Donald Trump might go down in history as the greatest president of all time

[surada]

You based that on your desire to suck his cock as he never said what you claim he was thinking. You just can't help yourself but defend that piece of shit. He said there were very fine people on the side which was comprised by racists who organized, sponsored, arranged, participated and attended that event.

He explicitly stated that he was referring to the sides of the issue of HISTORICAL STATUES,


and explicitly EXCLUDED THE WS.


The crux of the issue is your side's pretense that only ws would support the historical statues.



But even in the world view of that premise, that still does not justify the bald faced lie about what he actually said.


AND, my point about what the lie reveals about your side stands.


You would not lie like that, and defend it to the death, if you really believed the shit you claim to believe.

[video]

 

[Correll]

There has not been massive fraud enough to change the outcome of a presidential election.

How the fuck could you possibly know that? You couldn't know that. Nobody could. So you're just making shit up (as usual).

Of course we know. It was investigated by Twice Impeached Trump’s own Department of Justice.

“to date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election.” ~ William Barr, former Attorney General​

Which is dumb. It is silly to think that all fraud was found.


The point is the widespread fraud is done for a reason. TO effect an outcome in the election.


Evidence of widespread fraud indicates the need for more information.

That’s the point. There is zero evidence of widespread fraud. Zero!

Funny. The quote was that there was not evidence of enough fraud to swing the election.

Yet you either failed to read that properly or your brain lied to you, (confirmation bias) to protect your fragile world view.


My point stands. The point of fraud is to swing the election. If we see evidence of fraud, then an investigation to see how much more there was that was not found, in the rushed initial look, is reasonable.


Just assuming that what you see is all there is, is madness.


This country is like a man waking in bed and seeing smoke building up on the ceiling, and going back to sleep because, just a little smoke, is not proof of fire somewhere.

There wasn't enough fraud to swing the election, period. You

You don't even have smoke. The evidence of fraud doesn't even amount to a lit cigarette which is why Trump and his merry band of whacked out "lawyers" had over 60 chances to provide evidence and could not.

You fell for the big lie.

Which is not what he said. He said there was not EVIDENCE of enough fraud to swing the election.


SO, just ignore that little bit of smoke on the ceiling. Go back to sleep. It is not enough smoke to be dangerous.

Right. A cigarette is burning and you want to call it a four alarm fire. There was no more more fraud this election than any other in recent history. Trump lost a free and fair election then lied about it to his slurping sycophants like you and you lapped it up.

I want a real investigation. And to stop the new rules, that certainly look like they were designed to make it easier for commit fraud.

You want an investigation based on a lie so it’s all bullshit. The new rules were for Covid and no other reason. There was no wide spread fraud enough to change the outcome. The worst president in modern history lost. I don’t get why you guys are so surprised by this.

1. So, you dems going to change the rules back?

2. HOw do you know that?

3. Trump had a fine economy and no new wars, until covid hit. That was far better than a lot of modern presidents can say. Your claim otherwise is just more lying from you.

4. Who said I am surprised? I have been aware of the whole point of Third World Immigration and massive propaganda for decades.

1. Maybe, maybe not. Some of the changes made sense and worked. Ballots postmarked on Election Day should be counted beyond election day. California normally gives three days. We gave longer this last time due to COVID and Trump intentionally screwing with the Post Office. Other changes that should be kept include no excuse Vote by Mail, eliminate this "absentee" bullshit altogether. States or counties that went Universal Vote by Mail should keep it if they liked it. I know my county did. We had our first in 2017 and sign ups for permanent Vote by Mail skyrocketed.

2. I know that because there is no evidence of it. There is more evidence of ghosts, bigfoot, the Loch Ness monster and UFOs than there is of widespread fraud. American elections are very secure. We should be proud of our system. I am proud of our system. This was my 4th presidential election working in an Election Office. Smoothest one ever, despite one of the highest turnouts ever.

3. He did have a fine economy thanks to his predecessor...then he fucked it up. We could be on the road to recovery like other countries but Trump botched the response. It's what cost him a second term.

