducted by the Justice Department, or the FBI, not just in this case, but in any case.

WALLACE: And she will be --

OBAMA: Full stop. Period.

WALLACE: And she will be treated no different --

OBAMA: Guaranteed. Full stop. Nobody gets treated differently when it comes to the Justice Department,because nobody is above the law.

WALLACE: Even if she ends up as the Democratic nominee?

OBAMA: How many times do I have to say it, Chris? Guaranteed.

Exclusive: President Barack Obama on 'Fox News Sunday'





Lying scum....defended to this day by others of the same character.


And remember,” if you like your doctor......”






Now this comes to light:

"Uh Oh: New Texts Suggest Obama WH, CIA, FBI, And Harry Reid Colluded At Outset Of Russia Probe
There are new texts allegedly showing that the Obama White House, the CIA, the FBI, and top Democrats colluded at the outset of the Russia probe.

...coordination between former President Barack Obama’s Chief of Staff Denis McDonough, then-Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid, and CIA Director John Brennan —which they say would “contradict” the Obama administration’s public stance about its hand in the process."
Uh Oh: New Texts Suggest Obama WH, CIA, FBI, And Harry Reid Colluded At Outset Of Russia Probe
Uh Oh: New Texts Suggest Obama WH, CIA, FBI, And Harry Reid Colluded At Outset Of Russia Probe




Looks like we don't need a thousand Obama's to produce a thousand lies.
One Obama does it all alone.
 
Baby Bush loosened the rules. Obama took advantage of it.


You've added nothing to the issue at hand.

Was FISA used as a tool by corrupt anti-Trump forces in the bogus Mueller pretense....mull that over.

You don't read well, try again.


You don't think well.....don't bother trying again.

LOL, you think fairly highly of yourself eh? You aren't in my league honey. You're a partisan hack blinded by her own false self worth.
 
Baby Bush loosened the rules. Obama took advantage of it.


You've added nothing to the issue at hand.

Was FISA used as a tool by corrupt anti-Trump forces in the bogus Mueller pretense....mull that over.

You don't read well, try again.


You don't think well.....don't bother trying again.

LOL, you think fairly highly of yourself eh? You aren't in my league honey. You're a partisan hack blinded by her own false self worth.


Your league???


Really?


Ivy league grad,as I am?

With the word 'valedictorian' in your educational resume?

If that were the case, one would expect you to be able to understand the conversation into which you dove......

You didn't....you couldn't.


The only thing you're missing is a unicycle, you clown.
 
12. According to protocol, the investigating agency would require a reputable source, and a valid crime for opening a case.



“The FBI obtained a secret court order in October 2016 to monitor the communications of a former adviser to presidential candidate Donald Trump, part of an investigation into possible links between Russia and the campaign, law enforcement and other U.S. officials said.

The FBI and the Justice Department obtained the warrant targeting Carter Page’s communications after convincing a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court judge that there was probable cause to believe Page was acting as an agent of a foreign power, in this case Russia, according to the officials.”
FBI obtained FISA warrant to monitor former Trump adviser Carter Page




But the investigation and spying was begun well before FISA warrants in October 2016.




“WASHINGTON — Within hours of opening an investigation into the Trump campaign’s ties to Russia in the summer of 2016, the F.B.I. dispatched a pair of agents to London on a mission so secretive that all but a handful of officials were kept in the dark.

Their assignment, which has not been previously reported, was to meet the Australian ambassador, who had evidence that one of Donald J. Trump’s advisers knew in advance about Russian election meddling. After tense deliberations between Washington and Canberra, top Australian officials broke with diplomatic protocol and allowed the ambassador, Alexander Downer, to sit for an F.B.I. interview to describe his meeting with the campaign adviser, George Papadopoulos.

The agents summarized their highly unusual interview and sent word to Washington on Aug. 2, 2016, two days after the investigation was opened. Their report helped provide the foundation for a case that, a year ago Thursday, became the special counsel investigation. But at the time, a small group of F.B.I. officials knew it by its code name: Crossfire Hurricane.” https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/16/...tion=click&module=RelatedLinks&pgtype=Article





Was the opening of the investigation legit?

Did you know that the Australian ambassador has ties to the Clintons?

And…more importantly….did the FBI know it?


You betcha’ they did…..with ‘plausible deniability.’



The ambassador with ties to the Clinton Crime Family.....the dossier, paid for by the same bunch.....
Starting to see the pattern???????
 

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