Does the Right really understand the meaning of the protests?

Yes, but they want to focus on the political ramifications

  • Yes, but there is blame for violence on both sides

    Votes: 5 62.5%
  • Yes, but preservation of heritage is the important point to remember

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • No. They fail to understand what repression and terror has wrought

    Votes: 2 25.0%
  • No and they are indifferent

    Votes: 2 25.0%

  • Total voters
    8

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It seems to me that the Right wears blinders where the meaning of the protests over confederate memorials is concerned. They seem to have a political agenda used as a template when they gauge the movement to remove confederate memorials.

Some want to argue that past presidents and statesmen who held slaves are just as culpable in the preservation of slavery and the dissolution of the Union as those in the confederacy.. George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, even Benjamin Franklin have been cited as examples of slave owners whose monuments and memorials worthy of removal just as the confederate leaders may or may not be worthy.

The difference is, and this is the salient point, the confederacy was formed to preserve state's rights. And, in particular, a state's right to permit its citizens to hold, beat, abuse, sell and buy human beings as labor without pay.

Confederate leaders raised their swords in open defiance in order to destroy the United States of America. Inarguably an so act of treason.

Many of these confederate monuments were erected during the darkest days of African American repression otherwise known as the era of Jim Crow. While proclaimed free, African Americans were not free to excerise their right to vote, own property or live in peace and security. African Americans lived every day with the threat of mob violence should they merely fail to step out of the way of a White person. If they had the temerity to whistle or cat call at a White woman. If they did not comply with senseless rules of segregation by sitting anywhere on a municipal bus or a lunch counter.

Monuments dedicated to the confederacy were built ostensively as a commemoration of southern heritage. But to the Black citizens of the south, they were built as warnings not to step out of line, to remember their proper place, to not become 'uppity'.

Does the Right understand that level of indignation? Does the Right respect all the rights extended to all the citizenry?

Whenever a group petitions to enjoy all the rights all Americans are to enjoy, which side on our political spectrum provides the resistance? Civil rights were opposed by the Right. Women's rights were opposed by the Right. Gay rights are opposed by the Right.

Anybody else see a pattern here?
 
no, just add this to the list of things they don't undertand the meaning of...
 
Just saw one of the Central Park Five. Remember, Trump called for them to be murdered after a false accusation that landed them in jail for over seven years.

He said Trump is uniting the country.

Against Trump.
 
It seems to me that the Right wears blinders where the meaning of the protests over confederate memorials is concerned. They seem to have a political agenda used as a template when they gauge the movement to remove confederate memorials.

Some want to argue that past presidents and statesmen who held slaves are just as culpable in the preservation of slavery and the dissolution of the Union as those in the confederacy.. George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, even Benjamin Franklin have been cited as examples of slave owners whose monuments and memorials worthy of removal just as the confederate leaders may or may not be worthy.

The difference is, and this is the salient point, the confederacy was formed to preserve state's rights. And, in particular, a state's right to permit its citizens to hold, beat, abuse, sell and buy human beings as labor without pay.

Confederate leaders raised their swords in open defiance in order to destroy the United States of America. Inarguably an so act of treason.

Many of these confederate monuments were erected during the darkest days of African American repression otherwise known as the era of Jim Crow. While proclaimed free, African Americans were not free to excerise their right to vote, own property or live in peace and security. African Americans lived every day with the threat of mob violence should they merely fail to step out of the way of a White person. If they had the temerity to whistle or cat call at a White woman. If they did not comply with senseless rules of segregation by sitting anywhere on a municipal bus or a lunch counter.

Monuments dedicated to the confederacy were built ostensively as a commemoration of southern heritage. But to the Black citizens of the south, they were built as warnings not to step out of line, to remember their proper place, to not become 'uppity'.

Does the Right understand that level of indignation? Does the Right respect all the rights extended to all the citizenry?

Whenever a group petitions to enjoy all the rights all Americans are to enjoy, which side on our political spectrum provides the resistance? Civil rights were opposed by the Right. Women's rights were opposed by the Right. Gay rights are opposed by the Right.

Anybody else see a pattern here?
Which side opposes and attacks proponents of things like white student unions?