4. Way to blame someone else for Trump being a horrible person and a worse President. So much for the party of "personal responsibility" .

1. Got it. You want to keep the new rules that make cheating easier.

2. Nope. The quote was that there was not evidence of enough cheating to swing the election.

3. He inherited a fine economy that was coming to the end of the normal business cycle. He extended it, and in such a way that wages were showing some excellent movement upwards, especially for the working poor. And he did not botch the response. The numbers were artificially inflated to include vast numbers of other deaths.

4. Seawytch, your side has been gloating for years how demographic change will result in an one party state. The vast majority of voters don't vote according to the candidate but by party. And most of your votes are based on Identity, not policies. So, don't play dumb.

 

[Correll]

You based that on your desire to suck his cock as he never said what you claim he was thinking. You just can't help yourself but defend that piece of shit. He said there were very fine people on the side which was comprised by racists who organized, sponsored, arranged, participated and attended that event.

He explicitly stated that he was referring to the sides of the issue of HISTORICAL STATUES,


and explicitly EXCLUDED THE WS.


The crux of the issue is your side's pretense that only ws would support the historical statues.



But even in the world view of that premise, that still does not justify the bald faced lie about what he actually said.


AND, my point about what the lie reveals about your side stands.


You would not lie like that, and defend it to the death, if you really believed the shit you claim to believe.

[video]

Yep. A nearly perfect response. and the Left just flat out lied to the American People about what he said, and made it stick.

 

[Seawytch]

There has not been massive fraud enough to change the outcome of a presidential election.

How the fuck could you possibly know that? You couldn't know that. Nobody could. So you're just making shit up (as usual).

Of course we know. It was investigated by Twice Impeached Trump’s own Department of Justice.

“to date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election.” ~ William Barr, former Attorney General​

Which is dumb. It is silly to think that all fraud was found.


The point is the widespread fraud is done for a reason. TO effect an outcome in the election.


Evidence of widespread fraud indicates the need for more information.

That’s the point. There is zero evidence of widespread fraud. Zero!

Funny. The quote was that there was not evidence of enough fraud to swing the election.

Yet you either failed to read that properly or your brain lied to you, (confirmation bias) to protect your fragile world view.


My point stands. The point of fraud is to swing the election. If we see evidence of fraud, then an investigation to see how much more there was that was not found, in the rushed initial look, is reasonable.


Just assuming that what you see is all there is, is madness.


This country is like a man waking in bed and seeing smoke building up on the ceiling, and going back to sleep because, just a little smoke, is not proof of fire somewhere.

There wasn't enough fraud to swing the election, period. You

You don't even have smoke. The evidence of fraud doesn't even amount to a lit cigarette which is why Trump and his merry band of whacked out "lawyers" had over 60 chances to provide evidence and could not.

You fell for the big lie.

Which is not what he said. He said there was not EVIDENCE of enough fraud to swing the election.


SO, just ignore that little bit of smoke on the ceiling. Go back to sleep. It is not enough smoke to be dangerous.

Right. A cigarette is burning and you want to call it a four alarm fire. There was no more more fraud this election than any other in recent history. Trump lost a free and fair election then lied about it to his slurping sycophants like you and you lapped it up.

I want a real investigation. And to stop the new rules, that certainly look like they were designed to make it easier for commit fraud.

You want an investigation based on a lie so it’s all bullshit. The new rules were for Covid and no other reason. There was no wide spread fraud enough to change the outcome. The worst president in modern history lost. I don’t get why you guys are so surprised by this.

1. So, you dems going to change the rules back?

2. HOw do you know that?

3. Trump had a fine economy and no new wars, until covid hit. That was far better than a lot of modern presidents can say. Your claim otherwise is just more lying from you.

4. Who said I am surprised? I have been aware of the whole point of Third World Immigration and massive propaganda for decades.

