FORMER President TrumpTo Get 2 Weeks Before 2nd Partisan Impeachment Trial

Trump screwed up and lost control of his cult to his detriment he needs to be banned from ever holding any office because he is a danger to freedom..

Just come out and say "the people" are too stupid to be trusted.
Okay, his cult of "the people" are too stupid to be trusted..

Coming from you that is like a Ork complaining about humans shedding skin flakes.
Now you have a snack.
 
"In a statement, McConnell said he had sent his proposal to Chuck Schumer. In it, McConnell proposed that the House of Representatives send the impeachment charge against Trump to the Senate on Jan. 28, and that he be given two weeks after that to prepare his pre-trial brief, before the Senate trial begins."

'Former Chief Of Staff Mark Meadows and Lawyers from Ist admitted politically partisan Impeachment to handle document requests ahead of 2nd politically partisan Impeachment.'


Trump Slam-Dunk Defense:

1. Pelosi slipped in an impeachment interview by declaring the 2nd Impeachment is also politically partisanly motivated with the endgame / goal being to eliminate former President Trump as a political threat in 2024 and beyond

2. DEFINITION - INSURRECTION:
-- "An act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government"

Defense Lawyers should go present the factual case of how the Democrats have continuously engaged in 'Insurrection' for the last 4 years - go down the list, 1 by 1, of every single Obama and Democrat Party failed coup attempt and admitted partisan Impeachment based on zero crimes/evidence/witnesses over the last 4 years, re-hash / bring up every Democrat crime - from the Obama administration's intentional collusion with the Russians and a foreign ex-spy, knowingly using Russian Intel Service propaganda as the basis for committing illegal FISA court crimes and illegally spying on 'everyone' in an attempt to overthrow the government by illegally removing the newly elected President, the FISA Court presenting evidence that the FBI under Mueller and Comey committed FISA Court crimes and illegally spied on Americans for DECADES - going all the way up to this last election, presenting every legitimate case of election fraud.

Publicly cover / expose / rehash / remind the entire world how the Democrats engaged in undermining, Obstruction, Perjury, Sedition, Illegal spying, FISA Court Crimes, Espionage / Leaking Classified, attempted to manufacture and submit false evidence, admitted to attempting the 1st partisan Impeachment based on zero crime, zero evidence, and zero witnesses in US history, then engaged in massive election fraud to include violating State and Federal Constitutions and election laws in the middle of the election in Pa!

Argue that a violent riot instigated, incited by violent Antifa and BLM members is NOT 'Inciting an Insurrection' and that everything the Democrats have done the last 4 years dwarfs this event.

3. Read the entire speech President Trump gave at the Capitol on 6 January, emphasize the part where the former President stated he and the crowd would walk down to the Capitol PEACEFULLY and cheer on Republican politicians opposing the certification of the election until an official review of all major election fraud claims was conducted.

4. To contrast the President's actions and words, present the case against the Democrats for years of inciting violence, starting with the Democrat Party's rhetoric that was so violent it incited the attempted assassination of Republican politicians in a public park. Present every single example of Democrat violent rhetoric and incitement and expressed support of violence the Democrats have engaged in all the way up to and stressing the now VP's call for the still-on-going Leftist Extremist violence to continue after the election ... which is happening as she requested: "It will not stop. It should not stop. WE should not stop" - a definite call for Insurrection. At this point the Defense Team should call for the Impeachment of the VP.

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5. Point out how President Biden, VP Harris, and the Democrats refuse to condemn the violence being perpetrated by foreign-funded domestic terrorists Antifa and BLM, who have caused BILLIONS of dollars in damage to Democrat-run cities across the US.

Point out how Democrats have praised, supported, and facilitated the domestic terrorist violence: 'Summer of love', giving domestic terrorists holding entire city blocks hostage with hardened barriers to keep 1st responders out and help them defend themselves from the police, provided them with food and porta-potties so they could continue / hold-out, etc...

6. Bring the Democrats' treasonous connections to the CCP to full light, from local/state level all the way to the WH: Feinstein, Pelosi, Schumer, Swalwell, and Joe '$1+ Billion Dollar' Biden. Point out how Joe Biden and his criminal family's connection to China has made him a compromised threat to the US - have members from the FBI, DHS, and Treasury Departments who publicly declared they have evidence
of the Bidens' Influence Peddling, Russian Money Laundering, and taking over $1 BILLION from the CCP testify.

