Does The US Really Want Socialism?

The idea of "free stuff" - which really isn't free - has long been popular with those who have less and envy or resent other's success, but do America's socialists really understand what it is?

Socialism - according to Marxist theory - is just a transitional step from capitalism to communism which has been responsible for 100 million deaths over the last century. So it is important to understand that those who believe socialism is not so bad are either ignorant, just kidding themselves, or so resentful that they just don't care.

100 Years. 100 Million Lives. Think Twice. | Opinion | The Harvard Crimson


What idea of free stuff are you touting or questioning?

The idea that tax cuts are free or pay for themselves?
I'm not touting free stuff, Comrade Otto, but the Democrat Socialist Party hopefuls certainly are and if you believe that they are only "going to tax the hell out of the wealthy" as de Blasio stated, you are too gullible or too stupid to be allowed to vote.

Nanny state control of your life will be very expensive and operated by some of the dimmest, most incompetent people on the planet.

Cortez-Not-Figured-It-Out.jpg
 
There is nothing stopping Dem's from writing a check to government today to fund social programs. Go ahead lead by example Dem's, shame the right into joining you. No? Yeah just as we thought its all faux rage. :icon_rolleyes:
Nothing stops republicans from writing a check to pay for their wars
 
Some things people do better on their own
Other things are best done as a society

Providing services and assistance to We the People is not Socialism

Are you for or against Gov't controlled industries/companies?
Where it makes sense and we save money....No

What? Your for Universal Healthcare and that doesn’t save $$
Of course it does.

It saves money in every country. Are we incapable of saving money like other countries do?
 
Some things people do better on their own
Other things are best done as a society

Providing services and assistance to We the People is not Socialism

Are you for or against Gov't controlled industries/companies?
Where it makes sense and we save money....No

What? Your for Universal Healthcare and that doesn’t save $$
Of course it does.

It saves money in every country. Are we incapable of saving money like other countries do?

It does? LOL how do you know?
 
The idea of "free stuff" - which really isn't free - has long been popular with those who have less and envy or resent other's success, but do America's socialists really understand what it is?

Socialism - according to Marxist theory - is just a transitional step from capitalism to communism which has been responsible for 100 million deaths over the last century. So it is important to understand that those who believe socialism is not so bad are either ignorant, just kidding themselves, or so resentful that they just don't care.

100 Years. 100 Million Lives. Think Twice. | Opinion | The Harvard Crimson
Yes, I want socialism. :desk:

Marx's ideas went much further than "socialism is just a transitional step from capitalism to communism". In none of his writings did he ever suggest that socialism was a system that gives people something for nothing ("free stuff").

Can you explain why you would believe such a thing that is so easily refuted? It's one thing to be ignorant, it's entirely another thing to be cocky about your ignorance.
 
The idea of "free stuff" - which really isn't free - has long been popular with those who have less and envy or resent other's success, but do America's socialists really understand what it is?

Socialism - according to Marxist theory - is just a transitional step from capitalism to communism which has been responsible for 100 million deaths over the last century. So it is important to understand that those who believe socialism is not so bad are either ignorant, just kidding themselves, or so resentful that they just don't care.

100 Years. 100 Million Lives. Think Twice. | Opinion | The Harvard Crimson


What idea of free stuff are you touting or questioning?

The idea that tax cuts are free or pay for themselves?
I'm not touting free stuff, Comrade Otto, but the Democrat Socialist Party hopefuls certainly are and if you believe that they are only "going to tax the hell out of the wealthy" as de Blasio stated, you are too gullible or too stupid to be allowed to vote.

Nanny state control of your life will be very expensive and operated by some of the dimmest, most incompetent people on the planet.

Cortez-Not-Figured-It-Out.jpg

First of all, I don't believe that you know what you're posting about in regard to Socialism.

Care to try to explain it?
 
Some things people do better on their own
Other things are best done as a society

Providing services and assistance to We the People is not Socialism

Are you for or against Gov't controlled industries/companies?
Where it makes sense and we save money....No

What? Your for Universal Healthcare and that doesn’t save $$
Of course it does.

It saves money in every country. Are we incapable of saving money like other countries do?


Do other countries offer Free Health Care to their Illegals? That's what the left is pushing for her, you should know.
 
Some things people do better on their own
Other things are best done as a society

Providing services and assistance to We the People is not Socialism

Are you for or against Gov't controlled industries/companies?
Where it makes sense and we save money....No

What? Your for Universal Healthcare and that doesn’t save $$
Of course it does.

It saves money in every country. Are we incapable of saving money like other countries do?


Do other countries offer Free Health Care to their Illegals? That's what the left is pushing for her, you should know.


Can you source the free HC for Illegals information?
 
