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Newsmax.com


Jeb Bush to GOP: Don't Become 'Democrat-Lite'
Sunday, November 30, 2008 4:20 PM

By: David A. Patten




Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush tells Newsmax that the GOP must broaden its appeal to avoid becoming “the old white-guy party,” and recommends that Republicans create a “shadow government” to engage Democrats on important issues as the incoming Obama administration seeks to enact its agenda.

In a wide-ranging interview with Newsmax, the popular former governor and younger brother of President George W. Bush said the 2008 election was neither “transformational” nor a landslide. For example, he noted that Barack Obama's significant fundraising advantage over John McCain played a key role in Democratic success this year.

[To see full video, go here now]

Bush urged Republicans not to abandon their core conservative principles in favor of a "Democratic-lite" agenda. Still, the GOP does need to do some real soul-searching, he said.

“If you take the [last] two election cycles, there’s real cause for concern, no question about it,” he said.

There is good news for Republicans, Bush said: The United States remains “basically a center-right country.” He cited President-elect Barack Obama’s stance on taxes as an example.

“Who would have thought the so-called liberal candidate would be the one advocating tax cuts, and attacking the Republican candidate for tax hikes — which wasn’t true, but was effective when you consider he was outspending Sen. McCain by five to one.”

Bush, considered one of the most successful governors in modern Florida history, gives Democrats kudos for their effectiveness in registering voters. That should be a lesson to the GOP, he said.

“Go back to the blocking and tackling, and not assume that you can just pontificate,” said Bush, who frequently is mentioned as a top-tier GOP presidential prospect.

“You’ve got to do the hard work. That means grass-roots organization. It means listening to the base of the party. It means voter registration. It means turn-out operations. It means recruiting candidates that look like the population we’re trying to attract to our cause. Those things seem to have waned in the last couple years.”

Perhaps most importantly, Bush said, the party must confront the nation’s changing demographics.

“We can’t ignore large segments of our population and expect to win,” Bush said. “We can’t be the ‘old white-guy’ party. It’s just not going to work, the demographics go against us in that regard.

“Among Hispanic voters, I think we need to change the tone of the conversation as it relates to immigration. In Florida, we’ve not participated much in the chest pounding and the yelling and the screaming. I mean, it just drives me nuts when there are substantive policy differences that we can show mutual respect on, but the tone needs to change. And I think we need to recruit more candidates who share our values in the Hispanic community. In Florida we’ve done that.”

Indeed, Bush, who is fluent in Spanish and married to a Mexican-American, carried over 56 percent of the Florida’s non-Cuban Hispanic vote when he won re-election to the Florida statehouse in 2002. His popularity among GOP-leaning Cuban-Americans was even higher.

Bush’s other advice on where the GOP should go from here:


The party should establish a loyal opposition and “organize ourselves in the form of a shadow government” that would address key issues, providing the public with “a loftier debate about policy” rather than mere partisanship.


On the state and local level, Bush says the GOP should demonstrate “a passion for reform.”


The party must hold fast to its convictions. “We can’t be Democrat-lite. We can’t just ‘get along,’” he told Newsmax. “We have to actually be proposing solutions to what appear to be intractable problems as it relates to education, healthcare, infrastructure. Across the board there are ways that we can show that we are truly on the side of the people that are concerned about the future of the country, without abandoning our principles.”


Bush cited Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal as “a great example of a governor who is leading by example, and has a passion for reform. That should be the model across the country.”

Bush also offered Obama advice on one of his favorite issues, education: “Obama should defy his core constituency. He should take on the teachers’ union and be on the side of disadvantaged families who send their kids to schools that almost assure that their children will not have the same opportunities that were afforded them. That is an un-American situation, and there’s much that can be done to narrow the achievement gap.

“Part of it means we may need to restructure how we educate kids. We need to use technology. We need to pay for performance for teachers. We need to eliminate tenure. We need to focus early on the fact that we have these huge achievement gaps. We need much more accountability, we need more school choice.

“And if Senator Obama led that charge, there would be truly a transformation in education, and I for one would be a strong supporter in that regard,” Bush said.

