Encounter with the Klan?

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  1. Encounter with the Klan?
  2. When I was 17 or 18 I used to frequent bars, and in one bar there were a few skinheads. I went to this skinhead bar and was drunk. I came into talk with one guy who introduced himself as "white spanish from the USA" we talked about the Klan. I told him "Im Greek" and "Greece is in the EU" so I got away. We talked I dont remember exactly what. Do you think he was just a regular austrian or really from the USA?
 
My FBI report said "seen at a Klen meet" That was in 1981. I reckon ? It was an old nam guy with a survival skewl. I got a lot of gunsmith work but was never offered a robe. I prefered jeans and ostrich boots, with a 44 Charter Bulldog in the left boot
 
  1. Encounter with the Klan?
  2. When I was 17 or 18 I used to frequent bars, and in one bar there were a few skinheads. I went to this skinhead bar and was drunk. I came into talk with one guy who introduced himself as "white spanish from the USA" we talked about the Klan. I told him "Im Greek" and "Greece is in the EU" so I got away. We talked I dont remember exactly what. Do you think he was just a regular austrian or really from the USA?
Definitely was. The Klan takes in all kinds of spaniards and meskins.
 
  1. Encounter with the Klan?
  2. When I was 17 or 18 I used to frequent bars, and in one bar there were a few skinheads. I went to this skinhead bar and was drunk. I came into talk with one guy who introduced himself as "white spanish from the USA" we talked about the Klan. I told him "Im Greek" and "Greece is in the EU" so I got away. We talked I dont remember exactly what. Do you think he was just a regular austrian or really from the USA?
Definitely was. The Klan takes in all kinds of spaniards and meskins.

He was blonde and blue eyed though but he said he is "white spanish". Even white spaniards are seldomly blonde and blue eyed and look germanic. So not sure if he really was.
 
I pretended that Im greek. And he asked why Im in austria. I said because Greece is in the EU and that is one thing. We talked a bit I dont remember what. And then we went our ways.
 
The Ku Klux Klan has not existed in any meaningful form since the late 1980s. I'm hazy on the details, but I consider the definitive end to have been when a woman successfully sued the organization for wrongful death, for having lynched her son. At that time, the only asset that could be identified as belonging to the KKK was an old warehouse, which was seized and the deed to it turned over to her.

That was actually the second incarnation of the KKK. The first started shortly after the end of the Civil War, and faded out near the end of the 19th century. The second incarnation arose during the 1920s, and is what ended in the late 1980s, with that lawsuit the loss of their only identifiable asset.

Since then, there've been a number of insignificantly-small scattered organizations, taking on variations of the Ku Klux Klan name, but with no real connection to either of the historical KKK organizations.
 
The Ku Klux Klan has not existed in any meaningful form since the late 1980s. I'm hazy on the details, but I consider the definitive end to have been when a woman successfully sued the organization for wrongful death, for having lynched her son. At that time, the only asset that could be identified as belonging to the KKK was an old warehouse, which was seized and the deed to it turned over to her.

That was actually the second incarnation of the KKK. The first started shortly after the end of the Civil War, and faded out near the end of the 19th century. The second incarnation arose during the 1920s, and is what ended in the late 1980s, with that lawsuit the loss of their only identifiable asset.

Since then, there've been a number of insignificantly-small scattered organizations, taking on variations of the Ku Klux Klan name, but with no real connection to either of the historical KKK organizations.
The case you're referencing is below

Donald v. United Klans of America
Case Number
84-0725
Michael Donald Lynching Case

Shutting down the notorious United Klans

Nineteen-year-old Michael Donald was on his way to the store in 1981 when two members of the United Klans of America abducted him, beat him, cut his throat and hung his body from a tree on a residential street in Mobile, Ala.

Angry that an interracial jury had failed to convict another black man for killing a white police officer in Birmingham, the Klansmen selected Michael Donald at random and lynched him to intimidate and threaten other blacks. On the same evening, other Klan members burned a cross on the Mobile County courthouse lawn.

The two Klansmen who carried out the ritualistic killing were eventually arrested and convicted. Convinced that the Klan itself should be held responsible for the lynching, Center attorneys filed a civil suit on behalf of Donald's mother, Beulah Mae Donald vs. United Klans. In 1987, the Center won an historic $7 million verdict against the men involved in the lynching.

The verdict marked the end of the United Klans, the same group that had beaten the Freedom Riders in 1961, murdered civil rights worker Viola Liuzzo in 1965, and bombed Birmingham's 16th Street Baptist Church in 1963.

The group was forced to turn over its headquarters to Beulah Mae Donald, and two additional Klansmen were convicted of criminal charges.
Donald v. United Klans of America
 
The case you're referencing is below

Donald v. United Klans of America
Case Number
84-0725
Michael Donald Lynching Case

Shutting down the notorious United Klans

Nineteen-year-old Michael Donald was on his way to the store in 1981 when two members of the United Klans of America abducted him, beat him, cut his throat and hung his body from a tree on a residential street in Mobile, Ala.

Angry that an interracial jury had failed to convict another black man for killing a white police officer in Birmingham, the Klansmen selected Michael Donald at random and lynched him to intimidate and threaten other blacks. On the same evening, other Klan members burned a cross on the Mobile County courthouse lawn.

The two Klansmen who carried out the ritualistic killing were eventually arrested and convicted. Convinced that the Klan itself should be held responsible for the lynching, Center attorneys filed a civil suit on behalf of Donald's mother, Beulah Mae Donald vs. United Klans. In 1987, the Center won an historic $7 million verdict against the men involved in the lynching.