1. Maybe, maybe not. Some of the changes made sense and worked. Ballots postmarked on Election Day should be counted beyond election day. California normally gives three days. We gave longer this last time due to COVID and Trump intentionally screwing with the Post Office. Other changes that should be kept include no excuse Vote by Mail, eliminate this "absentee" bullshit altogether. States or counties that went Universal Vote by Mail should keep it if they liked it. I know my county did. We had our first in 2017 and sign ups for permanent Vote by Mail skyrocketed.

2. I know that because there is no evidence of it. There is more evidence of ghosts, bigfoot, the Loch Ness monster and UFOs than there is of widespread fraud. American elections are very secure. We should be proud of our system. I am proud of our system. This was my 4th presidential election working in an Election Office. Smoothest one ever, despite one of the highest turnouts ever.

3. He did have a fine economy thanks to his predecessor...then he fucked it up. We could be on the road to recovery like other countries but Trump botched the response. It's what cost him a second term.

4. Way to blame someone else for Trump being a horrible person and a worse President. So much for the party of "personal responsibility" .

1. Got it. You want to keep the new rules that make cheating easier.

2. Nope. The quote was that there was not evidence of enough cheating to swing the election.

3. He inherited a fine economy that was coming to the end of the normal business cycle. He extended it, and in such a way that wages were showing some excellent movement upwards, especially for the working poor. And he did not botch the response. The numbers were artificially inflated to include vast numbers of other deaths.

4. Seawytch, your side has been gloating for years how demographic change will result in an one party state. The vast majority of voters don't vote according to the candidate but by party. And most of your votes are based on Identity, not policies. So, don't play dumb.

1. There is no evidence that any of the "new rules" makes "cheating" any easier.

2. Right. Basically the same amount of fraud as there is in every election. There was no widespread fraud, period. Biden won a free and fair election. Trump wasn't cheated. He lost fair and square and then lied to his slurping sycophants that lapped it up.

3. Wrong. Stop believing the lies. Debunking the False Claim That COVID Death Counts Are Inflated
Trump blew the response and the great economy he inherited. If he had taken the virus seriously the economy wouldn't be in such bad shape.

4. Not anymore....y'all are Trumpsters now. Gonna join Trump's "patriot party"?

 

[P@triot]

3. Wrong. Stop believing the lies. Debunking the False Claim That COVID Death Counts Are Inflated

Oh FFS you obedient government lap-dog, even the hard left NY Times admitted that anyone who died was marked as "COVID" even if it was in a motorcycle accident or cancer.

 

[P@triot]

4. Not anymore....y'all are Trumpsters now. Gonna join Trump's "patriot party"?

Yep. And we are going to take back the United States from you anti-American, antisemite, pro sexual deviance, pro-abortion, sick bastards.

 

[Seawytch]

3. Wrong. Stop believing the lies. Debunking the False Claim That COVID Death Counts Are Inflated

Oh FFS you obedient government lap-dog, even the hard left NY Times admitted that anyone who died was marked as "COVID" even if it was in a motorcycle accident or cancer.

No they didn’t. You’re such a useful idiot.

 

[Seawytch]

4. Not anymore....y'all are Trumpsters now. Gonna join Trump's "patriot party"?

Yep. And we are going to take back the United States from you anti-American, antisemite, pro sexual deviance, pro-abortion, sick bastards.

All 30% of you? Have fun storming the castle.

 

[P@triot]

No they didn’t. You’re such a useful idiot.

Yes they did...ignorant government lap-dog. I read the fuck'n article myself. You're such a total idiot.

 

[P@triot]

All 30% of you? Have fun storming the castle.

Yeeaahh....that's not going to be much a problem considering your 30% is made up of anti-gun, cross-dressing, butt-hurt bitches

 

[P@triot]

All 30% of you? Have fun storming the castle.

Don't you mean "storming the princess ball"?

 

[Seawytch]

No they didn’t. You’re such a useful idiot.

Yes they did...ignorant government lap-dog. I read the fuck'n article myself. You're such a total idiot.

