Fuck the Confederacy

[dfens]

You guys lost all the way back in 1865. Get the fuck over it.

 

[PredFan]

You guys lost all the way back in 1865. Get the fuck over it.

You morons lost in 2016 and you still haven't gotten over it.

 

[Valerie]

lily white snowflakes embarrass their white race by embracing the civil war loser flag.

it's OVER losers, Mr Trump is FINALLY on to you!


Trump declares ‘racism is evil’ and denounces neo-Nazis, KKK

 

[norwegen]

You guys lost all the way back in 1865. Get the fuck over it.

Yes, the Democrats lost back then. They also lost in 2016.

Get over it already.

 

[AyeCantSeeYou]

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[Valerie]

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maybe you could give an indication what exactly you are referring to..??

the swear word in the title, the pictures of nazis, the name calling??

 

[Valerie]

The Confederate flag largely disappeared after the Civil War.
The fight against civil rights brought it back.

Analysis | The Confederate flag largely disappeared after the Civil War. The fight against civil rights brought it back.

 

[MaryL]

Americans are conflicted, because we were based on rebellion, and being contradictory. In other words, we are necrotic weirdos. If the south had succeeded from the union for reasons other than holding on to Slavery, we might actually be able to relate to them . But, sadly, the south rebelled against the Union for amoral and inhumane reasons.

 

[truthstandart]

You guys lost all the way back in 1865. Get the fuck over it.

Excuse me, but let me see if I can get this right about those rotten southerners. As I remember right, it was the Damn Yankees (which means masturbators, come on wake up!), that took their ships over to Africa, tore the blacks away from their dwellings, beat them, whipped them, murdered and raped them, threw them into those dark stinking ship holes, brought them to America, sold them to the south and pocketed all that cash. Oh how benevolent! Then guess what, they turned around and told the South they couldn't have the slaves, had war and killed 600,000 of some of the finest people in the world, and slightly forgot to pay the money back. This is like someone sells you a home, you pay them the money, then they say you can't have the home and do not pay you the money back. This might, just a little bit, make you damn mad!

 

[flacaltenn]

The Confederate flag largely disappeared after the Civil War.
The fight against civil rights brought it back.

Analysis | The Confederate flag largely disappeared after the Civil War. The fight against civil rights brought it back.

No it didn't. These jerks just pick and choose "convenient moments" to DECLARE when it came back. It never left. Check the history of Univ Miss for example. In recent decades it's a symbol of the NEW south. The one that stole all your Yankee Auto Plants, jobs and GROWING cities.

IN FACT -- if someone would MAKE a flag for the NEW South -- the old stars n' bars just MIGHT die away.

There's a sense of heritage and connection to the South. And it's NOT about slavery. It now includes the HONEST and almost complete meeting of the races in the South. In the North -- you TALK about race relations. In the South we LIVE race relations. Been that way since the 60s.

The NEW South belongs to everyone who loves this place and the people. Even Black footballers at Univ of Miss who dont sweat "symbols" like the stars n' bars.

 

[MaryL]

You guys lost all the way back in 1865. Get the fuck over it.

Excuse me, but let me see if I can get this right about those rotten southerners. As I remember right, it was the Damn Yankees (which means masturbators, come on wake up!), that took their ships over to Africa, tore the blacks away from their dwellings, beat them, whipped them, murdered and raped them, threw them into those dark stinking ship holes, brought them to America, sold them to the south and pocketed all that cash. Oh how benevolent! Then guess what, they turned around and told the South they couldn't have the slaves, had war and killed 600,000 of some of the finest people in the world, and slightly forgot to pay the money back. This is like someone sells you a home, you pay them the money, then they say you can't have the home and do not pay you the money back. This might, just a little bit, make you damn mad!

I hope you realize blacks and Muslims were the prime movers of slavery, and they still are NOW. We ended it 150 years ago, but there you go. let's ignore facts for political expediency.

 

[ChrisL]

lily white snowflakes embarrass their white race by embracing the civil war loser flag.

it's OVER losers, Mr Trump is FINALLY on to you!


Trump declares ‘racism is evil’ and denounces neo-Nazis, KKK

Except that there are black people there too. Lol.

 

[ChrisL]

The Confederate flag largely disappeared after the Civil War.
The fight against civil rights brought it back.

