Facts About Judaism

[irosie91]

Is there a particular reason you are so fixated on the topic of Judaism?

It is full of mysticism trying to find esoteric meaning to the events.

Their interpretation comes when they mix the value of words letter by letter by the definition of the the letter itself and also their assigned numerical value. They believe in "secret codes" when the narration itself is simple and without enigmas.

They invent their enigmas and think the solving of their imaginations is wisdom.

The only time when such method of solving enigmas is validated is when prophecies are told. The rest of the narration is plain and simple.

I can state God made man for Him (God) reproduce himself, on the other hand Judaism will state God made man to make Israel the only reproduction of Himself.

Torah, Prophets and Scriptures show that God made a promise to Abraham, later retracts Himself when the descendants from line Isaac-Jacob are stiff necked, with bad mode restore the promise but retracts again when Jacob descendants still showing their brutality of becoming idolaters, and finally God gave up and gave no privileges to no one. The prophets spreading the "word of God" included all nations as to be called "sons of God".

The scenario is simple, and the whole process is just trial and error, but for some reason religious people call it "a plan".

Tell me, it was planed by God creating such a bunch of stiff necked dudes?

I don't think so.

And one of them is challenging me to decipher one of their invented "enigmas". Lol.

Look at the title of the thread - what does it say?
The thread is not about what You think about Judaism, rather FACTS.
You talk about things having no idea about, and certainly not from Jewish sources.

For example, you claim :"interpretation comes when they mix the value of words letter by letter by the definition of the the letter itself and also their assigned numerical value. "
This is called Gematria, not only is it NOT the main method, not a single law is based on it.

FACT is - in Judaism there're 13 set principles of interpretation,
and none of them is what you've mentioned above.

The only reason you dance around my question is because you simply can't answer it.
I didn't ask for any "code" or "enigma" but a simple answer to simple question.
But you do't even have the integrity to admit you can't and don't know.
And after all that chest thumping - why is that?

Try once give a short simple answer.

You want an answer to your "enigmas".

The world has turned literally up side down, the cloud over their heads beraly let them recognize what is West, East, North, South, because the earth now is having an additional tilt and the Sun doesn't have a "fixed" arising and setting at same degree. And you, you suddenly say, "oh, surely here something with esoteric meaning has been writing, same when one of the sons of Jacob was named "traitor". Whoa!"

I have gave you a sure FACT over your mystical crap.

But now, lets go to FACTS.

Where the hell that "Judaism" comes from?

Where in Tanach such name "Judaism" is mentioned?

Who was the inventor of the name of that religious sect known as "Judaism"?

Lets start with FACTS.

which one of the sons of Jacob was "named" traitor? Shimon?
Levi? I do not know a Hebrew word meaning "traitor" that
anyone uses as a NAME

 

[irosie91]

But putting that aside, you have lost the original meaning of the account of Creation.

.
and some would think the sabbath is a reference as the type of completion made for their creation - the necessary example to reward the spirit by a similar completion admission to the Everlasting. seen, not read. the religion of antiquity.

yes-----something like that -------something like the "recessional" ---
-----in music-----the march of the actors off the stage, the wedding
ceremony ends, the silence after the GRAND FINALE (that makes
the creation of eve the grand finale -----<<< I like that idea)

 

[ding]

But putting that aside, you have lost the original meaning of the account of Creation.

.
and some would think the sabbath is a reference as the type of completion made for their creation - the necessary example to reward the spirit by a similar completion admission to the Everlasting. seen, not read. the religion of antiquity.

They are wrong. The sabbath is to give us a pause from creating.

Your religion of antiquity is socialism.

 

[ding]

you seem to miss the fact, dingbat, that your "summary"
is something like the CLASSIC COMIC version of the bible.
Try to pull yourself out of Sunday school. As to your "thousands
of years of transmission......." you got that carbon dated?

So no comment about the Israeli physicist who said the account of Genesis matches the Big Bang?

"....thousands of years of transmission......... ? what does that
analogy have to do with anything-----the hindu version is also .......
.....comparable

It has to do with the account of a Genesis called it 6,000 years before science did.

it has to do with the universe was created. It literally popped into existence just as Genesis claims.

oh-----is that the analogy of the "Israeli physicist...."? I like
"shiva dreamed it...." even better as analogous to BIG BANG.
You made no point. As to the SEVENTH DAY------it is CULMINATION DAY in genesis------kinda like a stitching up the
incision at the close of surgery

That’s only because the original meaning was lost through time.

But it’s not that hard to understand that Genesis starts by addressing the Origin question and concludes that God created everything.