And yet, oddly, you didn't provide it. Why is that, puppy? Is it because it says nothing of the sort?

 

[Seawytch]

All 30% of you? Have fun storming the castle.

Yeeaahh....that's not going to be much a problem considering your 30% is made up of anti-gun, cross-dressing, butt-hurt bitches

The election results tell a different story...

 

[Correll]

There has not been massive fraud enough to change the outcome of a presidential election.

How the fuck could you possibly know that? You couldn't know that. Nobody could. So you're just making shit up (as usual).

Of course we know. It was investigated by Twice Impeached Trump’s own Department of Justice.

“to date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election.” ~ William Barr, former Attorney General​

Which is dumb. It is silly to think that all fraud was found.


The point is the widespread fraud is done for a reason. TO effect an outcome in the election.


Evidence of widespread fraud indicates the need for more information.

That’s the point. There is zero evidence of widespread fraud. Zero!

Funny. The quote was that there was not evidence of enough fraud to swing the election.

Yet you either failed to read that properly or your brain lied to you, (confirmation bias) to protect your fragile world view.


My point stands. The point of fraud is to swing the election. If we see evidence of fraud, then an investigation to see how much more there was that was not found, in the rushed initial look, is reasonable.


Just assuming that what you see is all there is, is madness.


This country is like a man waking in bed and seeing smoke building up on the ceiling, and going back to sleep because, just a little smoke, is not proof of fire somewhere.

There wasn't enough fraud to swing the election, period. You

You don't even have smoke. The evidence of fraud doesn't even amount to a lit cigarette which is why Trump and his merry band of whacked out "lawyers" had over 60 chances to provide evidence and could not.

You fell for the big lie.

Which is not what he said. He said there was not EVIDENCE of enough fraud to swing the election.


SO, just ignore that little bit of smoke on the ceiling. Go back to sleep. It is not enough smoke to be dangerous.

Right. A cigarette is burning and you want to call it a four alarm fire. There was no more more fraud this election than any other in recent history. Trump lost a free and fair election then lied about it to his slurping sycophants like you and you lapped it up.

I want a real investigation. And to stop the new rules, that certainly look like they were designed to make it easier for commit fraud.

You want an investigation based on a lie so it’s all bullshit. The new rules were for Covid and no other reason. There was no wide spread fraud enough to change the outcome. The worst president in modern history lost. I don’t get why you guys are so surprised by this.

1. So, you dems going to change the rules back?

2. HOw do you know that?

3. Trump had a fine economy and no new wars, until covid hit. That was far better than a lot of modern presidents can say. Your claim otherwise is just more lying from you.

4. Who said I am surprised? I have been aware of the whole point of Third World Immigration and massive propaganda for decades.

1. Maybe, maybe not. Some of the changes made sense and worked. Ballots postmarked on Election Day should be counted beyond election day. California normally gives three days. We gave longer this last time due to COVID and Trump intentionally screwing with the Post Office. Other changes that should be kept include no excuse Vote by Mail, eliminate this "absentee" bullshit altogether. States or counties that went Universal Vote by Mail should keep it if they liked it. I know my county did. We had our first in 2017 and sign ups for permanent Vote by Mail skyrocketed.

2. I know that because there is no evidence of it. There is more evidence of ghosts, bigfoot, the Loch Ness monster and UFOs than there is of widespread fraud. American elections are very secure. We should be proud of our system. I am proud of our system. This was my 4th presidential election working in an Election Office. Smoothest one ever, despite one of the highest turnouts ever.

3. He did have a fine economy thanks to his predecessor...then he fucked it up. We could be on the road to recovery like other countries but Trump botched the response. It's what cost him a second term.

4. Way to blame someone else for Trump being a horrible person and a worse President. So much for the party of "personal responsibility" .

1. Got it. You want to keep the new rules that make cheating easier.

2. Nope. The quote was that there was not evidence of enough cheating to swing the election.

3. He inherited a fine economy that was coming to the end of the normal business cycle. He extended it, and in such a way that wages were showing some excellent movement upwards, especially for the working poor. And he did not botch the response. The numbers were artificially inflated to include vast numbers of other deaths.

