ewish State of Israel was imposed onto the Palestinian people

[David2004]

Military retaliatory actions taken by the State of Israel are seen as being inflammatory by the Palestinian people. The Israeli military controlling the Palestinian society doing what they want whenever they want too. As the Jewish Israeli people expand into new land making it greener with new roads, schools, temples, and housing, it is at the expense of the Palestinian people and their society. The Israeli government has created conditions in the Palestinian society similar to those than that were imposed onto the Jewish people leading up to World War II in Germany. Even within Israel proper there are one hundred plus Unrecognized Palestinian Villages by Israeli Law that have no public water, electricity or roads.

If you don?t recognize it then it does not excise. This has been the corner stone to Israeli government policies from the beginning. It was only recently did the Israeli government recognize that there are a Palestinian people. Before the Israeli government viewed them as Arabs or Jordanians as many Jewish people still believe today. So many of the great wrongs in the world?s history went on for so long because if you don?t recognize it and it does not excise than there is no problem. This is one of the major roadblocks to the truth and a peaceful resolution that the majority of people on both sides can live by.

The Jewish State of Israel was imposed onto the Palestinian people and their Arab neighbors by the western industrial nations in 1947. From the very beginning of the Jewish State of Israel?s army were beyond their recognized boarders taking more Palestinian land in the name of defense and security of their Jewish State. Creating a steady stream of new Palestinian refugees up until today with the financial and military backing of the United States government. Only with major changes in policies and practices on both sides led by the Israeli government will the Palestinian and Arab governments change their ways for the better.

The land of Israel and Palestine without walls and the people living in peace together would be one of the most desirable destinations for tourists in the world. The history of the land has so much meaning to so many people around the world. Developing a major tourist industry that both sides can prosper from will only work in peace without a wall between the people. As there is a violent reaction from the Palestinian people towards the Israeli military occupation. There would be a positive reaction from the Palestinian people when the Israeli government reforms their ways towards the Palestinian society. Words from the other can?t be measured or trusted only their actions and deeds. What should be true for one side should be true for the other side as well in terms of the way people treat one and another.

 

[jimnyc]

What's "ewish"?

See what happens when you copy and paste so much!! LOL

 

[David2004]

How the self proclaimed ?Moral Majority? uses the name of God and Jesus to make their case for profit and politics. The commercial highflying Christen ministries are using the pulpit to install fear of God into the minds of their followers. Many of the extreme religious leaders today are no different than two thousand years ago in their preaching of hate and contempt for other people who believe differently than they do. Using the words of Gods to defend their actions against another people. The European settlers killed the American Indians in the name of God, as are the Israelis and Palestinians today.

The Christen Right and the Zionist Right have formed a bond of unconditional support in any action the people of Israel take against the Palestinian people. All in the name of their God they kill for land and control over another people. Many people with misconstrued minds gain a great deal of power in the commercial religious and political world. The greed and thirst for more power and the paranoia of losing it, keeps their message on edge of the extreme usually creating tension. Out of tension come conflict and tragedy. The Religious leader want you to turn to them for guidance and strength when they are often the ones that at the root of it.

We see some of the religiously misguide Islamic leaders but we can?t see them in the faith of Judaism or the Christianity. Yet, TV preachers such as Hal Lindsey on Trinity Broadcasting Network (TBN) leading us into Armageddon, fulfill their scriptures in the Bible for the second coming of Christ for the Christians and the first coming of Christ for the Jewish people. Without all sides willing to take some blame for the pain on both side there will be no peace or security for those involved. Many of the TV preachers speaking with hollow words to divide the people to build their power.

The standards of good and bad should hold true on both sides equally. To rule out of fear with the big stick will only lead to conflict and war as will one people suppressing another people over time. God would never be so arrogant to say; ?If you do not believe in me, you will go to hell.? Only mankind could be so arrogant to say such a thing.

 

[lilcountriegal]

David... is there a reason you post here when you never answer any questions posed to you?

I tend to not even read the threads made by drive by posters.

 

[Said1]

Originally posted by lilcountriegal
David... is there a reason you post here when you never answer any questions posed to you?

I tend to not even read the threads made by drive by posters.

Hahaha, "drive by poster" good one

 

[kcmcdonald]

you know i was going to reply to this but, i'm not it's a waste of my time and effort to reply to a post whose author wont deffend his position.

 

[David2004]

There are 100?s of millions if not billions of people who want to see peace between the Israelis and Palestinian people in the world. With a few extremists on both sides preventing it from happening. For the Israelis who are the hand in control to let a few Palestinian extremists dictate when the leaders from the two sides will meet is wrong. The seeds we sow determine the crops we reap. For the Israeli government to use the fence off Gaza Strip as an example in preventing suicide bombers was an open invitation. There is no defense for any society to use children or for that matter any human being as a walking time bomb. It is the strength and overwhelming power of the Israelis forces that has put the Palestinian society into such dyer-straights that they have turned to suicide bombers as their only weapon of offence. The conditioning of the people of Israel to serve in active military duty forming a religious military state has only made the matter worst.

Peace is possible if both sides move away from their extreme positions and are willing to really negotiate. Both sides will have to give-up on some of their demands if they want for a long lasting peace. Only with things getting better on both sides will peace have a chance. If the same amount of resource and energy we put into fighting wars was put into peace what a different world we would have. The benefits both sides would receive with peace would be overwhelming support from the global community of nations.

The State of Israel modifying their policies and greatly reducing their retaliatory military actions against the Palestinians. With Israel withdrawing from the Gaza Strip and West Bank putting the pressure on the Palestinians people to reform their ways in dealing with the Israeli Jewish people and state. Only by working as a team can things get better for people on both sides. This will vary in time, rate, and degree for different people and nations but it must start with the Israeli government. Only the Israeli government has the power and control to make the needed changes towards peace.

 

[MtnBiker]

Did you guys hear something?

 

[Said1]

A door slamming, and footsteps running away

 

[kcmcdonald]

"whats that?"
"What?"
"That car, creeping."
"Oh shit."
"DRIVE BY!"

 

[Hobbit]

One thing so many people don't seem to understand about the West Bank is that Jerusalem is in the West Bank. Asking Israel to just concede that would be like asking us to give Washington D.C. or NYC back to the Indians. Or more on point, what if the Roman Empire returned, but the Germans demanded that they get control of the city of Rome because they sacked it three or four times a couple thousand years ago?

 

[watchingfromafar]

One thing so many people don't seem to understand about the West Bank is that Jerusalem is in the West Bank. Asking Israel to just concede that would be like asking us to give Washington D.C. or NYC back to the Indians.

You are right in one since, American Indians are “indigenous” to America, whereas the English were the invaders.

The Palestinians are indigenous to Palestine which includes Jerusalem; It was the Jews who invaded, not the Palestinians.

Or more on point, what if the Roman Empire returned, but the Germans demanded that they get control of the city of Rome because they sacked it three or four times a couple thousand years ago?

Jesus was crucified by the Romans at the request of the local Rabbi's. In return the rebellion against the Roman occupation would end.
BTW: The Germans had nothing to do with either
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[watchingfromafar]

What sickens me the most is the Israeli government sniper teams shooting children. This in itself, is a war crime

IDF shooting children
https://tinyurl.com/yxetctr8

Israel destroying Palestinian fishing boats
https://tinyurl.com/mryr5v79

illegal settlements
https://tinyurl.com/yckn2wzh
The Israeli's are murdering scumbags
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