Some things people do better on their own
Other things are best done as a society

Providing services and assistance to We the People is not Socialism


I can agree a Massive Welfare State of Freebies isn't socialism per se. But the massive amount of taxes needed for the "everything is free" society makes it impractical for people to take the risks needed for innovated new ventures.

And sometimes makes it impossible to get anyone except the government to do

Odd....nobody has ever proposed an “Everything is free” Government
Trump wants free shit for being president.
 
Are you for or against Gov't controlled industries/companies?
Where it makes sense and we save money....No

What? Your for Universal Healthcare and that doesn’t save $$
Of course it does.

It saves money in every country. Are we incapable of saving money like other countries do?


Do other countries offer Free Health Care to their Illegals? That's what the left is pushing for her, you should know.


Can you source the free HC for Illegals information?

Did you not watch the debates?
 
The idea of "free stuff" - which really isn't free - has long been popular with those who have less and envy or resent other's success, but do America's socialists really understand what it is?

Socialism - according to Marxist theory - is just a transitional step from capitalism to communism which has been responsible for 100 million deaths over the last century. So it is important to understand that those who believe socialism is not so bad are either ignorant, just kidding themselves, or so resentful that they just don't care.

100 Years. 100 Million Lives. Think Twice. | Opinion | The Harvard Crimson
Yes, I want socialism. :desk:

Marx's ideas went much further than "socialism is just a transitional step from capitalism to communism". In none of his writings did he ever suggest that socialism was a system that gives people something for nothing ("free stuff").

Can you explain why you would believe such a thing that is so easily refuted? It's one thing to be ignorant, it's entirely another thing to be cocky about your ignorance.


Karl Marx has been dead and buried for more than a century. The founder of Modern Tyranny was never actually a tyrant or a despot himself. He just wrote the theory on how to do it.

Better than look at this individual written record, I think its more telling to look at all of the records of how people applied his ideology. The millions killed, the gulags and death camps instituted, the lie told by everyone of his disciples from Stalin to Obama, from Beria to Strzok..

The whole system is based upon the Big Lie.
 
If Socialized Medicine is so hunky-dory, why did the hard core libs of Vermont pull the plug on it?

If Vermont or another leftist state in America thinks its a good idea- they should implement it in their own realm, and if it works out as the libs think it would- other states will definitely follow.
 
The idea of "free stuff" - which really isn't free - has long been popular with those who have less and envy or resent other's success, but do America's socialists really understand what it is?

Socialism - according to Marxist theory - is just a transitional step from capitalism to communism which has been responsible for 100 million deaths over the last century. So it is important to understand that those who believe socialism is not so bad are either ignorant, just kidding themselves, or so resentful that they just don't care.

100 Years. 100 Million Lives. Think Twice. | Opinion | The Harvard Crimson
Yes, I want socialism. :desk:

Marx's ideas went much further than "socialism is just a transitional step from capitalism to communism". In none of his writings did he ever suggest that socialism was a system that gives people something for nothing ("free stuff").

Can you explain why you would believe such a thing that is so easily refuted? It's one thing to be ignorant, it's entirely another thing to be cocky about your ignorance.
So you find 100 million deaths and the trail of destroyed economies enticing, eh? Is it the sight of blood or the stench of decay that attracts you?

Skip the semantics and mental masturbation, Comrade ... Marxism has been tried and judged a tragic failure but I'm certain there is a "Worker's Paradise" on the planet that would love to host your enthusiasm.
I'm not touting free stuff, Comrade Otto, but the Democrat Socialist Party hopefuls certainly are and if you believe that they are only "going to tax the hell out of the wealthy" as de Blasio stated, you are too gullible or too stupid to be allowed to vote. Nanny state control of your life will be very expensive and operated by some of the dimmest, most incompetent people (Democrats) on the planet.
First of all, I don't believe that you know what you're posting about in regard to Socialism. Care to try to explain it?
Yanno, rather than bother to remind you once again of socialism's 100% failure rate, I'll simply post the first definition that appears when one Googles the word:
so·cial·ism
/ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/
noun
a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
  • (in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of Communism.
 
The idea of "free stuff" - which really isn't free - has long been popular with those who have less and envy or resent other's success, but do America's socialists really understand what it is?

Socialism - according to Marxist theory - is just a transitional step from capitalism to communism which has been responsible for 100 million deaths over the last century. So it is important to understand that those who believe socialism is not so bad are either ignorant, just kidding themselves, or so resentful that they just don't care.

100 Years. 100 Million Lives. Think Twice. | Opinion | The Harvard Crimson
Yes, I want socialism. :desk:

Marx's ideas went much further than "socialism is just a transitional step from capitalism to communism". In none of his writings did he ever suggest that socialism was a system that gives people something for nothing ("free stuff").

