End All US Support to Israel

[Rigby5]

When savages attack civilization, I always ally with civilization.

But since the Israelis are brutal liars, murders, and thieves, you have to ally with the Palestinians.

 

[Rigby5]

Not until the Palestinians have raked in as much as the Jews.

Ah, there it is! You're just another lefty anti-semite. Tell us how much you love the fact that Hamas hangs homosexuals and practices female genital mutilation. I know you support it.

I do not condone repression of homosexuals, but you are misinformed about female genital mutilation.
Mohammad was a poor clerk who was married by a wealthy widow, so he only did good things for women in return for his gratitude.
He increased the rights of women so they could inherit, divorce, own estates, etc.
The myth of female genital mutilation is deliberate propaganda.
The reality is that some women have a thick hood covering the clitoris, which prevents sexual stimulation.
The Islamic practice is a slight slit in this hood, to lengthen the vaginal opening upward.
It does NOT include clitoris removal as the fake propaganda lies and claims.

 

[themirrorthief]

If all hell breaks loose in that region you will be sorry you kicked Israel to the curb....remember they are the little satin...we are the big satin...

Israel's occupation of Palestine drives most of the violence in the Middle East, and that's exactly why those who get rich from mass killing support the Jewish State.

the democrats and their hatred and anti semitism is frankly disgusting

 

[Rigby5]

Even if you believe Israel should not lose US charity due to the 1976 Symington Amendment (which forbids aid to rogue nuclear regimes), the latest example of ethnic cleansing in the Sheikh Jarrah neighborhood of East Jerusalem should end the weasel worded BS that assigns some utterly mendacious moral equivalency between occupier and occupied:

"MAY 14, 2021

End Military Support to Israel"​

"Militant right-wing Jewish settlers encouraged and protected by the government of corrupt Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu are trying to evict hundreds of Palestinian families from homes they have owned for decades in East Jerusalem, the Arab-dominated future capital of a Palestinian state if one is ever established.

"The settlers argue in court that the land in question was originally owned by a Jewish trust and should revert accordingly.

"However, as The New York Times notes, the apartheid regime treats people differently depending on their ethnicity: 'Israeli law allows Jews to reclaim ownership of land they vacated in 1948, but denies Palestinians the right to reclaim the properties they fled from in the same war.'"

why should we stop supporting an allie that is defending itself from terrorist?

Easy.
First of all, Israel is no ally, has spied on the US, colluded to corrupt elections, etc.
Israel is in violation of hundreds of UN resolutions and war crimes.
Second is that Israel attacked Palestinians first and the rockets are self defense.
That is why there are 300 dead Palestinians an 8 dead Israelis.

 

[themirrorthief]

When savages attack civilization, I always ally with civilization.

But since the Israelis are brutal liars, murders, and thieves, you have to ally with the Palestinians.

besides Muslims know how to keep their women in line with an occasional stoning or cutting off of the nose...Islam is so peace loving

 

[Dadoalex]

Even if you believe Israel should not lose US charity due to the 1976 Symington Amendment (which forbids aid to rogue nuclear regimes), the latest example of ethnic cleansing in the Sheikh Jarrah neighborhood of East Jerusalem should end the weasel worded BS that assigns some utterly mendacious moral equivalency between occupier and occupied:

"MAY 14, 2021

End Military Support to Israel"​

"Militant right-wing Jewish settlers encouraged and protected by the government of corrupt Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu are trying to evict hundreds of Palestinian families from homes they have owned for decades in East Jerusalem, the Arab-dominated future capital of a Palestinian state if one is ever established.

"The settlers argue in court that the land in question was originally owned by a Jewish trust and should revert accordingly.

"However, as The New York Times notes, the apartheid regime treats people differently depending on their ethnicity: 'Israeli law allows Jews to reclaim ownership of land they vacated in 1948, but denies Palestinians the right to reclaim the properties they fled from in the same war.'"

