Gang fight in Glasgow...guns, knives and machetes......but, gun control?

[2aguy]

This was a doozy......fire....crazy young Glasgow kids attacking each other with knives, machetes...and guns.....

"Bloodsoaked thugs wielding guns and machetes turn Glasgow street into a warzone full of exploding vehicles." Which Doesn't Happen in "Gun Free" UK - The Truth About Guns

“Three stab victims staggered past stunned witnesses after two parked vans were torched, then exploded, in a suspected clash between rival gangs,” thesun.co.ukreports. “Three suspects are now being hunted by police after the ‘targeted attack.’

The attackers drove a stolen Ford Transit van at three men sitting in another van in Cardowan on the outskirts of Glasgow on Sunday afternoon. The three men in the parked van…managed to get out of the vehicle but were then chased and attacked with knives in Frankfield Road, Stepps. Both vans were then deliberately set on fire, sending flames ‘as high as a house’ into the air, according to one witness.” Guns? Them too . . .


Emergency service sources confirmed that witnesses had reported seeing guns. They added: “It’s very fortunate the injuries weren’t even worse given the amount of weapons on show.”

 

[gipper]

Funny how that happens. The law abiding are defenseless and the lawless are armed. A nice recipe for an ever expanding more powerful central government.

Thank goodness the elites are well protected....

 

[idb]

Yeah...it's big news when these things happen in the UK.

 

[2aguy]

Yeah...it's big news when these things happen in the UK.

And getting bigger......their violent crime rate went up 27% last year....and their gun crime went up 4%....

After they confiscated their guns....their gun crime rate stayed the same......they achieved nothing by confiscating guns...but they did create more crime victims......they are a more violent country than the U.S.....

 

[TheOldSchool]

Damn. Scotland must have an astronomically high homicide rate.

 

[idb]

Yeah...it's big news when these things happen in the UK.

And getting bigger......their violent crime rate went up 27% last year....and their gun crime went up 4%....

After they confiscated their guns....their gun crime rate stayed the same......they achieved nothing by confiscating guns...but they did create more crime victims......they are a more violent country than the U.S.....

Yes, way more violent than the US.
That's why every assault is such big news over there.
Especially when weapons are involved.

 

[HenryBHough]

Shit.

I gotta to to Glasgow next month.

Maybe I oughta invest in Kevlar.......

 

[2aguy]

Damn. Scotland must have an astronomically high homicide rate.

No.....their criminal thugs don't commit murder...they commit all kinds of other violence...ever hear of the Glasgow Grin....but murder is not a line they cross often......

A different thug culture from our inner city thug culture...

 

[2aguy]

Scotland is an incredibly dangerous place.....

Hmmm...is the U.N. an arm of the NRA?

Scotland - assault capital of the world: Scottish Govt unhappy with UN judgement

SCOTLAND is the assault capital of the world according to new United Nations statistics.

The shocking data shows that we are more likely to be the victims of a physical attack than any other country.

Scotland fared worse than notorious crime hotspots such as Mexico, Colombia and El Salvador.

The United Nations Office on Drugs and Crimes report claimed Scotland is the world leading location for attacks resulting in “serious bodily injury”.

Nearly 1,200 people per 100,000 were assaulted in 2013.

The figure is more than double the rate in England and seven times the average for the rest of the world combined.

The UN research looked at more than 80 countries including rich and poor nations in North and South America, Africa and Asia.


Read more at Scotland - assault capital of the world: Scottish Govt unhappy with UN judgement

 

[sonic]

Yeah...it's big news when these things happen in the UK.

.they are a more violent country than the U.S.....

That's been thoroughly debunked. The definition of violent crime is considerably different than in the U.S. The U.K. defines violent crime as all offenses against a person, whereas the U.S. has a much narrower definition.

 

[TheOldSchool]

Damn. Scotland must have an astronomically high homicide rate.

No.....their criminal thugs don't commit murder...they commit all kinds of other violence...ever hear of the Glasgow Grin....but murder is not a line they cross often......

A different thug culture from our inner city thug culture...

They are either:

A. Friendly criminals (your theory)

B. Stupid criminals - because they are too dumb to realize how much higher their success rates would be with a gun

C. Unable to get guns - only the higher up, most well connected criminals have guns, or the ballsiest criminals willing to risk the black market and gang violence to get their hands on a gun

I assume you're sticking with A 2aguy

 

[2aguy]

Yeah...it's big news when these things happen in the UK.

.they are a more violent country than the U.S.....

That's been thoroughly debunked. The definition of violent crime is considerably different than in the U.S. The U.K. defines violent crime as all offenses against a person, whereas the U.S. has a much narrower definition.

Nope......it has been checked against similar crimes and yes...the U.K. is more violent...nice try though....

 

[2aguy]

Damn. Scotland must have an astronomically high homicide rate.

No.....their criminal thugs don't commit murder...they commit all kinds of other violence...ever hear of the Glasgow Grin....but murder is not a line they cross often......

A different thug culture from our inner city thug culture...

They are either:

A. Friendly criminals (your theory)

B. Stupid criminals - because they are too dumb to realize how much higher their success rates would be with a gun

C. Unable to get guns - only the higher up, most well connected criminals have guns, or the ballsiest criminals willing to risk the black market and gang violence to get their hands on a gun

I assume you're sticking with A 2aguy

No Asswipe....I am sticking with the U.N. report.....try reading...oh...that's right....you can't comprehend what you read...have you 3 year old brother tell you what it means...