Analysis | The Confederate flag largely disappeared after the Civil War. The fight against civil rights brought it back.

No it didn't. These jerks just pick and choose "convenient moments" to DECLARE when it came back. It never left. Check the history of Univ Miss for example. In recent decades it's a symbol of the NEW south. The one that stole all your Yankee Auto Plants, jobs and GROWING cities.

IN FACT -- if someone would MAKE a flag for the NEW South -- the old stars n' bars just MIGHT die away.

There's a sense of heritage and connection to the South. And it's NOT about slavery. It now includes the HONEST and almost complete meeting of the races in the South. In the North -- you TALK about race relations. In the South we LIVE race relations. Been that way since the 60s.

The NEW South belongs to everyone who loves this place and the people. Even Black footballers at Univ of Miss who dont sweat "symbols" like the stars n' bars.

Tsk tsk! You cannot place your own meanings on symbols. Symbols only mean what liberals interpret them to mean, which means the flag is a racist and a bigot.

 

[flacaltenn]

The Confederate flag largely disappeared after the Civil War.
The fight against civil rights brought it back.

Analysis | The Confederate flag largely disappeared after the Civil War. The fight against civil rights brought it back.

No it didn't. These jerks just pick and choose "convenient moments" to DECLARE when it came back. It never left. Check the history of Univ Miss for example. In recent decades it's a symbol of the NEW south. The one that stole all your Yankee Auto Plants, jobs and GROWING cities.

IN FACT -- if someone would MAKE a flag for the NEW South -- the old stars n' bars just MIGHT die away.

There's a sense of heritage and connection to the South. And it's NOT about slavery. It now includes the HONEST and almost complete meeting of the races in the South. In the North -- you TALK about race relations. In the South we LIVE race relations. Been that way since the 60s.

The NEW South belongs to everyone who loves this place and the people. Even Black footballers at Univ of Miss who dont sweat "symbols" like the stars n' bars.

Tsk tsk! You cannot place your own meanings on symbols. Symbols only mean what liberals interpret them to mean, which means the flag is a racist and a bigot.

I guess that's what happens when your great great grandpappy lost a war 160 years. Those Republicans STILL own your ass.. Wait -- thay's Democrats NOW ?? Well I'll be...

 

[Valerie]

The Confederate flag largely disappeared after the Civil War.
The fight against civil rights brought it back.

Analysis | The Confederate flag largely disappeared after the Civil War. The fight against civil rights brought it back.

No it didn't. These jerks just pick and choose "convenient moments" to DECLARE when it came back. It never left. Check the history of Univ Miss for example. In recent decades it's a symbol of the NEW south. The one that stole all your Yankee Auto Plants, jobs and GROWING cities.

IN FACT -- if someone would MAKE a flag for the NEW South -- the old stars n' bars just MIGHT die away.

There's a sense of heritage and connection to the South. And it's NOT about slavery. It now includes the HONEST and almost complete meeting of the races in the South. In the North -- you TALK about race relations. In the South we LIVE race relations. Been that way since the 60s.

The NEW South belongs to everyone who loves this place and the people. Even Black footballers at Univ of Miss who dont sweat "symbols" like the stars n' bars.

oh so the SOUTH gets to declare the NEW meaning of historical hate group symbols at their timely convenience...?


well, what is 'conservative' anti-government SOUTH waiting for, if the lily white snowflakes neeed a NEW flag to make them feeel proud?

do they need big daddy federal government to hold their hand in that silly endeavor??

and WTF is wrong with pride for OLD GLORY representing the UNITED States of America??

why does the NEW south prefer to forever separate themselves and give USA government diplomacy efforts the middle finger?

sure the civil war loser flag never left just as racism never left but recently bad leadership amplifies and perpetuates repetitive destruction.

but somehow "THE NEW SOUTH" with the same old hate symbols feels righteous and PROUD about something.

in the NORTH we walk the diversity walk rationally and compassionately, but keep lying with your ignorant divisive rhetoric.

in the SOUTH it seems lily white snowflakes just can't stop melting over their discomfort with diversity and *gasp* progress.


YouGov | Northeast happiest with diverse America

 

[Valerie]

Most counties in Mississippi have Confederate monuments outside or near their courthouses. In Brooksville in Noxubee County, a Confederate soldier stands along the railroad tracks that separate the white part of town from the black, almost as if to guard against integration.