Which side opposes fair divorce laws for men and fair compensation for the much more physical jobs that only men are expected to do?
 
It seems to me that the Right wears blinders where the meaning of the protests over confederate memorials is concerned. They seem to have a political agenda used as a template when they gauge the movement to remove confederate memorials.

Some want to argue that past presidents and statesmen who held slaves are just as culpable in the preservation of slavery and the dissolution of the Union as those in the confederacy.. George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, even Benjamin Franklin have been cited as examples of slave owners whose monuments and memorials worthy of removal just as the confederate leaders may or may not be worthy.

The difference is, and this is the salient point, the confederacy was formed to preserve state's rights. And, in particular, a state's right to permit its citizens to hold, beat, abuse, sell and buy human beings as labor without pay.

Confederate leaders raised their swords in open defiance in order to destroy the United States of America. Inarguably an so act of treason.

Many of these confederate monuments were erected during the darkest days of African American repression otherwise known as the era of Jim Crow. While proclaimed free, African Americans were not free to excerise their right to vote, own property or live in peace and security. African Americans lived every day with the threat of mob violence should they merely fail to step out of the way of a White person. If they had the temerity to whistle or cat call at a White woman. If they did not comply with senseless rules of segregation by sitting anywhere on a municipal bus or a lunch counter.

Monuments dedicated to the confederacy were built ostensively as a commemoration of southern heritage. But to the Black citizens of the south, they were built as warnings not to step out of line, to remember their proper place, to not become 'uppity'.

Does the Right understand that level of indignation? Does the Right respect all the rights extended to all the citizenry?

Whenever a group petitions to enjoy all the rights all Americans are to enjoy, which side on our political spectrum provides the resistance? Civil rights were opposed by the Right. Women's rights were opposed by the Right. Gay rights are opposed by the Right.

Anybody else see a pattern here?
Mitch and Paul want tens of millions of Americans to suffer and die without healthcare.
Republicans work to move the wealth of the nation to the top 1%.
Voter suppression.
Lies.
Republicans almost destroyed this country under Bush. Now they want to finish the job under Trump.
 
It seems to me that the Right wears blinders where the meaning of the protests over confederate memorials is concerned. They seem to have a political agenda used as a template when they gauge the movement to remove confederate memorials.

Some want to argue that past presidents and statesmen who held slaves are just as culpable in the preservation of slavery and the dissolution of the Union as those in the confederacy.. George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, even Benjamin Franklin have been cited as examples of slave owners whose monuments and memorials worthy of removal just as the confederate leaders may or may not be worthy.

The difference is, and this is the salient point, the confederacy was formed to preserve state's rights. And, in particular, a state's right to permit its citizens to hold, beat, abuse, sell and buy human beings as labor without pay.

Confederate leaders raised their swords in open defiance in order to destroy the United States of America. Inarguably an so act of treason.

Many of these confederate monuments were erected during the darkest days of African American repression otherwise known as the era of Jim Crow. While proclaimed free, African Americans were not free to excerise their right to vote, own property or live in peace and security. African Americans lived every day with the threat of mob violence should they merely fail to step out of the way of a White person. If they had the temerity to whistle or cat call at a White woman. If they did not comply with senseless rules of segregation by sitting anywhere on a municipal bus or a lunch counter.

Monuments dedicated to the confederacy were built ostensively as a commemoration of southern heritage. But to the Black citizens of the south, they were built as warnings not to step out of line, to remember their proper place, to not become 'uppity'.

Does the Right understand that level of indignation? Does the Right respect all the rights extended to all the citizenry?

Whenever a group petitions to enjoy all the rights all Americans are to enjoy, which side on our political spectrum provides the resistance? Civil rights were opposed by the Right. Women's rights were opposed by the Right. Gay rights are opposed by the Right.

Anybody else see a pattern here?
Which side opposes and attacks proponents of things like white student unions?

Which side opposes fair divorce laws for men and fair compensation for the much more physical jobs that only men are expected to do?
Which side are nazis and white supremacists?
 
It seems to me that the Right wears blinders where the meaning of the protests over confederate memorials is concerned. They seem to have a political agenda used as a template when they gauge the movement to remove confederate memorials.

