Europeans Turning Off Biden

[excalibur]

When Donald Trump demanded NATO allies pay their fair share he was attacked as being anti-NATO, blah, blah, blah.

Now that this is happening where are all those big mouths? The big mouths of the left, right, and center? Where are they?

 

[mudwhistle]

When Donald Trump demanded NATO allies pay their fair share he was attacked as being anti-NATO, blah, blah, blah.

Now that this is happening where are all those big mouths? The big mouths of the left, right, and center? Where are they?

The wonders of incompetence.
I hope they started making plans after the election....because they are basically screwed if they're counting on us anymore to protect them.

 

[skye]

About time, isn't it?

 

[mudwhistle]

About time, isn't it?

Yeah....but Biden will call this turn of events a major foreign policy success.

 

[Esdraelon]

The wonders of incompetence.
I hope they started making plans after the election....because they are basically screwed if they're counting on us anymore to protect them.

IF It's accurate that India was refused medical supplies or other assistance under Biden, WT actual F is that all about? What possible benefit would that do for the U.S? Some of these decisions make no sense at all, no matter which side of the political landscape you happen to occupy. The trend also seems to consistently damage our standing in the world. Who does that benefit?

 

[skye]

Yeah....but Biden will call this turn of events a major foreign policy success.

success my ass.

 

[Burgermeister]

Germany is not sending arms to Ukraine and blocked Estonia from doing it. The NATO alliance is for shit.

 

[skye]

Nobody wants war.

We are talking about two countries with nuclear weapons here..... It's a very dangerous situation and cold heads must and should prevail.

 

[excalibur]

Nobody wants war.

We are talking about two countries with nuclear weapons here..... It's a very dangerous situation and cold heads must and should prevail.

Biden is Putin's puppet. Whatever Putin wants Biden has given him in the miserable one-year Biden has been in office.

It cannot be said often enough, Joe Biden was always going to be a disaster as POTUS, but this big of a disaster caught many off-guard. They thought they could manage the ineptness but he is surrounded by like-minded people.

While the House and Senate have incompetents like Pelosi and Schumer in control.

 

[frigidweirdo]

When Donald Trump demanded NATO allies pay their fair share he was attacked as being anti-NATO, blah, blah, blah.

Now that this is happening where are all those big mouths? The big mouths of the left, right, and center? Where are they?

The EU can't rely on the US. Trump's presidency was evidence of this. Doesn't matter what Biden did, the EU has been making their own way for a while now.

Trump wanted NATO allies to "pay their fair share", when they WERE paying more than their fair share. Just the US goes warring and then adds it to their NATO figures. Ridiculous.

 

[excalibur]

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Trump wanted NATO allies to "pay their fair share", when they WERE paying more than their fair share. ...

No, many countries, including Germany, were NOT paying their fair share. Shirkers.

Germany is only one of 19 NATO members that have not met the 2% GDP spending goal set at the 2014 NATO summit in Wales.​

Here's what each NATO country contributes financially to the world's strongest military alliance

There are 19 NATO members that have not met the 2% GDP spending goal set at the 2014 NATO summit in Wales.

www.cnbc.com

 

[frigidweirdo]

No, many countries, including Germany, were NOT paying their fair share. Shirkers.

Germany is only one of 19 NATO members that have not met the 2% GDP spending goal set at the 2014 NATO summit in Wales.​

Here's what each NATO country contributes financially to the world's strongest military alliance

There are 19 NATO members that have not met the 2% GDP spending goal set at the 2014 NATO summit in Wales.

www.cnbc.com

No, they were.

It's a matter of seeing what is what.

What is US military spending? How much is NATO? It's a difficult question.

Certainly attacking Iraq is not NATO spending. The US's military bases in Israel, Cameroon, South Korea, Japan, Iraq, are not NATO.

How can you compare Germany which doesn't go warring with the US which does? Germany spending is all NATO. Because it doesn't do anything else. The US's spending is hardly all NATO.

The US spend $693 billion in 2019 on the military.

1% goes on MERHFC, which other countries like the UK don't need because they have proper healthcare already. They don't need to dangle healthcare in front of potential cannon fodder to get them to sign up.

Financial cost of the Iraq War - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"A 2013 updated study[11] pointed out that US medical and disability claims for veterans after a decade of war had risen to $134.7 billion from $33 billion two years earlier."

So the cost of paying medical costs for those hurt in wars rose massively.

You need to understand that a lot of US military spending doesn't benefit NATO in the slightest.

 

[excalibur]

No, they were.

It's a matter of seeing what is what.

What is US military spending? How much is NATO? It's a difficult question.

Certainly attacking Iraq is not NATO spending. The US's military bases in Israel, Cameroon, South Korea, Japan, Iraq, are not NATO.

How can you compare Germany which doesn't go warring with the US which does? Germany spending is all NATO. Because it doesn't do anything else. The US's spending is hardly all NATO.

No, they have not been paying their fair share of NATO as the recommendation is 2% of GDP and numerous countries aren't near that figure just as the article shows. Period, end of the story.

Don't bother posting more BS.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

When Donald Trump demanded NATO allies pay their fair share he was attacked as being anti-NATO, blah, blah, blah.

Now that this is happening where are all those big mouths? The big mouths of the left, right, and center? Where are they?

They know Putin and Xi share custody of the Bidens. Also, France and the Brits do not trust Biden.

Shocked. I'm not, said Master Yoda

 

[Quasar44]

Biden is a degenerate piece of human F garbage as is the entire Demoncat party and 2/3 of the GOP

USA is a doomed and dying nation and your kids will pay dearly

 

[Quasar44]

2 party system has killed America
It simply does not work and leads to mass corruption

 

[excalibur]

 

[frigidweirdo]

No, they have not been paying their fair share of NATO as the recommendation is 2% of GDP and numerous countries aren't near that figure just as the article shows. Period, end of the story.

Don't bother posting more BS.

Fine, you're going to push your nonsense and claim the Iraq war spending was NATO spending. What a fucking joke.

It's this attitude that is going to see the US lose allies because they think the US is an immature prick.

Bye.

 

[Ivan88]

Regarding Mao's "cultural revolution" mentioned by Mudwhistle. Anyone wanting an account of Mao's slaughters check this month by month account of the slaughters, which future events in USA may resemble soo; See:

Chronology of Mass Killings during the Chinese Cultural Revolution (1966-1976) | Sciences Po Mass Violence and Resistance - Research Network

www.sciencespo.fr