On the economy, Bush said Obama should reconsider his plans to raise taxes.

“His advisers can’t be telling him it’s a great idea to raise taxes, it’s a great idea to raise the capital gains tax, it’s a great idea to raise marginal rates. They can’t be telling him that in this very, very perilous economic time that we’re in,” Bush said.

On a personal note, Bush told Newsmax that he wouldn’t be surprised if his father, former President H.W. Bush, jumps out of a plane when he turns 85 in June.

“He likes going fast in boats and he likes jumping out of planes,” he said of his father. “I can’t explain it, but there’s nothing I can do about it!”

Bush added, “Whenever I get a chance, I always ask him about his life, because it’s just been a spectacular life. If I could be half the man my dad has been, I would consider myself having a really privileged life.”

[To see full video, go here now]
 
Interesting article, I wonder if Jeb is trying to position himself for some kind of national political future in 2012. Hopefully not. It will be interesting to see if some of his thoughts end up happening.
 
Obama beat McCain by 8 million votes and/or 7% of the popular vote not to mention over 192 more electroal votes...I'm not sure what he constitutes as a landslide :cuckoo:


I do have to :lol: at the fact that his brother totally fucked this country and now HE thinks he's the one to give advice? that's hysterical....he should've been talking to his bro all these years...

and "shadow government" he can't be for real or maybe he can...he's a Bush after all.
 
Newsmax.com – Jeb Bush to GOP: Don't Become 'Democrat-Lite'



Newsmax.com


Jeb Bush to GOP: Don't Become 'Democrat-Lite'
Sunday, November 30, 2008 4:20 PM

By: David A. Patten




Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush tells Newsmax that the GOP must broaden its appeal to avoid becoming “the old white-guy party,” and recommends that Republicans create a “shadow government” to engage Democrats on important issues as the incoming Obama administration seeks to enact its agenda.

In a wide-ranging interview with Newsmax, the popular former governor and younger brother of President George W. Bush said the 2008 election was neither “transformational” nor a landslide. For example, he noted that Barack Obama's significant fundraising advantage over John McCain played a key role in Democratic success this year.

[To see full video, go here now]

Bush urged Republicans not to abandon their core conservative principles in favor of a "Democratic-lite" agenda. Still, the GOP does need to do some real soul-searching, he said.

“If you take the [last] two election cycles, there’s real cause for concern, no question about it,” he said.

There is good news for Republicans, Bush said: The United States remains “basically a center-right country.” He cited President-elect Barack Obama’s stance on taxes as an example.

“Who would have thought the so-called liberal candidate would be the one advocating tax cuts, and attacking the Republican candidate for tax hikes — which wasn’t true, but was effective when you consider he was outspending Sen. McCain by five to one.”

Bush, considered one of the most successful governors in modern Florida history, gives Democrats kudos for their effectiveness in registering voters. That should be a lesson to the GOP, he said.

“Go back to the blocking and tackling, and not assume that you can just pontificate,” said Bush, who frequently is mentioned as a top-tier GOP presidential prospect.

“You’ve got to do the hard work. That means grass-roots organization. It means listening to the base of the party. It means voter registration. It means turn-out operations. It means recruiting candidates that look like the population we’re trying to attract to our cause. Those things seem to have waned in the last couple years.”

Perhaps most importantly, Bush said, the party must confront the nation’s changing demographics.

“We can’t ignore large segments of our population and expect to win,” Bush said. “We can’t be the ‘old white-guy’ party. It’s just not going to work, the demographics go against us in that regard.

“Among Hispanic voters, I think we need to change the tone of the conversation as it relates to immigration. In Florida, we’ve not participated much in the chest pounding and the yelling and the screaming. I mean, it just drives me nuts when there are substantive policy differences that we can show mutual respect on, but the tone needs to change. And I think we need to recruit more candidates who share our values in the Hispanic community. In Florida we’ve done that.”