Some want to argue that past presidents and statesmen who held slaves are just as culpable in the preservation of slavery and the dissolution of the Union as those in the confederacy.. George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, even Benjamin Franklin have been cited as examples of slave owners whose monuments and memorials worthy of removal just as the confederate leaders may or may not be worthy.

The difference is, and this is the salient point, the confederacy was formed to preserve state's rights. And, in particular, a state's right to permit its citizens to hold, beat, abuse, sell and buy human beings as labor without pay.

Confederate leaders raised their swords in open defiance in order to destroy the United States of America. Inarguably an so act of treason.

Many of these confederate monuments were erected during the darkest days of African American repression otherwise known as the era of Jim Crow. While proclaimed free, African Americans were not free to excerise their right to vote, own property or live in peace and security. African Americans lived every day with the threat of mob violence should they merely fail to step out of the way of a White person. If they had the temerity to whistle or cat call at a White woman. If they did not comply with senseless rules of segregation by sitting anywhere on a municipal bus or a lunch counter.

Monuments dedicated to the confederacy were built ostensively as a commemoration of southern heritage. But to the Black citizens of the south, they were built as warnings not to step out of line, to remember their proper place, to not become 'uppity'.

Does the Right understand that level of indignation? Does the Right respect all the rights extended to all the citizenry?

Whenever a group petitions to enjoy all the rights all Americans are to enjoy, which side on our political spectrum provides the resistance? Civil rights were opposed by the Right. Women's rights were opposed by the Right. Gay rights are opposed by the Right.

Anybody else see a pattern here?
Which side opposes and attacks proponents of things like white student unions?

Which side opposes fair divorce laws for men and fair compensation for the much more physical jobs that only men are expected to do?
Keeping your eye on the ball I see.
 
It seems to me that the Right wears blinders where the meaning of the protests over confederate memorials is concerned. They seem to have a political agenda used as a template when they gauge the movement to remove confederate memorials.

Some want to argue that past presidents and statesmen who held slaves are just as culpable in the preservation of slavery and the dissolution of the Union as those in the confederacy.. George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, even Benjamin Franklin have been cited as examples of slave owners whose monuments and memorials worthy of removal just as the confederate leaders may or may not be worthy.

The difference is, and this is the salient point, the confederacy was formed to preserve state's rights. And, in particular, a state's right to permit its citizens to hold, beat, abuse, sell and buy human beings as labor without pay.

Confederate leaders raised their swords in open defiance in order to destroy the United States of America. Inarguably an so act of treason.

Many of these confederate monuments were erected during the darkest days of African American repression otherwise known as the era of Jim Crow. While proclaimed free, African Americans were not free to excerise their right to vote, own property or live in peace and security. African Americans lived every day with the threat of mob violence should they merely fail to step out of the way of a White person. If they had the temerity to whistle or cat call at a White woman. If they did not comply with senseless rules of segregation by sitting anywhere on a municipal bus or a lunch counter.

Monuments dedicated to the confederacy were built ostensively as a commemoration of southern heritage. But to the Black citizens of the south, they were built as warnings not to step out of line, to remember their proper place, to not become 'uppity'.

Does the Right understand that level of indignation? Does the Right respect all the rights extended to all the citizenry?

Whenever a group petitions to enjoy all the rights all Americans are to enjoy, which side on our political spectrum provides the resistance? Civil rights were opposed by the Right. Women's rights were opposed by the Right. Gay rights are opposed by the Right.

Anybody else see a pattern here?
Mitch and Paul want tens of millions of Americans to suffer and die without healthcare.
Republicans work to move the wealth of the nation to the top 1%.
Voter suppression.
Lies.
Republicans almost destroyed this country under Bush. Now they want to finish the job under Trump.
If Trump wasn't trying to destroy this country would he be doing anything differently?
 
It seems to me that the Right wears blinders where the meaning of the protests over confederate memorials is concerned. They seem to have a political agenda used as a template when they gauge the movement to remove confederate memorials.

Some want to argue that past presidents and statesmen who held slaves are just as culpable in the preservation of slavery and the dissolution of the Union as those in the confederacy.. George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, even Benjamin Franklin have been cited as examples of slave owners whose monuments and memorials worthy of removal just as the confederate leaders may or may not be worthy.