Setting aside the religious aspects of this,
Israel is an apartheid regime.
But
Prior to 1948 the British and Arabs ran apartheid states.
If Israel actually freed up its political system and Palestinians took control is there any doubt they would return the favor?

It would be nice if they could just say "Hey, you go be a Muslim and I'll go be a Jew and I'll see you Sunday!"
and
Polls on both sides indicate a clear majority would love to take religion out of the politics.

So the question is how does both sides eliminate the inciters who push violence for their personal political power.
In the US he had an election.

Here's hoping Biden will be able to influence both sides.

All military aid on both sides should be on the table.
As well as UN sanctions
Weapons blockades
No fly zone

If neither side will move
lock them in a room, winner take all.
The threat of that conflagration could move the majorities on both sides to act.

 

[themirrorthief]

Even if you believe Israel should not lose US charity due to the 1976 Symington Amendment (which forbids aid to rogue nuclear regimes), the latest example of ethnic cleansing in the Sheikh Jarrah neighborhood of East Jerusalem should end the weasel worded BS that assigns some utterly mendacious moral equivalency between occupier and occupied:

"MAY 14, 2021

End Military Support to Israel"​

"Militant right-wing Jewish settlers encouraged and protected by the government of corrupt Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu are trying to evict hundreds of Palestinian families from homes they have owned for decades in East Jerusalem, the Arab-dominated future capital of a Palestinian state if one is ever established.

"The settlers argue in court that the land in question was originally owned by a Jewish trust and should revert accordingly.

"However, as The New York Times notes, the apartheid regime treats people differently depending on their ethnicity: 'Israeli law allows Jews to reclaim ownership of land they vacated in 1948, but denies Palestinians the right to reclaim the properties they fled from in the same war.'"

why should we stop supporting an allie that is defending itself from terrorist?

Easy.
First of all, Israel is no ally, has spied on the US, colluded to corrupt elections, etc.
Israel is in violation of hundreds of UN resolutions and war crimes.
Second is that Israel attacked Palestinians first and the rockets are self defense.
That is why there are 300 dead Palestinians an 8 dead Israelis.

the UN???????? thanks for that great chuckle

 

[Rigby5]

If all hell breaks loose in that region you will be sorry you kicked Israel to the curb....remember they are the little satin...we are the big satin...

Israel's occupation of Palestine drives most of the violence in the Middle East, and that's exactly why those who get rich from mass killing support the Jewish State.

the democrats and their hatred and anti semitism is frankly disgusting

Israel is not Jewish, but a fake state created mostly by Polish and Russian emigrants how have no Mideast ancestry, like Netanyahu.

And by the way, the word "Semitic" means "of an Arab language group".
It does not mean Jewish.
The Zionists have just appropriated the word.

 

[Rigby5]

Even if you believe Israel should not lose US charity due to the 1976 Symington Amendment (which forbids aid to rogue nuclear regimes), the latest example of ethnic cleansing in the Sheikh Jarrah neighborhood of East Jerusalem should end the weasel worded BS that assigns some utterly mendacious moral equivalency between occupier and occupied:

"MAY 14, 2021

End Military Support to Israel"​

"Militant right-wing Jewish settlers encouraged and protected by the government of corrupt Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu are trying to evict hundreds of Palestinian families from homes they have owned for decades in East Jerusalem, the Arab-dominated future capital of a Palestinian state if one is ever established.

"The settlers argue in court that the land in question was originally owned by a Jewish trust and should revert accordingly.

"However, as The New York Times notes, the apartheid regime treats people differently depending on their ethnicity: 'Israeli law allows Jews to reclaim ownership of land they vacated in 1948, but denies Palestinians the right to reclaim the properties they fled from in the same war.'"

Setting aside the religious aspects of this,
Israel is an apartheid regime.
But
Prior to 1948 the British and Arabs ran apartheid states.
If Israel actually freed up its political system and Palestinians took control is there any doubt they would return the favor?

