Doubling State’s 1,100 Wind Turbines Won’t Replace This One Coal/Gas Plant ( Michigan)

[ThunderKiss1965]

America has slightly over 400 coal plants. That means it would take about 800,000 wind turbines to replace all of our coal fire power plants. Just imagine how many birds they would slaughter every year. And they still require 100% backup!

Doubling State’s 1,100 Wind Turbines Won’t Replace This One Coal/Gas Plant

Michigan’s electric utilities gamble that the reliability of service won’t collapse.

Consumers Energy would have to double the number of wind turbines currently operating in this state to replace the electricity produced by just one of the coal- and gas-fired power plants it intends to close as part of its plans to rely more on renewable sources. The problem, however, is that those additional turbines only spin about one-third of the time, leaving a big energy gap for the households and businesses that rely on the company for their electricity.

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regulated utilities and their vendors operate 1,107 industrial wind turbines in Michigan. These can produce 1,925.3 megawatts of electricity, but only when the wind is blowing. ​

Sorry, but you can't spin getting rid of coal plants as a bad thing. It's not.

'Coal is on the way out': study finds fossil fuel now pricier than solar or wind

Riiiiight.
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[skews13]

America has slightly over 400 coal plants. That means it would take about 800,000 wind turbines to replace all of our coal fire power plants. Just imagine how many birds they would slaughter every year. And they still require 100% backup!

Doubling State’s 1,100 Wind Turbines Won’t Replace This One Coal/Gas Plant

Michigan’s electric utilities gamble that the reliability of service won’t collapse.

Consumers Energy would have to double the number of wind turbines currently operating in this state to replace the electricity produced by just one of the coal- and gas-fired power plants it intends to close as part of its plans to rely more on renewable sources. The problem, however, is that those additional turbines only spin about one-third of the time, leaving a big energy gap for the households and businesses that rely on the company for their electricity.

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regulated utilities and their vendors operate 1,107 industrial wind turbines in Michigan. These can produce 1,925.3 megawatts of electricity, but only when the wind is blowing. ​

Sorry, but you can't spin getting rid of coal plants as a bad thing. It's not.

'Coal is on the way out': study finds fossil fuel now pricier than solar or wind

LOL.....that link has been posted a billion times in here. Its fake. Fails to factor in many related costs such as the building of transmission lines which is astronomical. Which of course is why most countries, like China for example are building coal plants at a rate of 2-3 per month for the next ten years! TEN YEARS!! Because it is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay cheaper.

Coal might be on the way out...…..but it will be out many years after every person posting on this message board is in their box for a long, long time!!!

You're an idiot. In the 1% of idiots.

As someone who has been in the electrical industry for 40 years, let me educate you on a couple of things here idiot.

Not a single transmission line needs to be installed, to incorporate the voltage generated from any source. That is done at individual substations that tap into already existing distribution cables.

Coal fired generation is currently accounts for 27.4% of all generation in the country as of 2018, down from 52.8% from 1997. Coal is being largely replaced by natural gas which will account for 80% of all electrical generation by 2035. Renewable sources will account for 18%.

That's commercial generation. By that same time frame, what's known as zero net energy homes will increase by 44.5 % annually by 2035, and all commercial buildings by then will require some form of net zero construction in local codes.

The future of electrical generation, and power usage will be renewables, and natural gas in the US, and that's with the technology we have now. Nobody knows what will be invented or developed by then, that will change the course of power usage in the next century.

 

[Wyatt earp]

America has slightly over 400 coal plants. That means it would take about 800,000 wind turbines to replace all of our coal fire power plants. Just imagine how many birds they would slaughter every year. And they still require 100% backup!

Doubling State’s 1,100 Wind Turbines Won’t Replace This One Coal/Gas Plant

Michigan’s electric utilities gamble that the reliability of service won’t collapse.

Consumers Energy would have to double the number of wind turbines currently operating in this state to replace the electricity produced by just one of the coal- and gas-fired power plants it intends to close as part of its plans to rely more on renewable sources. The problem, however, is that those additional turbines only spin about one-third of the time, leaving a big energy gap for the households and businesses that rely on the company for their electricity.

..

regulated utilities and their vendors operate 1,107 industrial wind turbines in Michigan. These can produce 1,925.3 megawatts of electricity, but only when the wind is blowing. ​

Sorry, but you can't spin getting rid of coal plants as a bad thing. It's not.

'Coal is on the way out': study finds fossil fuel now pricier than solar or wind

LOL.....that link has been posted a billion times in here. Its fake. Fails to factor in many related costs such as the building of transmission lines which is astronomical. Which of course is why most countries, like China for example are building coal plants at a rate of 2-3 per month for the next ten years! TEN YEARS!! Because it is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay cheaper.

Coal might be on the way out...…..but it will be out many years after every person posting on this message board is in their box for a long, long time!!!

You're an idiot. In the 1% of idiots.

As someone who has been in the electrical industry for 40 years, let me educate you on a couple of things here idiot.

Not a single transmission line needs to be installed, to incorporate the voltage generated from any source. That is done at individual substations that tap into already existing distribution cables.

Coal fired generation is currently accounts for 27.4% of all generation in the country as of 2018, down from 52.8% from 1997. Coal is being largely replaced by natural gas which will account for 80% of all electrical generation by 2035. Renewable sources will account for 18%.

That's commercial generation. By that same time frame, what's known as zero net energy homes will increase by 44.5 % annually by 2035, and all commercial buildings by then will require some form of net zero construction in local codes.

The future of electrical generation, and power usage will be renewables, and natural gas in the US, and that's with the technology we have now. Nobody knows what will be invented or developed by then, that will change the course of power usage in the next century.

