End of Oil is at our door step; what next?

should this concern you

  • yes

    Votes: 2 6.5%
  • no

    Votes: 29 93.5%
  • maybe

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    31
So the solution is to use more oil to make wind mills and solar panels that dont last 10 years?
A clean energy revolution is taking place across America, underscored by the steady expansion of the U.S. renewable energy sector.

The clean energy industry generates hundreds of billions in economic activity, and is expected to continue to grow rapidly in the coming years. There is tremendous economic opportunity for the countries that invent, manufacture and export clean energy technologies.

Clean Energy

Renewable energy is energy that is collected from renewable resources, which are naturally replenished on a human timescale, such as sunlight, wind, rain, tides, waves, and geothermal heat.[3] Renewable energy often provides energy in four important areas: electricity generation, air and water heating/cooling, transportation, and rural (off-grid) energy services
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Moore's Law famously predicted the rapid rate of increase in integrated circuit gate density. As gate sizes are falling into the low single digit nanometre range however, physical constraints on future development are likely. Quantum computing promises to deliver orders of magnitude better performance than conventional binary devices, and IBM has launched a new quantum processor called Eagle, which promises to approach quantum advantage, the point at which quantum computers clearly outperform their conventional counterparts.

Nuclear energy startup TerraPower and GE Hitachi Energy Systems have chosen the site for the first demonstration reactor of Natrium liquid sodium fission technology. The pilot plant will be built in western Wyoming on the site of a coal plant nearing decommissioning.

The World’s Fastest Electric Airplane and GM Invests in Electric Boat Technology by JamesAnderton
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Moore's Law famously predicted the rapid rate of increase in integrated circuit gate density. As gate sizes are falling into the low single digit nanometre range however, physical constraints on future development are likely. Quantum computing promises to deliver orders of magnitude better performance than conventional binary devices, and IBM has launched a new quantum processor called Eagle, which promises to approach quantum advantage, the point at which quantum computers clearly outperform their conventional counterparts.

Nuclear energy startup TerraPower and GE Hitachi Energy Systems have chosen the site for the first demonstration reactor of Natrium liquid sodium fission technology. The pilot plant will be built in western Wyoming on the site of a coal plant nearing decommissioning.

The World’s Fastest Electric Airplane and GM Invests in Electric Boat Technology by JamesAnderton
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Peek Earl Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
 
North Sea is running too dry to meet target

Wednesday July 4, 2007

http://environment.guardian.co.uk/energy/story/0,,
2117952,00.html


The real casus belli: peak oil
Tuesday June 26, 2007
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/story/0,,2
111529,00.html


Science Panel Finds Fault With Estimates of Coal Supply
Published: June 21, 2007 http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/21/business/21coal.
html


Chevron announces that they now have 11.8 years of oil left at current production levels after aquiring Unocal reserves
07/08/05

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/11/business/worldbu
siness/11unocal.html?pagewanted=2&adxnnl=1&
adxnnlx=1123732924-48wR07Ekayb0gi0r7b8l9Q


An Oil Enigma: Production Falls Even as Reserves Rise
Published: June 12, 2004
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/12/business/12RESE.
html?pagewanted=3&hp


"The decline of oil and gas will affect the world population more than climate change"
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/europe/10/02/glo
bal.warming/
'>http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/europe/10/02/glo
bal.warming/


In January 2001, the U.S.
Department of Energy estimated the world's supply of unexploited oil reserves the world supply of oil will be totally exhausted 35 years from now (June 2003).
http://members.aol.com/mpwright9/oil.html

World oil and gas 'running out'
Thursday, October 2, 2003 Posted: 1245 GMT ( 8:45 PM HKT)

http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/europe/10/02/glo
bal.warming/
'>http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/europe/10/02/glo
bal.warming/


The Oil Crunch
Published: May 7, 2004
The question, instead, is when the trend in oil prices will turn decisively upward. That upward turn is inevitable as a growing world economy confronts a resource in limited supply. But when will it happen? Maybe it already has.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/07/opinion/07KRUG.h
tml


Natural gas markets undergo turbulent transition as domestic production declines

Tuesday, December 16, 2003

http://www.statesman.com/business/content/auto/epa
per/editions/tuesday/business_f3edda2474a06071009b.
html