Indeed, Bush, who is fluent in Spanish and married to a Mexican-American, carried over 56 percent of the Florida’s non-Cuban Hispanic vote when he won re-election to the Florida statehouse in 2002. His popularity among GOP-leaning Cuban-Americans was even higher.

Bush’s other advice on where the GOP should go from here:


The party should establish a loyal opposition and “organize ourselves in the form of a shadow government” that would address key issues, providing the public with “a loftier debate about policy” rather than mere partisanship.


On the state and local level, Bush says the GOP should demonstrate “a passion for reform.”


The party must hold fast to its convictions. “We can’t be Democrat-lite. We can’t just ‘get along,’” he told Newsmax. “We have to actually be proposing solutions to what appear to be intractable problems as it relates to education, healthcare, infrastructure. Across the board there are ways that we can show that we are truly on the side of the people that are concerned about the future of the country, without abandoning our principles.”


Bush cited Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal as “a great example of a governor who is leading by example, and has a passion for reform. That should be the model across the country.”

Bush also offered Obama advice on one of his favorite issues, education: “Obama should defy his core constituency. He should take on the teachers’ union and be on the side of disadvantaged families who send their kids to schools that almost assure that their children will not have the same opportunities that were afforded them. That is an un-American situation, and there’s much that can be done to narrow the achievement gap.

“Part of it means we may need to restructure how we educate kids. We need to use technology. We need to pay for performance for teachers. We need to eliminate tenure. We need to focus early on the fact that we have these huge achievement gaps. We need much more accountability, we need more school choice.

“And if Senator Obama led that charge, there would be truly a transformation in education, and I for one would be a strong supporter in that regard,” Bush said.

On the economy, Bush said Obama should reconsider his plans to raise taxes.

“His advisers can’t be telling him it’s a great idea to raise taxes, it’s a great idea to raise the capital gains tax, it’s a great idea to raise marginal rates. They can’t be telling him that in this very, very perilous economic time that we’re in,” Bush said.

On a personal note, Bush told Newsmax that he wouldn’t be surprised if his father, former President H.W. Bush, jumps out of a plane when he turns 85 in June.

“He likes going fast in boats and he likes jumping out of planes,” he said of his father. “I can’t explain it, but there’s nothing I can do about it!”

Bush added, “Whenever I get a chance, I always ask him about his life, because it’s just been a spectacular life. If I could be half the man my dad has been, I would consider myself having a really privileged life.”

[To see full video, go here now]


Americans are dumb and just like they forgot that HW Bush sucked and they elected his dumb fuck son, they'll forget how bad GW was and Jeb will be a strong contender in 2012. It's pathetic really.

I love this line: Bush, considered one of the most successful governors in modern Florida history

Can anyone not living in Florida name another Florida governor? So BFD!

And I don't agree that America remains center right. I think 45% of us are center left, 35% center right, 10% are neocons and 10% are flaming lefty liberals.
 
Obama beat McCain by 8 million votes and/or 7% of the popular vote not to mention over 192 more electroal votes...I'm not sure what he constitutes as a landslide :cuckoo:


I do have to :lol: at the fact that his brother totally fucked this country and now HE thinks he's the one to give advice? that's hysterical....he should've been talking to his bro all these years...

and "shadow government" he can't be for real or maybe he can...he's a Bush after all.

Wow, your comments look like something I would say. I love it!

And they already run a shadow government. It's called the Federal Reserve.

And Bobby Jindal can suck my dick! I'm so sick of hearing about that Indian. Good luck running him for President. The GOP want to outsource everything to India.
 
I'm center left but only cuz I broke my foot and it causes me to walk with a slight limp otherwise I'd be totally center :lol:
 
Obama beat McCain by 8 million votes and/or 7% of the popular vote not to mention over 192 more electroal votes...I'm not sure what he constitutes as a landslide :cuckoo:

Even though Obama did beat McCain solidly, I wouldn't consider it a landslide.

1980 Reagen beat out Mondale by almost 20 million votes and had 525 Electoral Votes


In the end Obama did win easily, but lets not forget that almost 60 million people voted for McCain. That isn't exactly a small number
 
Even though Obama did beat McCain solidly, I wouldn't consider it a landslide.