4. Seawytch, your side has been gloating for years how demographic change will result in an one party state. The vast majority of voters don't vote according to the candidate but by party. And most of your votes are based on Identity, not policies. So, don't play dumb.

1. There is no evidence that any of the "new rules" makes "cheating" any easier.

2. Right. Basically the same amount of fraud as there is in every election. There was no widespread fraud, period. Biden won a free and fair election. Trump wasn't cheated. He lost fair and square and then lied to his slurping sycophants that lapped it up.

3. Wrong. Stop believing the lies. Debunking the False Claim That COVID Death Counts Are Inflated
Trump blew the response and the great economy he inherited. If he had taken the virus seriously the economy wouldn't be in such bad shape.

4. Not anymore....y'all are Trumpsters now. Gonna join Trump's "patriot party"?

1. You need evidence that stretching the vote over months, makes cheating easier? LOL!!!

2. And you are so sure of that, that you and your side, resists any investigation to prove it. Mmm.

3. The cdc stated that they were accepting guesses as valid and that they were providing extra money for "covid" deaths. Right there, the numbers were designed to be garbage from the very beginning.

4. So, you dropping the point about surprised? Got it.

 

[P@triot]

All 30% of you? Have fun storming the castle.

Yeeaahh....that's not going to be much a problem considering your 30% is made up of anti-gun, cross-dressing, butt-hurt bitches

The election results tell a different story...

Holy shit...did Seawytch just admit that the election was taken by "force" instead of fair election?

 

[P@triot]

Oh FFS you obedient government lap-dog, even the hard left NY Times admitted that anyone who died was marked as "COVID" even if it was in a motorcycle accident or cancer.

No they didn’t. You’re such a useful idiot.

Just curious...do you ever get tired of me proving to everyone how you're uninformed about every subject you speak out about? Including the NY Times own twitter account just to help drive it home since you would cry "Glenn Beck".

NY Times publishes list of COVID victims on front page, caught including suspected homicide victim | Blaze Media

Welp

www.theblaze.com

 

[Seawytch]

There has not been massive fraud enough to change the outcome of a presidential election.

How the fuck could you possibly know that? You couldn't know that. Nobody could. So you're just making shit up (as usual).

Of course we know. It was investigated by Twice Impeached Trump’s own Department of Justice.

“to date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election.” ~ William Barr, former Attorney General​

Which is dumb. It is silly to think that all fraud was found.


The point is the widespread fraud is done for a reason. TO effect an outcome in the election.


Evidence of widespread fraud indicates the need for more information.

That’s the point. There is zero evidence of widespread fraud. Zero!

Funny. The quote was that there was not evidence of enough fraud to swing the election.

Yet you either failed to read that properly or your brain lied to you, (confirmation bias) to protect your fragile world view.


My point stands. The point of fraud is to swing the election. If we see evidence of fraud, then an investigation to see how much more there was that was not found, in the rushed initial look, is reasonable.


Just assuming that what you see is all there is, is madness.


This country is like a man waking in bed and seeing smoke building up on the ceiling, and going back to sleep because, just a little smoke, is not proof of fire somewhere.

There wasn't enough fraud to swing the election, period. You

You don't even have smoke. The evidence of fraud doesn't even amount to a lit cigarette which is why Trump and his merry band of whacked out "lawyers" had over 60 chances to provide evidence and could not.

You fell for the big lie.

Which is not what he said. He said there was not EVIDENCE of enough fraud to swing the election.


SO, just ignore that little bit of smoke on the ceiling. Go back to sleep. It is not enough smoke to be dangerous.

Right. A cigarette is burning and you want to call it a four alarm fire. There was no more more fraud this election than any other in recent history. Trump lost a free and fair election then lied about it to his slurping sycophants like you and you lapped it up.

I want a real investigation. And to stop the new rules, that certainly look like they were designed to make it easier for commit fraud.