 

[ding]

lurchie exemplifies that Christian obsession of DESPERATE shitting
on Judaism for the sake of christ (poor jesus had no idea what
would happen in his name)

The irony of your post flew over your head.

 

[ding]

you seem to miss the fact, dingbat, that your "summary"
is something like the CLASSIC COMIC version of the bible.
Try to pull yourself out of Sunday school. As to your "thousands
of years of transmission......." you got that carbon dated?

So no comment about the Israeli physicist who said the account of Genesis matches the Big Bang?

"....thousands of years of transmission......... ? what does that
analogy have to do with anything-----the hindu version is also .......
.....comparable

It has to do with the account of a Genesis called it 6,000 years before science did.

it has to do with the universe was created. It literally popped into existence just as Genesis claims.

Genesis 1:27 can you please explain to us what happened to her?

You do realize that You're asking a missionary,
who makes up his mambo jambo without reference in the text?

Go to the source, or most close version to translation with commentaries:

That’s a new one on me. I’ve been called a lot of things but never a missionary.

The Bible is full of examples of people who did what you just did. What you intended for evil God has used for good.

ding says that rylah "JUST DID SOMETHING" -----which he (ding)
seems to imagine was done with evil intent (????) Anyone out
there know what (da hell) ding is saying?

Let me explain it for you. Rather than addressing me as a human being, he dehumanized me by calling me a name that he sees as an insult. He did so to rationalize his treatment of me. To rationalize a wrong as a right. You do the exact same thing over and over again.

Growth filled communities should explore all sides of an issue to arrive at objective truth. Diversity of thought is critical to the process. Honest men can have honest differences of opinion without having to denigrate each other or fear of being personally attacked.

It appears that I have taken the message of God to heart. Why haven’t you? Now do you understand?

 

[ding]

When one places their Jewishness above God, they are guilty of worshipping the created instead of the Creator. This is the original meaning of idol worshipping.

 

[ding]

When one has logic on his side he argues reason. When one has truth on his side he argues facts. When one has neither he attacks the character of the person who has reason and truth on his side.

 

[irosie91]

But putting that aside, you have lost the original meaning of the account of Creation.

.
and some would think the sabbath is a reference as the type of completion made for their creation - the necessary example to reward the spirit by a similar completion admission to the Everlasting. seen, not read. the religion of antiquity.

They are wrong. The sabbath is to give us a pause from creating.

Your religion of antiquity is socialism.

actually---the word SABBATH is an approximation for a word better
translated as HOLIDAY ---which really means 'holy day' (yanno----
from olde English\teutonic garble) Holy day observances include
cessation of profane activity-----like pushing a grinding wheel around and lugging water from the local stream 4 miles down the road.
Holy days are devoted to DEVOTIONAL literature and music and
conversation and stuff like that. (and love-making ----shshsh
---not in front of the kids) It is supposed to be an approach to
the divine ----to the heavens---or sky -----whatevah. Translation
to "rest" is actually very imprecise. People like you, coming from
a culture in which celebration means a drunken brawl would not
understand

 

[irosie91]

lurchie exemplifies that Christian obsession of DESPERATE shitting
on Judaism for the sake of christ (poor jesus had no idea what
would happen in his name)

The irony of your post flew over your head.

yes----the "irony" did fly over my head. I am sure that YOU
can explain how it seems "ironic" to you........GO FOR IT, dingy
dear

 

[irosie91]

you seem to miss the fact, dingbat, that your "summary"
is something like the CLASSIC COMIC version of the bible.
Try to pull yourself out of Sunday school. As to your "thousands
of years of transmission......." you got that carbon dated?

So no comment about the Israeli physicist who said the account of Genesis matches the Big Bang?

"....thousands of years of transmission......... ? what does that
analogy have to do with anything-----the hindu version is also .......
.....comparable

It has to do with the account of a Genesis called it 6,000 years before science did.

it has to do with the universe was created. It literally popped into existence just as Genesis claims.

Genesis 1:27 can you please explain to us what happened to her?

You do realize that You're asking a missionary,
who makes up his mambo jambo without reference in the text?

Go to the source, or most close version to translation with commentaries:

That’s a new one on me. I’ve been called a lot of things but never a missionary.

The Bible is full of examples of people who did what you just did. What you intended for evil God has used for good.

ding says that rylah "JUST DID SOMETHING" -----which he (ding)
seems to imagine was done with evil intent (????) Anyone out
there know what (da hell) ding is saying?

Let me explain it for you. Rather than addressing me as a human being, he dehumanized me by calling me a name that he sees as an insult. He did so to rationalize his treatment of me. To rationalize a wrong as a right. You do the exact same thing over and over again.

