DOGE and the possible end of the Dept. of Education.

[Raynine]

Donald Trump is dumb they tell us; he’s not educated at all; he just looks at things, figures out what’s wrong, and fixes them. There’s probably a giant highfalutin word for that, but not being highly educated, it escapes me. I think it might have something to do with concrete, instead of abstract thinking, but being MAGA-dumb it is beyond the pay grade of those like me who did not go into debt for a worthless, intellect-adjusted, college education. Early on, I was told that if something is broken, it must be fixed until it works. In the postmodern world, education tells us that if something works, it must be fixed until it is broken. Education entropy is not the way people like me want to go. I know what happened to Rome with the bread and circuses, and that should not be a revolving door in human experience. I sincerely hope the Department of Education is disbanded.

We saw what happened with the third-rate romance of Joe Biden and the low rent rendezvous of Kamala Harris. That was a black mark on America's credibility that will take decades to live down. Things are different now-people have come to their senses.

The magnifying glass has been on the people. Now it is on the people’s leadership. This has been a long time coming. Corruption of character is a human flaw, and it needs to be exposed from time to time. Beneficiaries of corruption will be up in arms, but when the extent of the corruption is so embedded and widespread that it threatens to sink the ship, the rats need to go. I hope Trump and Musk succeed.

 

[1srelluc]

Donald Trump is dumb they tell us; he’s not educated at all; he just looks at things, figures out what’s wrong, and fixes them. There’s probably a giant highfalutin word for that, but not being highly educated, it escapes me. I think it might have something to do with concrete, instead of abstract thinking, but being MAGA-dumb it is beyond the pay grade of those like me who did not go into debt for a worthless, intellect-adjusted, college education. Early on, I was told that if something is broken, it must be fixed until it works. In the postmodern world, education tells us that if something works, it must be fixed until it is broken. Education entropy is not the way people like me want to go. I know what happened to Rome with the bread and circuses, and that should not be a revolving door in human experience. I sincerely hope the Department of Education is disbanded.

We saw what happened with the third-rate romance of Joe Biden and the low rent rendezvous of Kamala Harris. That was a black mark on America credibility that will take decades to live down. Things are different now-people have come to their senses.

The magnifying glass has been on the people. Now it is on the people’s leadership. This has been a long time coming. Corruption of character is a human flaw, and it needs to be exposed from time to time. Beneficiaries of corruption will be up in arms, but when the extent of the corruption is so embedded and widespread that it threatens to sink the ship, the rats need to go. I hope Trump and Musk succeed.

 

[candycorn]

Donald Trump is dumb they tell us; he’s not educated at all; he just looks at things, figures out what’s wrong, and fixes them.

Any examples of what he has fixed?

 

[Raynine]

Any examples of what he has fixed?

https://www.fec.gov/resources/cms-content/documents/2024presgeresults.pdf

 

[candycorn]

https://www.fec.gov/resources/cms-content/documents/2024presgeresults.pdf

So you can’t think of anything either. Great.

 

[ReinyDays]

... I sincerely hope the Department of Education is disbanded ...

Low hanging fruit ... but still the "poster child" of government bloat ... we already have 50 perfectly good Department of Educations on the ground teaching children ... The Federal Government shouldn't even have authority over Public Education ... that's the parent's responsibility ...

Let the States decide if their children should be educated ... how much do you need to know to pick cotton in Mississippi or Texas? ...

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Any examples of what he has fixed?

He's Put the Moochers, Thieves, and Invaders in a Fix

 

[DGS49]

Any discussion of the Department of Education must start with a recognition that its very existence is unconstitutional. Congress has no Article I power to spend our tax dollars on "education," other than for the Armed Forces.

But Democrats long ago rendered the Tenth Amendment dead-letter law and ignore it, so that little issue can effectively be ignored.