It would be nice if they could just say "Hey, you go be a Muslim and I'll go be a Jew and I'll see you Sunday!"
and
Polls on both sides indicate a clear majority would love to take religion out of the politics.

So the question is how does both sides eliminate the inciters who push violence for their personal political power.
In the US he had an election.

Here's hoping Biden will be able to influence both sides.

All military aid on both sides should be on the table.
As well as UN sanctions
Weapons blockades
No fly zone

If neither side will move
lock them in a room, winner take all.
The threat of that conflagration could move the majorities on both sides to act.

The Palestinians have no outside agenda or illegal motives.
They just want to keep their homes.
In contrast, the Zionists are descendants of illegal immigrants who want to murder all the Palestinians so they can steal all the land.
It is the Zionists who are immoral, illegal, and impossible to support.
This is not where both sides are equally right or wrong.
The Arabs are totally right and the Zionists are totally wrong.

 

[Rigby5]

Even if you believe Israel should not lose US charity due to the 1976 Symington Amendment (which forbids aid to rogue nuclear regimes), the latest example of ethnic cleansing in the Sheikh Jarrah neighborhood of East Jerusalem should end the weasel worded BS that assigns some utterly mendacious moral equivalency between occupier and occupied:

"MAY 14, 2021

End Military Support to Israel"​

"Militant right-wing Jewish settlers encouraged and protected by the government of corrupt Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu are trying to evict hundreds of Palestinian families from homes they have owned for decades in East Jerusalem, the Arab-dominated future capital of a Palestinian state if one is ever established.

"The settlers argue in court that the land in question was originally owned by a Jewish trust and should revert accordingly.

"However, as The New York Times notes, the apartheid regime treats people differently depending on their ethnicity: 'Israeli law allows Jews to reclaim ownership of land they vacated in 1948, but denies Palestinians the right to reclaim the properties they fled from in the same war.'"

why should we stop supporting an allie that is defending itself from terrorist?

Easy.
First of all, Israel is no ally, has spied on the US, colluded to corrupt elections, etc.
Israel is in violation of hundreds of UN resolutions and war crimes.
Second is that Israel attacked Palestinians first and the rockets are self defense.
That is why there are 300 dead Palestinians an 8 dead Israelis.

the UN???????? thanks for that great chuckle

The UN is useless, but that is because of the US blocking everything.
The rest of the world is against Israel, so why do you think that is?
Sure there is prejudice, but much more against Muslim Arabs than Jews, so that is not why most of the world is against Israel.
It is the constant war crimes by Israel that makes then in such low public opinion around the world.

 

[whitehall]

For a little perspective, the U.S. supports Sub-Sahara African nations to the tune of 8 billion dollars and everybody knows that Americans dare not even visit these countries or risk being killed (and eaten?). Israel is America's anchor in the Mid-East and sworn ally. Only a Marxist educated idiot would suggest abandoning Israel.

 

[Rigby5]

But we should not be aiding them with $5 billion a years like we do.

Israel doesn't get 5 Billion, or 3 Billion, or 2.7 Billion, or whatever number you and the guys down at the Bund meetings are making up this week.

The US government writes a check to General Dynamics, and Rockwell, and Boeing, and Raytheon, and a dozen different companies and those companies let Israel use their hardware as a celebrity endorsement. Because, as Nike and Reebok both know, you can't sell your shoes to poor third-worlders unless you have a super star wearing them.

That money, that you're so concerned about, never leaves America's shores and keeps millions of Americans employed.

I am aware that $5 billion we give Israel every year is actually credit towards US weapons purchases, but that is not any better.
It still comes out of our taxes and makes us more poor, while murdering innocent Palestinians.

And we also bribe Egypt with $5 billion a year so that they won't allow open borders and food to get into Gaza.
That is not credit, but cash for Israel.

