Dutch pulling the plug on 12 year old kids?

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Vatican Official Blasts Dutch Euthanasia for Children Proposal

by Steven Ertelt
LifeNews.com Editor
September 3, 2004

The Vatican (LifeNews.com) -- A leading Catholic official is blasting a proposal in the Netherlands that would allow children under the age of 12 to request assisted suicide.

Bishop Elio Sgreccia, the vice-president of the Pontifical Academy for Life, condemned the idea saying "the final boundary will have been crossed" in disrespect for the sanctity of human life.

"No one can claim such homicidal responsibility for himself or for another person. No authority can legitimately impose or permit it. This is a violation of divine law, an offense at the dignity of the human person, a crime against a life and an attack against humanity," the papal representative said.

Bishop Sgreccia warned of a "moral relativism" that has "anesthetized society," and said that modern medicine is wrongly focusing on costs rather than the welfare of the patient.

Approved in 2002, Dutch law allows adult patients suffering from incurables diseases to request assisted suicide. Teenagers under the age of 16 must have their parents approval, but the newly proposed law would drop that to 12 years of age.

Bishop Sgreccia's comments, which appeared in the newspaper l'Osservatore Romano, said that children that young can't provide valid consent.

The Vatican official said the Dutch law is rapidly moving away from assisted suicide and towards euthanasia. Many residents of the European nation wear arm bracelets telling doctors not to end their lives prematurely.

Sgreccia said that Catholic teaching on end of life issues and its opposition to euthanasia and assisted suicide is "well known, constantly repeated, and confirmed."

"We must repeat with the utmost firmness that nothing and no one can give permission to kill an innocent human being, whether he be a fetus, an embryo, a child, an adult, an old person or a sick person in incurable agony," wrote Sgreccia.

Expanding on the Catholic Church's pro-life policies on assisted suicide and euthanasia, the Pope in March said that removing the feeding tube of a disabled patient is immoral and amounts to "euthanasia by omission."

Pope John Paul II also said that the lexicon used to describe such patients -- as being in a "vegetative state" was degrading and inhuman.

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There are those who constantly berate George Bush for his faith. Others crusade to remove any mention of God from the public domain. Well here's an example of secularism gone wild.

Securlarist and communist governments have the worlds worst history of brutality and lack of respect for human life. Lenin, Stalin, Mao, the Khmer Rouge were responsible for the deaths of hundreds of millions. Apparently when a people or a government no longer values spiritual principles, they also no longer value human life.

The frightening question that comes to mind is; How long before they start lobbying for the "right" of suicide on request out there on the left coast?
 
Life doesn't begin until 13. Saying it does is based in religiously inspired ignorance.
 
their teenage and pre-teen depression problem has to be nipped in the bud somehow /sarcasm off

Now, are these people insane?
 
Next on Degrassi: The children worship death and homosexuality in their canadian hell!
 
This could be a new tilt in disciplining children....

Instead of "you're grounded" or "no allowance for a week", parents can now have their children executed.

Don't have enough cash for college? No problem, just line the kids up in the back yard and call in your friendly Firing Squad!

The little woman and you are getting a divorce and you're worried about having to pay child support? No problem...just have the kids poisoned!

I'm sure that the ghosts of Himmler and Eichmann (the two men that were part of Hitler's "final solution" of the Jews) are just laughing at us in their graves right now...
 
If this doesn't prove that liberalism is a mental disease, nothing will.

Sick-Os! :death:

In their social liberal world, TPTB would have the power of life and death over the individual. Only the group would count. Pray that you conform to the group!
 
Merlin1047 said:
http://www.lifenews.com/nat784.html

Vatican Official Blasts Dutch Euthanasia for Children Proposal

by Steven Ertelt
LifeNews.com Editor
September 3, 2004

The Vatican (LifeNews.com) -- A leading Catholic official is blasting a proposal in the Netherlands that would allow children under the age of 12 to request assisted suicide.