1980 Reagen beat out Mondale by almost 20 million votes and had 525 Electoral Votes


In the end Obama did win easily, but lets not forget that almost 60 million people voted for McCain. That isn't exactly a small number

It was a landslide.

How many red states turned blue?

How many blue went red? Zero?

He could have walked on water and he was never going to win W. Virginia or any of those other retarded red states.
 
I'm center left but only cuz I broke my foot and it causes me to walk with a slight limp otherwise I'd be totally center :lol:

I'm pro gay, pro abortion, pro stem cell.

But I'm also pro gun and anti illegal immigration.

But I certainly lean left.
 
Even though Obama did beat McCain solidly, I wouldn't consider it a landslide.

1980 Reagen beat out Mondale by almost 20 million votes and had 525 Electoral Votes


In the end Obama did win easily, but lets not forget that almost 60 million people voted for McCain. That isn't exactly a small number

no not a small number but Obama beat McCain by a wider margin than his brother won either of his elections so I wouldn't scoff at it if I were him.

Reagan trounced Mondale that's for sure.
 
Even though Obama did beat McCain solidly, I wouldn't consider it a landslide.

1980 Reagen beat out Mondale by almost 20 million votes and had 525 Electoral Votes


In the end Obama did win easily, but lets not forget that almost 60 million people voted for McCain. That isn't exactly a small number

Don't forget he was a black muslim who pals around with terrorists. His middle name is HUSSAIN for christ sakes!

It was as big of a landslide as could ever be imagined.
 
no not a small number but Obama beat McCain by a wider margin than his brother won either of his elections so I wouldn't scoff at it if I were him.

Reagan trounced Mondale that's for sure.

They had a documentary on PBS about Lee Atwater. If it weren't for Lee, Reagan wouldn't have even got past Bob Dole. Lee was Reagan's Karl Rove.

Rove's own mentor, Lee Atwater, famously repudiated his own savage campaign tactics before he died of brain cancer. Atwater said:

In 1988, fighting Dukakis, I said that I 'would strip the bark off the little bastard' and 'make Willie Horton his running mate.' I am sorry for both statements: the first for its naked cruelty, the second because it makes me sound racist, which I am not. Mostly I am sorry for the way I thought of other people. Like a good general, I had treated everyone who wasn't with me as against me.
 
I'm center left but only cuz I broke my foot and it causes me to walk with a slight limp otherwise I'd be totally center :lol:

Even Karl Rove knows America leans left:

Haunted by the resignation of Richard Nixon and by what, in his paranoia, he saw as the cultural dominance of the Left, Rove thought he'd slayed the liberal dragon that had burned him in adolescence. All those smug, partying hippies who mocked his nerdy ilk finally got the damnation they deserved in 2000.

Firedoglake » Year of Reckoning: 2008 is when Karl Rove’s “genius” is measured

So even Rove understands there is a cultural dominance of the left.
 
Yea, well according to you, we weren't in a recession this year. :cuckoo:

Washington Times - U.S. officially in recession since 2007

U.S. officially in recession since 2007

So either you are a liar :eusa_liar:or dumb:cuckoo:.

In the article, it doesn't state two consecutive periods (quarters, 3-month period) of negative growth. Explain the positive growth (they mention stimulus package passed in Washington) in Q1 and Q2 and i'll tell you 2007 Q4 (Dec 2007) is false (Q4 experienced -2%, however the next period experienced 0.9%). If the recession starts, it's going to be reported in Mar 2009 after 2008 Q4 and 2009 Q1 shows the negative sign.

Read the following set of numbers

0.5 2.5 -2.3 1.2 = not a recession
-0.3 1.0 -1.1 2.2 = not a recession
4.3 5.3 -3.2 -0.1 = a recession

From economics: The technical indicator of a recession is two consecutive quarters of negative economic growth as measured by a country's gross domestic product (GDP). <--My basis to conservation i initiated a day ago. Of course, you can change my wording. After all, you follow people who change stories. I bet you bought Bush's national guard papers. Oh wait, why in the hell idiots fall for that. All they had to do was point out the obvious: Bush shouldn't be commandeer in chief/president. However, we had a choice between Bush and Kerry (because i disagree with everything you say, i must have voted for Bush.) Never a third party choice. Always the same two party. Name the last president who wasn't a Democrat or Republican?