You want an investigation based on a lie so it’s all bullshit. The new rules were for Covid and no other reason. There was no wide spread fraud enough to change the outcome. The worst president in modern history lost. I don’t get why you guys are so surprised by this.

1. So, you dems going to change the rules back?

2. HOw do you know that?

3. Trump had a fine economy and no new wars, until covid hit. That was far better than a lot of modern presidents can say. Your claim otherwise is just more lying from you.

4. Who said I am surprised? I have been aware of the whole point of Third World Immigration and massive propaganda for decades.

1. Maybe, maybe not. Some of the changes made sense and worked. Ballots postmarked on Election Day should be counted beyond election day. California normally gives three days. We gave longer this last time due to COVID and Trump intentionally screwing with the Post Office. Other changes that should be kept include no excuse Vote by Mail, eliminate this "absentee" bullshit altogether. States or counties that went Universal Vote by Mail should keep it if they liked it. I know my county did. We had our first in 2017 and sign ups for permanent Vote by Mail skyrocketed.

2. I know that because there is no evidence of it. There is more evidence of ghosts, bigfoot, the Loch Ness monster and UFOs than there is of widespread fraud. American elections are very secure. We should be proud of our system. I am proud of our system. This was my 4th presidential election working in an Election Office. Smoothest one ever, despite one of the highest turnouts ever.

3. He did have a fine economy thanks to his predecessor...then he fucked it up. We could be on the road to recovery like other countries but Trump botched the response. It's what cost him a second term.

4. Way to blame someone else for Trump being a horrible person and a worse President. So much for the party of "personal responsibility" .

1. Got it. You want to keep the new rules that make cheating easier.

2. Nope. The quote was that there was not evidence of enough cheating to swing the election.

3. He inherited a fine economy that was coming to the end of the normal business cycle. He extended it, and in such a way that wages were showing some excellent movement upwards, especially for the working poor. And he did not botch the response. The numbers were artificially inflated to include vast numbers of other deaths.

4. Seawytch, your side has been gloating for years how demographic change will result in an one party state. The vast majority of voters don't vote according to the candidate but by party. And most of your votes are based on Identity, not policies. So, don't play dumb.

1. There is no evidence that any of the "new rules" makes "cheating" any easier.

2. Right. Basically the same amount of fraud as there is in every election. There was no widespread fraud, period. Biden won a free and fair election. Trump wasn't cheated. He lost fair and square and then lied to his slurping sycophants that lapped it up.

3. Wrong. Stop believing the lies. Debunking the False Claim That COVID Death Counts Are Inflated
Trump blew the response and the great economy he inherited. If he had taken the virus seriously the economy wouldn't be in such bad shape.

4. Not anymore....y'all are Trumpsters now. Gonna join Trump's "patriot party"?

1. You need evidence that stretching the vote over months, makes cheating easier? LOL!!!

2. And you are so sure of that, that you and your side, resists any investigation to prove it. Mmm.

3. The cdc stated that they were accepting guesses as valid and that they were providing extra money for "covid" deaths. Right there, the numbers were designed to be garbage from the very beginning.

4. So, you dropping the point about surprised? Got it.

1. Yes. Provide actual proof that any of the rule changes made it "easier to cheat". It isn't like states haven't been mailing ballots to voters for decades. Oregon has had Universal Vote by Mail for years. Where's all the cheating? And what about Utah? I don't see you guys whining about Utah being a Universal Vote by Mail state. How come?

2. You had your investigation. Trump, after he actually WON, was lying about voter fraud in 2016 and his "investigation" found nothing. Trump LIED to you. He didn't "really win".

3. It's funny how none of y'alls claims ever come with links. Probably because they are LIES.

Hospital Payments and the COVID-19 Death Count - FactCheck.org

Q: Are hospitals inflating the number of COVID-19 cases and deaths so they can be paid more? A: Recent legislation pays hospitals higher Medicare rates for COVID-19 patients and treatment, but there is no evidence of fraudulent reporting. FULL QUESTION Are hospitals getting 13,000 per patient if...

www.factcheck.org

4. What? Sorry, ya lost me. Are we back to "boo hoo, the media kept reporting the stupid fucking things Trump said and did"?