The verdict marked the end of the United Klans, the same group that had beaten the Freedom Riders in 1961, murdered civil rights worker Viola Liuzzo in 1965, and bombed Birmingham's 16th Street Baptist Church in 1963.

The group was forced to turn over its headquarters to Beulah Mae Donald, and two additional Klansmen were convicted of criminal charges.
Donald v. United Klans of America

Yes, I'm pretty sure that's the case I was thinking of.

I do wish you'd cited a more credible source, though. The Southern Poverty Law Center is, itself, now a nasty hate group, not much better than the Klan. Anyone who cites them as authoritative on any subject undermines his own credibility.
 
The case you're referencing is below

Donald v. United Klans of America
Case Number
84-0725
Michael Donald Lynching Case

Shutting down the notorious United Klans

Nineteen-year-old Michael Donald was on his way to the store in 1981 when two members of the United Klans of America abducted him, beat him, cut his throat and hung his body from a tree on a residential street in Mobile, Ala.

Angry that an interracial jury had failed to convict another black man for killing a white police officer in Birmingham, the Klansmen selected Michael Donald at random and lynched him to intimidate and threaten other blacks. On the same evening, other Klan members burned a cross on the Mobile County courthouse lawn.

The two Klansmen who carried out the ritualistic killing were eventually arrested and convicted. Convinced that the Klan itself should be held responsible for the lynching, Center attorneys filed a civil suit on behalf of Donald's mother, Beulah Mae Donald vs. United Klans. In 1987, the Center won an historic $7 million verdict against the men involved in the lynching.

The verdict marked the end of the United Klans, the same group that had beaten the Freedom Riders in 1961, murdered civil rights worker Viola Liuzzo in 1965, and bombed Birmingham's 16th Street Baptist Church in 1963.

The group was forced to turn over its headquarters to Beulah Mae Donald, and two additional Klansmen were convicted of criminal charges.
Donald v. United Klans of America

Yes, I'm pretty sure that's the case I was thinking of.

I do wish you'd cited a more credible source, though. The Southern Poverty Law Center is, itself, now a nasty hate group, not much better than the Klan. Anyone who cites them as authoritative on any subject undermines his own credibility.

Explain what the SPLC is a "nasty hate group." It has done good work for decades.
 
The case you're referencing is below

Donald v. United Klans of America
Case Number
84-0725
Michael Donald Lynching Case

Shutting down the notorious United Klans

Nineteen-year-old Michael Donald was on his way to the store in 1981 when two members of the United Klans of America abducted him, beat him, cut his throat and hung his body from a tree on a residential street in Mobile, Ala.

Angry that an interracial jury had failed to convict another black man for killing a white police officer in Birmingham, the Klansmen selected Michael Donald at random and lynched him to intimidate and threaten other blacks. On the same evening, other Klan members burned a cross on the Mobile County courthouse lawn.

The two Klansmen who carried out the ritualistic killing were eventually arrested and convicted. Convinced that the Klan itself should be held responsible for the lynching, Center attorneys filed a civil suit on behalf of Donald's mother, Beulah Mae Donald vs. United Klans. In 1987, the Center won an historic $7 million verdict against the men involved in the lynching.

The verdict marked the end of the United Klans, the same group that had beaten the Freedom Riders in 1961, murdered civil rights worker Viola Liuzzo in 1965, and bombed Birmingham's 16th Street Baptist Church in 1963.

The group was forced to turn over its headquarters to Beulah Mae Donald, and two additional Klansmen were convicted of criminal charges.
Donald v. United Klans of America

Yes, I'm pretty sure that's the case I was thinking of.

I do wish you'd cited a more credible source, though. The Southern Poverty Law Center is, itself, now a nasty hate group, not much better than the Klan. Anyone who cites them as authoritative on any subject undermines his own credibility.
Morris Dees, a civil rights attorney and the founder of the Southern Poverty Law Center brought the case and prevailed in the lawsuit. Therefore they rightfully should be cited and credited with the win. Sorry my excerpt didn't make that apparent.
 
Morris Dees, a civil rights attorney and the founder of the Southern Poverty Law Center brought the case and prevailed in the lawsuit. Therefore they rightfully should be cited and credited with the win. Sorry my excerpt didn't make that apparent.

I suppose the Devil deserves his due. The SPLC does deserve credit for this final takedown of the KKK.

Nevertheless, one good accomplishment, or even several, cannot erase what the SPLC is. By their very own definition, they are a hate group, that spreads lies and slander against legitimate organizations, and seeks to violate the rights of these organizations and those who are members or supporters thereof. The Ku Klux Klan is dead, but the Southern Poverty Law Center is very much alive, and engaged in the same level of hatred and bigotry that the KKK represented.
 
The Ku Klux Klan has not existed in any meaningful form since the late 1980s. I'm hazy on the details, but I consider the definitive end to have been when a woman successfully sued the organization for wrongful death, for having lynched her son. At that time, the only asset that could be identified as belonging to the KKK was an old warehouse, which was seized and the deed to it turned over to her.

That was actually the second incarnation of the KKK. The first started shortly after the end of the Civil War, and faded out near the end of the 19th century. The second incarnation arose during the 1920s, and is what ended in the late 1980s, with that lawsuit the loss of their only identifiable asset.

Since then, there've been a number of insignificantly-small scattered organizations, taking on variations of the Ku Klux Klan name, but with no real connection to either of the historical KKK organizations.
The real Klan would whip the shit out of a thief or wife beater/deadbeat dad, regardless of color. Then they went after badged Nazi socialists(govt employees) for not doing their job
 

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