The difference is, and this is the salient point, the confederacy was formed to preserve state's rights. And, in particular, a state's right to permit its citizens to hold, beat, abuse, sell and buy human beings as labor without pay.

Confederate leaders raised their swords in open defiance in order to destroy the United States of America. Inarguably an so act of treason.

Many of these confederate monuments were erected during the darkest days of African American repression otherwise known as the era of Jim Crow. While proclaimed free, African Americans were not free to excerise their right to vote, own property or live in peace and security. African Americans lived every day with the threat of mob violence should they merely fail to step out of the way of a White person. If they had the temerity to whistle or cat call at a White woman. If they did not comply with senseless rules of segregation by sitting anywhere on a municipal bus or a lunch counter.

Monuments dedicated to the confederacy were built ostensively as a commemoration of southern heritage. But to the Black citizens of the south, they were built as warnings not to step out of line, to remember their proper place, to not become 'uppity'.

Does the Right understand that level of indignation? Does the Right respect all the rights extended to all the citizenry?

Whenever a group petitions to enjoy all the rights all Americans are to enjoy, which side on our political spectrum provides the resistance? Civil rights were opposed by the Right. Women's rights were opposed by the Right. Gay rights are opposed by the Right.

Anybody else see a pattern here?
Which side opposes and attacks proponents of things like white student unions?

Which side opposes fair divorce laws for men and fair compensation for the much more physical jobs that only men are expected to do?
Which side are nazis and white supremacists?
Which side shamelessly believes that white people are inherently morally inferior while embracing anti-whites of all stripes?
 
Yes... the left needs to stop inciting violence whenever they encounter an opposing view.
 
"Monuments dedicated to the confederacy were built ostensively as a commemoration of southern heritage."

WRONG.

They were built to commemorate the most hideous war America has faced because it was a war from within. It was Americans killing Americans. Kind of like where we are headed now.

Those statues mean different things to different people. But they are reminders of our past and should not be taken down. Just because the reigning militant group in America has deemed them Politically Incorrect, that does not mean they have the right to destroy them.
 
It seems to me that the Right wears blinders where the meaning of the protests over confederate memorials is concerned. They seem to have a political agenda used as a template when they gauge the movement to remove confederate memorials.

Some want to argue that past presidents and statesmen who held slaves are just as culpable in the preservation of slavery and the dissolution of the Union as those in the confederacy.. George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, even Benjamin Franklin have been cited as examples of slave owners whose monuments and memorials worthy of removal just as the confederate leaders may or may not be worthy.

The difference is, and this is the salient point, the confederacy was formed to preserve state's rights. And, in particular, a state's right to permit its citizens to hold, beat, abuse, sell and buy human beings as labor without pay.

Confederate leaders raised their swords in open defiance in order to destroy the United States of America. Inarguably an so act of treason.

Many of these confederate monuments were erected during the darkest days of African American repression otherwise known as the era of Jim Crow. While proclaimed free, African Americans were not free to excerise their right to vote, own property or live in peace and security. African Americans lived every day with the threat of mob violence should they merely fail to step out of the way of a White person. If they had the temerity to whistle or cat call at a White woman. If they did not comply with senseless rules of segregation by sitting anywhere on a municipal bus or a lunch counter.

Monuments dedicated to the confederacy were built ostensively as a commemoration of southern heritage. But to the Black citizens of the south, they were built as warnings not to step out of line, to remember their proper place, to not become 'uppity'.

Does the Right understand that level of indignation? Does the Right respect all the rights extended to all the citizenry?

Whenever a group petitions to enjoy all the rights all Americans are to enjoy, which side on our political spectrum provides the resistance? Civil rights were opposed by the Right. Women's rights were opposed by the Right. Gay rights are opposed by the Right.

Anybody else see a pattern here?
Which side opposes and attacks proponents of things like white student unions?

Which side opposes fair divorce laws for men and fair compensation for the much more physical jobs that only men are expected to do?
Keeping your eye on the ball I see.
Once again, thanks to the Left, the will of the MINORITY is being imposed on the MAJORITY...