Growth filled communities should explore all sides of an issue to arrive at objective truth. Diversity of thought is critical to the process. Honest men can have honest differences of opinion without having to denigrate each other or fear of being personally attacked.

It appears that I have taken the message of God to heart. Why haven’t you? Now do you understand?

yes------I understand that you have serious cognitive problems.
BTW what "name" did he "call" you?

 

[irosie91]

When one places their Jewishness above God, they are guilty of worshipping the created instead of the Creator. This is the original meaning of idol worshipping.

"placing their Jewishness about God...." oh-------I cannot think
of an example of such a phenomenon amongst jews. Now---amongst
Christians--------yeah---lots. Of course I grew up in a Christian
community so-------I am more familiar with Christian fetishes than are
most non-Christian americans. Will the bunny be wearing a face-mask this year? La la la la IN YOUR EASTER BONNET........

 

[ding]

When one places their Jewishness above God, they are guilty of worshipping the created instead of the Creator. This is the original meaning of idol worshipping.

"placing their Jewishness about God...." oh-------I cannot think
of an example of such a phenomenon amongst jews. Now---amongst
Christians--------yeah---lots. Of course I grew up in a Christian
community so-------I am more familiar with Christian fetishes than are
most non-Christian americans. Will the bunny be wearing a face-mask this year? La la la la IN YOUR EASTER BONNET........

I see it from you all of the time.

 

[ding]

you seem to miss the fact, dingbat, that your "summary"
is something like the CLASSIC COMIC version of the bible.
Try to pull yourself out of Sunday school. As to your "thousands
of years of transmission......." you got that carbon dated?

So no comment about the Israeli physicist who said the account of Genesis matches the Big Bang?

"....thousands of years of transmission......... ? what does that
analogy have to do with anything-----the hindu version is also .......
.....comparable

It has to do with the account of a Genesis called it 6,000 years before science did.

it has to do with the universe was created. It literally popped into existence just as Genesis claims.

Genesis 1:27 can you please explain to us what happened to her?

You do realize that You're asking a missionary,
who makes up his mambo jambo without reference in the text?

Go to the source, or most close version to translation with commentaries:

That’s a new one on me. I’ve been called a lot of things but never a missionary.

The Bible is full of examples of people who did what you just did. What you intended for evil God has used for good.

ding says that rylah "JUST DID SOMETHING" -----which he (ding)
seems to imagine was done with evil intent (????) Anyone out
there know what (da hell) ding is saying?

Let me explain it for you. Rather than addressing me as a human being, he dehumanized me by calling me a name that he sees as an insult. He did so to rationalize his treatment of me. To rationalize a wrong as a right. You do the exact same thing over and over again.

Growth filled communities should explore all sides of an issue to arrive at objective truth. Diversity of thought is critical to the process. Honest men can have honest differences of opinion without having to denigrate each other or fear of being personally attacked.

It appears that I have taken the message of God to heart. Why haven’t you? Now do you understand?

yes------I understand that you have serious cognitive problems.
BTW what "name" did he "call" you?

That was exactly the kind of response I expected from you. You are only hurting yourself.

 

[ding]

lurchie exemplifies that Christian obsession of DESPERATE shitting
on Judaism for the sake of christ (poor jesus had no idea what
would happen in his name)

The irony of your post flew over your head.

yes----the "irony" did fly over my head. I am sure that YOU
can explain how it seems "ironic" to you........GO FOR IT, dingy
dear

Your only existence on this board is to subordinate Christianity. Apparently that’s your religion.

 

[ding]

But putting that aside, you have lost the original meaning of the account of Creation.

.
and some would think the sabbath is a reference as the type of completion made for their creation - the necessary example to reward the spirit by a similar completion admission to the Everlasting. seen, not read. the religion of antiquity.

They are wrong. The sabbath is to give us a pause from creating.

Your religion of antiquity is socialism.

actually---the word SABBATH is an approximation for a word better
translated as HOLIDAY ---which really means 'holy day' (yanno----
from olde English\teutonic garble) Holy day observances include
cessation of profane activity-----like pushing a grinding wheel around and lugging water from the local stream 4 miles down the road.
Holy days are devoted to DEVOTIONAL literature and music and
conversation and stuff like that. (and love-making ----shshsh
---not in front of the kids) It is supposed to be an approach to
the divine ----to the heavens---or sky -----whatevah. Translation
to "rest" is actually very imprecise. People like you, coming from
a culture in which celebration means a drunken brawl would not
understand

Cool story, but you do God a disservice by behaving this way.