As a former industrial maintenance guy all you did was post word salad.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

America has slightly over 400 coal plants. That means it would take about 800,000 wind turbines to replace all of our coal fire power plants. Just imagine how many birds they would slaughter every year. And they still require 100% backup!

Doubling State’s 1,100 Wind Turbines Won’t Replace This One Coal/Gas Plant

Michigan’s electric utilities gamble that the reliability of service won’t collapse.

Consumers Energy would have to double the number of wind turbines currently operating in this state to replace the electricity produced by just one of the coal- and gas-fired power plants it intends to close as part of its plans to rely more on renewable sources. The problem, however, is that those additional turbines only spin about one-third of the time, leaving a big energy gap for the households and businesses that rely on the company for their electricity.

..

regulated utilities and their vendors operate 1,107 industrial wind turbines in Michigan. These can produce 1,925.3 megawatts of electricity, but only when the wind is blowing. ​

I smell bullshit.
Let's just fact check one data point:

Only the coal powered genrators are scheduled for retirement by 2031. Their capacity is 544 MW. List of power stations in Michigan - Wikipedia

So, the entire article is a pile of shit. Which I immediately figured, given the source.

You have a math problem:

Michigan had a total summer capacity of 29,831 MW through all of its power plants

As of 2017, 37% of that is from coal 29,831 X 0.37 = 11,037 mw.​

That has nothing to do with a word i said. The wingnut article you posted is a pile of shit.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

America has slightly over 400 coal plants. That means it would take about 800,000 wind turbines to replace all of our coal fire power plants. Just imagine how many birds they would slaughter every year. And they still require 100% backup!

Doubling State’s 1,100 Wind Turbines Won’t Replace This One Coal/Gas Plant

Michigan’s electric utilities gamble that the reliability of service won’t collapse.

Consumers Energy would have to double the number of wind turbines currently operating in this state to replace the electricity produced by just one of the coal- and gas-fired power plants it intends to close as part of its plans to rely more on renewable sources. The problem, however, is that those additional turbines only spin about one-third of the time, leaving a big energy gap for the households and businesses that rely on the company for their electricity.

..

regulated utilities and their vendors operate 1,107 industrial wind turbines in Michigan. These can produce 1,925.3 megawatts of electricity, but only when the wind is blowing. ​

Sorry, but you can't spin getting rid of coal plants as a bad thing. It's not.

'Coal is on the way out': study finds fossil fuel now pricier than solar or wind

LOL.....that link has been posted a billion times in here. Its fake. Fails to factor in many related costs such as the building of transmission lines which is astronomical. Which of course is why most countries, like China for example are building coal plants at a rate of 2-3 per month for the next ten years! TEN YEARS!! Because it is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay cheaper.

Coal might be on the way out...…..but it will be out many years after every person posting on this message board is in their box for a long, long time!!!

You're an idiot. In the 1% of idiots.

As someone who has been in the electrical industry for 40 years, let me educate you on a couple of things here idiot.

Not a single transmission line needs to be installed, to incorporate the voltage generated from any source. That is done at individual substations that tap into already existing distribution cables.

Coal fired generation is currently accounts for 27.4% of all generation in the country as of 2018, down from 52.8% from 1997. Coal is being largely replaced by natural gas which will account for 80% of all electrical generation by 2035. Renewable sources will account for 18%.

That's commercial generation. By that same time frame, what's known as zero net energy homes will increase by 44.5 % annually by 2035, and all commercial buildings by then will require some form of net zero construction in local codes.

The future of electrical generation, and power usage will be renewables, and natural gas in the US, and that's with the technology we have now. Nobody knows what will be invented or developed by then, that will change the course of power usage in the next century.

As a former industrial maintenance guy all you did was post word salad.

In other words,you didn't read it.

 

[bripat9643]

America has slightly over 400 coal plants. That means it would take about 800,000 wind turbines to replace all of our coal fire power plants. Just imagine how many birds they would slaughter every year. And they still require 100% backup!

Doubling State’s 1,100 Wind Turbines Won’t Replace This One Coal/Gas Plant

Michigan’s electric utilities gamble that the reliability of service won’t collapse.

Consumers Energy would have to double the number of wind turbines currently operating in this state to replace the electricity produced by just one of the coal- and gas-fired power plants it intends to close as part of its plans to rely more on renewable sources. The problem, however, is that those additional turbines only spin about one-third of the time, leaving a big energy gap for the households and businesses that rely on the company for their electricity.

..

regulated utilities and their vendors operate 1,107 industrial wind turbines in Michigan. These can produce 1,925.3 megawatts of electricity, but only when the wind is blowing. ​

I smell bullshit.
Let's just fact check one data point:

Only the coal powered generators are scheduled for retirement by 2031. Their capacity is 544 MW. List of power stations in Michigan - Wikipedia

So, the entire article is a pile of shit. Which I immediately figured, given the source.

You have a math problem:

Michigan had a total summer capacity of 29,831 MW through all of its power plants

As of 2017, 37% of that is from coal 29,831 X 0.37 = 11,037 mw.​

That has nothing to do with a word i said. The wingnut article you posted is a pile of shit.

Allow me to quote: You said the following:

Their capacity is 544 MW. That claim is clearly wrong. So is the rest of your post.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Their capacity is 544 MW. That claim is clearly wrong.

No, that is 100% accurate. You really have reading comprehension issues.

 

[bripat9643]

Their capacity is 544 MW. That claim is clearly wrong.

No, that is 100% accurate. You really have reading comprehension issues.

I just showed you that the total output of all coal fired power plants is 11,000 MW, not 544 MW.