So sealybobo, who did i vote for in 2004? Kerry or Bush. Sealybobo, did i support the war in Iraq in 2004? Because the answer would be Kerry and hell no. Pre-tense to war = not adequate to start one.
 
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LOL I knew this one would be a good one to toos on here when I ran across it.
 
In the article, it doesn't state two consecutive periods (quarters, 3-month period) of negative growth. Explain the positive growth (they mention stimulus package passed in Washington) in Q1 and Q2 and i'll tell you 2007 Q4 (Dec 2007) is false (Q4 experienced -2%, however the next period experienced 0.9%). If the recession starts, it's going to be reported in Mar 2009 after 2008 Q4 and 2009 Q1 shows the negative sign.

Read the following set of numbers

0.5 2.5 -2.3 1.2 = not a recession
-0.3 1.0 -1.1 2.2 = not a recession
4.3 5.3 -3.2 -0.1 = a recession

From economics: The technical indicator of a recession is two consecutive quarters of negative economic growth as measured by a country's gross domestic product (GDP). <--My basis to conservation i initiated a day ago. Of course, you can change my wording. After all, you follow people who change stories. I bet you bought Bush's national guard papers. Oh wait, why in the hell idiots fall for that. All they had to do was point out the obvious: Bush shouldn't be commandeer in chief/president. However, we had a choice between Bush and Kerry (because i disagree with everything you say, i must have voted for Bush.) Never a third party choice. Always the same two party. Name the last president who wasn't a Democrat or Republican?

So sealybobo, who did i vote for in 2004? Kerry or Bush. Sealybobo, did i support the war in Iraq in 2004? Because the answer would be Kerry and hell no. Pre-tense to war = not adequate to start one.


A common definition of a recession is a period when the nation's gross domestic product shrinks for two consecutive quarters, but the committee noted that GDP figures have been erratic this time around. GDP fell in the final quarter of 2007 but then rose in the first half of 2008 before falling again in the third quarter of this year.

The committee defines a recession as "a significant decline in economic activity spread across the economy, lasting more than a few months, normally visible in production, employment, real income and other indicators."

The decision on the recession means that during the eight years that Bush has been in office, the country has seen two recessions. The first downturn lasted from March 2001 until November of that year.

It's official: U.S. is in recession - Economy in Turmoil- msnbc.com
 
A common definition of a recession is a period when the nation's gross domestic product shrinks for two consecutive quarters, but the committee noted that GDP figures have been erratic this time around. GDP fell in the final quarter of 2007 but then rose in the first half of 2008 before falling again in the third quarter of this year.

The committee defines a recession as "a significant decline in economic activity spread across the economy, lasting more than a few months, normally visible in production, employment, real income and other indicators."

The decision on the recession means that during the eight years that Bush has been in office, the country has seen two recessions. The first downturn lasted from March 2001 until November of that year.

It's official: U.S. is in recession - Economy in Turmoil- msnbc.com

http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/national/gdp/gdphighlights.pdf

One more quarter and its official according to the technical definition of recession. It's going to happen. And you should be thankful being that economic downturn means Democrats win election (conspiracy?).

Do you know the economy goes through cycles? Contraction (like we are seeing right now) / Expansion (what happened 1993-2001; 2002 - 2007). The first recession during this decade was attributed to Bush? the Dot Com bubble (no, not y2k)? 9-11? My guesstimation would say: you blame Bush. After all, he gave tax cuts to the rich (forget the other marginal tax brackets in the tax code dropped). He increased spending (he's such a fiscal conservative, i bet he conserved by increasing the deficit). He won the election in 2004 (imagine if they we didn't vote republican or democrat every election year, our country is better off).
 

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