Dow futures down 600 points this morning

Golfing Gator Do you really believe the stock market and the economy will flourish again given the policies of the current administration?

Yes, I really the stock market and the economy will flourish again despite the policies of the current or the next administration.

I understand that you all have to blame everything on the current administration, and while he has made things worse than they need to be, much of what we are experiencing would be happening no matter who won the previous election
 
Every time there is a been bear market fall, the doomsday soothsayers are their to predict the end of life as know it. The fact is since the great depression there has never been a bear market that has taken decades to recovery. In fact, Once the S&P 500 does hit the 20% threshold which it has, stocks typically fall by another 12% and it takes the index an average of 95 days to hit the end of a bear market. The recovery on average will takes 2 years to reach the previous high. Some bear markets have recovered to the previous high in less than a year.

Revisit this post 2 years from now.
 
and 2 years from now when it is back up you will claim it is all because the Repubs won in the mid-terms.

Why even bother?

Newsflash, policies do matter and do affect the economy and the stock market.
 
Like I said, broke people tend to be hardcore Democrats. The truth hurts as are most
Your assumptions are based on stereotypes just as most statements on this board. There're 48 million people that are actually members of the democratic party yet in 2020 81 million votes were cast for Biden. So 33 million democratic votes did not come from members of the democrat party. Most of these voters lean left or lean right or don't vote depending on issues and candidates. A similar situation exist is the republican party. The Income level of registered democrats is only about 4% below that of registered republicans. There is no way to know what the income levels are for swing voters or even those that consistently lean left or right.
 
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Take a look at this chart....

Everything is pointing to a rough 23500 mark of averaging out. Buy below that and you will be fine....short the market above that line. Meaning that before that point you definitely need a crash helmet...no crash dummies allowed to take part in this bloodbath.
 
And if you really want to know how much petroleum is really getting outside of phoney fist monetary systems....
Look at the forex exchange....the Dollar is gaining so much strength while others are getting weaker....
Meaning that gasoline is truly much more than $5/gal.
 
Yes, I really the stock market and the economy will flourish again despite the policies of the current or the next administration.

I understand that you all have to blame everything on the current administration, and while he has made things worse than they need to be, much of what we are experiencing would be happening no matter who won the previous election
The real power in controlling the economy rests not with the administration but with the Federal Reserve Board. The administration has tools such as increasing and decreasing government spending which usually requires some act of congress. The positive effects such as economic growth and negatives effects such as inflation is difficult to quantify although most economists agree that increases in goverment spending simulates both growth and inflation.

However, the Federal Reserve Board's control of the economy vs the administration is more like a jackhammer compared to a pickax. All of following tools will decrease or increase the effective money supply either stimulating or depressing the economy.

Changing the Discount interest Rate which is the interest rate a Reserve Bank charges eligible financial institutions to borrow funds on a short-term basis is often used by the Fed. This effects mortgage rates on home buying, borrowing by individuals and businesses. The Fed just raised the discount rate by .75%. It last raised interest rates this much was in 1994. But other tools the fed have are even more powerful.

Open Market Operations which is the Fed’s most frequently used monetary policy tool. This consisted of buying and selling U.S. government securities on the open market, with the aim of aligning the federal funds rate with a publicly announced target set by the Federal Open Market Committee.

Changing Reserve Requirements which is the percent of deposits the banks must set aside as reserves thus decreasing or increasing the amount a bank can loan.

Changing Interest on Reserves which sets a floor beneath the federal funds rate which prevents or allows funds to loaned at lower or higher rate.

Nontraditional and Crisis Tools When faced with severe disruptions, the Fed can turn to additional tools to support financial markets and the economy.

Taken as whole, the FED has tremendous power when it comes to stimulatingly the economy or lowering inflation. Although major moves by the FED are almost almost always effective, they can go to far either creating a recession or increasing inflation. The appointment of the Chairmen of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve and it's governors is probably the most important act a president has in controlling the economy.
 
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Newsflash, policies do matter and do affect the economy and the stock market.
Of course policies can effect the market because they lead to projections of higher or lower earning. However, whether those projections hold depend on a lot of factors. Some policies such as those that will lead to military actions can have both a positive and negative effects on the market. The same is true for other large government spending programs which can stimulated retail sales which are positive for the market but they can also create a need for tax increases which are negative.
 
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Your assumptions are based on stereotypes just as most statements on this board. There're 48 million people that are actually members of the democratic party yet in 2020 81 million votes were cast for Biden. So 33 million democratic votes did not come from members of the democrat party. Most of these voters lean left or lean right or don't vote depending on issues and candidates. A similar situation exist is the republican party. The Income level of registered democrats is only about 4% below that of registered republicans. There is no way to know what the income levels are for swing voters or even those that consistently lean left or right.

Forget the averages as they are skewed by delusional very high wage earners in large urban areas. Go to a ghetto or the vast majority of low income areas in the neighborhoods and you will find an overwhelming number of Democratic voters, if they vote at all. This is exactly why Democrats want to bus people to the polls and why they don't want voter id. They know their constituency. The least responsible in our country vote for Democrats. That is not to say that there aren't some responsible or wealthy Democrats nor some irresponsible, poor Republicans. Higher earning white collar workers, particularly those NOT in large urban centers are very Republican. In my red state, these are the voting demographics.
 
Forget the averages as they are skewed by delusional very high wage earners in large urban areas. Go to a ghetto or the vast majority of low income areas in the neighborhoods and you will find an overwhelming number of Democratic voters, if they vote at all. This is exactly why Democrats want to bus people to the polls and why they don't want voter id. They know their constituency. The least responsible in our country vote for Democrats. That is not to say that there aren't some responsible or wealthy Democrats nor some irresponsible, poor Republicans. Higher earning white collar workers, particularly those NOT in large urban centers are very Republican. In my red state, these are the voting demographics.
First of all 66% of voters, republicans or democrats get to the polls by car. Another 30% get to polling places by walking or public transportation. The remaining 4% get rides on private buses vans, etc...

For your information most busing to polling places is not in low income housing in cites because of high population density there are almost always polling places nearby. Most private busing is used to transport people who live in rural areas or in senior housing regardless of their voting preferences. However, individuals, churches and civil groups often give rides to voters in cars, vans, and buses regardless of their politics. In some cites public transportation to polls are available at no cost.

Democrat busing vast numbers of poor voters to the polls is mostly a stereotype whose roots lie the South in the 60's when polling places and registrar offices were located far from black neighborhoods. Civil rights workers would load up buses with blacks and drive them to get registered and to polling places to vote.
 
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