Opinion | We should treat Confederate monuments the way Moscow and Budapest have treated communist statues

I’ve since reported numerous stories about injustices in the South, many of which involved racial bias, and in nearly every instance, the criminal-justice system that adjudicated those cases did so in courtrooms or police departments or district attorney’s offices or city halls that stand in the shadow of taxpayer-funded monuments celebrating the fight to keep black people as slaves.

[Confederate or not, which monuments should stay or go? We asked, you answered.]


Perhaps we’re too accustomed to it to notice the absurdity, but it is unquestionably absurd: Each day, thousands of black, shackled defendants appear before judges in courthouses guarded by memorials to a cause that believed those defendants’ ancestors were little more than livestock. The symbolism is inescapable. If a totalitarian country were to try members of an oppressed minority in a courtroom flanked by monuments to those who did the oppressing, we’d rightly call them show trials. Yet we’ve been doing exactly this in wide swaths of the South for more than a century.


Supporters of keeping Confederate monuments in place argue that they’re not about celebrating slavery or oppression, but about acknowledging heritage and the past. They argue that to remove the monuments is an attempt to rewrite history. But that isn’t quite right. No one is suggesting we remove the Confederate army from the history of Bull Run or Gettysburg. The objection is to the monuments and memorials that celebrate or glorify the Confederacy, or that explicitly honor those most known for fighting to keep black people from obtaining the legal rights of citizens.

The Battle of Liberty Place monument that was recently removed from New Orleans amid much controversy is a good example. This was literally a monument to a bloody Reconstruction-era rebellion against the state government staged by a white supremacist group. It wasn’t erected after the Civil War, but in 1891, as Reconstruction ended and Louisiana was actively oppressing, terrorizing and disenfranchising black people. The city added a plaque celebrating white supremacy in 1932, nearly 70 years after the Civil War and nearly 60 years after the battle itself.

In fact, the “history and heritage” argument is a hard sell for a lot of the Confederate monuments and memorials.

 

[Valerie]

 

[Valerie]

^ SNOWFLAKES - with Polynesian lawn ornaments - are melting in the U.S.A.

Viral Twitter Thread Nails The Absurdity Of White Supremacists Protesting Anything

 

[Valerie]

the CONFEDERATES were traitors to their country then, and NOW they are fixing for more of the same...

 

[Valerie]

In the wake of the 2015 massacre of several worshipers at Emmanuel AME Church in Charleston by a white supremacist, there’s been a renewed push to remove some of these Confederate monuments and rename streets and squares honoring the Confederacy. But where those campaigns have succeeded, there’s often been a backlash from conservatives concerned about attempts to erase history, Southerners who consider the Confederacy part of their “heritage,” and outright white nationalists.

In Charlottesville, advocates targeted a statue of Robert E. Lee in a park called Lee Square — city council members pointed out that Lee had no connection to Charlottesville, implying that commemorating him was just an indirect way to celebrate the Confederacy, while a high-school student collected 600 signatures on a Change.org petition to rename the statue. (A counter-petition collected 2,000 signatures.)

In February, the city council voted to sell the statue and rename the park Emancipation Park. (The statue is still in place.)

The decision made the city a target for right-wing activism and shows of strength — and for activists keen to stand up to them and demonstrate that such ideas weren’t welcome. The Ku Klux Klan held a rally in Charlottesville in July, which was dwarfed by a massive counter-protest.

Meanwhile, Charlottesville resident Jason Kessler — a pro-white activist and a member of the Proud Boys, a loose collective of pro-Trump alt-rightists — put together the Unite the Right rally for Saturday, to be held at what event posters still call Lee Park. Speakers include some of the alt-right personalities who have flirted most openly with white nationalism, including Baked Alaska, an internet provocateur who was once the tour manager for fellow internet provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos, as well as self-identified white nationalists like Richard Spencer.

Political researcher Spencer Sunshine of the firm Political Research Associates told the Guardian’s Jason Wilson that while the rally was originally intended to attract a broad coalition of right-wing groups, it had become “increasingly Nazified” — with some primarily anti-government “patriot” groups refusing to sign on, and explicitly fascist groups like the National Socialist Movement getting on board instead.

Unite the Right, the violent white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, explained