Trump's defense team should string this entire Impeachment process out and put the Democrats on trial in the process.. proving that for the last 4 years - through collusion with this nation's enemies, committing violations of both Constitution and Rule of Law, betraying and victimizing US citizens, committing treason, and engaging in continuous failed coup attempts it is the Democrats and the Democrat Party that is the proven threats to our Democracy.

'Shock and Awe' - use this Impeachment to destroy the Democrats by putting them and THEIR continuous treason and Insurrection on trial! Make Pelosi regret ever mentioning a 2nd Impeachment. Raze the criminal organization to the ground by exposing ALL of their crimes and scandal, proving they have Incited Insurrection and engaged in crimes and treason for DECADES, not just the last 4 years, and that THEY are the real threat to our democracy / freedom.









The problem is with the Dems in charge of the Senate they can set the rules for the evidence presentation and the debate.

None of this will happen, because the dems will set the rules in such a way as to present only their side and then call a vote after a brief rebuttal period by the defense.
Sorta like the way the Republicans did in the first impeachment, eh?

Yep, just showing this is nothing more than political theater.
Yeah, it should be okay to have mob justice when one loses an election. Not..

Just like a guy getting shot by cops should result in tens of millions in property damage by a mob.

One day vs. several months.
 
Trump screwed up and lost control of his cult to his detriment he needs to be banned from ever holding any office because he is a danger to freedom..

Just come out and say "the people" are too stupid to be trusted.
Okay, his cult of "the people" are too stupid to be trusted..

Coming from you that is like a Ork complaining about humans shedding skin flakes.
Now you have a snack.

WAAAAAAAGHHH!!!
 
"In a statement, McConnell said he had sent his proposal to Chuck Schumer. In it, McConnell proposed that the House of Representatives send the impeachment charge against Trump to the Senate on Jan. 28, and that he be given two weeks after that to prepare his pre-trial brief, before the Senate trial begins."

'Former Chief Of Staff Mark Meadows and Lawyers from Ist admitted politically partisan Impeachment to handle document requests ahead of 2nd politically partisan Impeachment.'


Trump Slam-Dunk Defense:

1. Pelosi slipped in an impeachment interview by declaring the 2nd Impeachment is also politically partisanly motivated with the endgame / goal being to eliminate former President Trump as a political threat in 2024 and beyond

2. DEFINITION - INSURRECTION:
-- "An act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government"

Defense Lawyers should go present the factual case of how the Democrats have continuously engaged in 'Insurrection' for the last 4 years - go down the list, 1 by 1, of every single Obama and Democrat Party failed coup attempt and admitted partisan Impeachment based on zero crimes/evidence/witnesses over the last 4 years, re-hash / bring up every Democrat crime - from the Obama administration's intentional collusion with the Russians and a foreign ex-spy, knowingly using Russian Intel Service propaganda as the basis for committing illegal FISA court crimes and illegally spying on 'everyone' in an attempt to overthrow the government by illegally removing the newly elected President, the FISA Court presenting evidence that the FBI under Mueller and Comey committed FISA Court crimes and illegally spied on Americans for DECADES - going all the way up to this last election, presenting every legitimate case of election fraud.

Publicly cover / expose / rehash / remind the entire world how the Democrats engaged in undermining, Obstruction, Perjury, Sedition, Illegal spying, FISA Court Crimes, Espionage / Leaking Classified, attempted to manufacture and submit false evidence, admitted to attempting the 1st partisan Impeachment based on zero crime, zero evidence, and zero witnesses in US history, then engaged in massive election fraud to include violating State and Federal Constitutions and election laws in the middle of the election in Pa!

Argue that a violent riot instigated, incited by violent Antifa and BLM members is NOT 'Inciting an Insurrection' and that everything the Democrats have done the last 4 years dwarfs this event.

3. Read the entire speech President Trump gave at the Capitol on 6 January, emphasize the part where the former President stated he and the crowd would walk down to the Capitol PEACEFULLY and cheer on Republican politicians opposing the certification of the election until an official review of all major election fraud claims was conducted.

