Future of Palestinian state?

[shoshi]

is he right? is it too late?

 

[JGalt]

I like that guy! (No homo)

Go Frenchie!

 

[Quasar44]

The Palestinians had everything they wanted in the Clinton agreement and walked away
The Trump accords were too biased for Israel

I see zero chance of peace
Zero

 

[ekrem]

1.
The "Arab" does not wield any power besides having oil, which after WW2 has become fully incoporated into USA Superpower system.
Any power the "Arab" wields derives from post-WW2 multilateral/global institutions where USA still is top-dog. USA shields its dictatorial Arab regimes just like it shields Israel.

2.
Not the people of UAE, Saudi-Arabia etc. are allies of Israel but its ruling regimes, which are backed by USA and its military forces have been modelled to oppres their own people.

3.
Obstacle for a Palestinian state is and always has been USA.

4.
The "Arab" is a minority in Muslim world.

5.
Contrary to the claim of this thread that it is too late for a "Palestinian State" the opposite is true. The more USA looses power the more likely a "palestinian State" becomes.

 

[ekrem]

I like that guy! (No homo)

Go Frenchie!

1.
France has been marginalized in Europe by German economic power.

2.
Multi-polarization of global power has resulted in renewed competition.

3.
France will loose its influence in post-colonial territories this decade as other powers move in.

4.
France has very little to offer other than exploitation.

5.
It might happen under the watch of that idiot portrayed in that video.

6.
France is prime example why UN and international-system has to be reformed.
Wielding enormous diplomatic power in post-WW2 institutions (like in UN security council) without wielding hard-power on the ground or playing any role.

7.
Europeans are very good in "talk the talk", whilst others "walk the walk".

 

[JGalt]

1.
France has been marginalized in Europe by German economic power.

2.
Multi-polarization of global power has resulted in renewed competition.

3.
France will loose its influence in post-colonial territories this decade as other powers move in.

4.
France has very little to offer other than exploitation.

5.
It might happen under the watch of that idiot portrayed in that video.

6.
France is prime example why UN and international-system has to be reformed.
Wielding enormous diplomatic power in post-WW2 institutions (like in UN security council) without wielding hard-power on the ground or playing any role.

7.
Europeans are very good in "talk the talk", whilst others "walk the walk".

Sure, whatever. But then those Frenchies get tired of their pablum-eating Macron, come to their senses, and elect right-winger for President, look out.

Maybe President Trump should run for the President of France. he'd fix that place up, you betcha.

 

[ekrem]

Sure, whatever. But then those Frenchies get tired of their pablum-eating Macron, come to their senses, and elect right-winger for President, look out.

Maybe President Trump should run for the President of France. he'd fix that place up, you betcha.

A right-wing president in France won't win any battles in West-Africa or French Pacific colonial territories.
All of those regions secure French wealth, if you can speak of wealth, because France is heavily indebted.
World- and regional powers are moving into West-Africa, which is rich in ressources, and those powers come with infrastructure-investments, technological-transfers or simply financing.
One regional power (Nigeria) is expected to reach 400 million population by 2050.
Nigeria: forecasted population 2025-2050 | Statista
Just one African country equaling EU's population.
Those Africans will take their wealth back from Europe, and they'll do it without any regrets given European colonial attrocities in Africa. Their partners in exploiting African riches will be powers who didn't have that colonial past, which is deeply entrenched in the psyche.

Just like UK ceeded Hong-Kong to China, France will ceed its Pacific colonies to China in the decades ahead or French - right-wing president or not - will be punmmeled by China.

 

[Quasar44]

ekrem
France is a zero nation that produces zero

Germany is still an economic and technological power house

 

[USAF 2023]

is he right? is it too late?

They demand “ Right of Return” which in reality is over 7,00,000 with their Ancestors and extended families, and Formally announced Jews will have no access to the Western Wall
In addition, many have admitted that if possible , their goal is to take over Jerusalem, eliminate the Jewish State, and have the ability to do what they want with its citizens

 

[USAF 2023]

The Palestinians had everything they wanted in the Clinton agreement and walked away
The Trump accords were too biased for Israel

I see zero chance of peace
Zero

Olmert’s offer was even better

 

[Quasar44]

ILOVEISRAEL
They will never get Jerusalem
Jews have Jerusalem 100 percent surrounded on all sides

 

[JGalt]

ILOVEISRAEL
They will never get Jerusalem
Jews have Jerusalem 100 percent surrounded on all sides

They're armed to the teeth too. And they have armored Caterpiller D9 killdozers.

 

[ESay]

There won't be any Palestinian state. One should look on Israeli settlements on the West Bank to understand this.

 

[USAF 2023]

There won't be any Palestinian state. One should look on Israeli settlements on the West Bank to understand this.

Olmert offered to withdraw from almost the entire W. Bank and it was rejected

 

[ESay]

Olmert offered to withdraw from almost the entire W. Bank and it was rejected

There isn't and won't be any peaceful solution to Palestinian issue. The sticking point is Jerusalem. Neither side agrees to compromise here.

 

[USAF 2023]

There isn't and won't be any peaceful solution to Palestinian issue. The sticking point is Jerusalem. Neither side agrees to compromise here.

Not true.

There isn't and won't be any peaceful solution to Palestinian issue. The sticking point is Jerusalem. Neither side agrees to compromise here.

Not true. Olmert offered to withdraw from most of E Jerusalem, give up Israeli control over the entire City and place the Jewish Quarter under International Control

 

[ESay]

Not true.

Not true. Olmert offered to withdraw from most of E Jerusalem, give up Israeli control over the entire City and place the Jewish Quarter under International Control

Okay, if the Arabs rejected these plans then it is bad for them. It was their maybe the last chance to form their own state on the West Bank.