 

[Seawytch]

Oh FFS you obedient government lap-dog, even the hard left NY Times admitted that anyone who died was marked as "COVID" even if it was in a motorcycle accident or cancer.

No they didn’t. You’re such a useful idiot.

Just curious...do you ever get tired of me proving to everyone how you're uninformed about every subject you speak out about? Including the NY Times own twitter account just to help drive it home since you would cry "Glenn Beck".

NY Times publishes list of COVID victims on front page, caught including suspected homicide victim | Blaze Media

Welp

www.theblaze.com

View attachment 447651

You aren't serious. One incorrectly listed death? Could you TRY to be less of a ridiculous caricature?

 

[Seawytch]

All 30% of you? Have fun storming the castle.

Yeeaahh....that's not going to be much a problem considering your 30% is made up of anti-gun, cross-dressing, butt-hurt bitches

The election results tell a different story...

Holy shit...did Seawytch just admit that the election was taken by "force" instead of fair election?

Seek professional help...

 

[Correll]

There has not been massive fraud enough to change the outcome of a presidential election.

How the fuck could you possibly know that? You couldn't know that. Nobody could. So you're just making shit up (as usual).

Of course we know. It was investigated by Twice Impeached Trump’s own Department of Justice.

“to date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election.” ~ William Barr, former Attorney General​

Which is dumb. It is silly to think that all fraud was found.


The point is the widespread fraud is done for a reason. TO effect an outcome in the election.


Evidence of widespread fraud indicates the need for more information.

That’s the point. There is zero evidence of widespread fraud. Zero!

Funny. The quote was that there was not evidence of enough fraud to swing the election.

Yet you either failed to read that properly or your brain lied to you, (confirmation bias) to protect your fragile world view.


My point stands. The point of fraud is to swing the election. If we see evidence of fraud, then an investigation to see how much more there was that was not found, in the rushed initial look, is reasonable.


Just assuming that what you see is all there is, is madness.


This country is like a man waking in bed and seeing smoke building up on the ceiling, and going back to sleep because, just a little smoke, is not proof of fire somewhere.

There wasn't enough fraud to swing the election, period. You

You don't even have smoke. The evidence of fraud doesn't even amount to a lit cigarette which is why Trump and his merry band of whacked out "lawyers" had over 60 chances to provide evidence and could not.

You fell for the big lie.

Which is not what he said. He said there was not EVIDENCE of enough fraud to swing the election.


SO, just ignore that little bit of smoke on the ceiling. Go back to sleep. It is not enough smoke to be dangerous.

Right. A cigarette is burning and you want to call it a four alarm fire. There was no more more fraud this election than any other in recent history. Trump lost a free and fair election then lied about it to his slurping sycophants like you and you lapped it up.

I want a real investigation. And to stop the new rules, that certainly look like they were designed to make it easier for commit fraud.

You want an investigation based on a lie so it’s all bullshit. The new rules were for Covid and no other reason. There was no wide spread fraud enough to change the outcome. The worst president in modern history lost. I don’t get why you guys are so surprised by this.

1. So, you dems going to change the rules back?

2. HOw do you know that?

3. Trump had a fine economy and no new wars, until covid hit. That was far better than a lot of modern presidents can say. Your claim otherwise is just more lying from you.

4. Who said I am surprised? I have been aware of the whole point of Third World Immigration and massive propaganda for decades.

1. Maybe, maybe not. Some of the changes made sense and worked. Ballots postmarked on Election Day should be counted beyond election day. California normally gives three days. We gave longer this last time due to COVID and Trump intentionally screwing with the Post Office. Other changes that should be kept include no excuse Vote by Mail, eliminate this "absentee" bullshit altogether. States or counties that went Universal Vote by Mail should keep it if they liked it. I know my county did. We had our first in 2017 and sign ups for permanent Vote by Mail skyrocketed.