"Texas' oil resource is pretty well picked over," http://www.statesman.com/specialreports/content/sp
ecialreports/energy/0617oil.html
'>http://www.statesman.com/specialreports/content/sp
ecialreports/energy/0617oil.html


Oman's Oil Yield Long in Decline, Shell Data Show
Published: April 8, 2004
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/08/business/08OIL.h
tml?hp


Half of Texas’s oil wells have dried up in the past 40 years and there are very few new ones.

http://www.statesman.com/specialreports/content/sp
ecialreports/energy/0617oil.html
'>http://www.statesman.com/specialreports/content/sp
ecialreports/energy/0617oil.html


Tight Oil Supply Won't Ease Soon
Published: May 16, 2004
Two dollars for a gallon of gas? Get used to it. High fuel prices are here to stay, at least for the near future, because no relief is in sight for tight oil supplies.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/16/business/16OIL.h
tml?pagewanted=2&hp&adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=10
84724567-pWSKI+RB9bShA5oXGRQi4w


The end of the Fossil Fuel era is upon us so what are we going to do next-?

I think it is time for us to look around at other countries who see the end of oil around the corner----&-----work with the rest of us to find a solution?

Zaki Yamani said , "The Stone Age didn't end because they ran out of stones."
 
From a little over five years ago (but still roughly same percentages, etc.);

Most Oil Isn’t Used To Make Gas, Here’s What The Rest Does​

EXCERPT:
...
A mere 46 percent of oil is used to make gasoline, while the rest goes to help make a variety of other useful products.

The other 54 percent of oil is used to make most over-the-counter medicines, various cleaning products, some rubber, tons of cosmetics, many lubricants and most of the world’s asphalt. Virtually all plastic, and every product made from or containing plastic, ultimately comes from oil. Out of every 42-gallon barrel of oil, 22.6 gallons is used to make products other than gasoline.

Petroleum is used to make numerous everyday products including tape, petroleum jelly, bandages, toothpaste, insect repellent, contact lenses, computers, paint, fertilizer and many other things used in everyday life. Over 6,000 different products are made from oil.

Gasoline isn’t even the only way to use oil for fuel. In 2014, 21 percent of fuel oil was used as heating oils or diesel, and another 8 percent was used to create jet fuel, according to the Energy Information Administration (EIA).
...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Similar numbers from a source three years back;

What's in a Barrel of Oil? The 42-Gallon Breakdown


By Petroleum Service Company on Feb 26 2018

EXCERPT:
...

Let's break it down for you:

what's in a barrel of oil PSC petroleum product breakdown

Twenty-six percent of the remaining crude oil goes into the production of diesel and other fuels.

About nine percent is used to make jet fuel.

Three percent of the crude oil goes into the production of asphalt to pave roads and parking lots.

One percent of this goes into the manufacturing of lubricants: the greases and fluids that help keep our world running smoothly.

The remaining fifteen percent is classified as other. These —bottom of the barrel " petrochemical products include thousands of different items, ranging from makeup to medicine.

In fact, we highlight these —Bottom of the Barrel " products in our Petroleum Product of the Week series to showcase just how many products we rely on daily are made using petroleum (at some point in the process).

Did you know that aspirin is a petroleum product? How about food coloring and vape juice? If you dress up your smile with some lipstick, your favorite brand might just be a petroleum product, too.

Every time you reach for something plastic or something made from synthetic rubber, you've got yourself your very own petroleum product. Glasses? Check. Styrofoam? Check. Toothbrush? Check. Even money contains elements of petroleum.
...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
FYI~FWIW
 
With no Oil you will not be able to operate Wind Turbines or Solar plants. You will not be able to do maintenance on Wind turbines or Solar Plants. We will not be able to build the millions of replacements that will be required.

Without Oil, Wind and Solar die.

So why do we use more oil to manufacture Wind and Solar which give us very little in return?

I guess the Green energy people must use oil as much as possible to bring about the dream of peak oil.
All the more reason we should have diversified in the 70's and 80's, you know like when Reagan removed Carter's solar panels from the White House.......things could have been much different.