God hates lip service. Read the words of your prophets.

 

[irosie91]

When one places their Jewishness above God, they are guilty of worshipping the created instead of the Creator. This is the original meaning of idol worshipping.

"placing their Jewishness about God...." oh-------I cannot think
of an example of such a phenomenon amongst jews. Now---amongst
Christians--------yeah---lots. Of course I grew up in a Christian
community so-------I am more familiar with Christian fetishes than are
most non-Christian americans. Will the bunny be wearing a face-mask this year? La la la la IN YOUR EASTER BONNET........

I see it from you all of the time.

oh-----you SEE. What is 'IT" and that you SEE?

 

[irosie91]

lurchie exemplifies that Christian obsession of DESPERATE shitting
on Judaism for the sake of christ (poor jesus had no idea what
would happen in his name)

The irony of your post flew over your head.

yes----the "irony" did fly over my head. I am sure that YOU
can explain how it seems "ironic" to you........GO FOR IT, dingy
dear

Your only existence on this board is to subordinate Christianity. Apparently that’s your religion.

Oh----that's my motive for being on THIS board? Is this a
"Christian board"? I am a jew------I am a member of a community -----ie jews-----that have nothing to do with any Christian community. NOTHING. None of the members of my community spread
propaganda as to "WHY CHRISTIANS ARE WRONG"------lots of
member of YOUR community salt the earth with propaganda as to
WHY JEWS ARE WRONG. How do I know?-----easy--I grew up with members of your community, your trashy propaganda and the idiocy taught in your sunday schools and parochial schools. My very early
reading material consisted of my brothers' many superman comics
and CHRISTIAN PROPAGANDA. I also interacted with the
products of your sunday schools on the playground and school
yards. I am on this board because I is old-----virtually housebound,
and BORED. Do not feel badly about your idiot education----
muslims do the same thing. (of course they are not only obsessed with jews-----they are also obsessed with Christians-----and in south-eastasia----with Hindus)-------I got to learn about it later on when I interacted with lots of professionally trained people from south east asia and Iran. Both muslims and christians KNOCK themselves out
trying to convince themselves that ONLY THEY ARE RIGHT and even
print idiot leaflets to PROVE IT and devote "sermons" to it. -----so
much EFFORT!!!!!

 

[ding]

When one places their Jewishness above God, they are guilty of worshipping the created instead of the Creator. This is the original meaning of idol worshipping.

"placing their Jewishness about God...." oh-------I cannot think
of an example of such a phenomenon amongst jews. Now---amongst
Christians--------yeah---lots. Of course I grew up in a Christian
community so-------I am more familiar with Christian fetishes than are
most non-Christian americans. Will the bunny be wearing a face-mask this year? La la la la IN YOUR EASTER BONNET........

I see it from you all of the time.

oh-----you SEE. What is 'IT" and that you SEE?

You would see it too if you were objective.

 

[ding]

lurchie exemplifies that Christian obsession of DESPERATE shitting
on Judaism for the sake of christ (poor jesus had no idea what
would happen in his name)

The irony of your post flew over your head.

yes----the "irony" did fly over my head. I am sure that YOU
can explain how it seems "ironic" to you........GO FOR IT, dingy
dear

Your only existence on this board is to subordinate Christianity. Apparently that’s your religion.

Oh----that's my motive for being on THIS board? Is this a
"Christian board"? I am a jew------I am a member of a community -----ie jews-----that have nothing to do with any Christian community. NOTHING. None of the members of my community spread
propaganda as to "WHY CHRISTIANS ARE WRONG"------lots of
member of YOUR community salt the earth with propaganda as to
WHY JEWS ARE WRONG. How do I know?-----easy--I grew up with members of your community, your trashy propaganda and the idiocy taught in your sunday schools and parochial schools. My very early
reading material consisted of my brothers' many superman comics
and CHRISTIAN PROPAGANDA. I also interacted with the
products of your sunday schools on the playground and school
yards. I am on this board because I is old-----virtually housebound,
and BORED. Do not feel badly about your idiot education----
muslims do the same thing. (of course they are not only obsessed with jews-----they are also obsessed with Christians-----and in south-eastasia----with Hindus)-------I got to learn about it later on when I interacted with lots of professionally trained people from south east asia and Iran. Both muslims and christians KNOCK themselves out
trying to convince themselves that ONLY THEY ARE RIGHT and even
print idiot leaflets to PROVE IT and devote "sermons" to it. -----so
much EFFORT!!!!!

And apparently it wound you up so much it turned you into an anti-Christian crusader. Praise the lord.