4. To contrast the President's actions and words, present the case against the Democrats for years of inciting violence, starting with the Democrat Party's rhetoric that was so violent it incited the attempted assassination of Republican politicians in a public park. Present every single example of Democrat violent rhetoric and incitement and expressed support of violence the Democrats have engaged in all the way up to and stressing the now VP's call for the still-on-going Leftist Extremist violence to continue after the election ... which is happening as she requested: "It will not stop. It should not stop. WE should not stop" - a definite call for Insurrection. At this point the Defense Team should call for the Impeachment of the VP.

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5. Point out how President Biden, VP Harris, and the Democrats refuse to condemn the violence being perpetrated by foreign-funded domestic terrorists Antifa and BLM, who have caused BILLIONS of dollars in damage to Democrat-run cities across the US.

Point out how Democrats have praised, supported, and facilitated the domestic terrorist violence: 'Summer of love', giving domestic terrorists holding entire city blocks hostage with hardened barriers to keep 1st responders out and help them defend themselves from the police, provided them with food and porta-potties so they could continue / hold-out, etc...

6. Bring the Democrats' treasonous connections to the CCP to full light, from local/state level all the way to the WH: Feinstein, Pelosi, Schumer, Swalwell, and Joe '$1+ Billion Dollar' Biden. Point out how Joe Biden and his criminal family's connection to China has made him a compromised threat to the US - have members from the FBI, DHS, and Treasury Departments who publicly declared they have evidence
of the Bidens' Influence Peddling, Russian Money Laundering, and taking over $1 BILLION from the CCP testify.

Trump's defense team should string this entire Impeachment process out and put the Democrats on trial in the process.. proving that for the last 4 years - through collusion with this nation's enemies, committing violations of both Constitution and Rule of Law, betraying and victimizing US citizens, committing treason, and engaging in continuous failed coup attempts it is the Democrats and the Democrat Party that is the proven threats to our Democracy.

'Shock and Awe' - use this Impeachment to destroy the Democrats by putting them and THEIR continuous treason and Insurrection on trial! Make Pelosi regret ever mentioning a 2nd Impeachment. Raze the criminal organization to the ground by exposing ALL of their crimes and scandal, proving they have Incited Insurrection and engaged in crimes and treason for DECADES, not just the last 4 years, and that THEY are the real threat to our democracy / freedom.









The problem is with the Dems in charge of the Senate they can set the rules for the evidence presentation and the debate.

None of this will happen, because the dems will set the rules in such a way as to present only their side and then call a vote after a brief rebuttal period by the defense.
Sorta like the way the Republicans did in the first impeachment, eh?
Of Andrew Johnson?
LOL! No goofus...Trumpy-bear.
 
Sorta like the way the Republicans did in the first impeachment, eh?

WTF are you talking about?

Pelosi declared she would not allow the Impeachment to go through unless their was iron-clad evidence of crimes committed by the President.
- Later Democrats admitted the Impeachment was purely politically partisan, that they did not have any crimes/evidence/witnesses, and argued the Constitution did not require them to have any of that.

Pelosi and the Democrats held the fastest Impeachment ever, claiming the President was such an immediate threat' he needed to be removed from office as quickly as possible.
- After the House voted to Impeach, Speaker Pelosi effused to deliver the Articles of Impeachment to the US Senate for WEEKS while she attempted to force Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell to accept HER terms for how the US Senate would run the Impeachment....destroying the Democrats' falxse narrative about Trump being an 'Immediate threat' that needed to be removed from office asap.

During House Intel Committee Impeachment hearings House Intel Committee Chairman Adam Schiff was caught committing Perjury about a non-existent 'whistle blower' and was caught authoring and attempting to submit false evidence against the President.

During the House's Impeachment hearing, Schiff's own State Department witness testified that Biden lied about never meeting with Burisma members, that they had warned him of a Conflict of Interest but Joe ignored them, AND added that it was Hunter and Joe Biden that should be investigated and have to testify before Congress under oath.

The Democrats' 1st-ever Politically Partisan Impeachment' attempt was a train wreck for the Democrats.
 
Yeah, it should be okay to have mob justice when one loses an election. Not..

Are you sitting in front of a mirror as you type this?

CNN Criticized For Fiery But Most Peaceful Reporting On ...


