Germany and South Korea Are Free-Loaders On A Good World Order!

JimofPennsylvan

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Germany and South Korea as countries in regards to their obligations to the family of nations are free-loaders, they help themselves with greed and gluttony to the riches the world offers in its free trade policies but don't fulfill their obligations. Both these countries are big exporting nations where they acquire great prosperity for their people selling into the world's open markets, but do you see them stepping up to defend freedom and international law and the prosperous open markets these ideals create threatened by Russia's invasion of neighboring Ukraine? No, these free-loading selfish countries are not doing what is right by Ukraine which is incurring an unprovoked, unjust war at the hands of Russia. Ukraine desperately needs heavy weapons from these two countries.

This is the situation with Russia's invasion of Ukraine you can go through all the factors the experts comment on about will Russia succeed in conquering Ukraine's east and south and all those factors could go in Russia's favor or all these factors could go in Ukraine's favor it doesn't matter Ukraine doesn't win the war unless it gets heavy weapons. It doesn't mean the Free World needs to build Ukraine into a super power what it means is Ukraine unequivocally needs the enough conventional heavy weapons to counter Russia's enormous conventional firepower. This is the variable, the Free-World needs to give Ukraine enough tanks. armored personnel carriers and artillery guns to enable Ukraine to subvert the lethal power of Russia's firepower, Ukraine cannot win the war with dedicated soldiers no matter how admirable in character they need these conventional heavy weapons the issue is this simple!

The country of Germany makes one sick to their stomach how so many German people spout off about how war and the accumulation of weapons is not the answer for the world; o you Germans how wonderful you are, how virtuous you are, I really hope you are so happy with yourselves and your high ideals. Tell me though how do you find peace of mind with Russian atrocities being committed in Ukraine with you as a country that has joined the world order and thereby having a moral obligation to help another country defend itself against barbaric aggression. Many of you Germans with your vision of Russia part of the European family and Russia's energy wealth providing a great spring of prosperity for the European Union and helping it become an economic axis for the world to counter the axis of the U.S. and the axis of China how lucky are the people of Europe to have a country like Germany with its visionary leadership. Though tell me you Germans how do you find peace of mind with the ongoing barbaric behavior of the Russian military doing things like going into Ukrainian homes and taking prisoner Ukrainian fathers to be used for leverage in prisoner exchanges and shooting those that don't cooperate or Russian units going into Ukrainian communities and rounding up young Ukrainian women and using them to provide pleasure to their fighters and in the process wounding these Ukrainian women for life; do you Germans really think your behavior is morally defensible! Ordinary people throughout the world will not forget, this globalization economic model for the world needs to be changed because it rewards selfish countries like Germany and South Korea they richly prosper from this economic model and they don't deserve it they only think of themselves they come up woefully short in fulfilling their duty to other countries!

These countries are really slick they put up a good show but in substance they offer no real help to Ukraine. The Germans talk about a "Zeitenwende", an epochal change in policy, that now they will provide weapons to Ukraine to defend against the Russian invasion of Ukraine; the only strategic shift the world sees in regard to German policy is that of a "rhetoric" shift. South Korea sends a shipment of food and medicine to Ukraine and expects a pat on the back that they are a good country. South Koreans should answer the following questions true or false, if Russia ultimately succeeds in controlling the entirety of Ukraine (it doesn't have to be a province of Russia, a Kremlin controlled puppet government in Kyiv will do) don't you think that will embolden President Xi to invade Taiwan? and after he takes Taiwan don't you think he would love to have North Korea take over South Korea and remove the threat of a successful prosperous democratic country close to his border infecting his people with subversive Western values; don't you think the American people could legitimately ask the question of themselves of why should America sacrifice thousands of her sons and daughters lives and hundreds of billions of dollars saving a democratic South Korea from such a threat when the South Korean people don't really give a damn and haven't really lifted a finger coming to the defense of our ally, the democratic country of Ukraine when faced with their destruction at the hands of Russia?


