Filling a gas-powered vehicle can still be cheaper than charging an electric one

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Savings on Purchase price alone is huge!

Many electric cars owners have been reveling in their purchases as gasoline prices reach record highs.


According to the EPA, the national average for a kilowatt-hour of electricity is 13 cents, including at homes where most electric car owners charge their vehicles with 240-volt Level 2 chargers that typically take eight hours or more to fill them up. Many of these are also available in public settings like office and shopping center parking lots, where they are known as destination chargers.

Things are much different at the Level 3 public DC fast-charging stations that allow some electric vehicles to recharge to 80% as quickly as 18 to 40 minutes, depending on the model and station speed, and are seen by some as the silver bullet that will make owning an electric car as convenient as a gas-powered one. Much of Tesla's success is attributed to its decision to roll out its proprietary network of Supercharger fast charging stations to support its owners.

On the Electrify America network that's compatible with all electric vehicles, fast-charge rates are as high as 43 cents per kilowatt-hour in some states, including California, New York, Florida and Washington. The price can be reduced to 31 cents by enrolling in a membership with a monthly fee.

At the higher rate, charging the entry-level version of the Ford Mustang Mach-E -- which has a starting price of $37,495 after federal tax credits are deducted and a range of 247 miles between charges -- would cost $2,100 annually for 15,000 miles of driving, compared to $1,500 at 31 cents and just $650 in an average home.

In contrast, a similarly sized Ford Escape Hybrid that starts at $32,780 and gets 41 mpg needs just $1,550 worth of gas each year to fill up at $4.25 per gallon, and it's $2,100 for a nonhybrid $27,755 Escape S rated at 30 mpg. In California, which has the highest priced gasoline at $5.57 per gallon, those costs would be $2,050 and $2,800.

Not everyone buys an electric car with the expectation of saving money, but it's important for anyone looking to cut costs to do the math on their particular situation before they write a check. As they say, your mileage -- and local energy prices -- will vary.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyl...eaper-electric

and this fails to discuss the inconvenience if charging stations are 1-2 out of one's way
 
Savings on Purchase price alone is huge!

Many electric cars owners have been reveling in their purchases as gasoline prices reach record highs.


According to the EPA, the national average for a kilowatt-hour of electricity is 13 cents, including at homes where most electric car owners charge their vehicles with 240-volt Level 2 chargers that typically take eight hours or more to fill them up. Many of these are also available in public settings like office and shopping center parking lots, where they are known as destination chargers.

Things are much different at the Level 3 public DC fast-charging stations that allow some electric vehicles to recharge to 80% as quickly as 18 to 40 minutes, depending on the model and station speed, and are seen by some as the silver bullet that will make owning an electric car as convenient as a gas-powered one. Much of Tesla's success is attributed to its decision to roll out its proprietary network of Supercharger fast charging stations to support its owners.

On the Electrify America network that's compatible with all electric vehicles, fast-charge rates are as high as 43 cents per kilowatt-hour in some states, including California, New York, Florida and Washington. The price can be reduced to 31 cents by enrolling in a membership with a monthly fee.

At the higher rate, charging the entry-level version of the Ford Mustang Mach-E -- which has a starting price of $37,495 after federal tax credits are deducted and a range of 247 miles between charges -- would cost $2,100 annually for 15,000 miles of driving, compared to $1,500 at 31 cents and just $650 in an average home.

In contrast, a similarly sized Ford Escape Hybrid that starts at $32,780 and gets 41 mpg needs just $1,550 worth of gas each year to fill up at $4.25 per gallon, and it's $2,100 for a nonhybrid $27,755 Escape S rated at 30 mpg. In California, which has the highest priced gasoline at $5.57 per gallon, those costs would be $2,050 and $2,800.

Not everyone buys an electric car with the expectation of saving money, but it's important for anyone looking to cut costs to do the math on their particular situation before they write a check. As they say, your mileage -- and local energy prices -- will vary.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyl...eaper-electric

and this fails to discuss the inconvenience if charging stations are 1-2 out of one's way
One of the main points you've made is that greedy capitalists are gouging on the price per KWH.

Fast charge rates as high as 43 cents a Kwh?

At least so far, a cooperative approach is impossible in America today.

And of course the root source of the Kwh's is not just coal and will become almost exclusively not coal.

You're not looking for an honest discussion.
 
One of the main points you've made is that greedy capitalists are gouging on the price per KWH.

Fast charge rates as high as 43 cents a Kwh?

At least so far, a cooperative approach is impossible in America today.

And of course the root source of the Kwh's is not just coal and will become almost exclusively not coal.

You're not looking for an honest discussion.
LMAO, you think people are going to provide charge stations for free, LMAO you are a gullible SOB
 
I am not really surprised by the costs.
Biggest thing that most do not think about is we have almost maxed out our aging power grid. We use natural gas to produce the largest of our electrical needs. The government actually pays heavy subsidies to make so called green energy to make it even close to affordable to the consumer.
Will be interesting to hear how well things go once California starts shutting down power when the wind starts blowing
 
And a past. If EV's and steamers had had the same level of development that the internal combustion engine did there wouldn't be internal combustion engines today.
In the beginning of the last century, EV's were gaining popularity, especially with women, because they didn't have to physically turn a hand crank to start the engine.
But when the Ford company began selling cars with electric starters and your could start your engine by turning a key.
It doomed EV sales and they all went out of business.
 

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