 

[2aguy]

Yeah...it's big news when these things happen in the UK.

.they are a more violent country than the U.S.....

That's been thoroughly debunked. The definition of violent crime is considerably different than in the U.S. The U.K. defines violent crime as all offenses against a person, whereas the U.S. has a much narrower definition.

Here you go...notice how they try to tap dance around the truth...

By the Numbers: Is the UK really 5 times more violent than the US?

Due to fundamental differences in how crime is recorded and categorized, it’s impossible to compute exactly what the British violent crime rate would be if it were calculated the way the FBI does it, but if we must compare the two, my best estimate‡ would be something like 776 violent crimes per 100,000 people.

While this is still substantially higher than the rate in the United States, it’s nowhere near the 2,034 cited by Swann and the Mail.

 

[TheOldSchool]

Damn. Scotland must have an astronomically high homicide rate.

No.....their criminal thugs don't commit murder...they commit all kinds of other violence...ever hear of the Glasgow Grin....but murder is not a line they cross often......

A different thug culture from our inner city thug culture...

They are either:

A. Friendly criminals (your theory)

B. Stupid criminals - because they are too dumb to realize how much higher their success rates would be with a gun

C. Unable to get guns - only the higher up, most well connected criminals have guns, or the ballsiest criminals willing to risk the black market and gang violence to get their hands on a gun

I assume you're sticking with A 2aguy

No Asswipe....I am sticking with the U.N. report.....try reading...oh...that's right....you can't comprehend what you read...have you 3 year old brother tell you what it means...

Yes the UN report that says European criminals are respectful and loving, highly appreciative of life. That says scarcity of guns in their countries has nothing to do with how drastically little (compared to the U.S.) gun crime they have. That magical, non-existent UN report.

 

[idb]

Damn. Scotland must have an astronomically high homicide rate.

No.....their criminal thugs don't commit murder...they commit all kinds of other violence...ever hear of the Glasgow Grin....but murder is not a line they cross often......

A different thug culture from our inner city thug culture...

The UK has more cuddly crims.

 

[2aguy]

Yeah...it's big news when these things happen in the UK.

.they are a more violent country than the U.S.....

That's been thoroughly debunked. The definition of violent crime is considerably different than in the U.S. The U.K. defines violent crime as all offenses against a person, whereas the U.S. has a much narrower definition.

And from Bloomberg...

U.K. Gun Curbs Mean More Violence Yet Fewer Deaths Than in U.S.

According to the Sydney-based Institute for Economics and Peace, the U.K. had 933 violent crimes per 100,000 people in 2012, down from 1,255 in 2003. In the U.S., the figure for 2010 was 399 violent crimes per 100,000 people.

 

[2aguy]

Damn. Scotland must have an astronomically high homicide rate.

No.....their criminal thugs don't commit murder...they commit all kinds of other violence...ever hear of the Glasgow Grin....but murder is not a line they cross often......

A different thug culture from our inner city thug culture...

They are either:

A. Friendly criminals (your theory)

B. Stupid criminals - because they are too dumb to realize how much higher their success rates would be with a gun

C. Unable to get guns - only the higher up, most well connected criminals have guns, or the ballsiest criminals willing to risk the black market and gang violence to get their hands on a gun

I assume you're sticking with A 2aguy

No Asswipe....I am sticking with the U.N. report.....try reading...oh...that's right....you can't comprehend what you read...have you 3 year old brother tell you what it means...

Yes the UN report that says European criminals are respectful and loving, highly appreciative of life. That says scarcity of guns in their countries has nothing to do with how drastically little (compared to the U.S.) gun crime they have. That magical, non-existent UN report.

See...I told you to get your 3 year old brother to tell you what it meant.....you still don't understand.....try again....give him a cookie and he might tell you....

 

[2aguy]

And here......for your slow processing brain...a story from NPR.......

How Glasgow Shed Its Reputation As 'The Murder Capital Of Western Europe'

SHAPIRO: Scotland's biggest city was infamously known as the murder capital of Western Europe. And Susan McVie says Glasgow deserved that title. She's a professor of criminology at the University of Edinburgh.

SUSAN MCVIE: Glasgow had a homicide rate of about 63 per million people, which was more than twice as high as in London.

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SHAPIRO: He says at one point, the average killer was 17 years old. These are the very same soccer fields where that BBC reporter filmed the gang fight a decade ago.

(SOUNDBITE OF BBC DOCUMENTARY)

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER #2: And they're all carrying sticks or bottles or, you know, bits of metal.

SHAPIRO: Carnochan says it would happen every Friday night like clockwork.

CARNOCHAN: That's why we called it recreational violence. That's what they did. That's what their fathers did. That's what their uncles did. That's what their brothers did.

 

[2aguy]

Damn. Scotland must have an astronomically high homicide rate.

No.....their criminal thugs don't commit murder...they commit all kinds of other violence...ever hear of the Glasgow Grin....but murder is not a line they cross often......

A different thug culture from our inner city thug culture...

The UK has more cuddly crims.

Not really...if you call stabbing strangers and holding hot irons to the stomach of an elderly woman to make her give up her possessions cuddly.....you guys are weird.....