German weapon manufacturer, Rheinmetall, has "one-hundred" old Marder tanks in a storage yard, it has been reported that the company could have twenty of them refurbished in eight weeks and another fifty refurbished within six months. The Marder tank is a light tank but fast, an important note is that Germany is replacing this tank with a more advanced tank, the "Puma" tank. Currently, Germany has three hundred and seventy operable Marder tanks, again tanks slated for replacement. At minimum with no real harm to Germany, Germany could immediately make two dozen of its current fleet of Marders available to the Ukrainian Army and immediately cut a contract with Rheinmetall for the one-hundred old Marders. It will likely take at least a month to train two dozen Ukrainian tank crews to operate the available Marder tanks and transport these tanks to the war zone in Ukraine and once there the trained Ukrainian tank crews could train other Ukrainian tank crews how to use the Marder tank and by that time refurbished Marder tanks should be arriving in Ukraine and because by mid-May the battle for eastern Ukraine will have commenced and it will definitely be of apocalyptic ferocity, Ukrainian tank crews will be available to man the refurbished Marders because these crews current Ukrainian tanks will have been destroyed in the battle. Further, the country of Germany should immediately cut a contract with Rheinmentall to refurbish fifty used Leopard One tanks and the thirty-five Marder infantry fighting vehicles it has in its storage yards, it has been reported that Rheinmetall could deliver the Leopard tanks in six weeks. If the country of Germany cuts these contracts the U.S. State Department should contact U.S. heavy weapon manufacturers and see if they could provide manufacturing capacity to Rheinmentall on these refurbishment of old weapons contracts and if the U.S. manufacturers can help the offer should be extended to the German foreign ministry because with air delivery Rheinmetall could get parts in their technicians hands within twenty-four hours of being manufactured in these American plants.
 
Korea would kick Germany's ass......Germany's armed forces are in terrible shape due to to commie Merkal. What war do you think South Korea should step into? Idiotic post.
 
Germany and South Korea as countries in regards to their obligations to the family of nations are free-loaders, they help themselves with greed and gluttony to the riches the world offers in its free trade policies but don't fulfill their obligations. Both these countries are big exporting nations where they acquire great prosperity for their people selling into the world's open markets, but do you see them stepping up to defend freedom and international law and the prosperous open markets these ideals create threatened by Russia's invasion of neighboring Ukraine? No, these free-loading selfish countries are not doing what is right by Ukraine which is incurring an unprovoked, unjust war at the hands of Russia. Ukraine desperately needs heavy weapons from these two countries.

This is the situation with Russia's invasion of Ukraine you can go through all the factors the experts comment on about will Russia succeed in conquering Ukraine's east and south and all those factors could go in Russia's favor or all these factors could go in Ukraine's favor it doesn't matter Ukraine doesn't win the war unless it gets heavy weapons. It doesn't mean the Free World needs to build Ukraine into a super power what it means is Ukraine unequivocally needs the enough conventional heavy weapons to counter Russia's enormous conventional firepower. This is the variable, the Free-World needs to give Ukraine enough tanks. armored personnel carriers and artillery guns to enable Ukraine to subvert the lethal power of Russia's firepower, Ukraine cannot win the war with dedicated soldiers no matter how admirable in character they need these conventional heavy weapons the issue is this simple!

The country of Germany makes one sick to their stomach how so many German people spout off about how war and the accumulation of weapons is not the answer for the world; o you Germans how wonderful you are, how virtuous you are, I really hope you are so happy with yourselves and your high ideals. Tell me though how do you find peace of mind with Russian atrocities being committed in Ukraine with you as a country that has joined the world order and thereby having a moral obligation to help another country defend itself against barbaric aggression. Many of you Germans with your vision of Russia part of the European family and Russia's energy wealth providing a great spring of prosperity for the European Union and helping it become an economic axis for the world to counter the axis of the U.S. and the axis of China how lucky are the people of Europe to have a country like Germany with its visionary leadership. Though tell me you Germans how do you find peace of mind with the ongoing barbaric behavior of the Russian military doing things like going into Ukrainian homes and taking prisoner Ukrainian fathers to be used for leverage in prisoner exchanges and shooting those that don't cooperate or Russian units going into Ukrainian communities and rounding up young Ukrainian women and using them to provide pleasure to their fighters and in the process wounding these Ukrainian women for life; do you Germans really think your behavior is morally defensible! Ordinary people throughout the world will not forget, this globalization economic model for the world needs to be changed because it rewards selfish countries like Germany and South Korea they richly prosper from this economic model and they don't deserve it they only think of themselves they come up woefully short in fulfilling their duty to other countries!