China would be purchasing our solar panels for one thing instead of the other way arouind.
 
From the other and similar titled thread;
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From a little over five years ago (but still roughly same percentages, etc.);

Most Oil Isn’t Used To Make Gas, Here’s What The Rest Does​

EXCERPT:
...
A mere 46 percent of oil is used to make gasoline, while the rest goes to help make a variety of other useful products.

The other 54 percent of oil is used to make most over-the-counter medicines, various cleaning products, some rubber, tons of cosmetics, many lubricants and most of the world’s asphalt. Virtually all plastic, and every product made from or containing plastic, ultimately comes from oil. Out of every 42-gallon barrel of oil, 22.6 gallons is used to make products other than gasoline.

Petroleum is used to make numerous everyday products including tape, petroleum jelly, bandages, toothpaste, insect repellent, contact lenses, computers, paint, fertilizer and many other things used in everyday life. Over 6,000 different products are made from oil.

Gasoline isn’t even the only way to use oil for fuel. In 2014, 21 percent of fuel oil was used as heating oils or diesel, and another 8 percent was used to create jet fuel, according to the Energy Information Administration (EIA).
...
Most Oil Isn’t Used To Make Gas, Here’s What The Rest Does

A mere 46 percent of oil is used to make gasoline, while the rest goes to help make a variety of other useful products, according to an economist at the American Enterprise Institute. dailycaller.com

Most Oil Isn’t Used To Make Gas, Here’s What The Rest Does ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Similar numbers from a source three years back;
What's in a Barrel of Oil? The 42-Gallon Breakdown

By Petroleum Service Company on Feb 26 2018

EXCERPT:
...

Let's break it down for you:

what's in a barrel of oil PSC petroleum product breakdown

Twenty-six percent of the remaining crude oil goes into the production of diesel and other fuels.

About nine percent is used to make jet fuel.

Three percent of the crude oil goes into the production of asphalt to pave roads and parking lots.

One percent of this goes into the manufacturing of lubricants: the greases and fluids that help keep our world running smoothly.

The remaining fifteen percent is classified as other. These —bottom of the barrel " petrochemical products include thousands of different items, ranging from makeup to medicine.

In fact, we highlight these —Bottom of the Barrel " products in our Petroleum Product of the Week series to showcase just how many products we rely on daily are made using petroleum (at some point in the process).

Did you know that aspirin is a petroleum product? How about food coloring and vape juice? If you dress up your smile with some lipstick, your favorite brand might just be a petroleum product, too.

Every time you reach for something plastic or something made from synthetic rubber, you've got yourself your very own petroleum product. Glasses? Check. Styrofoam? Check. Toothbrush? Check. Even money contains elements of petroleum.
...

petroleumservicecompany.com
petroleumservicecompany.com
What's in a Barrel of Oil? The 42-Gallon Breakdown

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
FYI~FWIW
 
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All the more reason we should have diversified in the 70's and 80's, you know like when Reagan removed Carter's solar panels from the White House.......things could have been much different.

China would be purchasing our solar panels for one thing instead of the other way arouind.
Solar panels are an extremely poor source of electricity.

Your idea is failing.
 
The sun is the ultimate source of electricty.

We're still in R&D phase thanks to resistance from Big Fossil Fuels for 4 decades.


No, we aren't. Max theoretical efficiency for a solar module is 24%. The average home use solar module is hovering at 11%. It isn't the technology holding them back, it is the cost.
 
And if the neocons hadn't shut it down in the 80's we'd be the #1 producer, not China.



No, it wouldn't. To make solar modulrs you have to use all sorts of toxic chemicals. Environmental laws in the First World make it almost impossible to do that sort of manufacturing here.

So they send that sort of work to countries filled with brown people that don't have those laws.
 
No, we aren't. Max theoretical efficiency for a solar module is 24%. The average home use solar module is hovering at 11%. It isn't the technology holding them back, it is the cost.

I had solar hot water for a large 5 bedroom house in 1979.. It was very efficient and paid for itself in 18 months.
 
I had solar hot water for a large 5 bedroom house in 1979.. It was very efficient and paid for itself in 18 months.



Yeah? So?

It's not the same thing.

Stop comparing apples with trash cans.
 

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