 

[Rigby5]

For a little perspective, the U.S. supports Sub-Sahara African nations to the tune of 8 billion dollars and everybody knows that Americans dare not even visit these countries or risk being killed (and eaten?). Israel is America's anchor in the Mid-East and sworn ally. Only a Marxist educated idiot would suggest abandoning Israel.

Wrong.
Israel does absolutely nothing for the US, and instead causes us great harm by making us look like allies with murder and theft.

Israel is totally immoral.
The Zionists were illegal immigrants who smuggled guns in so they could take over from the unarmed natives.
Worse than that, they then killed the British governor there by blowing up the King David Hotel, ambushed the UN Moderator, Folke Bernadotte, and established the most bigoted and racist corrupt regime in the world.

 

[Rigby5]

When savages attack civilization, I always ally with civilization.

But since the Israelis are brutal liars, murders, and thieves, you have to ally with the Palestinians.

besides Muslims know how to keep their women in line with an occasional stoning or cutting off of the nose...Islam is so peace loving

Wrong.
Mohammad tried to reform Judaism, but some old Jewish customs like stoning and cutting off the nose still exist.
Those are Jewish traditions, not Islamic.
With Islam, the only means of execution allowed is beheading, since that is the quickest and least painful.

 

[BS Filter]

When savages attack civilization, I always ally with civilization.

What do you find "civilized" about Jews stealing the homes of non-Jews in Jerusalem?

"The families in the Sheikh Jarrar neighborhood in East Jerusalem were expelled by Israeli soldiers from their homes in Haifa and Jaffa in 1948.

"Twenty-eight families were settled in Sheikh Jarrar in the 1950s by the Jordanian government in coordination with UNRWA. They moved into houses built by wealthy Palestinian families who had escaped the crowded winding streets of the Old City in the early 20th century as well as into newly built homes.

"The area was named for the personal physician of the Islamic general Saladin, who settled there when Muslim armies captured the city from Christian crusaders in 1187."

The Nakba Continues - CounterPunch.org

Jerusalem belongs to the Jews. You wanna fight against God, be my guest. Why don't you go over there and lead the way.

Legally Jerusalem never belonged to Jews.
It belonged to Canaanites until the Hebrew invasion around 1000 BC.
The Babylonians, Assyrians, and Romans beat them and they were gone by 70 AD.

There were only a few thousand Jews in the Old Quarter of Jerusalem in the 1940s, and they decided to fight against the Palestinians, forfeiting citizenship and property in the process.
But the properties Israel is now trying to steal, were never owned by Jews.

The UN made Israel legal out of thin air, but did NOT give Israel Jerusalem.
So then why would anyone claim that Jerusalem belonged to Jews?

Because God says so in the Holy Scriptures.

That is supposed to be irony, right?
Because there is nothing in any Bible that says European Jews should murder Arabs to steal land in Palestine.
In fact, Zion likely is not even supposed to be earthly, but supernatural like heaven.

Give me the Scriptures you're quoting. I think you're very confused.

 

[BS Filter]

When savages attack civilization, I always ally with civilization.

But since the Israelis are brutal liars, murders, and thieves, you have to ally with the Palestinians.

Good luck.

 

[BS Filter]

When savages attack civilization, I always ally with civilization.

But since the Israelis are brutal liars, murders, and thieves, you have to ally with the Palestinians.

besides Muslims know how to keep their women in line with an occasional stoning or cutting off of the nose...Islam is so peace loving

Wrong.
Mohammad tried to reform Judaism, but some old Jewish customs like stoning and cutting off the nose still exist.
Those are Jewish traditions, not Islamic.
With Islam, the only means of execution allowed is beheading, since that is the quickest and least painful.

You're very confused.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

In 1967 when Jews stole the remaining 20% of Palestine,

Sounds awful! Who did they steal it from?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

There were only a few thousand Jews in the Old Quarter of Jerusalem in the 1940s, and they decided to fight against the Palestinians, forfeiting citizenship and property in the process.

Citizenship in what?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

It is especially evil because the Palestinians never had arms or an army

Or a country. Or any territory.