Can you explain why you would believe such a thing that is so easily refuted? It's one thing to be ignorant, it's entirely another thing to be cocky about your ignorance.
So you find 100 million deaths and the trail of destroyed economies enticing, eh? Is it the sight of blood or the stench of decay that attracts you?

Skip the semantics and mental masturbation, Comrade ... Marxism has been tried and judged a tragic failure but I'm certain there is a "Worker's Paradise" on the planet that would love to host your enthusiasm.
Actually, it is the rot of American society that has me anticipating a new social arrangement. It is the stench of American capitalism that has everyone talking about socialism as an alternative to dress the place up.
 
wall street didn't build this country, the middle class did!

when the middle class does well, the poor does well, the wealthy do well!

my dad used to have an expression: "A Job is about your dignity, champ!"

we need middle class Beto in that white house!
 
The idea of "free stuff" - which really isn't free - has long been popular with those who have less and envy or resent other's success, but do America's socialists really understand what it is?

Socialism - according to Marxist theory - is just a transitional step from capitalism to communism which has been responsible for 100 million deaths over the last century. So it is important to understand that those who believe socialism is not so bad are either ignorant, just kidding themselves, or so resentful that they just don't care.

100 Years. 100 Million Lives. Think Twice. | Opinion | The Harvard Crimson
Yes, I want socialism. :desk:

Marx's ideas went much further than "socialism is just a transitional step from capitalism to communism". In none of his writings did he ever suggest that socialism was a system that gives people something for nothing ("free stuff").

Can you explain why you would believe such a thing that is so easily refuted? It's one thing to be ignorant, it's entirely another thing to be cocky about your ignorance.


Karl Marx has been dead and buried for more than a century. The founder of Modern Tyranny was never actually a tyrant or a despot himself. He just wrote the theory on how to do it.

Better than look at this individual written record, I think its more telling to look at all of the records of how people applied his ideology. The millions killed, the gulags and death camps instituted, the lie told by everyone of his disciples from Stalin to Obama, from Beria to Strzok..

The whole system is based upon the Big Lie.
"Communism is the riddle of history solved, and it knows itself to be this solution."
Private Property and Communism, Marx, 1844
 
The idea of "free stuff" - which really isn't free - has long been popular with those who have less and envy or resent other's success, but do America's socialists really understand what it is?

Socialism - according to Marxist theory - is just a transitional step from capitalism to communism which has been responsible for 100 million deaths over the last century. So it is important to understand that those who believe socialism is not so bad are either ignorant, just kidding themselves, or so resentful that they just don't care.

100 Years. 100 Million Lives. Think Twice. | Opinion | The Harvard Crimson
Yes, I want socialism. :desk:

Marx's ideas went much further than "socialism is just a transitional step from capitalism to communism". In none of his writings did he ever suggest that socialism was a system that gives people something for nothing ("free stuff").

Can you explain why you would believe such a thing that is so easily refuted? It's one thing to be ignorant, it's entirely another thing to be cocky about your ignorance.
So you find 100 million deaths and the trail of destroyed economies enticing, eh? Is it the sight of blood or the stench of decay that attracts you?

Skip the semantics and mental masturbation, Comrade ... Marxism has been tried and judged a tragic failure but I'm certain there is a "Worker's Paradise" on the planet that would love to host your enthusiasm.
Actually, it is the rot of American society that has me anticipating a new social arrangement. It is the stench of American capitalism that has everyone talking about socialism as an alternative to dress the place up.


You may have the dream that you will be able to purge millions of Deplorables in American death camps, but be wary of what you ask for.

In the "Gulag Archipelago", Solzynitzen reports about a lot of loyal communists getting "swept up" into the camps of the gulag. If this were to come down as the left hopes, God forbid, I was hoping to get an opportunity to denounce any liberal I know to the authorities.
 
Are you for or against Gov't controlled industries/companies?
Where it makes sense and we save money....No

What? Your for Universal Healthcare and that doesn’t save $$
Of course it does.

It saves money in every country. Are we incapable of saving money like other countries do?


Do other countries offer Free Health Care to their Illegals? That's what the left is pushing for her, you should know.


Can you source the free HC for Illegals information?
Do you only pretend to be consistently ignorant, Comrade Otto, or are you not pretending?

All Democrats At Main Debate Agree Illegal Immigrants Should Get Health Care Coverage
"This is a show of hands question and hold them up so people can see. Raise your hand if your government plan would provide coverage for undocumented immigrants," Guthrie said to the candidates Thursday night.... Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders, Kamala Harris, Andrew Yang, Pete Buttigieg, Kirsten Gillibrand, Michael Bennet, Marianne Williamson, John Hickenlooper, and Eric Swalwell all raised their hand.
 

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