POLL: Most Black Americans Don’t Want Confederate Statues Removed

It's past time the MAJORITY told the easily-offended, Constitution/Law-violating MINORITY to STFU.
Wasn't it the will of the majority to keep Jim Crow laws in place? Was it the will of the majority to prevent homosexuals from taking advantage of the rights and protections of legal marriage?

It's called the 'Tyranny of the Majority' and it's not always a good thing.
 
It seems to me that the Right wears blinders where the meaning of the protests over confederate memorials is concerned. They seem to have a political agenda used as a template when they gauge the movement to remove confederate memorials.

The only ones with a political agenda (on this topic) are the ones that randomly decided to start tearing down historical monuments to conform to their ideology. It's an invasive and in-your-face tactic that that is meant to establish their territorial dominance and thereby increase their political power to further THEIR AGENDA. It's like a street gang coming in and declaring that they own certain street corners and blocks.

Having been in prison myself and witnessed and participated in drug and gang culture, I can tell you right now that that is the precise hidden agenda of the masterminds behind this political campaign to abolish and raze historical monuments.
 
It seems to me that the Right wears blinders where the meaning of the protests over confederate memorials is concerned. They seem to have a political agenda used as a template when they gauge the movement to remove confederate memorials.

Some want to argue that past presidents and statesmen who held slaves are just as culpable in the preservation of slavery and the dissolution of the Union as those in the confederacy.. George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, even Benjamin Franklin have been cited as examples of slave owners whose monuments and memorials worthy of removal just as the confederate leaders may or may not be worthy.

The difference is, and this is the salient point, the confederacy was formed to preserve state's rights. And, in particular, a state's right to permit its citizens to hold, beat, abuse, sell and buy human beings as labor without pay.

Confederate leaders raised their swords in open defiance in order to destroy the United States of America. Inarguably an so act of treason.

Many of these confederate monuments were erected during the darkest days of African American repression otherwise known as the era of Jim Crow. While proclaimed free, African Americans were not free to excerise their right to vote, own property or live in peace and security. African Americans lived every day with the threat of mob violence should they merely fail to step out of the way of a White person. If they had the temerity to whistle or cat call at a White woman. If they did not comply with senseless rules of segregation by sitting anywhere on a municipal bus or a lunch counter.

Monuments dedicated to the confederacy were built ostensively as a commemoration of southern heritage. But to the Black citizens of the south, they were built as warnings not to step out of line, to remember their proper place, to not become 'uppity'.

Does the Right understand that level of indignation? Does the Right respect all the rights extended to all the citizenry?

Whenever a group petitions to enjoy all the rights all Americans are to enjoy, which side on our political spectrum provides the resistance? Civil rights were opposed by the Right. Women's rights were opposed by the Right. Gay rights are opposed by the Right.

Anybody else see a pattern here?
Which side opposes and attacks proponents of things like white student unions?

Which side opposes fair divorce laws for men and fair compensation for the much more physical jobs that only men are expected to do?
Which side are nazis and white supremacists?
Which side shamelessly believes that white people are inherently morally inferior while embracing anti-whites of all stripes?
The premise of your question is dismissed.
 
Sure we do. I can tell you exactly what they are about.

2018
2020
2022
2024

You are welcome.

And btw, The KKK, ANTIFA, and BLM all work for THE DEMOCRAT PARTY.
So these little dance parties are completely staged.
This one just got a little out of hand....by design of course, with the complicit lack of action by local law enforcement.
 
It seems to me that the Right wears blinders where the meaning of the protests over confederate memorials is concerned. They seem to have a political agenda used as a template when they gauge the movement to remove confederate memorials.

Some want to argue that past presidents and statesmen who held slaves are just as culpable in the preservation of slavery and the dissolution of the Union as those in the confederacy.. George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, even Benjamin Franklin have been cited as examples of slave owners whose monuments and memorials worthy of removal just as the confederate leaders may or may not be worthy.

The difference is, and this is the salient point, the confederacy was formed to preserve state's rights. And, in particular, a state's right to permit its citizens to hold, beat, abuse, sell and buy human beings as labor without pay.

Confederate leaders raised their swords in open defiance in order to destroy the United States of America. Inarguably an so act of treason.