Peaceful protest escalates into looting at Walmart near AT&T Stadium in Arlington, six arrested


WHY DOES JOE BIDEN PRETEND ANTIFA IS A MYTH? - Partisan.Space


Flashback: Back in June, Kamala Harris was all for bailing out protesters

"It should NOT stop. WE should NOT stop!"
 
Yeah, it should be okay to have mob justice when one loses an election. Not..

Are you sitting in front of a mirror as you type this?

CNN Criticized For Fiery But Most Peaceful Reporting On ...


Peaceful protest escalates into looting at Walmart near AT&T Stadium in Arlington, six arrested


WHY DOES JOE BIDEN PRETEND ANTIFA IS A MYTH? - Partisan.Space


Flashback: Back in June, Kamala Harris was all for bailing out protesters

"It should NOT stop. WE should NOT stop!"
And these protestors were inside the capitol building trying to stop a legal election process according to the Constitution? Nope. Your comparisons are not the same thing. The motivations are not the same, the end results were not the same, the issues were not the same... But, you keep on spamming the board with yer redundant crap long enough you might convince someone else besides yourself...
 
Sorta like the way the Republicans did in the first impeachment, eh?

WTF are you talking about?

Pelosi declared she would not allow the Impeachment to go through unless their was iron-clad evidence of crimes committed by the President.
- Later Democrats admitted the Impeachment was purely politically partisan, that they did not have any crimes/evidence/witnesses, and argued the Constitution did not require them to have any of that.

Pelosi and the Democrats held the fastest Impeachment ever, claiming the President was such an immediate threat' he needed to be removed from office as quickly as possible.
- After the House voted to Impeach, Speaker Pelosi effused to deliver the Articles of Impeachment to the US Senate for WEEKS while she attempted to force Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell to accept HER terms for how the US Senate would run the Impeachment....destroying the Democrats' falxse narrative about Trump being an 'Immediate threat' that needed to be removed from office asap.

During House Intel Committee Impeachment hearings House Intel Committee Chairman Adam Schiff was caught committing Perjury about a non-existent 'whistle blower' and was caught authoring and attempting to submit false evidence against the President.

During the House's Impeachment hearing, Schiff's own State Department witness testified that Biden lied about never meeting with Burisma members, that they had warned him of a Conflict of Interest but Joe ignored them, AND added that it was Hunter and Joe Biden that should be investigated and have to testify before Congress under oath.

The Democrats' 1st-ever Politically Partisan Impeachment' attempt was a train wreck for the Democrats.
Thank you for that wildly partisan recap of two years ago.

I was referring to the Senate..the majority party sets the rules. Just as The Republicans were able to skew the result by rule-setting..the Democrats are now able to do the same..this go-round.

BTW..every impeachment has been 'Politically Partisan'. Except maybe this one....not so much.
 
Trump screwed up and lost control of his cult to his detriment he needs to be banned from ever holding any office because he is a danger to freedom..
Does that mean you think he should or should not adopt this defense strategy?
 
Yeah, it should be okay to have mob justice when one loses an election. Not..

Are you sitting in front of a mirror as you type this?

CNN Criticized For Fiery But Most Peaceful Reporting On ...


Peaceful protest escalates into looting at Walmart near AT&T Stadium in Arlington, six arrested


WHY DOES JOE BIDEN PRETEND ANTIFA IS A MYTH? - Partisan.Space


Flashback: Back in June, Kamala Harris was all for bailing out protesters

"It should NOT stop. WE should NOT stop!"
And these protestors were inside the capitol building trying to stop a legal election process according to the Constitution? Nope. Your comparisons are not the same thing. The motivations are not the same, the end results were not the same, the issues were not the same... But, you keep on spamming the board with yer redundant crap long enough you might convince someone else besides yourself...

Trump-supporters were overcome by a mob mentality during a riot incited by foreign-funded Democrat-supported domestic terrorists who, as multiple videos show, were aided by Capitol Police.

These same foreign-funded Democrat-supported domestic terrorists are pictured above engaging in 'mob justice' after the Democrats lost an election, something YOU said should not be tolerated...yet which the Democrats did not only tolerate but defended, justified, incited, and encouraged:

Flashback: Back in June, Kamala Harris was all for bailing out protesters

"It should NOT stop. WE should NOT stop!"

THIS
, btw, is the newly elected VP actually 'inciting Insurrection' that is going on right now in Portland, Just as she called for.