Bishop Elio Sgreccia, the vice-president of the Pontifical Academy for Life, condemned the idea saying "the final boundary will have been crossed" in disrespect for the sanctity of human life.

"No one can claim such homicidal responsibility for himself or for another person. No authority can legitimately impose or permit it. This is a violation of divine law, an offense at the dignity of the human person, a crime against a life and an attack against humanity," the papal representative said.

Bishop Sgreccia warned of a "moral relativism" that has "anesthetized society," and said that modern medicine is wrongly focusing on costs rather than the welfare of the patient.

Approved in 2002, Dutch law allows adult patients suffering from incurables diseases to request assisted suicide. Teenagers under the age of 16 must have their parents approval, but the newly proposed law would drop that to 12 years of age.

Bishop Sgreccia's comments, which appeared in the newspaper l'Osservatore Romano, said that children that young can't provide valid consent.

The Vatican official said the Dutch law is rapidly moving away from assisted suicide and towards euthanasia. Many residents of the European nation wear arm bracelets telling doctors not to end their lives prematurely.

Sgreccia said that Catholic teaching on end of life issues and its opposition to euthanasia and assisted suicide is "well known, constantly repeated, and confirmed."

"We must repeat with the utmost firmness that nothing and no one can give permission to kill an innocent human being, whether he be a fetus, an embryo, a child, an adult, an old person or a sick person in incurable agony," wrote Sgreccia.

Expanding on the Catholic Church's pro-life policies on assisted suicide and euthanasia, the Pope in March said that removing the feeding tube of a disabled patient is immoral and amounts to "euthanasia by omission."

Pope John Paul II also said that the lexicon used to describe such patients -- as being in a "vegetative state" was degrading and inhuman.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

There are those who constantly berate George Bush for his faith. Others crusade to remove any mention of God from the public domain. Well here's an example of secularism gone wild.

Securlarist and communist governments have the worlds worst history of brutality and lack of respect for human life. Lenin, Stalin, Mao, the Khmer Rouge were responsible for the deaths of hundreds of millions. Apparently when a people or a government no longer values spiritual principles, they also no longer value human life.

The frightening question that comes to mind is; How long before they start lobbying for the "right" of suicide on request out there on the left coast?


Firstly, the decision applies only to the terminally ill regardless of age. Secondly, the measure requires all other treament regimes to have been tried. Thirdly, it requires the agreement of two physicians that any further treament is futile. Finally it requires the considered and informed request of the individual in facing end of life issues. A child lacks the cognitive development to make such decisions, and the childs parents or guardians may not be able to make such a decision. Keep the child comfortable and let nature take it's course.

<blockquote>"We must repeat with the utmost firmness that nothing and no one can give permission to kill an innocent human being, whether he be a fetus, an embryo, a child, an adult, an old person or a sick person in incurable agony," wrote Sgreccia.</blockquote>

The bishop, mistakenly, assumes that a fetus or embryo are human beings...They are potential human beings. He makes the error of equating the potential with the actual. As for the patient in "incurable agony", despite the best medical treatment, pain can often not be allayed, the disease process cannot be reversed, and decline and death are inevitable. Why should the patient be denied the right to make the decision to end their lives while they are still able to make such a decision? Why should the lenght of their life be the determining factor when the qaulity of their life will be so abyssmal?
 
Bullypulpit said:
A child lacks the cognitive development to make such decisions, and the childs parents or guardians may not be able to make such a decision. Keep the child comfortable and let nature take it's course.

Why should the patient be denied the right to make the decision to end their lives while they are still able to make such a decision? Why should the lenght of their life be the determining factor when the qaulity of their life will be so abyssmal?

What? The child should be denied, and an adult should not right? I will assume that's what you are saying, even though it's not so clear.
 
Bullypulpit said:
The bishop, mistakenly, assumes that a fetus or embryo are human beings...They are potential human beings. He makes the error of equating the potential with the actual.....

Or more likely, it is you that are making the mistaken assumption that a semi developed human being is not a human being at all....
 

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