Many of these confederate monuments were erected during the darkest days of African American repression otherwise known as the era of Jim Crow. While proclaimed free, African Americans were not free to excerise their right to vote, own property or live in peace and security. African Americans lived every day with the threat of mob violence should they merely fail to step out of the way of a White person. If they had the temerity to whistle or cat call at a White woman. If they did not comply with senseless rules of segregation by sitting anywhere on a municipal bus or a lunch counter.

Monuments dedicated to the confederacy were built ostensively as a commemoration of southern heritage. But to the Black citizens of the south, they were built as warnings not to step out of line, to remember their proper place, to not become 'uppity'.

Does the Right understand that level of indignation? Does the Right respect all the rights extended to all the citizenry?

Whenever a group petitions to enjoy all the rights all Americans are to enjoy, which side on our political spectrum provides the resistance? Civil rights were opposed by the Right. Women's rights were opposed by the Right. Gay rights are opposed by the Right.

Anybody else see a pattern here?
Which side opposes and attacks proponents of things like white student unions?

Which side opposes fair divorce laws for men and fair compensation for the much more physical jobs that only men are expected to do?
Keeping your eye on the ball I see.
Once again, thanks to the Left, the will of the MINORITY is being imposed on the MAJORITY...

POLL: Most Black Americans Don’t Want Confederate Statues Removed

It's past time the MAJORITY told the easily-offended, Constitution/Law-violating MINORITY to STFU.
Wasn't it the will of the majority to keep Jim Crow laws in place? Was it the will of the majority to prevent homosexuals from taking advantage of the rights and protections of legal marriage?

It's called the 'Tyranny of the Majority' and it's not always a good thing.
Democrats would know about Jim Crow...

The Tyranny of the Majority' did not ram the ACA into law against the majority will of the people, did not use violence to silence freedom of speech at Berkley, did not beat and bloody political opposition supporters at Trump rallies, did not blow up a GOP HQ, did not threaten electoral college voters in an attempt to steal a democratic election, and did not just use violence to strip Americans of their right to assemble and of free speech in Charlottesville, my lil snowflake...
 
They also don't understand that its a right, guaranteed by our constitution and fought for by our military.

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It seems to me that the Right wears blinders where the meaning of the protests over confederate memorials is concerned. They seem to have a political agenda used as a template when they gauge the movement to remove confederate memorials.

Some want to argue that past presidents and statesmen who held slaves are just as culpable in the preservation of slavery and the dissolution of the Union as those in the confederacy.. George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, even Benjamin Franklin have been cited as examples of slave owners whose monuments and memorials worthy of removal just as the confederate leaders may or may not be worthy.

The difference is, and this is the salient point, the confederacy was formed to preserve state's rights. And, in particular, a state's right to permit its citizens to hold, beat, abuse, sell and buy human beings as labor without pay.

Confederate leaders raised their swords in open defiance in order to destroy the United States of America. Inarguably an so act of treason.

Many of these confederate monuments were erected during the darkest days of African American repression otherwise known as the era of Jim Crow. While proclaimed free, African Americans were not free to excerise their right to vote, own property or live in peace and security. African Americans lived every day with the threat of mob violence should they merely fail to step out of the way of a White person. If they had the temerity to whistle or cat call at a White woman. If they did not comply with senseless rules of segregation by sitting anywhere on a municipal bus or a lunch counter.

Monuments dedicated to the confederacy were built ostensively as a commemoration of southern heritage. But to the Black citizens of the south, they were built as warnings not to step out of line, to remember their proper place, to not become 'uppity'.

Does the Right understand that level of indignation? Does the Right respect all the rights extended to all the citizenry?

Whenever a group petitions to enjoy all the rights all Americans are to enjoy, which side on our political spectrum provides the resistance? Civil rights were opposed by the Right. Women's rights were opposed by the Right. Gay rights are opposed by the Right.

Anybody else see a pattern here?
Which side opposes and attacks proponents of things like white student unions?

Which side opposes fair divorce laws for men and fair compensation for the much more physical jobs that only men are expected to do?
Keeping your eye on the ball I see.
You can't tell white people, men and Christians to go jump off a bridge and expect to get credit for being progressive and humanitarian.

Clean your own house first, asshole.
 

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