2. I know that because there is no evidence of it. There is more evidence of ghosts, bigfoot, the Loch Ness monster and UFOs than there is of widespread fraud. American elections are very secure. We should be proud of our system. I am proud of our system. This was my 4th presidential election working in an Election Office. Smoothest one ever, despite one of the highest turnouts ever.

3. He did have a fine economy thanks to his predecessor...then he fucked it up. We could be on the road to recovery like other countries but Trump botched the response. It's what cost him a second term.

4. Way to blame someone else for Trump being a horrible person and a worse President. So much for the party of "personal responsibility" .

1. Got it. You want to keep the new rules that make cheating easier.

2. Nope. The quote was that there was not evidence of enough cheating to swing the election.

3. He inherited a fine economy that was coming to the end of the normal business cycle. He extended it, and in such a way that wages were showing some excellent movement upwards, especially for the working poor. And he did not botch the response. The numbers were artificially inflated to include vast numbers of other deaths.

4. Seawytch, your side has been gloating for years how demographic change will result in an one party state. The vast majority of voters don't vote according to the candidate but by party. And most of your votes are based on Identity, not policies. So, don't play dumb.

1. There is no evidence that any of the "new rules" makes "cheating" any easier.

2. Right. Basically the same amount of fraud as there is in every election. There was no widespread fraud, period. Biden won a free and fair election. Trump wasn't cheated. He lost fair and square and then lied to his slurping sycophants that lapped it up.

3. Wrong. Stop believing the lies. Debunking the False Claim That COVID Death Counts Are Inflated
Trump blew the response and the great economy he inherited. If he had taken the virus seriously the economy wouldn't be in such bad shape.

4. Not anymore....y'all are Trumpsters now. Gonna join Trump's "patriot party"?

1. You need evidence that stretching the vote over months, makes cheating easier? LOL!!!

2. And you are so sure of that, that you and your side, resists any investigation to prove it. Mmm.

3. The cdc stated that they were accepting guesses as valid and that they were providing extra money for "covid" deaths. Right there, the numbers were designed to be garbage from the very beginning.

4. So, you dropping the point about surprised? Got it.

1. Yes. Provide actual proof that any of the rule changes made it "easier to cheat". It isn't like states haven't been mailing ballots to voters for decades. Oregon has had Universal Vote by Mail for years. Where's all the cheating? And what about Utah? I don't see you guys whining about Utah being a Universal Vote by Mail state. How come?

2. You had your investigation. Trump, after he actually WON, was lying about voter fraud in 2016 and his "investigation" found nothing. Trump LIED to you. He didn't "really win".

3. It's funny how none of y'alls claims ever come with links. Probably because they are LIES.

Hospital Payments and the COVID-19 Death Count - FactCheck.org

Q: Are hospitals inflating the number of COVID-19 cases and deaths so they can be paid more? A: Recent legislation pays hospitals higher Medicare rates for COVID-19 patients and treatment, but there is no evidence of fraudulent reporting. FULL QUESTION Are hospitals getting 13,000 per patient if...

www.factcheck.org

4. What? Sorry, ya lost me. Are we back to "boo hoo, the media kept reporting the stupid fucking things Trump said and did"?

From your link.

" Numerous readers have asked us about such claims, some of which imply that hospitals are making money by simply listing patients as having the disease — when in fact the payments referenced are for treating patients. And while some of the posts imply that fraud may be afoot, multiple experts told us that such theories of hospitals deliberately miscoding patients as COVID-19 are not supported by any evidence. "


Wow. So the hospitals are not getting paid for "listing" covid, but for "treating" covid and on that the "factcheckers" pretend that the hospitals are not getting paid extra for covid patients.


Sophist word games, and you think that means something.


They have a motive for reporting that the patients they are treating have covid. A money motive.

AND the cdc is accepting, A. guesses, and B. deaths with covid as deaths FROM covid.