Dozens of people on FBI terrorist watch list came to D.C. the day of Capitol riot

[Flaylo]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/terror-watchlist-capitol-riot-fbi/2021/01/14/07412814-55f7-11eb-a931-5b162d0d033d_story.html

Dozens of people on a terrorist watch list were in Washington for pro-Trump events Jan. 6, a day that ended in a chaotic crime rampage when a violent mob stormed the U.S. Capitol, according to people familiar with evidence gathered in the FBI’s investigation.

The majority of the watch-listed individuals in Washington that day are suspected white supremacists whose past conduct so alarmed investigators that their names had been previously entered into the national Terrorist Screening Database, or TSDB, a massive set of names flagged as potential security risks, these people said. The watch list is larger and separate from the “no-fly” list the government maintains to prevent terrorism suspects from boarding airplanes, and those listed are not automatically barred from any public or commercial spaces, current and former officials said.

The far right, identified as terrorists by the FBI, but the far right is trying to blame BLM and ANTIFA

 

[pknopp]

Trump could have done away with this unconstitutional list. He did not.

 

[Flaylo]

Trump could have done away with this unconstitutional list. He did not.

It is constitutional, terrorists must be identified and watched

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Hey, it's another monkey throwing poop thread.

We sure haven't had enough of those lately.

 

[bripat9643]

Trump could have done away with this unconstitutional list. He did not.

It is constitutional, terrorists must be identified and watched

Nope. These people haven't committed any crimes. They get put on the list purely by the arbitrary discretion of the FBI.

 

[pknopp]

Trump could have done away with this unconstitutional list. He did not.

It is constitutional, terrorists must be identified and watched

Guilty until you prove yourself innocent but you can't prove yourself innocent because you have no idea that some bureaucrat has deemed you guilty.

 

[Flaylo]

Trump could have done away with this unconstitutional list. He did not.

It is constitutional, terrorists must be identified and watched

Nope. These people haven't committed any crimes. They get put on the list purely by the arbitrary discretion of the FBI.

White supremacists are default terrorists so they need to be watched before they commit a crime, not after, that would be ass backwards

 

[Flaylo]

Trump could have done away with this unconstitutional list. He did not.

It is constitutional, terrorists must be identified and watched

Guilty until you prove yourself innocent but you can't prove yourself innocent because you have no idea that some bureaucrat has deemed you guilty.

They needed to be watched period, and they showed up as some of the insurrectionists

 

[Flaylo]

They are no different from potential criminals from al-Qaida

 

[Papageorgio]

Trump could have done away with this unconstitutional list. He did not.

It is constitutional, terrorists must be identified and watched

Nope. These people haven't committed any crimes. They get put on the list purely by the arbitrary discretion of the FBI.

White supremacists are default terrorists so they need to be watched before they commit a crime, not after, that would be ass backwards

So, guilty until proven innocent?

 

[bripat9643]

Trump could have done away with this unconstitutional list. He did not.

It is constitutional, terrorists must be identified and watched

Nope. These people haven't committed any crimes. They get put on the list purely by the arbitrary discretion of the FBI.

White supremacists are default terrorists so they need to be watched before they commit a crime, not after, that would be ass backwards

Even if that were true, which it isn't, how would that make it constitutional?

 

[bripat9643]

They are no different from potential criminals from al-Qaida

You can't penalize people unless they actually commit a crime, NAZI.

 

[pknopp]

Trump could have done away with this unconstitutional list. He did not.

It is constitutional, terrorists must be identified and watched

Guilty until you prove yourself innocent but you can't prove yourself innocent because you have no idea that some bureaucrat has deemed you guilty.

They needed to be watched period, and they showed up as some of the insurrectionists

There are people on it that have done nothing.

 

[bripat9643]

Trump could have done away with this unconstitutional list. He did not.

It is constitutional, terrorists must be identified and watched

Guilty until you prove yourself innocent but you can't prove yourself innocent because you have no idea that some bureaucrat has deemed you guilty.

They needed to be watched period, and they showed up as some of the insurrectionists

They did? I suppose you have some evidence for that.

 

[DukeU]

White supremacists are default terrorists so they need to be watched before they commit a crime, not after, that would be ass backwards

What's the criteria for being a "white supremacist" and added to the list?

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Trump could have done away with this unconstitutional list. He did not.

It is constitutional, terrorists must be identified and watched

The Fifth Amendment to the Constitution:

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.​

What due process of law is involved in being put on this list and deprived of the liberty to travel?

 

[Bob Blaylock]

White supremacists are default terrorists so they need to be watched before they commit a crime, not after, that would be ass backwards

So, in your Orwellian mind, someone can be treated as a criminal for holding the wrong opinions.

 

[Flaylo]

So because they're white you're saying they must be guilty first?

 

[Mac-7]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/terror-watchlist-capitol-riot-fbi/2021/01/14/07412814-55f7-11eb-a931-5b162d0d033d_story.html

Dozens of people on a terrorist watch list were in Washington for pro-Trump events Jan. 6, a day that ended in a chaotic crime rampage when a violent mob stormed the U.S. Capitol, according to people familiar with evidence gathered in the FBI’s investigation.

The majority of the watch-listed individuals in Washington that day are suspected white supremacists whose past conduct so alarmed investigators that their names had been previously entered into the national Terrorist Screening Database, or TSDB, a massive set of names flagged as potential security risks, these people said. The watch list is larger and separate from the “no-fly” list the government maintains to prevent terrorism suspects from boarding airplanes, and those listed are not automatically barred from any public or commercial spaces, current and former officials said.

The far right, identified as terrorists by the FBI, but the far right is trying to blame BLM and ANTIFA

The FBI are liars

so putting someone on a list means nothing

 

[Mac-7]

What due process of law is involved in being put on this list and deprived of the liberty to travel?

Exactly