Antifa and BLM were proven to have been inside the Capitol, and now they are looting, burning, and destroying...again...just as the VP said they should....and the Democrats - especially their new President - refuses to condemn them and their violence.
 
Trump screwed up and lost control of his cult to his detriment he needs to be banned from ever holding any office because he is a danger to freedom..
Does that mean you think he should or should not adopt this defense strategy?
Trump will claim he did nothing to incite the mob yet there is a ton of documented evidence along with his cadre that also incited the mob. His biggest mistake was having the rally period.
 
"In a statement, McConnell said he had sent his proposal to Chuck Schumer. In it, McConnell proposed that the House of Representatives send the impeachment charge against Trump to the Senate on Jan. 28, and that he be given two weeks after that to prepare his pre-trial brief, before the Senate trial begins."

'Former Chief Of Staff Mark Meadows and Lawyers from Ist admitted politically partisan Impeachment to handle document requests ahead of 2nd politically partisan Impeachment.'


Trump Slam-Dunk Defense:

1. Pelosi slipped in an impeachment interview by declaring the 2nd Impeachment is also politically partisanly motivated with the endgame / goal being to eliminate former President Trump as a political threat in 2024 and beyond

2. DEFINITION - INSURRECTION:
-- "An act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government"

Defense Lawyers should go present the factual case of how the Democrats have continuously engaged in 'Insurrection' for the last 4 years - go down the list, 1 by 1, of every single Obama and Democrat Party failed coup attempt and admitted partisan Impeachment based on zero crimes/evidence/witnesses over the last 4 years, re-hash / bring up every Democrat crime - from the Obama administration's intentional collusion with the Russians and a foreign ex-spy, knowingly using Russian Intel Service propaganda as the basis for committing illegal FISA court crimes and illegally spying on 'everyone' in an attempt to overthrow the government by illegally removing the newly elected President, the FISA Court presenting evidence that the FBI under Mueller and Comey committed FISA Court crimes and illegally spied on Americans for DECADES - going all the way up to this last election, presenting every legitimate case of election fraud.

Publicly cover / expose / rehash / remind the entire world how the Democrats engaged in undermining, Obstruction, Perjury, Sedition, Illegal spying, FISA Court Crimes, Espionage / Leaking Classified, attempted to manufacture and submit false evidence, admitted to attempting the 1st partisan Impeachment based on zero crime, zero evidence, and zero witnesses in US history, then engaged in massive election fraud to include violating State and Federal Constitutions and election laws in the middle of the election in Pa!

Argue that a violent riot instigated, incited by violent Antifa and BLM members is NOT 'Inciting an Insurrection' and that everything the Democrats have done the last 4 years dwarfs this event.

3. Read the entire speech President Trump gave at the Capitol on 6 January, emphasize the part where the former President stated he and the crowd would walk down to the Capitol PEACEFULLY and cheer on Republican politicians opposing the certification of the election until an official review of all major election fraud claims was conducted.

4. To contrast the President's actions and words, present the case against the Democrats for years of inciting violence, starting with the Democrat Party's rhetoric that was so violent it incited the attempted assassination of Republican politicians in a public park. Present every single example of Democrat violent rhetoric and incitement and expressed support of violence the Democrats have engaged in all the way up to and stressing the now VP's call for the still-on-going Leftist Extremist violence to continue after the election ... which is happening as she requested: "It will not stop. It should not stop. WE should not stop" - a definite call for Insurrection. At this point the Defense Team should call for the Impeachment of the VP.

View attachment 446906


5. Point out how President Biden, VP Harris, and the Democrats refuse to condemn the violence being perpetrated by foreign-funded domestic terrorists Antifa and BLM, who have caused BILLIONS of dollars in damage to Democrat-run cities across the US.

Point out how Democrats have praised, supported, and facilitated the domestic terrorist violence: 'Summer of love', giving domestic terrorists holding entire city blocks hostage with hardened barriers to keep 1st responders out and help them defend themselves from the police, provided them with food and porta-potties so they could continue / hold-out, etc...