The question becomes, What role should the Department play in education around the country? There can be no doubt that EDUCATION is primarily the obligation of the different States (and the District of Columbia), so how can the Feds legitimately supplement the efforts of the States?

Basically, they can try to ensure that the States don't leave any identifiable groups behind, when it comes to opportunity. Special needs students, desperately poor students, students in schools that are markedly inferior due to location (rural) or demographics (urban). The Feds can assist the States in funding for these types of students.

How the Feds got involved in funding college educations is a mystery to me, but their involvement has been a seriously negative factor, inducing our institutions of higher learning to increase tuitions and fees at astronomical rates, dwarfing the rate of inflation in the rest of society. So by inertia alone, the Feds must continue providing grants and loans to students who need them, merely hoping that the institutions will stop screwing them, and the students themselves will use their fucking heads when deciding whether to go massively into debt for that sheepskin (or whatever).

But it is not necessary to have a separate cabinet-level Department to accomplish the few legitimate tasks that remain. Four thousand four hundred employees? Gimmeafukkinbreak.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

DOE will not go away.

I am curious to see what it morphs into.

 

[Muhammed]

DoE needs to cut all funding to any schools that teach global warming bullshit. Keep the Global Warming Doomsday Cult recruiters out of our schools!

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

DoE needs to cut all funding to any schools that teach global warming bullshit. Keep the Global Warming Doomsday Cult recruiters out of our schools!

Schools must exclude all children of parents who try to introduce conspiracy code of function in schools.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Student Financial Aid website crashed.

https://thehill.com/homenews/education/5192613-fafsa-federal-student-aid-education-department-layoffs-trump/

 

[Lisa558]

DOE will not go away.

I am curious to see what it morphs into.

Probably a small administrative office to distribute federal funds to the states. It could be put under HHS.

 

[Lisa558]

Student Financial Aid website crashed.

https://thehill.com/homenews/education/5192613-fafsa-federal-student-aid-education-department-layoffs-trump/

There used to be private companies that administered federal student loans before Obama killed them and brought it all in-house, where government “workers” could do it.

Time to let private industry handle it again. They do things more efficiently than government.

 

[d0gbreath]

There used to be private companies that administered federal student loans before Obama killed them and brought it all in-house, where government “workers” could do it.

Time to let private industry handle it again. They do things more efficiently than government.

My student loans came from a small savings and loan company in Maybank, Texas. Early '90s though.

 

[Lisa558]

My student loans came from a small savings and loan company in Maybank, Texas. Early '90s though.

Yes. Obama didn’t destroy the private end of the business until he shoved through Obamacare.

Bet you didn’t know that. Buried within the 1000-page Obamacare bill was a section that abolished companies from administering federal student loans.

The tens of thousands of employees who lost jobs as a result could tell you.

 

[d0gbreath]

Yes. Obama didn’t destroy the private end of the business until he shoved through Obamacare.

Bet you didn’t know that. Buried within the 1000-page Obamacare bill was a section that abolished companies from administering federal student loans.

The tens of thousands of employees who lost jobs as a result could tell you.

Oh, I didn't know that.
Why would banking institutions lose employees from not loaning to students? They were already loaning to everyone and their brother.

 

[Lisa558]

Oh, I didn't know that.
Why would banking institutions lose employees from not loaning to students? They were already loaning to everyone and their brother.

Businesses that centered on student loans suffered big losses. Some folded; others cut their staff by half or more.

 

[d0gbreath]

Businesses that centered on student loans suffered big losses. Some folded; others cut their staff by half or more.

Sounds like all of their eggs were in one basket. Never a good idea.

 

[Lisa558]

Sounds like all of their eggs were in one basket. Never a good idea.

The student loan industry is huge, with some companies employing thousands. They had other student loans (private) but most student loans are federal.

(I did notice, though, that there was never any sympathy for the tens of thousands of innocent people who lost their jobs through no fault of their own. Seems the only time anyone cares is if it’s government workers.)