These countries are really slick they put up a good show but in substance they offer no real help to Ukraine. The Germans talk about a "Zeitenwende", an epochal change in policy, that now they will provide weapons to Ukraine to defend against the Russian invasion of Ukraine; the only strategic shift the world sees in regard to German policy is that of a "rhetoric" shift. South Korea sends a shipment of food and medicine to Ukraine and expects a pat on the back that they are a good country. South Koreans should answer the following questions true or false, if Russia ultimately succeeds in controlling the entirety of Ukraine (it doesn't have to be a province of Russia, a Kremlin controlled puppet government in Kyiv will do) don't you think that will embolden President Xi to invade Taiwan? and after he takes Taiwan don't you think he would love to have North Korea take over South Korea and remove the threat of a successful prosperous democratic country close to his border infecting his people with subversive Western values; don't you think the American people could legitimately ask the question of themselves of why should America sacrifice thousands of her sons and daughters lives and hundreds of billions of dollars saving a democratic South Korea from such a threat when the South Korean people don't really give a damn and haven't really lifted a finger coming to the defense of our ally, the democratic country of Ukraine when faced with their destruction at the hands of Russia?


German weapon manufacturer, Rheinmetall, has "one-hundred" old Marder tanks in a storage yard, it has been reported that the company could have twenty of them refurbished in eight weeks and another fifty refurbished within six months. The Marder tank is a light tank but fast, an important note is that Germany is replacing this tank with a more advanced tank, the "Puma" tank. Currently, Germany has three hundred and seventy operable Marder tanks, again tanks slated for replacement. At minimum with no real harm to Germany, Germany could immediately make two dozen of its current fleet of Marders available to the Ukrainian Army and immediately cut a contract with Rheinmetall for the one-hundred old Marders. It will likely take at least a month to train two dozen Ukrainian tank crews to operate the available Marder tanks and transport these tanks to the war zone in Ukraine and once there the trained Ukrainian tank crews could train other Ukrainian tank crews how to use the Marder tank and by that time refurbished Marder tanks should be arriving in Ukraine and because by mid-May the battle for eastern Ukraine will have commenced and it will definitely be of apocalyptic ferocity, Ukrainian tank crews will be available to man the refurbished Marders because these crews current Ukrainian tanks will have been destroyed in the battle. Further, the country of Germany should immediately cut a contract with Rheinmentall to refurbish fifty used Leopard One tanks and the thirty-five Marder infantry fighting vehicles it has in its storage yards, it has been reported that Rheinmetall could deliver the Leopard tanks in six weeks. If the country of Germany cuts these contracts the U.S. State Department should contact U.S. heavy weapon manufacturers and see if they could provide manufacturing capacity to Rheinmentall on these refurbishment of old weapons contracts and if the U.S. manufacturers can help the offer should be extended to the German foreign ministry because with air delivery Rheinmetall could get parts in their technicians hands within twenty-four hours of being manufactured in these American plants.
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I am not that impressed with S. Korean arms, though their exports have risen, they often use US and German parts, lacking the ability to get their own products up to reliability. They have sent millions in nonlethal aide to Ukraine.
 
Germany and South Korea ..... do you see them stepping up to defend freedom and international law ....... ? No, these free-loading selfish countries are not doing what is right by Ukraine which is incurring an unprovoked, unjust war at the hands of Russia. ...
And what did you have to say about their participation during the illegal invasion of Irak on bold lies of WMDs? Did you mean-mouth them (Germany, in particular) for refusing to join the invasion? What about the US? Did you chastise the Americans for "incurring an unprovoked, unjust war" against Irak?

Your logic comes straight from the CIA with an extra sprinkle of seasoning from your butt-hole.
 
In the 20th Century, the Germans got armed to the teeth in the teens as well as the 30's and 40's.

I don't think the world really wants to see the huns on the march again.
 
In the 20th Century, the Germans got armed to the teeth in the teens as well as the 30's and 40's.

I don't think the world really wants to see the huns on the march again.
Huh? What do you mean by singling out the Germans? American soldiers were purposely sent to fight in Vietnam on their 19th. birthdays many of whom came home in body bags ...... still teenagers.
 
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I am not that impressed with S. Korean arms, though their exports have risen, they often use US and German parts, lacking the ability to get their own products up to reliability. They have sent millions in nonlethal aide to Ukraine.
I work with G. they do everything very slow but they know the drill. G Tanks are game - changer for U.
 

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