6. Bring the Democrats' treasonous connections to the CCP to full light, from local/state level all the way to the WH: Feinstein, Pelosi, Schumer, Swalwell, and Joe '$1+ Billion Dollar' Biden. Point out how Joe Biden and his criminal family's connection to China has made him a compromised threat to the US - have members from the FBI, DHS, and Treasury Departments who publicly declared they have evidence
of the Bidens' Influence Peddling, Russian Money Laundering, and taking over $1 BILLION from the CCP testify.

Trump's defense team should string this entire Impeachment process out and put the Democrats on trial in the process.. proving that for the last 4 years - through collusion with this nation's enemies, committing violations of both Constitution and Rule of Law, betraying and victimizing US citizens, committing treason, and engaging in continuous failed coup attempts it is the Democrats and the Democrat Party that is the proven threats to our Democracy.

'Shock and Awe' - use this Impeachment to destroy the Democrats by putting them and THEIR continuous treason and Insurrection on trial! Make Pelosi regret ever mentioning a 2nd Impeachment. Raze the criminal organization to the ground by exposing ALL of their crimes and scandal, proving they have Incited Insurrection and engaged in crimes and treason for DECADES, not just the last 4 years, and that THEY are the real threat to our democracy / freedom.








All this does is keep Trump in the news and energizes his base while dividing the country further. So much for unity. All political rhetoric BS.
 
Thank you for that wildly partisan recap of two years ago.

FACTUAL.

The evidence has been officially recorded, documented, reported, and the links to all substantiating documents, testimony, evidence, and fact has been posted repeatedly on this board.

Your irrational hate-driven 'nuh-uh' is duly noted.
 
Yeah, it should be okay to have mob justice when one loses an election. Not..

Are you sitting in front of a mirror as you type this?

CNN Criticized For Fiery But Most Peaceful Reporting On ...


Peaceful protest escalates into looting at Walmart near AT&T Stadium in Arlington, six arrested


WHY DOES JOE BIDEN PRETEND ANTIFA IS A MYTH? - Partisan.Space


Flashback: Back in June, Kamala Harris was all for bailing out protesters

"It should NOT stop. WE should NOT stop!"
And these protestors were inside the capitol building trying to stop a legal election process according to the Constitution? Nope. Your comparisons are not the same thing. The motivations are not the same, the end results were not the same, the issues were not the same... But, you keep on spamming the board with yer redundant crap long enough you might convince someone else besides yourself...

Trump-supporters were overcome by a mob mentality during a riot incited by foreign-funded Democrat-supported domestic terrorists who, as multiple videos show, were aided by Capitol Police.

These same foreign-funded Democrat-supported domestic terrorists are pictured above engaging in 'mob justice' after the Democrats lost an election, something YOU said should not be tolerated...yet which the Democrats did not only tolerate but defended, justified, incited, and encouraged:

Flashback: Back in June, Kamala Harris was all for bailing out protesters

"It should NOT stop. WE should NOT stop!"

THIS
, btw, is the newly elected VP actually 'inciting Insurrection' that is going on right now in Portland, Just as she called for.

Antifa and BLM were proven to have been inside the Capitol, and now they are looting, burning, and destroying...again...just as the VP said they should....and the Democrats - especially their new President - refuses to condemn them and their violence.

You seemed to be confused about what truth is.

Fact check: Kamala Harris said protests aren't going to stop, but condemns violence
 
Flashback: Back in June, Kamala Harris was all for bailing out protesters
"It should NOT stop. WE should NOT stop!"

Facts ARE Facts. When will the 'Articles of Impeachment' against Vice President Kamala Harris for 'Inciting Insurrection' be submitted?
 
Trump screwed up and lost control of his cult to his detriment he needs to be banned from ever holding any office because he is a danger to freedom..
Does that mean you think he should or should not adopt this defense strategy?
Trump will claim he did nothing to incite the mob yet there is a ton of documented evidence along with his cadre that also incited the mob. His biggest mistake was having the rally period.
You didn't address what I said when you "replied" to me. I would like to see the democrat shenanigans and incitement to violence exposed and the Senate forced to debate it. I think he should take this approach. Go scorched earth, and why not? What does he have to lose if he makes democrats mad at him? He's not going to run again in 4 years, so if they get mad and say he can't, that makes no difference. At least, if he does this, it could result in democrats being forced to step back from the rhetorical edge and regain some civility in their speech. Now, are you going to address the topic or continue trying to drag it down a different path?
 

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